On 12/16/2018 at 6:36 AM, VitaminB5isGay said:

I want to die

No man. Iv felt like one of the saddeset men alive for years (life was doomed to be terrible), now I feel like the most happy person in the world and it has nothing to do with my hair.

Describe your hairloss. If its like mine I think Iv found the cure. Sorry to say its more b5.. Hahaha..

On 12/11/2018 at 9:20 PM, brendan452 said:

Hi guys hows it going on the b5 and the b complex

 

thanks

Yeah I dont know. Sofar so good I guess but its too early to say. Getting some pimples (that was expected)but my toenails are lesspurple nowand the grey hair production seems to have stopped.

Upped to 0.5g b5 powder +1b-complex pill

On 12/16/2018 at 2:38 PM, brendan452 said:

I think your taking too many supplements Ive taken most of the things youve taken with no benefit Im even sure that taking zinc actually made it worse and more dry.you have to be careful taking supplements

Dude my hair was so fking dry and brittle. Looked like old mans pubes.Escpecially the top front. Now My hair is back!Moist and thicklike a carpet. Although the lost hairs have not yet retuned and might never do so.

So are you saying b5 is working for you is that whats improved your hair

On 12/19/2018 at 1:54 PM, brendan452 said:

So are you saying b5 is working for you is that whats improved your hair

Thats right! Take at own risk man. Although I recommend it if your hairloss is like mine. If you have telogen effulivium or whatever its called then taking b5 again might not be a good ide.

I ate b5 10 grams a day for twoyears. A couple of weeks after I stopped taking itI noticed a little hairloss top side.. and some of the hair around it was dry and curlylike pubes. Since that day, seven years ago, Iv been losing hair. Mostly top sides and some top front. The hair gets curly, brittle and thin. To me this means this hair isnt going to stick around forever.

I threw out the theory here years ago hoping somebody would be the lab rat but no takers.So now I tried. I would have had hair like George Costanza in 10 years the way itwas going.

I started eating only b5 again but I got purple toenails and grey hairs. Added a b-complex pill and it seems to have fixed the problem.

Atm Im taking 0.25g b5 in the morning. Then 0.25g b5 with a b-complex pill mid day. Then at night 0.25g b5 powder again. Always with orange juice although I doubt that matters. Of course I dont know what Im doing. That goes without saying.

Okay thanks again for the feedback and good luck I hope you manage to free yourself from this horrible state that we are In.

im going to give it some thought before I commit to it but thanks

4 hours ago, brendan452 said:

Okay thanks again for the feedback and good luck I hope you manage to free yourself from this horrible state that we are In.

im going to give it some thought before I commit to it but thanks

I read your post from a couple of weeks back. You are losing hair allover your head. My hairloss resembles mpb. So we might not be suffering from the same thing and if thats the case the my solution might not fit your problem.

Those of you that have had hair Lois with B5, did it also cause body hair loss? Ive been taking B5 for a year and I think its actuallybeen helping my hair. However, 1 month ago Igot sick and had to take a ton of new medications for about a month. It triggered a massive shed and even all my body heir fell out. I dont realky think it was due to the B5, but it still makes me nervous.

Odd question but Did any of you get dry lips with your hair loss and when you started taking b5 and b complex again did it help your lips in any way

thanks

Does any one have any updates or consider themselves cured yet

Had a full hormone blood test yesterday everything was spot on except my prolactin is very very high.

@brendan452 dry area in between eyebrows and on eyelids, not really dry lips though. My face has started to look way worse in general since i first started taking the B5. unlucky

22 hours ago, VitaminB5isGay said:

@brendan452 dry area in between eyebrows and on eyelids, not really dry lips though. My face has started to look way worse in general since i first started taking the B5. unlucky

B5 supplementation stimulates your adrenal glands and at high dosages can compromise / crash your adrenal glands

There was a study done on the effects of b5 on the adrenal glandsabout a decade back : https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18520055

If you feel lethargic during the day and wired at night you could have adrenal fatigue, which additionally has a direct hormonal influence on acne, you can read about this here:

https://adrenalfatiguesolution.com/acne-adrenal-fatigue/

Just a suggestion, my acne became a lot more severeas well before I started correcting my adrenal glands

Soo, what's the type of hairloss that has been caused most often by B5, based off this forum? I'm not receding, nor am i losing any hair near my crown, but I've lost ~75% of my hair all over the top of my scalp, starting at the hairline and ending right before my crown. As for the sides, one side has not thinned whatsoever, but the other side has thinned just as much as the top of my hair, which is super odd. so basically diffuse thinning all over the top of my head and on the left side of my head, but not on my crown or on the right side of my head lmao. I've had this going on for almost 2 years, since i was 17, so it's not TE, and I've had my blood tested, everything looks normal including the thyroid and such. it was obviously the B5, biggest mistake of my life.

