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5 minutes ago, VITAMINB5FUCKEDME said:Does it mean i have to COMPLETELY eliminate b5 even from whole foods
idk if you've ever come across studies regarding B5 but,, deficiency in B5 can be fatal. just look up what happens to your body when there's not enough B5 in your diet. B5 exists for a reason... you need it... all earthy beings need it...
Just now, chiefdez said:idk if you've ever come across studies regarding B5 but,, deficiency in B5 can be fatal. just look up what happens to your body when there's not enough B5 in your diet. B5 exists for a reason... you need it... all earthy beings need it...
im still leaning more to thyroid and candida issues. My stools have looked different since this b5 mess and also my nails are brittle. My eyelashes are thinning also. My temples are growing back doh front is still pretty thin and shitty
12 minutes ago, VITAMINB5FUCKEDME said:im still leaning more to thyroid and candida issues. My stools have looked different since this b5 mess and also my nails are brittle. My eyelashes are thinning also. My temples are growing back doh front is still pretty thin and shitty
why learn to thyroid issues when you can have blood work done? the issue is possibly something completely different from what you think. stools can look different everyday based on your diet, and once you stop B5 they go back to normal if anything. you could have a gut problem that ofc has nothing to do with B5 as B5 does not cause candida overgrowth.brittle nails indicate nutrient deficiency (or genetics).same with your eyelashes and possibly your hair issues when it comes to deficiency of some sort. you could have an absorption issue or sensitivity to some foods that could cause absorption / gut problems. we are all different.i feel like you're overthinking some stuff here.
19 minutes ago, chiefdez said:why learn to thyroid issues when you can have blood work done? the issue is possibly something completely different from what you think. stools can look different everyday based on your diet, and once you stop B5 they go back to normal if anything. you could have a gut problem that ofc has nothing to do with B5 as B5 does not cause candida overgrowth.brittle nails indicate nutrient deficiency (or genetics).same with your eyelashes and possibly your hair issues when it comes to deficiency of some sort. you could have an absorption issue or sensitivity to some foods that could cause absorption / gut problems. we are all different.i feel like you're overthinking some stuff here.
ion know read the earliest pages of the threads. i forgot his username but most people cured their b5 by taking thyroid supplements or smth but the odd thing is that some people never recover from b5 overdose even after years and they were taking in large doses prolly 5-6g while some took it for the same amount of timeframe as them kinda same dosage but recovered within like a year fully. When i asked him what he did he just told me that he ate healthier.
7 hours ago, VITAMINB5FUCKEDME said:ion know read the earliest pages of the threads. i forgot his username but most people cured their b5 by taking thyroid supplements or smth but the odd thing is that some people never recover from b5 overdose even after years and they were taking in large doses prolly 5-6g while some took it for the same amount of timeframe as them kinda same dosage but recovered within like a year fully. When i asked him what he did he just told me that he ate healthier.
i've read the old threads. i've only found like 2 ppl who allegedly "never" recovered... out of a million who take B5 with no issues. everyone else on the internet says they fine after a while and most ppl don't even have to recover.
for all u know these 2 ppl prolly have another issue and not "B5 overdose". don't buy the crap that's spoken on the internet 99% of ppl don't know shit and scare others for no reason... that guy had developed B deficiencies from the B5, that's why he fixed it with proper eating afterwards, no biggie.
even i am taking only one pill of B5and i developed mouth sores, dry mouth and nose and sore throat every coupledays after a month.butoncei started a B-complex it all stopped... it ain't quantum physics.
4 hours ago, chiefdez said:i've read the old threads. i've only found like 2 ppl who allegedly "never" recovered... out of a million who take B5 with no issues. everyone else on the internet says they fine after a while and most ppl don't even have to recover.
for all u know these 2 ppl prolly have another issue and not "B5 overdose". don't buy the crap that's spoken on the internet 99% of ppl don't know shit and scare others for no reason... that guy had developed B deficiencies from the B5, that's why he fixed it with proper eating afterwards, no biggie.
even i am taking only one pill of B5and i developed mouth sores, dry mouth and nose and sore throat every coupledays after a month.butoncei started a B-complex it all stopped... it ain't quantum physics.
