I am third guy here. I received the essential women yesterday. I took 3 pills in the evening. The next morning, i noticed a small tickeling at my nipples. I really hope that this is going to be the fix for us.
Regards

Tickling in male nipples is not good. Thats estrogen. Brendan have you noticed anything like this?

I do like most of the ingredients but it does contain soy which is estrogenic and not great for men.

No I haven't had any side effects or unusual symptoms what so ever.But it's going to take me another two weeks on proton pump inhibitors to get my malabsorption problem under control.
maybe what he experienced is unrelated he will have to keep us updated.

Ok thanks mate. Have you noticed any less shedding yet?

Hello,

I have been on essential woman for 3 weeks now taking 6 pills each day. I have not noticed a decrease in shedding yet, but my scalp has been less irritated for sure. I am going to give it at least 2 months before making a final verdict and will keep you guys posted. I am also applying Sayar Retain to my scalp once at night:

https://sayarcare.com/

Thats not very encouraging although i must say i didnt think it would work anyway.

Essential Woman 6x a day hasn't worked for me either (I'm female). I also previously tried the spearmint supplements, tea, and oil combination that Katiebear swore by in the past and it was completely ineffective as well. Does anyone else have substantiated claims that actually work?

I'm nearly three weeks in and no miracles to report I'm not shedding any less but my scalp does feel less itchy and oily

I didnt have tickling but I did have this weird brief stabbing pain in my breasts, almost like a nerve pain or a jolt that would happen for like half a second, then disappear. This went on along with a mild headache for the first few days on the essential woman. The pain hasnt returned since. I still havent had a return of my shedding, right now I just shed the normal amount that a regular person sheds. No bald spots, no irritation. I do have some growth so my hair is still growing. Cant speak for regrowth from what was lost, however.

On 1/24/2018 at 8:29 PM, valorous said:

Essential Woman 6x a day hasn't worked for me either (I'm female). I also previously tried the spearmint supplements, tea, and oil combination that Katiebear swore by in the past and it was completely ineffective as well. Does anyone else have substantiated claims that actually work?

Did you use essential woman or evening primrose oil?
How long did you take it for before deciding it didn™t work?  I just read your other posts for acne.org and I can see that you are possibly still taking the b5 (by your wording) because you said it works so well for your acne and so far you haven™t found anything better.  
It also appears by your posts you were taking mega doses of vitamin A, which also causes hairloss.  This would also be another reason essential woman isn™t working for you.  Vitamin A overdose-related hairloss could require an entirely different treatment.  
I™m just not seeing anywhere where you write that you gave up b5?

I™m asking these questions not to discredit you, but to collect as much data as possible because none of us are the same on here. Many, like yourself, took mega doses of other things as well and may very well still be taking them for the acne problem.  
These could all be valid reasons why essential woman didn™t work for you.  I don™t think it™s fair to discredit it by saying it doesn™t work, because the measurable data we do have says myself and two other female users stopped their b5 hairloss with this product. Three people is a small number, but it™s still three more than any of the hundreds of other people on here have to back up their claims.

I say to everyone on here to be cautious and question anyone that says they™ve cured themselves with something.  Ask for before and after photos and update photos-and I™m sorry but if people aren™t forthcoming, that™s a red flag.  Ask when they stopped the b5, ask if they are still trying to take it, ask what other megadoses are they taking.  The same can be said for people claiming something doesn™t work.  Ask what other megadoses they were/are still taking, as this could be an huge indicator as to why something isn™t working.
 Back to Valorous.  I think it™s irresponsible to discredit Essential Woman completely:  #1. given your unique situation with the Vitamin A megadoses you took and also #2. because it may discourage other users from trying it and curing themselves like I and the others did. 

I know this is of topic but has anyone tried hyaluronic acid supplements.and if so were they any good

Katiebear, those posts were from 2016... I haven't been on B5 or Vitamin A, or anything else, for years since the hair loss became a problem for me. And yes, I took Essential Women by Barlean's 6x a day for over 3 weeks now. Completely ineffective unfortunately, as I'm sure others will continue to report. Same as the spearmint capsules, oil, and tea you previously swore by. The only thing I didn't try that you recommended was sitting in the sun... because, well, that seemed ridiculous and unfounded. The only "data" you have is 2 Amazon reviews by people with unknown charactertics and your own claims after your hair loss stopped, for one reason or another.

Of course, I encourage all suggestions supporting resolution of the B5 hair loss issue. That being said, we should have the maturity to accept cases where our suggestions don't seem to be working for others.