Does anyone have any thoughts on that 

How long did you all take B5 for before your hairloss began?

On 2/5/2019 at 2:10 PM, brendan452 said:

 

Does anyone have any thoughts on that 

Obviously this line stands out "but such an effect has not been demonstrated in humans".

I don't believe anybody on this thread has ever found any vitamin deficiency associated with the cause of b5 hair loss. I think anybody getting a blood test hoping to find the root cause of their hair loss will be disappointed.

So what is the answer

On 2/16/2019 at 1:57 PM, brendan452 said:

So what is the answer

Well, let's review people who have reported resolving their hair loss thus far:

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hermetic

PostedSeptember 3, 2014

But cutting a long story short - I noticed a complete reversal and actual growth of hair by using 3 particular supplements. I am more inclined to believe that personally, long term B5 usage had disrupted/caused an effect on my thyroid gland and my adrenals. After much trial and testing using a vast array of supplements, including B12, I noticed a huge dramatic effect when I incorporated:

- Raw Thyroid/Adrenal Cortex/Liver

- Potassium Iodide

- Colostrum

 

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discomfortzone

PostedMarch 2, 2015

Hi all,

The following is what I used to alleviate the symptoms of itchy scalp and diffuse hair loss (listed in what I believe is the order of their contribution to the improvement):

1. Psoriatrax tar shampoo. Used every day for the first two weeks, then every other day (alternating with Jason Dandruff Relief shampoo and, occasionally, Nizoral),

2. Colostrum Plus (2 scoops twice a day),

3. Scalp serum with Lavender and Rosemary oil (been using it for a while). Apply about twice a week.

4. Holy basil extract, ashwagandha, valerian root (adaptogens) taken before bed.

 

I'm no detective, but it's easy to see that both of these people were using adrenal gland supportsupplements during the time they reported resolving b5 hair loss. Adrenal glandsupplements happened to also be the only supplements (coupled with thyroid supplements)that improved my hair loss and resolved it. My answer is that I think these are your options:

1. Book an appointment with a respectable Naturopathic doctor and see if they are able to support / assist you with your hair loss.
2. Journey down the wary road of supporting your thyroid / adrenal glands, which mainly involves taking related supplements(non-stimulatory especially no b5)and attempting to gaugewhich supplements assist in theresolution of your hair loss and which ones make it worse. You may additionally need to change your diet and sleeping schedule to complement the supplements. With your final goal being to restore your body to its pre-b5 state.
3. Undertake a combination of 1 and 2.
4. Take DHT inhibitingdrugs / supplements and risk the side effects.
5. Wait it out (wait until your hair loss resolves or you have no more hair left).

The aboveis just my personal opinion and suggestive in nature.

Okay thanks

@MrBushidoQuestion. There were more people in this thread than that that fixed their hairloss, i can remember ~4 or 5, and weren't you one of them? I don't think all of them solved it with thyroid/adrenal supplements iirc, but I'll try anyways because I'm ultra desperate. And if your hair still is grown back, anything in specific you felt helped besides the thyroid support and colostrum, like a diet?

Thanks for helping us out, by the way. I dunno what you're still doing around on these forums after all these years. You a doctor or something?

On 2/19/2019 at 6:11 PM, VitaminB5isGay said:

@MrBushidoQuestion. There were more people in this thread than that that fixed their hairloss, i can remember ~4 or 5, and weren't you one of them? I don't think all of them solved it with thyroid/adrenal supplements iirc, but I'll try anyways because I'm ultra desperate. And if your hair still is grown back, anything in specific you felt helped besides the thyroid support and colostrum, like a diet?

Thanks for helping us out, by the way. I dunno what you're still doing around on these forums after all these years. You a doctor or something?

I believe there was 1 more person,I can't recall what he took however. Just trying to steer everyone away from trying to fix vitamin / mineral deficiencies that don't exist.

My diet is a straightforward strategy - reduce carbohydrates / gluten /sugaras much as possible andavoid all stimulants. I additionallytry to get 8 + hours of sleep and nap when I'm tired. I also consume half a teaspoon of sea salt everyday, which can vary bearing alternative sodium sources(this is just generic adrenal fatigue advice).