Now u talked about it i think the user phillyeaglessaid that a long term b complex fixed his issues and he said maybe it was the added stress also back then which fucked everything up. So the b complex theory might actually be true but for now i don' t think i would want to go back to supplements ion know. I have like this supplement from blackmores which basically contains all the nutrients and minerals ur body needs including the vitamins.
It also seems that the majority of people who went for a hormone test didn't even managed to find anything wrong with their thyroid and hormones. So u might be right m8 but no idea if i would want to go down the supplement route again
There is not one person who cured there b5 hair loss on this whole forum.
the hairloss from b5 isnt gradule when you have been taking high doses after about five months your hair falls out in hand fulls not just from the top of the head like male pattern baldness but your hair falls out in handfuls from the entire scalp and it happens rapidly,
i dont know what causes it and how to rectify it but I can tell you what Ive tried over the last 8 years and dosent work.
not hormone related I had a thyroid test and parathyroid test got referred to an endocrinologist who tested cortisol.short thatchment test .testosterone.adrenal gland function.
he found nothing wrong everything was in the normal range.
paid privately through medichecks for a full b vitamin panel test all the b vitamins tested separately.they all come back fine in the reference range.
i dont get stressed I run my own business and stress isnt something that I get .if anything it gets me down not depressed but down.
it isnt normal hair loss hair falls out in hand fulls over a period of about 12 months you will loose 50 % of your hair density not go completely bald but you loose a lot of structure.
one normal hair follicle should produce between three and four hairs.
one of my hair follicles only produces one hair and thats the entire scalp .
i dont know what the cure is or how to fix it but it isnt regular hair loss when I find the cure thats if I ever do I will share it on here to help everyone else but dont waste time taking b vitamins including biotin or trying to alter your hormones with supplements because it dosent improve the hair
On 5/2/2020 at 4:02 PM, chiefdez said:there are several ppl on this forum who fixed the hair loss and reports of others around the web stating the same. go back and read. what doesnt work for you may work for someone else. if you were losing handfuls and rapidly, your head would be pretty much exposed rn m8. also losing handfuls is def abnormal, and if smth is abnormal, blood work will show it. deficiencies in other nutrients such as zinc and iron cause hair loss too. the fact that you're on a hair loss forum shows you're quite worried actually, but insist on not dealing with stress, sure. wishes for the best.
Brendan is right, there has been no cure found.
i have had this for probably 10 years now (Im 32)It used to stress me out but now it doesnt anymore (more important things then hair). I come back here every few months to check the thread but never see anything useful.
Everything has been tried, B complex Nac Zinc Blood tests.. nothing has ever showed up deficient or over...
btw your hair doesnt get worse.. for me I lost like 30% of my hair and it has always stayed like this. Im very healthy person also, dont drink or smoke. The only other thing I notice is I have dry lips. I think the B5 has closed or dried out some of the pores (Kinda like Accutane does) and they have stayed closed so in turn my hair is dryer and lips are too.. but nothing else has changed Im still perfectly Healthy.
this is my first post btw.. just dont want to see fake news on here.
10 hours ago, Darcy202 said:Brendan is right, there has been no cure found.
i have had this for probably 10 years now (Im 32)It used to stress me out but now it doesnt anymore (more important things then hair). I come back here every few months to check the thread but never see anything useful.
Everything has been tried, B complex Nac Zinc Blood tests.. nothing has ever showed up deficient or over...
btw your hair doesnt get worse.. for me I lost like 30% of my hair and it has always stayed like this. Im very healthy person also, dont drink or smoke. The only other thing I notice is I have dry lips. I think the B5 has closed or dried out some of the pores (Kinda like Accutane does) and they have stayed closed so in turn my hair is dryer and lips are too.. but nothing else has changed Im still perfectly Healthy.
this is my first post btw.. just dont want to see fake news on here.