Be very very careful when using Finasteride.... could save a life here simply google Post Finasteride syndrome and the potential side effects so many men experience often covered by the big pharmas.

6 hours ago, valorous said:

Katiebear, those posts were from 2016... I haven't been on B5 or Vitamin A, or anything else, for years since the hair loss became a problem for me. And yes, I took Essential Women by Barlean's 6x a day for over 3 weeks now. Completely ineffective unfortunately, as I'm sure others will continue to report. Same as the spearmint capsules, oil, and tea you previously swore by. The only thing I didn't try that you recommended was sitting in the sun... because, well, that seemed ridiculous and unfounded. The only "data" you have is 2 Amazon reviews by people with unknown charactertics and your own claims after your hair loss stopped, for one reason or another.

Of course, I encourage all suggestions supporting resolution of the B5 hair loss issue. That being said, we should have the maturity to accept cases where our suggestions don't seem to be working for others.

Valorous-I never swore by anything, I tried a variety of things, shared what I tried, shared my results, and was always forthcoming when I had false positive or unhelpful results.

When something works for three women but doesnt work for you, It means it doesnt work for you. It doesnt mean tell everyone, It doesnt work as Im sure others will continue report. This negates the valid reported results and discourages others who are looking for answers from trying it.
My only data is not just two random Amazon reviewers, as you claim. For one, the Amazon reviews are also members on here, they arent unknown characters. I can read their posts and see what caused their issue, what theyve tried, what worked. I can also see that they stopped logging into this forum when their issue was resolved. Secondly, my other data has been posted in links Ive shared of scientific trials, news stories, and my own screen shots.

This has worked for me and two others, so if you want to follow up that kind of good news by telling everyone theyll soon find it doesnt work, you only serve to discourage people. One would expect a bit more good will than that on here. If good will is too much for you to manage, perhaps just a certain level of maturity.
These people are in a public forum looking for answers. I shared a lot of personal stuff, kept looking, found my answer, and shared it. This is called help.
You made posts (directly mentioning me and all of my trials and errors) telling people essential woman doesnt work. Im aware enough to know that you mentioning the stuff Ive tried was your way of telling people Ive failed before and shouldnt be trusted with this, either.
If you were interested in honesty and not just bashing people with success stories, youd have mentioned your megadosing of vit A being a relevant data point to consider when determined the cause/cure for your individual hair loss.
Anyway, I hope you do find your cure. You wont find it by badmouthing other peoples cure, though. When three people find something that works for them, you should be happy for them, not attempt to negate their results by citing their publicly shared trial & errors as some kind of evidence against them.
Imsorry Essential Woman didnt work for you. It sucks, you totally have a right to share that. It doesnt give you the right to suggest everyone on here give it up because its not going to work for them, either.Thats called being a jealous, sore loser. If youre going to try to harm other people instead of helping them, then Im going to respond by telling you about yourself.
Also, if anyone would like pics of my scalp/hair, Im happy to send a private message showing my progress from using this product.

Katiebear, I said Im sure others will continue to report that Barleans will not work because in addition to myself, pjjordan and brendan452 have also indicated that thus far, your suggestion has not stopped their shedding (although there still may be hope for brendan452 because he had a malabsorption issue). Im not sure why Im being singled out and my comments are being misconstrued? I encourage a careful rereading of my two prior posts. For one, I never said the two Amazon reviewers were unknown characters (although Id agree with that as well); I said reviewers possess unknown characteristics. This means that theyre not control subjects. I.e., who knows what other variables could have led to the cessation of their hair loss. Frankly, were all speculating here because unfortunately, there arent scientific studies on vitamin B5 hair loss. Although there should be! Second, bolstering your claim by referring to scientific trials, news stories, and my own screen shots is a bit misleading Regarding your support for Barleans, the one study you cite tested evening primrose oil and primrose oil + fish oil, not Barleans Essential Women. Although Barleans does contain primrose oil, you yourself have emphasized that primrose oil is not as effective as Barleans. The other source is a random article with no citations, and I assume the pictures you are referring to are those of your hair in the sun when you were posting about the sun being a cure?

In any event, I apologize that I offended you. At the end of the day, this forum is meant to facilitate suggestions tailored to resolve the B5 hair loss issue, soI wont indulge in any further pettiness. People researching this issue shouldn't be have to scroll through catty comments. I do not mean to discourage anyone from trying out suggestions; after all, the more people that experiment on this issue the better!But false hope can also be detrimental. Thus, if something is not working for me, I will not hesitate to point that out (for anyone that's interested, inositol/choline hasn't worked for me either).

