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The reason we are replying is because you know brings up a TON of good points. We always need someone to criticize the common belief for the sake of new ideas.
But I believe that acne is caused by diet. Here's why:
First, ask yourself this. What is the most effective treatment for acne on the market? The answer is obviously accutane. Accutane clears up about 95% of acne sufferers by the end of the cycle. Accutane is the only treatment available that is known to work and completely clear up skin. Now you're probably wondering: what the fuck does accutane have to do with the diet-acne link?
Accutane is very, very similar to vitamin A. Vitamin A was actually used in high doses to treat acne before accutane was developed. Vitamin A is also very, very effective at treating acne (read link at bottom of my post). I believe that acne is caused by a lack of vitamin A. Nowadays, our diet consists of such little vitamin A that it makes my point even clearer (a pun, hahha) as to why we are seeing increased rates of acne. The half-life of vitamin A is 6 months so if you are a salad daily your levels would steadily increase.
My post probably doesn't even make sense. I am doing a terrible job at backing up my point. But seriously, do some research on vitamin a and acne. I believe the cause of acne is lack of vitamin A. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/6453848/
No. Accutane is as a synthetically produced chemotherapeutic retinoid, it is not just high dose vitamin A. Neither does a diet rich in vitamin a cure acne.
Okay I'm not sure if you're serious. First, where are your sources? That's right you're just making things up.
Look at the chemical structure of vitamin A:
Now here's accutane's chemical structure:
Are you really trying to tell me that these chemicals aren't similar?
The reason we are replying is because you know brings up a TON of good points. We always need someone to criticize the common belief for the sake of new ideas.
But I believe that acne is caused by diet. Here's why:
First, ask yourself this. What is the most effective treatment for acne on the market? The answer is obviously accutane. Accutane clears up about 95% of acne sufferers by the end of the cycle. Accutane is the only treatment available that is known to work and completely clear up skin. Now you're probably wondering: what the fuck does accutane have to do with the diet-acne link?
Accutane is very, very similar to vitamin A. Vitamin A was actually used in high doses to treat acne before accutane was developed. Vitamin A is also very, very effective at treating acne (read link at bottom of my post). I believe that acne is caused by a lack of vitamin A. Nowadays, our diet consists of such little vitamin A that it makes my point even clearer (a pun, hahha) as to why we are seeing increased rates of acne. The half-life of vitamin A is 6 months so if you are a salad daily your levels would steadily increase.
My post probably doesn't even make sense. I am doing a terrible job at backing up my point. But seriously, do some research on vitamin a and acne. I believe the cause of acne is lack of vitamin A. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/6453848/
No. Accutane is as a synthetically produced chemotherapeutic retinoid, it is not just high dose vitamin A. Neither does a diet rich in vitamin a cure acne.
Okay I'm not sure if you're serious. First, where are your sources? That's right you're just making things up.
Look at the chemical structure of vitamin A:
Now here's accutane's chemical structure:
Are you really trying to tell me that these chemicals aren't similar?
Ok you know it doesn't take much difference to make a completely difference substance. One molecule can be the difference between harmless or even beneficial. Look at oxygen, carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide.
@alternatevista.
Correct one molecule can make a difference.
But the general rule of thumb in my pharmacy class is that we predict the actions of the drug based on the molecular structure. And it works pretty damn well most of, but not all, the time.
So here are the similarities between accutane and vitamin A:
1. Similar molecular structure.
2. Nearly identical efficacy in treating cystic acne. (At their respective doses.)
3. Both share many of the same side effects such as: birth defects, dry skin, depression.
Do I even need to go on? At this point you are just being ignorant if you aren't seeing similarity between accutane and vitamin A.
Furthermore, one must ask themselves. If taking a certain amount of an essential vitamin shows a statistically significant reduction in the illness, wouldn't the cause be referred to as a deficiency?
Edit: fixed some grammar mistakes
@alternatevista.
Correct one molecule can make a difference.
But the general rule of thumb in my pharmacy class is that we predict the actions of the drug based on the molecular structure. And it works pretty damn well most of, but not all, the time.
So here are the similarities between accutane and vitamin A:
1. Similar molecular structure.
2. Nearly identical efficacy in treating cystic acne. (At their respective doses.)
3. Both share many of the same side effects such as: birth defects, dry skin, depression.
Do I even need to go on? At this point you are just being ignorant if you aren't seeing similarity between accutane and vitamin A.
Furthermore, one must ask themselves. If taking a certain amount of an essential vitamin shows a statistically significant reduction in the illness, wouldn't the cause be referred to as a deficiency?
Edit: fixed some grammar mistakes
That vitamin and accutane are similar is fact and common knowledge. Not your discovery. And I've no idea why you feel the need to argue that point.
Hey man, diet is the cure of acne. Just eat 1 carrot, 1 apple and drink water and you are 100% clear for life, 100% guaranteed bro!
no, you got it all wrong, don't be foolish to think that!
the apple has way to much sugar so it's poison, carrots can also be sweet, and water is probably contaminated! this way you'll have acne even in ur coffin.
lol, indeed, people going crazy like this is the sole product of these primitive *diet fantasies*. unless one completes the theory all the way thru, they shouldn't present it like it's a solution.