Yep, I think most on here didn't find a cure, I'm one of those too. Also 32 years old and check in here every now and then but mostly gave up.
I started losing my hair 10 years ago, hairline receded 1-2 inches and hasn't seemed to have gotten any worse for me also.
For that reason I'm tempted to get a little hair transplant, my donor hair will be very thick so I think it could work well.
When you take b5 your hair falls out you will loose 30-50% of your hair density when you stop the b5 your hair will remain lifeless and strawlike the 50% that you lost due to the shedding effect of vitamin b5 will not return.10 years later you will still only have 50% of your hair that you had before b5 .
im not sure if it changes dna or the actual hair follicle or the sebum glands.
its obviously something you havent been through your self so you should stop trying to bench people on there situation and tell them there stupid.
i have been like this for 10 plus years dont you think I would have tried an iron and zink blood test during the 10years.
there is also people with accutane hair loss who have never gained the hair they lost back.
if you think I am talking shit take 10 grams of b5 for 4 months and then tell me its stupid
On 5/6/2020 at 4:55 PM, brendan452 said:When you take b5 your hair falls out you will loose 30-50% of your hair density when you stop the b5 your hair will remain lifeless and strawlike the 50% that you lost due to the shedding effect of vitamin b5 will not return.10 years later you will still only have 50% of your hair that you had before b5 .
im not sure if it changes dna or the actual hair follicle or the sebum glands.
its obviously something you havent been through your self so you should stop trying to bench people on there situation and tell them there stupid.
i have been like this for 10 plus years dont you think I would have tried an iron and zink blood test during the 10years.
there is also people with accutane hair loss who have never gained the hair they lost back.
if you think I am talking shit take 10 grams of b5 for 4 months and then tell me its stupid
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49 minutes ago, chiefdez said:ignoring the fact that there are ppl taking grams upon grams of B5 for months to years and nothing happensto their hair yet asking me to do it out of complete convincement it is gonna happen to me (which i highly doubt)lmao.u think B5 has this effect when just a few ppl report *potentially* (not proven) linked hair loss out of millions who take it without issues? u ever done an appropriate study on the pharmacokinetics ofB5 on anexperimental group to tell me ur little nonsense theories are sound? meanwhile B5 has been in various experimental studies -not only related to acne- and zero of them report side effects such as hair loss...
if B5 overdose had this side effect we would know it, like how we know ab the side effects of every other thing before releasing it to the public. guess what we do know? B2 and B7 deficiency is linked to hair loss whereas ignestion of some of the B vitaminsin excess has hair improving properties. that's what science says, not sum random dude on the internet. one of the guys in this forum (first pages) USED B5 for his hair loss.
makingbold nonsense statements on a matter like this without scientific proof for anything u claim will certainlymake u look stupid, it's not that im calling u one."juS bC tHiS hApPeNeD tO mE iT iS tRuE sCrEw ScIeNcE!1!1".i wonder what kinda person would ever think a vitamin changes ur DNA. jesus fckin christ. ever been in school? get some. i know that some ppl develop hair problems bc of accutane, but most ppl's resolve. the difference is we do know that 13-cis-retinoic acid maycause hair loss, whereasstudies on B5 do not give us any clue that B5 might...
so currently we do not have scientific findingsof B5 causinghair loss and disruption ofhair growth. but u know what can disrupt ur hair growth? genetic predisposition to mpb, other hormonal problems, autoimmune disease, and stress. i have found ppl on the web who said their hair did grow back after B5 and one girl who linked her hair loss to B5 came back months later to say her her hair loss was actually caused by her excessive estrogen production and that once she fixed her hormonal issuethe hair loss stopped. this is whyi cant trust ppl on the internet.this whole thread is ab hair loss that supposedly doesn't resolve. and yet both of u admitted that ur hair loss stopped. all the rest seems like exaggeration. as if you count how many hairs there are on ur head for u to notice hair growth.
i was on 500mg for 3 months and i had to stop it bc it gave me mouth ulcers and sore throat. my hair has been mildly sheddingon and off due to stress for months and started before B5 (and grows normally, even think B5 made it grow way faster while i was on it)so i can't provide a testimony other than it surely depletes other B vitamins for it to cause any problems.
