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Again, I apologize for the double post but I simply think that we have created an imbalance in our bodies. It's common knowledge that taking or megadosing on one particular B vitamin creates an imbalance in your body in the form of a deficit. One of the symptoms of a B Vitamin deficiency is hair loss. Specifically speaking, biotin is the the vitamin responsible for this. Other symptoms also include dry mucus pads (ex cement like mucus/super dry mucus in your nose), a symptom that I also express. I'd love to hear the groups thoughts/consensus on my hypothesis
Again, I apologize for the double post but I simply think that we have created an imbalance in our bodies. It's common knowledge that taking or megadosing on one particular B vitamin creates an imbalance in your body in the form of a deficit. One of the symptoms of a B Vitamin deficiency is hair loss. Specifically speaking, biotin is the the vitamin responsible for this. Other symptoms also include dry mucus pads (ex cement like mucus/super dry mucus in your nose), a symptom that I also express. I'd love to hear the groups thoughts/consensus on my hypothesis
People have tried both for several months and it didn't cure their hair loss. I believe pjjordan did for 8 months and it didn't help.
Guys, I found this.
http://www.baar.com/radiactestimonials.htm
The chemotherapy which I received raises havoc on my system - after one use of treatment from the Radiac (with [Vibradex] Gold solution) many of these problems disappeared. I was losing my hair, now its growing back at a fast rate. I had nausea and cramping in my stomach after every chemo treatment. I no longer have any of these problems. It also helped my blood count which after every chemo treatment I need a blood transfusion. I no longer need any now. The list could go on. I had a 30% chance - I feel the Radiac gave me a 100% chance." S.M., NY
I have been using the Radiac for a few months. I use it with [Vibradex] Gold or [Vibradex] Silver solutions and sometimes plain. My body feels very relaxed and a feeling of warmth in my hands & feet at times. I've also felt a floating sensation of my body. The surprising thing that I found is that my hair was getting a bit thicker, curlier and less grey. The Radiac certainly works its magic." T.N. Marlton, NJ
I am going to try the radial active with the gold. It is very expensive so I wll let you know how it goes after a few months. I also found these testimonials regarding hair regrowth related to the crude oil and atomidine. All these treatments require at least 6 months of continue use.
http://immortalhair.forumandco.com/t5874-edgar-cayce-crude-oil
We all say were shedding hair, but I didn't know until lately that its only considered hairloss if you're loosing more than 100 hairs a day (which I know I'm not). I've begun to think that the increased loss is natural because its not coming out and clumps and is only some hair in the shower
We all say were shedding hair, but I didn't know until lately that its only considered hairloss if you're loosing more than 100 hairs a day (which I know I'm not). I've begun to think that the increased loss is natural because its not coming out and clumps and is only some hair in the shower
You lose a lot more hair than you think. Think about it, how much hair do you lose in the shower? You're up about 16 hours a day, there's no way you could possibly count how much hair you're shedding throughout the day...if you're finding hair very frequently everytime your run your hand through your hair, then its a problem in my opinion..
I am going to ask to be prescribed to Avodart. There are a few people on this thread that said avodart eliminated their hair shedding:
http://absoluteacneinfo.yuku.com/topic/445/B5-and-Hairloss-Biotin-Update?page=4#.UZ_Fy7XVB8E
http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=11145
I would watch this thread. Two people are already reporting tons of vellous hairs. If those go terminal in a few months that is a cure for hair loss, hopefully including ours.