Waiting to hear from Blue09 and moelaz on Barleans. I do hope it works for someone else or thatunrelated success stories are posted!

Youre being petty by continuing to discredit my data, personal testimony, and links. Thats why Im calling you out. As far as your criticism of my pic, its a photo of my widening hairlinefrom rapid hairloss, not a false hopesuccess story like you are suggesting. Im not even going to address the other links and studies Ive posted that youre attempting to discredit. In the end, the proof is in the pudding. Im willing to submitpics and allow people to monitor my results in orderto back up my claims-this isnot false hope as you call it. False hope is not complete transparency and willingness to share results and updates. Its unfortunate that you feel the need to target one of the only success storieson here that at least three females(and likely more if youveread all of the Amazon reviews)have attributed to this. Oh well. No good deed goes unpunished, right? As far as you saying you hope it works for someone else, I highly doubt you mean that given your previous post in which you suggest just the opposite. You want people to fail on this just as you have.You are being fake. I havent misconstrued any of your statements. You want todiscredit me because Ihadsuccess with it and you didnt. You said it yourself. Petty.

17 hours ago, Katiebear89 said:

Youre being petty by continuing to discredit my data, personal testimony, and links. Thats why Im calling you out. As far as your criticism of my pic, its a photo of my widening hairlinefrom rapid hairloss, not a false hopesuccess story like you are suggesting. Im not even going to address the other links and studies Ive posted that youre attempting to discredit. In the end, the proof is in the pudding. Im willing to submitpics and allow people to monitor my results in orderto back up my claims-this isnot false hope as you call it. False hope is not complete transparency and willingness to share results and updates. Its unfortunate that you feel the need to target one of the only success storieson here that at least three females(and likely more if youveread all of the Amazon reviews)have attributed to this. Oh well. No good deed goes unpunished, right? As far as you saying you hope it works for someone else, I highly doubt you mean that given your previous post in which you suggest just the opposite. You want people to fail on this just as you have.You are being fake. I havent misconstrued any of your statements. You want todiscredit me because Ihadsuccess with it and you didnt. You said it yourself. Petty.

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Two cups per day. See what works for you though, you may need more or less.

Not to cause drama, but you're on this forum trying to advocate hormone altering supplements designed for WOMENto MEN and you seemingly know nothing about the kinds of side effects these supplements can cause. With some simple searching you can find forums like this one :Transgender Reddit: Using Spearmint Tea To Reduce Testerone. I'm going to take a wild guess and assume the men on this forum are not looking to switch genders. Ever heard of thePropecia Help Forum? These life altering side effects are not limited to finasteride alone, but can be caused by (spearmint tea, saw palmetto, nettle, etc.) and include effects like permanent brain fog, becoming sterile,gynecomastia, etc. How do I know ? It's well documented and I've experienced these side effects first hand.

Not to be captain obvious here, but I think this needs to be said. The majority of the people still experiencing b5 hair loss are men and while you're perfectly welcome to free speech on this forum, I suggest you educate yourself on how your arbitrary suggestions could destroy people's lives.

I'm a male and completely resolved my hair loss using only 2 supplements:

• Motherwort
• Ascorbic Acid

Altering hormones is not the solution to b5 hair loss For Men, it never was or will be, it's a just a cover up, an ephemeral facade. You want to get rid of your hair loss ? Start looking at fixing your body, not rigging your hormones.

MrBushido

please give us more details on how you successfully resolved your hair loss problems.
Even Elmechanico has resolved the problems but we have no details on his regime and what could helped him.
Indeed, i felt my nipples tickling after taking Essentials women, but i don't think that 5 mg of soy isaflavones can make a huge impact on men hormones. Asian peoples eat soy like everyday.

Regards

Never heard of motherwart but vitamin c never did anything for me. What doses were you taking and for how long until your hair stopped shedding?

Just comencing my 4th week on the essential woman and very sad to report still shedding and no new growth however my scalp does feel less itchy and my hair is less oily.
i will continue with these supplements for another month until the end of February and let you know.
but I am very interested in what mr bushido has to say because he's a male and we should be able to relate more.
i think there has been a few males that have cured themselves of this but when they do they just disappear

2 hours ago, Blue09 said:

Never heard of motherwart but vitamin c never did anything for me. What doses were you taking and for how long until your hair stopped shedding?

I just want tomention that vitamin C and the buffered ascorbic acid I take are not the same. I took motherwort and buffered ascorbic acid for several months, after which I dropped motherwort and started only taking ascorbic acid (I still take it).