"10 years later you will still only have 50% of your hair that you had before b5". u may wanna reread this sentence of yours.
a medical professional can examine ur problemand tell u if theres anything wrong w ur hair follicles. scaring tf out of ppl for no reason is not cool.
Listen I took B5 for 9 months straight @10G.. my skin was perfect and I was happy. I then decided to stop taking B5 (cause my skin was great) after a few months my skin got worse so I went back on B5. Nothing happened this time and after a few months my hair started to shed. That was 10 years ago.
my hair continues to shed but obviously less now cause there is not as much.
There is no bro science here, and your making it sound like were just inventing stuff when we all have the same stories. The only person I seen recover was a girl so yeah maybe we had an underlying MPB gene and this somehow it accelerated it.
You can believe your whole B5 depleted other vitaminstheory but that is bullshit. Me and others have had this for 10 years surely they would have corrected by now. I also took b complex and done nothing.
You sound like a young person and I know your probably angry after reading the thread cause there is no answers but believe me its not the end of the world.
29 minutes ago, Darcy202 said:Listen I took B5 for 9 months straight @10G.. my skin was perfect and I was happy. I then decided to stop taking B5 (cause my skin was great) after a few months my skin got worse so I went back on B5. Nothing happened this time and after a few months my hair started to shed. That was 10 years ago.
my hair continues to shed but obviously less now cause there is not as much.
There is no bro science here, and your making it sound like were just inventing stuff when we all have the same stories. The only person I seen recover was a girl so yeah maybe we had an underlying MPB gene and this somehow it accelerated it.
You can believe your whole B5 depleted other vitaminstheory but that is bullshit. Me and others have had this for 10 years surely they would have corrected by now. I also took b complex and done nothing.
You sound like a young person and I know your probably angry after reading the thread cause there is no answers but believe me its not the end of the world.
u shuld try running some blood tests and also check for any autoimmune diseases. Also if ur feeling other side effects then hair loss like eyebrow thinning, fatigue, cold feet and hands, stool changes. U shuld prolly talk to ur GP about thatand also just try to lead a healthy diet. Don't smoke, drink. Go gluten free, no sugar, eat more foods high in antioxidants. Basically any fruit and vegetables and exercise.
On 5/7/2020 at 2:37 AM, Darcy202 said:Listen I took B5 for 9 months straight @10G.. my skin was perfect and I was happy. I then decided to stop taking B5 (cause my skin was great) after a few months my skin got worse so I went back on B5. Nothing happened this time and after a few months my hair started to shed. That was 10 years ago.
my hair continues to shed but obviously less now cause there is not as much.
There is no bro science here, and your making it sound like were just inventing stuff when we all have the same stories. The only person I seen recover was a girl so yeah maybe we had an underlying MPB gene and this somehow it accelerated it.
You can believe your whole B5 depleted other vitaminstheory but that is bullshit. Me and others have had this for 10 years surely they would have corrected by now. I also took b complex and done nothing.
You sound like a young person and I know your probably angry after reading the thread cause there is no answers but believe me its not the end of the world.
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1 hour ago, VITAMINB5FUCKEDME said:u shuld try running some blood tests and also check for any autoimmune diseases. Also if ur feeling other side effects then hair loss like eyebrow thinning, fatigue, cold feet and hands, stool changes. U shuld prolly talk to ur GP about thatand also just try to lead a healthy diet. Don't smoke, drink. Go gluten free, no sugar, eat more foods high in antioxidants. Basically any fruit and vegetables and exercise.
Done many blood tests.. checked everything.. all in order.