To clarify, no on got tested, but Blue. And Blue, you didn't test your cortisol levels because you said they are fine on cycle, is that correct? I am going to a dermatologist this Thursday, no tests scheduled, but will see what he says. Also for those in touch with the guy who previously ran the b5hairloss website, he never found a cure? Reading his old posts, seems he leaned toward adrenal fatigue
current regime:
atomidine 1 drop, 7 days on, 7 days off
crude oil twice a week with a 30 min massage+crude oil pine rinse, then vaseline
radial active appliance (4 days with gold, 4 days w/o gold, 4 days off)
3 bottle of careprost (generic latisse) in a bottle of nioxin scalp treatment every night
1gm l-cysteine
Considering rogaine foam
To clarify, no on got tested, but Blue. And Blue, you didn't test your cortisol levels because you said they are fine on cycle, is that correct? I am going to a dermatologist this Thursday, no tests scheduled, but will see what he says. Also for those in touch with the guy who previously ran the b5hairloss website, he never found a cure? Reading his old posts, seems he leaned toward adrenal fatigue
current regime:
atomidine 1 drop, 7 days on, 7 days off
crude oil twice a week with a 30 min massage+crude oil pine rinse, then vaseline
radial active appliance (4 days with gold, 4 days w/o gold, 4 days off)
3 bottle of careprost (generic latisse) in a bottle of nioxin scalp treatment every night
Yes mate that's right. Use cortisol blockers on cycle but I wouldn't rule anything out at this stage. Wow your on a lot of things man are you still shedding on all that, a few guys on the steroid forums use nizoral and toco for hairloss check them out.
1gm l-cysteine
Considering rogaine foam
To clarify, no on got tested, but Blue. And Blue, you didn't test your cortisol levels because you said they are fine on cycle, is that correct? I am going to a dermatologist this Thursday, no tests scheduled, but will see what he says. Also for those in touch with the guy who previously ran the b5hairloss website, he never found a cure? Reading his old posts, seems he leaned toward adrenal fatigue
current regime:
atomidine 1 drop, 7 days on, 7 days off
crude oil twice a week with a 30 min massage+crude oil pine rinse, then vaseline
radial active appliance (4 days with gold, 4 days w/o gold, 4 days off)
3 bottle of careprost (generic latisse) in a bottle of nioxin scalp treatment every night
1gm l-cysteine
Considering rogaine foam
Correct, he never found it but thought he was close. I think he was leaning towards adrenal fatigue as well. But no one got cortisol saliva test, so we don't know as of yet if the theory holds.
I can refer you to his email if you want to talk to him, he's very informed on this specific problem after years of research, and you seem to be a smart and determined individual as well, so maybe talking it through you guys would be able to figure it out? For me, he told me to get those tests, but I'm nowhere close to my doctor to do that without spending hundreds....
To clarify, no on got tested, but Blue. And Blue, you didn't test your cortisol levels because you said they are fine on cycle, is that correct? I am going to a dermatologist this Thursday, no tests scheduled, but will see what he says. Also for those in touch with the guy who previously ran the b5hairloss website, he never found a cure? Reading his old posts, seems he leaned toward adrenal fatigue
current regime:
atomidine 1 drop, 7 days on, 7 days off
crude oil twice a week with a 30 min massage+crude oil pine rinse, then vaseline
radial active appliance (4 days with gold, 4 days w/o gold, 4 days off)
3 bottle of careprost (generic latisse) in a bottle of nioxin scalp treatment every night
1gm l-cysteine
Considering rogaine foam
Correct, he never found it but thought he was close. I think he was leaning towards adrenal fatigue as well. But no one got cortisol saliva test, so we don't know as of yet if the theory holds.
I can refer you to his email if you want to talk to him, he's very informed on this specific problem after years of research, and you seem to be a smart and determined individual as well, so maybe talking it through you guys would be able to figure it out? For me, he told me to get those tests, but I'm nowhere close to my doctor to do that without spending hundreds....
Yes, let me get his email. I am booking an appt with an endocrinologist and I want to know what tests to get. I am doing cortisol, thyroid, blood and b vitamins if that is possible.
Yes Blue, still shedding. I am going to add a keto shampoo, that is what nizoral is. I posted on another thread about CB, it's for both acne and hairloss. Stage 2 trials completed already in Europe.
Hey all,
i found this. I did the iris contraction test and my pupil immediately re dilated, so strong indicator of adrenal fatigue. I went and got the ebook by dr wilson, going to read it tonight. Maybe you guys should do some of these tests and see what your results are.- http://forum.lowcarber.org/showthread.php?t=117152
In Dr. Wilson's book, Adrenal Fatigue , he lists 3 tests you can do at home to help determine if you have Adrenal Fatigue (or Burned Out Adrenals, as Dr. S calls it). This might be helpful for those who can't afford a Cortisol test.
Test #1: Iris Contraction Test
Equipment required: chair, small flashlight, mirror, a watch (with a second hand), and a dark room.