Your hair doesn't grow back when you resolve b5 hair loss, the hair you lose is from increased DHT in the scalp (regardless of whether DHT inhibitors work for you or not) and is permanent (I personally had my scalp examined).

I don't take colostrum, colostrum is a stimulant just like b5 (but weaker) and increases your adrenal gland activity.Can it reduce your hair loss in the short term ? Absolutely, but taking b5 again could have the exact same effect.Will it exacerbate your hair loss over the long term? I personally wouldn't risk it.

I do not currently take any thyroid supplements anymore, the supplements I'm currently taking have never been posted on this forum thread (and because of previous backlash I won't ever disclose them). I suggest you find your own path with adrenal / thyroid supplements and course correct as needed or seek medical assistance, we're all unique in our symptoms and severity.

On 12/20/2018 at 8:00 PM, itsoveroveriknowiknow said:

 

Thats right! Take at own risk man. Although I recommend it if your hairloss is like mine. If you have telogen effulivium or whatever its called then taking b5 again might not be a good ide.

 

I ate b5 10 grams a day for twoyears. A couple of weeks after I stopped taking itI noticed a little hairloss top side.. and some of the hair around it was dry and curlylike pubes. Since that day, seven years ago, Iv been losing hair. Mostly top sides and some top front. The hair gets curly, brittle and thin. To me this means this hair isnt going to stick around forever.

 

I threw out the theory here years ago hoping somebody would be the lab rat but no takers.So now I tried. I would have had hair like George Costanza in 10 years the way itwas going.

 

I started eating only b5 again but I got purple toenails and grey hairs. Added a b-complex pill and it seems to have fixed the problem.

 

Atm Im taking 0.25g b5 in the morning. Then 0.25g b5 with a b-complex pill mid day. Then at night 0.25g b5 powder again. Always with orange juice although I doubt that matters. Of course I dont know what Im doing. That goes without saying.

So... B5 is helping your hair?

You aren't even taking 100mg of B5 a day... is it working???

On 5/31/2018 at 12:29 AM, pjjordan19 said:

So I started dutasteride (Avodart) .5 mg once again. I am going to keep on it for longer and monitor everything with my dermontologist. I am also using Nizoral and requesting 2% ketoconazole shampoo from my derm to keep the dandruff and inflammation at a minimum. I've tried minoxidil too many times and for over a year without success to give it another try.

Update on dut usage?

On 9/25/2017 at 10:51 PM, Spyder2011 said:

Have had the same problems for 7 years. I started taking b5 at a gram a day for about 4 months until I noticed it was drying my skin out and making my hair fall out and become very brittle. Still to this day if I drink any caffeine, sugar or alchohol it reacts bad with me and starts the process of my skin getting dry and my hair falling out. I have eaten clean for a while now and it helps a lot. It's hard to do but no sugar, alchohol, or caffeine and I feel great skin is nice and hair starts coming back. I have done a lot of research here as of late because I have had time. I am a veteran and have been very busy for the last 8 years no chance to slow down. Anyways with all the research I have done I believe the next thing I am gonna try is a thyroid supplement for hypothyroidism. I think the b5 may have interacted with something in my body and stopped my thyroid from producing the right amount of hormone. Going to get a hypothyroidism support pill off amazon and try that. Maybe the b5 depleted selenium or iodine levels. Just a thought maybe it will help. Will update with my findings. The body is a fine tuned machine. Anything can be fixed within he body it's the right ingredients. Good luck everyone. Let's figure this out.

Bump?

Do we really need to avoid caffeine and sugar?

On 5/31/2018 at 12:29 AM, pjjordan19 said:

So I started dutasteride (Avodart) .5 mg once again. I am going to keep on it for longer and monitor everything with my dermontologist. I am also using Nizoral and requesting 2% ketoconazole shampoo from my derm to keep the dandruff and inflammation at a minimum. I've tried minoxidil too many times and for over a year without success to give it another try.

Update on dutasteride please?

Hey guys. I am still taking dutasteride.5 MG per day (since May 2018) which has slowed the hairloss without current side effects. I visit a doctor regularly for check-ins and have my blood levels checked for liver and kidney function- all healthy. I have not seen much regrowth (little hairs but they have not turned terminal) but I am still looking for something as minoxidil did not help after using for a year, stopped,then trying for another year.

I will continue to keep you guys updated!

I had a biotin blood test done cost me 100 with medilabs.com.

my biotin level came back at 411 mg/l not sure how to take it as some sites class below 600 as deficient and then other site class 400+ as optimal

Need to try and find the answer grghh