Why gluten free? Are you just making this stuff up as you go along?
why are you suggesting these things? Have you stopped the shedding?
if not then I dont wanna hear your shitty recommendations.
1 hour ago, chiefdez said:i kinda feel like y'all haven't heard of a normal hair shedding cycle... u dont shed a lot of hair bc its normal to shed only a little, not bc "theres not much hair to shed anymore".u was on 10grfor 9 months and nothing happened to ur hair, what makes u think the 2nd time it was B5? more hair shedding can be normal at different stages in life and certain times of the year.
and like i said, several guys on this forum actually reported their hair loss not only stopped but also had significant regrowth and some of them did nothing to get it, it just happened. the girls didn't say anything ab lasting improvements and one of them came here for hair loss unrelated to B5. u cant trust anyone here.
yalls stories are v different if u ask me the only thing in common is the 10 yrs thing which says nothing. mpb is far more common and has early onset in lots of ppl.
i'm not saying u invented stuffi'm just letting u know how unscientific and baselessall these theories are. if i can recognise what's nonsense being a 20yr old, how can u not do it at 30yrs old
the only thing to be angry at this thread about is the lack of sense and scientific base. i do not struggle from B5 hair loss and i, like others,just came here to provide some help and maybe shine some logic into yalls thinking. threads like this is what makes other pplfreak tf out for no actual reason
ppl just easily ignore that B5 cant have lasting changes in ur body as we would all be acne free forever after stoppingB5,yet acne comes backrapidly if we stop it. simplest factto get ur head around.
It honestly sounds like your trying to dismiss everything we say and dont wanna believe this is happening to you. Your only 20 years old we are older and have way more expertise with this.
Look how big this thread is, believe me its happening to loads of people not just a select few.
anyway I have no good advice to give. Just dont do anything stupid like take more pills. Make B5 be your last.
Maybe someday someone will figure it out but I wont be holding my breath.
On 5/7/2020 at 4:19 AM, Darcy202 said:Done many blood tests.. checked everything.. all in order.
Why gluten free? Are you just making this stuff up as you go along?
why are you suggesting these things? Have you stopped the shedding?
if not then I dont wanna hear your shitty recommendations.
It honestly sounds like your trying to dismiss everything we say and dont wanna believe this is happening to you. Your only 20 years old we are older and have way more expertise with this.
Look how big this thread is, believe me its happening to loads of people not just a select few.
anyway I have no good advice to give. Just dont do anything stupid like take more pills. Make B5 be your last.
Maybe someday someone will figure it out but I wont be holding my breath.
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21 hours ago, chiefdez said:expertise doesn't necessarily come with age, guess a 30yr old should know.
this thread is big bc it's filled with conversations of the same 6people over the years. u'd go back and see dudes who said their hair issue resolved.
i don't have B5 hair loss so idk what you're going for with that. i was on B5 for 3 months but decided to go offbc i started getting deficiency symptoms.
reading reviews brought me here to see what it rly is about & i just see that threads like this scare ppl out for no legit reason. someone must say it since y'all going crazy. i'm not the first person to come here suggesting that all this is insanity at its best.
u aint doing urself any better by dismissing ideas of others.
This thread was not created to scare people. At the beginning people acted like Ginnypigs and took different vitamins/minerals to help correct the hair loss caused by Overdoes ofB5.
Nobody got back with a clear answer to fix it. Surely if I or anyone else figured it out Wewould let people know.
you say you dont have an issue with hair loss so why are you hear telling people there stupid?
millions of people take B5 everyday with no issues of course. but people dont overdose and take 10G a day for months like some of us did. There is no way of knowing whatdamage that has done to peoples bodies.
Anyway Im not trying to scare people.. like I said earlier there is more to life then good looking hair just be glad your not bald. And if your really desperate Im sure you could get a transplant.
On 5/2/2020 at 9:12 AM, brendan452 said:There is not one person who cured there b5 hair loss on this whole forum.