In a darkened room, sit in a chair in front of a mirror. Holding the flashlight at the side of your head, shine it across one eye (not into the eye). Watch what happens in the mirror.
You should see your pupil contract immediately after the light hits the eye. The pupil will normally stay contracted, but if you have adrenal fatigue, the pupil won't be able to hold its contraction and will dilate. This dilation will take place within 2 minutes and last for about 30-45 seconds before it contracts again. Time how long the dilation lasts and record it along with the date. Retest monthly as it serves as an indicator of recovery.
Test #2: Blood Pressure Test
If your blood pressure drops when you stand up from a lying position, this almost always indicates low adrenals. This can be measured with a blood pressure gauge (a sphygmomanometer), which you can buy at a drug store. Make sure to purchase the type that doesn't require a stethoscope to take your blood pressure.
Make sure to do this test when you are well hydrated or it could give you a false positive. Lie down quietly for about 10 minutes, then take your blood pressure (while still lying down). Then stand up and measure your blood pressure immediately upon standing. Normally blood pressure will rise 10-20mmHg from standing up. If your blood pressure drops, you likely have adrenal fatigue. The more severe the drop, the more severe the adrenal fatigue.
Test #3: Sergent's White Line
This is only present in about 40% of people with Adrenal Fatigue, but if the test is positive, it's a "slam dunk" confirmation.
With a ballpoint pen, take the cap end of the pen and lightly stroke the skin on your abdomen, making a mark about 6" long. Within a few seconds, a line should appear. In a normal reaction, the mark is initially white, but reddens within a few seconds. If you have Adrenal Fatigue, the line will stay white for about 2 minutes and will also widen.
Hey can I try this? It's a product called 'Totally Natural Hair More' it has the cysteine that you mentioned. Check below these are the ingredients it has. Copied it from their website.
ACTIVE INGREDIENTS: Each Capsule of Hair More Advanced Hair Formula contains:
Serenoa repens (Saw Palmetto) seed......................................2g (2000mg) Equiv. to Fatty Acids 120mg
Trigonella foenum graecum (Testofen Fenugreek) seed............1.2g (1200mg)
Cysteine Hydrochloride...............................................................579.8mg Equiv. to Cysteine 400mg
Biotin...........................................................................................1mg
Each 1mL of Hair More Advanced Stimulating Lotion contains:
Vitis vinifera seed (Grape Seed).........................................1.263g (1263mg) Equiv. to Procyanidins 10mg
Serenoa repens (Saw Palmetto) seed.................................................10mg Equiv. to Fatty Acids 599mcg
Dimethyl Sulfone............................................................................20mg
Cysteine Hydrochloride....................................................................13mg Equiv. to Cysteine 10mg
Biotin...........................................................................................7mcg
Hey can I try this? It's a product called 'Totally Natural Hair More' it has the cysteine that you mentioned. Check below these are the ingredients it has. Copied it from their website.
ACTIVE INGREDIENTS: Each Capsule of Hair More Advanced Hair Formula contains:
Serenoa repens (Saw Palmetto) seed......................................2g (2000mg) Equiv. to Fatty Acids 120mg
Trigonella foenum graecum (Testofen Fenugreek) seed............1.2g (1200mg)
Cysteine Hydrochloride...............................................................579.8mg Equiv. to Cysteine 400mg
Biotin...........................................................................................1mg
Each 1mL of Hair More Advanced Stimulating Lotion contains:
Vitis vinifera seed (Grape Seed).........................................1.263g (1263mg) Equiv. to Procyanidins 10mg
Serenoa repens (Saw Palmetto) seed.................................................10mg Equiv. to Fatty
Dimethyl Sulfone............................................................................20mg
Cysteine Hydrochloride....................................................................13mg Equiv. to Cysteine 10mg
Biotin...........................................................................................7mcg
Cysteine will not cure b5 hairloss
On 6/2/2013 at 11:13 AM, phillyeagles91 said:itsoveryes,
Do you have any idea how people treat adrenal fatigue?