I used the ascorbic acid found here ( https://adrenalfatiguesolution.com/recommended-products/ ) [Pure Encapsulations Buffered Ascorbic Acid Powder]. I only take a quarter scoop daily (about 250 mg), if you do take this, make sure you take a lower than recommended dose, taking large doses of ascorbic acid is not healthy for you.

The motherwort I took is this one (1 full squeeze per day as per recommended) - https://www.amazon.com/Herb-Pharm-Certified-Motherwort-Endocrine/dp/B00014H78S/ref=sr_1_3_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1517182205&sr=8-3&keywords=motherwort

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Just comencing my 4th week on the essential woman and very sad to report still shedding and no new growth however my scalp does feel less itchy and my hair is less oily.
i will continue with these supplements for another month until the end of February and let you know.
but I am very interested in what mr bushido has to say because he's a male and we should be able to relate more.
i think there has been a few males that have cured themselves of this but when they do they just disappear

Unfortunately, there is no one size fits all solution, while I am happy to disclose what helped me recover, it may not work for you or the doses may need adjusting.

I additionally had to make numerous lifestyle choices, reducing gluten, carbohydrates, eliminating sugar / caffeine. Even eliminating polyunsaturated fats like fish (which prevent adrenal recovery). That is all key, as per any adrenal fatigue diet.

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So I think I am onto something here and I wanted to share it. I found out by reading another b5 suffers post in a comments section that she believed she had developed an auto immune disease caused by excess b5. She also had all the symptoms from taking excess b vitamins including very dry skin and loosing hair and said she went to her doctor and they diagnosed her with an autoimmune disease called celiac disease. So after doing some research on the disease I decided to go gluten free. I have been on a gluten free diet and have not been eating any bread for about 3 weeks now and am feeling a whole lot better. I broke out a little after about 4 days of no gluten but it quickly cleared up and I have read that is normal. My skin isnt near as dry and the red dry spots on my scalp are almost gone. My skin also feels a lot more hydrated. I still dont drink caffeine at the moment or any sugar because it was contributing to my dry scalp and skin. Now after 3 weeks of having no bread and gluten free I feel like I really have this b5 problem under control for the first time in long time to the point where I almost cant believe it. Milk also bothers me so I dont drink it for now either. Not saying that going gluten free will work for you but it has honestly been a miracle so far for me I feel a whole lot better. Will update in another Month. Good luck and has anyone else tried this?

How does intolerance to sugar + intolerance to caffeine + intolerance to gluten = gluten intolerance ? Literally every time you post it's like a webmd page for adrenal fatigue but it seems you haven't figured that out yet. You can read on how gluten impacts your adrenals here :Gluten Adrenal Burnout

Bushido does your hair still shed or is it just normal shedding now? Also have you had any regrowth yet? Thanks for updating us.

MrBushido,

Did motherworth helped with the scalp inflamation and the oilness. Did you experienced hair growth using thoses product.
Please we need to understand your hair loss timeline. Maybe your problems were resolved by their own, because telogene effluvium will run out it's course. How long you have been experiencing hair loss and when you think you resolved the issue.
Thank you for your time
Help us to recover and have a decent life again.

Telogen effluvium takes about 6 months to recover from although some never recover. Its been 8 years for me now so i dont think its that.

19 hours ago, Blue09 said:

Bushido does your hair still shed or is it just normal shedding now? Also have you had any regrowth yet? Thanks for updating us.

b5 hair loss is permanent so my hair isn't coming back by itself. I never really had any shedding prior to b5 hair loss, so I guess you could say I'm back to that state.

10 hours ago, moelaz said:

MrBushido,

Did motherworth helped with the scalp inflamation and the oilness. Did you experienced hair growth using thoses product.
Please we need to understand your hair loss timeline. Maybe your problems were resolved by their own, because telogene effluvium will run out it's course. How long you have been experiencing hair loss and when you think you resolved the issue.
Thank you for your time
Help us to recover and have a decent life again.

I don't think that Telogen effluvium is being considered as a cause of b5 hair loss anymore. Did I experience hair growth ? Sorry to say, b5 hair loss is permanent, what you lose is gone forever. However my hair is back to normal thickness and the intense burning / scalp inflammation is gone. When did it resolve ? About a month ago, when I was only taking buffered ascorbic acid. I had b5 hair loss for around 3 years and it showed no sign of self resolution. Like other people, I cannot honestly tell you if motherwort helped as it could be coincidental, however it certainly seemed like it did.