Don't spread misinformation, I haven't lost hair for over a year now.
All my other symptoms are also gone.
On 5/6/2020 at 10:07 PM, chiefdez said:expertise doesn't necessarily come with age, guess a 30yr old should know.
this thread is big bc it's filled with conversations of the same 6people over the years. u'd go back and see dudes who said their hair issue resolved.
i don't have B5 hair loss so idk what you're going for with that. i was on B5 for 3 months but decided to go offbc i started getting deficiency symptoms.
reading reviews brought me here to see what it rly is about & i just see that threads like this scare ppl out for no legit reason. someone must say it since y'all going crazy. i'm not the first person to come here suggesting that all this is insanity at its best.
u aint doing urself any better by dismissing ideas of others.
I can tell you the problem with this thread. It's an infinite loop, it's the same thing over and over and over:
1. New frogcomes on thread with b5 hair loss
2. New frogthen proceeds to not read the thread andask for easy mode 10$ pill off Amazon cure (of which obviouslydoesn't and won't ever exist)
3. New frogthen goes to general practitioner (which is absolutely useless when it comes to b5 hair loss) which thenrecommends blood tests (all of which provide no information remotely related to b5 hair loss)
4. New frog then proceeds to waste their time withrandom supplements that either don't work or make things worse or get more blood tests (all of which have been taken and studied anyways)
On 5/30/2020 at 5:05 PM, MrBushido said:
Don't spread misinformation, I haven't lost hair for over a year now.
All my other symptoms are also gone.
I can tell you the problem with this thread. It's an infinite loop, it's the same thing over and over and over:
1. New frogcomes on thread with b5 hair loss
2. New frogthen proceeds to not read the thread andask for easy mode 10$ pill off Amazon cure (of which obviouslydoesn't and won't ever exist)
3. New frogthen goes to general practitioner (which is absolutely useless when it comes to b5 hair loss) which thenrecommends blood tests (all of which provide no information remotely related to b5 hair loss)
4. New frog then proceeds to waste their time withrandom supplements that either don't work or make things worse or get more blood tests (all of which have been taken and studied anyways)
Whoawhat? I was one of the original posters of this like 8 years ago. I have been sporadically checking this forum since then, but I had no idea you were able to stop it. To save me a bit of searching, do you think you could post it?
On 5/6/2020 at 7:07 PM, chiefdez said:expertise doesn't necessarily come with age, guess a 30yr old should know.
this thread is big bc it's filled with conversations of the same 6people over the years. u'd go back and see dudes who said their hair issue resolved.
i don't have B5 hair loss so idk what you're going for with that. i was on B5 for 3 months but decided to go offbc i started getting deficiency symptoms.
reading reviews brought me here to see what it rly is about & i just see that threads like this scare ppl out for no legit reason. someone must say it since y'all going crazy. i'm not the first person to come here suggesting that all this is insanity at its best.
u aint doing urself any better by dismissing ideas of others.
Been around for 6 years reading this thread periodically, theres been waaay more than 6 people posting here, and probably plenty more lurking.
And lol at the irony of your last sentence.
Do you have nothing better to do than start arguments with strangersabout an issue that apparently has zero relevance to your life?
y'all doing the wrong thing. it's not that cysteine methionine carnitine etc etc got depleted by b5. it's just shock to your body that caused the hair loss, happens with any vitamin you overdose on. if you go on other B overdose groups you'll see they had hair loss from overdosing on any other B vitamin too not just b5 and the hair loss is reversible, lots of ppl have it gone even tho it takes months. stop taking supplements even B complex to fix it bc you won't and you're poisoning your body even more. give it time and let it release the shock and rebalance itself y'all are spreading false claims that b5 did this and that when it didn't, your body just had a shock from the overdose. it also looks some ppl here have androgenic hair loss and not b5 hair loss. b5 causes telogen effluvium and is reversible and affects all scalp not just temples and crown which androgenic hair loss affects. take care x