Look term supplementation or bovine adrenal extracts
"Their first claim to fame in the United States occurred with the epidemic
flu virus of 1918. Respiratory infections are especially hard on the adrenal
glands and fatigue them rapidly. This effect was shown by Lucke and his
associates at Camp Zachary Taylor in 1919, when he found that adrenal
exhaustion was present in 103 of 126 autopsied cases of mortality from
the flu epidemic. In 3 other cases he even found adrenal hemorrhages
and enlargement of the adrenal glands to twice their size. This means
that in 106 of 126 patients who died from influenza, the adrenals were
actually damaged by the infection. It is not that the adrenals were infected
per se, but that the effort they made to try to restore balance to the body
led them to a degree of exhaustion that was physically detectable upon
autopsy (Lucke, B., et al., Archives of Internal Medicine, August 1919,
XXIIII, pg. 154).
While this flu epidemic was debilitating and even killing thousands around
the world, a few hundred of its victims were given a formula containing
liquid adrenal cortical extracts (extracts from the adrenal cortex) combined
with small amounts of thyroid and gonadal extracts. The formula
was found to be unusually effective in overcoming many of the asthenic
(weak) and depleted states that were so common to those afflicted with
this deadly flu. It also effectively reduced the serious sequeli that usually
followed this particular infection. The benefits of this adrenal cell extract
formula dramatically drew attention to its practical use. The quick and
uneventful recovery experienced by those taking it contrasted to the long
period of recuperation normally seen in this flu epidemic. These results
made many physicians aware of the possibility for recovery from less
severe forms of hypoadrenia as well. It was known even in 1919 that
the early functional endocrine disorders, especially adrenal fatigue, are
infinitely more common and far more likely to respond to therapy than
extreme endocrine diseases such as Addisons (Harrower, 39, pg. 17)."
supplements
vit c
vit e
b5
b complex
niacin
gigseng root
cordycep sinesis (cordymax)
licorice root (tea preferred)
gingko leaf (ginkgo biloba)
sleep
NO CAFFEINE!
you can buy the book on amazon for $10 kindle
EDIT: Bovine (cow) is no longer used due to mad cow disease, rather porcine (pig) extracts are used. Here is one such product, but honestly I suggest most people drop cable and use that money to get tested. My endo appt is next week, will update then.
http://www.amazon.com/Health-Wilsons-Formulations-856538001046/dp/B004I7C11W
The dermatologist wouldn't conduct tests. He just passed it off as MPB but I did request I be prescribed to Avodart. I am now on Avodart and Rogain Foam for 1 week now.
That sucks, it's terrible when people in the medical profession will not listen to the patient. Many think they always know best and won't stray from anything taught in medical school.
My doctor actually ran tests but just blood tests, and everything was fine of course.
I'm actually having what looks like quite decent re-growth at the moment but I don't want to say details until I can be sure. This thread is already filled with too many phantom "cures".
The dermatologist wouldn't conduct tests. He just passed it off as MPB but I did request I be prescribed to Avodart. I am now on Avodart and Rogain Foam for 1 week now.
Have you had any side effects on the adovart yet I heard there really bad man, how's you libido on it I no there's a fair few people out the that completely lost there sex drive.
The dermatologist wouldn't conduct tests. He just passed it off as MPB but I did request I be prescribed to Avodart. I am now on Avodart and Rogain Foam for 1 week now.
That sucks, it's terrible when people in the medical profession will not listen to the patient. Many think they always know best and won't stray from anything taught in medical school.
My doctor actually ran tests but just blood tests, and everything was fine of course.
I'm actually having what looks like quite decent re-growth at the moment but I don't want to say details until I can be sure. This thread is already filled with too many phantom "cures".
Congrats on the regrowth, what are you taking?
Travelleruk, you posted this on May 1st. "You are right though, we can't keep with this guesswork. I haven't been taking any pills for weeks now."
So it's been 2 months since you are off B5 and your hair is starting to regrow? What are you taking?, because I found this story and his hair hadn't grown back 8 years later, hasn't gone completely bald either though.
http://en.allexperts.com/q/Hair-Loss-1012/2012/10/b5-hair-loss.htm
Yes it seems to be re-growing but I've thought this before which is why I am cautious of giving people false hope.
I still seem to be losing quite a lot of hairs but there is also quite a lot of stubble around my hairline and dark follicle marks appearing.
If I am having success then it may just be that quitting B5 is my cure, I don't want to recommend what I have been taking yet because it can have side effects and may not even be helping.