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Pft I had a topic in the regime log 4 weeks ago. It works, but nobody will listen because they think it is gross.
If you can live with the pain of acne, being alone, scared to show your face in public, you can surely put some water with minerals in it on your face. And if you do not go no where ever and sit on the couch and watch tv by yourself, who is going to smell it, only you.
I was reading this thread (out of pure curiousity 
) and noticed Allantoin in that list. For anyone who's interested Allantion is a keratolylitic agent (thier like the FBI only more sneaky 
), i personally think its excellent but im not saying you should go wee wee though, you can buy it in cosmetics.
She doesn't say things like you: "It's sad that you guys are so desprate to find a cure that you resort to putting excriment on your faces....eeeewww........." Degrading people like that. You need to be supporting people for trying innovative ways of fighting acne and other conditions. Now some methods should not be encouraged, but methods like the urine therapy should.
i don't think labgirl necessarily meant to offend those out there that want to try the urine method. i think by "sad" she meant that it was sad that we (and by that, I mean all acne sufferers) have to go through things we wouldnt normally try, just to get rid of our acne.
anyway, those of you who are trying this...continue to keep us all updated...like a lot of others on here, I'm curious. I have some BP that I use (8%....and I can't remember the exact name of it)...that says "in a urea vehicle" on the front. I'm not sure what this means exactly...by "urea," does it mean waste products are in there? It seems to be pretty effective when I put it on new pimples...so i won't question the ingredients :ninja: haha
Cool. Glad its working for you. Im taking medications, doxycyline and tretinoin and my skin is clear. I would however, like to get off of these! So, your just using urine and not the acne medication M(whatever it was called)? And after you apply it at night, you just wash your face with water the next morning? After you do that, do you do anything else in the morning? Like wash your face with certain soap?
Ghandi drank a glass of his own piss every day. more than three million chinese drink their own urine every day
Those are some authorities - a politician and Chinese peasants /sarcasm
because the health benefits are so enormous and because urine has been known to cure nearly every disease.
Stop the press! ... what a retarded joke.
Stop flaming guys. If you want to flame, start another thread. These thread was created by Jackson so he can post his experiences with the urine therapy. Recently, he probably stopped posting on this thread because you guys keep on flaming.
If you have something negative to say, create another thread. Half the post on this thread is how ridiculous this is.
Anyways, Jackson do you have any updates with the therapy?
this reminds me of one of my aunt's stories.. she was i think travelling in some other country and was talking to this woman with beautiful skin, and my aunt asked her how she got her skin so nice, and the woman said in this crazy accent "i pee on my hand, and splash it on my face" or something like to that... i think it's cool that you're trying this. if i heard that it cured acne, i'd probably do it too. but until then, i think i'll stick to bp :]
And to clear up 'Labgirl'...
"Actually urine is a waste product. It's the product of out bodies' excratory systems...."
Yes. Yes it is. Just because the internal organs don't want it, it doesn't mean the external ones don't.
An example is fertilizer. I'm sure eating chicken shit won't help us. But it helps plants thanks to the nitrogen and phosphate. Each organ craves different nutrients.
"chemically there isn't much in urine would could cure acne.......the slight antimicorbial action and the excess of water soluble vitamins don't do much......the solutes in urine are just that solutes.....in water....."
Urine is just constituted of vitamins. And if you knew what solubility meant, you'd know it was a good thing. You mention that urine is mostly made of water. Well thanks to the excremental hypothesis of the quasi-superficial epidermal, it will filter the 'solutes'. If it were fat soluble, then it wouldn't go as far, like your somewhat-inefficient retinoid derivatives.
"Water soluble molecules have a hell of a time pasing through the epidermal lipid barrier......fat soluble molecues penetrate with greater ease......so exactly what does applying to to skin do????"
But that's the point. The barrier removes the covalent bond with water. A nice, clean filter.
"That's where the good stuff is......lipid soluble metabolites like the metabloites of vitamin A, like trans- retinoic acid, cis-9-retinoic acid, cis-11-retinoic acid, and cis-13-retinoic acid (Isotretionin) are found in feces.....not urine.......But who in their right mind would put feces on their face???...... "
The good stuff? Oral retinoids will yank your neurotransmitters 5-hydroxy-tryptamine, norepinephrine, dopamine, epinephrine, GABA, acetylcholine, and all the rest considerable amounts for the rest of your life. Providing you're at the threshold limit for it to work on you. Thyroid levels go down, which slows metabolism. Synapses shrink to pathetic sizes, hence the migraines. I won't bother going further.............
OMG!!!!! Frist of all the epidermis doesn't filter out solutes from solution.....they say in solution and the solution must pass through the epidermal lipid barrier, since water and water soluble molecules can't pass though the lipid barrier easily they need to pass through the corenocytes of the stratum corneum......which have thick cell envlopes that make penetration almost impossible.........Um and when I said "good stuff" I was referring to topical and oral retinoids.......retinoic acid blows allantoin out of the water in efficiency........