I personally think you a very wrong and very uneducated. Although genetics obviously do have play in everything about you, I would never solely blame acne on genetics.
I myself suffered from very bad acne for years (neither of my parents did - ever)
I tired every acne medication there is. I started tracking my diet. I found out bananas were causing my acne. I cut them out and within a week my acne was going away, and no further breakouts were happening.
If I was to go to my kitchen and eat a banana right now, tomorrow morning I would wake up with a bad break out. I know this because I have tried to introduce bananas back into my diet because I love them.
@alternatevista.
Correct one molecule can make a difference.
But the general rule of thumb in my pharmacy class is that we predict the actions of the drug based on the molecular structure. And it works pretty damn well most of, but not all, the time.
So here are the similarities between accutane and vitamin A:
1. Similar molecular structure.
2. Nearly identical efficacy in treating cystic acne. (At their respective doses.)
3. Both share many of the same side effects such as: birth defects, dry skin, depression.
Do I even need to go on? At this point you are just being ignorant if you aren't seeing similarity between accutane and vitamin A.
Furthermore, one must ask themselves. If taking a certain amount of an essential vitamin shows a statistically significant reduction in the illness, wouldn't the cause be referred to as a deficiency?
Edit: fixed some grammar mistakes
That vitamin and accutane are similar is fact and common knowledge. Not your discovery. And I've no idea why you feel the need to argue that point.
You were the one who began arguing that they weren't. What on earth are you smoking?
This section of the forums is really good comedy, but that's just it, nothing else. You have one major flaw in your diet curing acne theory:
You think that every human being has perfect genetics and wrong diet just causes all the problems, acne etc. Listen, diet has no effect in your skin, it's all genetics, some people has just bad cards to play with, that's it. Don't blame food for your shitty genetics! Life is ruthless, deal with it.
How your genes express themselves is directly caused by your diet and lifestyle. You can't eat crap and expect to have flawless skin and perfect health. Our genes are not so horribly flawed. Please do some basic biologic research before posting such uninformed "info".
@alternatevista.
Correct one molecule can make a difference.
But the general rule of thumb in my pharmacy class is that we predict the actions of the drug based on the molecular structure. And it works pretty damn well most of, but not all, the time.
So here are the similarities between accutane and vitamin A:
1. Similar molecular structure.
2. Nearly identical efficacy in treating cystic acne. (At their respective doses.)
3. Both share many of the same side effects such as: birth defects, dry skin, depression.
Do I even need to go on? At this point you are just being ignorant if you aren't seeing similarity between accutane and vitamin A.
Furthermore, one must ask themselves. If taking a certain amount of an essential vitamin shows a statistically significant reduction in the illness, wouldn't the cause be referred to as a deficiency?
Edit: fixed some grammar mistakes
That vitamin and accutane are similar is fact and common knowledge. Not your discovery. And I've no idea why you feel the need to argue that point.
You were the one who began arguing that they weren't. What on earth are you smoking?
Those similarites only hold true for synthetic vitamin A, not the kind found naturally, such as in liver.
@alternatevista.
Correct one molecule can make a difference.
But the general rule of thumb in my pharmacy class is that we predict the actions of the drug based on the molecular structure. And it works pretty damn well most of, but not all, the time.
So here are the similarities between accutane and vitamin A:
1. Similar molecular structure.
2. Nearly identical efficacy in treating cystic acne. (At their respective doses.)
3. Both share many of the same side effects such as: birth defects, dry skin, depression.
Do I even need to go on? At this point you are just being ignorant if you aren't seeing similarity between accutane and vitamin A.
Furthermore, one must ask themselves. If taking a certain amount of an essential vitamin shows a statistically significant reduction in the illness, wouldn't the cause be referred to as a deficiency?
Edit: fixed some grammar mistakes
That vitamin and accutane are similar is fact and common knowledge. Not your discovery. And I've no idea why you feel the need to argue that point.
You were the one who began arguing that they weren't. What on earth are you smoking?
What are you smoking? I did no arguing whatsoever. And no one argued that they weren't similar.
This section of the forums is really good comedy, but that's just it, nothing else. You have one major flaw in your diet curing acne theory:
You think that every human being has perfect genetics and wrong diet just causes all the problems, acne etc. Listen, diet has no effect in your skin, it's all genetics, some people has just bad cards to play with, that's it. Don't blame food for your shitty genetics! Life is ruthless, deal with it.
In one way you have a point. In others you don't.
I follow science, not opinions. If you have something to say then be prepared to prove it with crediable studies on the said subject.
This section of the forums is really good comedy, but that's just it, nothing else. You have one major flaw in your diet curing acne theory:
You think that every human being has perfect genetics and wrong diet just causes all the problems, acne etc. Listen, diet has no effect in your skin, it's all genetics, some people has just bad cards to play with, that's it. Don't blame food for your shitty genetics! Life is ruthless, deal with it.
In one way you have a point. In others you don't.
I follow science, not opinions. If you have something to say then be prepared to prove it with crediable studies on the said subject.
What point? I don't see a valid thing in that post.