And this is what urine contains:
Alanine, total ..... 38 mg/day
Arginine, total ..... 32 mg/day
Ascorbic acid ..... 30 mg/day
Allantoin ..... 12 mg/day
Amino acids, total ..... 2.1 g/day
Bicarbonate ..... 140 mg/day
Biotin ..... 35 mg/day
Calcium ..... 23 mg/day
Creatinine ..... 1.4 mg/day
Cystine ..... 120 mg/day
Dopamine ..... 0.40 mg/day
Epinephrine ..... 0.01 mg/day
Folic acid ..... 4 mg/day
Glucose ..... 100 mg/day
Glutamic acid ..... 308 mg/day
Glycine ..... 455 mg/day
Inositol ..... 14 mg/day
Iodine ..... 0.25 mg/day
Iron ..... 0.5 mg/day
Lysine, total ..... 56 mg/day
Magnesium ..... 100 mg/day
Manganese ..... 0.5 mg/day
Methionine, total ..... 10 mg/day
Nitrogen, total ..... 15 g/day
Ornithine ..... 10 mg/day
Pantothenic acid ..... 3 mg/day
Phenylalanine ..... 21 mg/day
Phosphorus, organic ..... 9 mg/day
Potassium ..... 2.5 mg/day
Proteins, total ..... 5 mg/day
Riboflavin ..... 0.9 mg/day
Tryptophan, total ..... 28 mg/day
Tyrosine, total ..... 50 mg/day
Urea ..... 24.5 mg/day
Vitamin B6 ..... 100 mg/day
Vitamin B12 ..... 0.03 mg/day
Zinc ..... 1.4 mg/day
[in 1975, one of the founders of Miles Laboratories, Dr. A.H. Free, published his book Urinalysis in Clinical Laboratory Practice]
Have fun finding a medication with that amount of ingredients for the same price. :dance:
Could you do me a favor and tell me exactly what each of those substances does to the skin (nevermind the fact that most of them can't penetrate beyond the upper layers of the stratum corneum)....and exactly how each of those actully influences comedo formation and sebum production.........
And they seen to be in such a low concentration ....how in the world would they do anything?.........and I dount that that list is all that urine contains........it depends on if you smpke or drink alcohol.....injest caffine......and how much water you drink.....whatever medications you are on and you diet in general.......
I know what retinoids do....but I'm not sure about all that other stuff....(I have put allantoin on my skin.....it helps heal wounds).....Please explain.......
K thanks....
retinoic acid blows allantoin out of the water in efficiency........
Allantoin blows retinoic acid out of the water in, not making you look like a clown.
Post an abstract to a study comparing the two at the same use level and I'll be happy......The effects of topically applied retinoic acid are well documented, the effects of allantoin aren't (not to say it doen't do anything at all). I happen to have pure allantoin (in powder form) and I used to make a paste with water and use it as a spot treatment, and I'd use a solution of allantoin in water and glycerin as a toner. It never did anything besides make me a bit itchy....... Retinoic acid did clear up most of my comedoes (blackheads and whiteheads) and helped prevent the nasty inflammatory stuff.....I only stopped because it didn't eliiminate the placebo week breakout and the cysts just kept popping up.......I'm planning on getting Accutane real soon......,
Is there any bacteria in urine? I know it's filtration from the blood though. Also when you apply to your face does it stink too much?
Not in urine itself really unless you happen to have a bladder or kidney infection. But on it's way out it can pick up some bacteria, especially if you are female.........
http://www.rotten.com/library/medicine/bod...g/drinking-pee/
Regarding hygiene, let's return to the phrase "relatively sterile". While many sources will tell you urine is "sterile", end of story, this is not entirely accurate. Urine can actually pick a variety of bacteria as it exits the body through unwashed or infected genitalia. While this probably won't hurt you, it is rather icky, so the solution is to wash the area thoroughly and then collect the urine mid-stream. If you've ever had to give your doctor a urine sample, you've already practiced this technique. The moist towelette provided was to remove external bacteria, while the first flow of pee that you let go uncollected was to clean away anything lurking in the urethra itself or at it's opening. As long as the pee you are drinking is your own, this is probably as much as you need to concern yourself with. However, if the urine belongs to your sexual partner or another person, consider that there are certain viruses and bacteria that can be carried in and transmitted through the urine (such as Cytomegalovirus [CMV] or Hepatitis B Virus). In essence then, if you drink someone else's golden shower, you may be guzzling down a great deal more than you bargained for.
I just tried it right now after reading this and the other thread for UT. I guess it wasn't too bad. The smell gets you at first and you feel like gagging, but after a bit you can't notice it anymore. I did it in the shower, after washing my face and patting dry. I peed in my hands and just used it like water. Probly let it dry for 3 minutes then let the water wash it off. Im soo desparate, I'll try anything, so looks like this is going to be my new schedual for a few weeks. I'll keep ya'll updated.
Just what are these alleged nutrients? Certainly there are the vitamins and mineral alluded to above. But in some more esoteric versions of the theory, what is being released and recaptured is not so much a physical substance as it is an etheric substance -- life force (a.k.a. prana or chi). In fact, in both India and China there have historically been those individuals (including emperors and alleged magicians or sorcerers) who sought to obtain immortality through drinking their own urine. Urine has even be claimed to be the mysterious soma alluded to in the great Hindu spiritual texts known as the Vedas -- which, when drunk by the spiritual adept, would confer godlike levels of awareness and vitality. (Some modern supporters of this theory add the idea that the urine was spiked with a psychedelic, similar to the mushroom amanita muscaria.
I just wanted to add that this mushroom is used in initiation rites for certain central Californian Indians (American Indians obviously). The reason is that the drug is so strong it can easily kill someone who has not built up a tolerance to it, so the boys will drink the urine of the elders that ingested the mushroom directly to induce an altered state of consciousness.
I love how you cited rotten.com, Jess.
i only have mild acne and some acne scars. i will be testing urine therapy out but not on my face.
im not desperate but i am bored so im gona try drinking half a cup of urine a day for 3 weeks and see what the results are.this is also with the zenmed acnescare treatment i am currently usingalready 2 weeks into that and face is much smoother hardly any acne nice results for 2weeks scar reduction maybe 25%now. i will post every 2 days about the urine therapy research ^^.
ok i have started today drank half cup of urine. managed to gather guts got it down in 7 sec. it doesnt taste to bad compared to other stuff u might have drank. dont think of it as piss think of it as a very mild beer with a pinch of salt O.0.
