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Good work blue! Let us now how it goes.
Personally Im close to losing all hope. For now Im just waiting for the scientist to come up with a cure haha ;( My hair is getting so bad Iv lost all confidence.. And I used to be so Beautiful.. Girls.. Forget about it!
Chin up itsover I will find a cure
Don't give up. The massive doses of B5 just knocked something else relatively out of proportion in you. We just have to find what it is, and address it. It could be another vitamin/s, or fatty acids, or minerals, or hormones. The fact that you took it for a while without any problems suggests that you had plenty of reserves of it. What was going on at the time? Were you on some strict diet? Were you stressed? Did you get sick (flu) or something just before the B5? What country are you in? You posted at 1am, my time (west coast USA) so are you in the UK?
itsover- your can still be gorgeous without hair! Some men shave their heads by choice, it's not the end of the world. For me personally (and a lot of women I know) the 'beauty' of a guy isn't particularly important, stature, build, voice, eyes and level of maturity are much more important.
grape- thanks for your advice. I will look in to the powders x
I've been doing a lot of research on peptides and I've tried some before but they were different types for different things. Here's a list of some others I will be trying.
Copper peptides - ghk-cu and ahk-cu
Some people have had good results using it as a topical and also one guy had a lot of regrowth injecting it sub q.
Healing peptides - tb-400 and epitalon and bpc-157
These are all injected sub q. Lots of people are reporting hair growth and hair looking much more healthy and fuller. There are many other advantages to these peptides too like anti aging, less wrinkles, more energy, better skin, faster healing, healing of organs and more.
I've ordered epitalon and will be going from there but I'll keep you guys updated.
These peptides you speak of sound very interesting.
Personally, while my hairline isn't perfect, my hair overall is pretty decent right now.
Been doing LLLT since October 2014. Taking tons of supplements.
If I posted pics you would probably not tell I was losing my hair really. I have a hairstyle that covers is nicely and my hair actually looks good.
That said I am very interested in your research Blue, please keep me posted!
http://suppversity.blogspot.ca/2012/01/problems-with-high-or-low-dht-use-rice.html due to this article I've been taking http://www.swansonvitamins.com/swanson-ultra-proc3g-from-black-rice-100-mg-60-veg-caps to lower DHT. I really am taking a whole host of different supplements, too many to list here unless someone was really interested.
Blue, keep in touch sir. 
@freaking - Well, I have some encouraging feedback. The L-lysine powder I've been taking for 5 days seems to have stopped my hair falling out. It stopped falling out on the third day.
I'm taking L-lysine as a powder. The dose that was recommended by the hairloss thread this thread linked to, was 2000mg a day. I'm taking about 1800mg... 3 doses of 1/4 teaspoon (600mg). I take 1/4tsp when I get up, 1/4tsp mid-morning, and 1/4tsp at bedtime. You are supposed to take amino acids away from food - otherwise it combines with other amino acids to make proteins.
Up until I started the L-lysine powder I was taking cheap Walmart L-lysine tablets 1000mg in two doses (away from food). The powder is nothing but L-lysine, it's way better absorbed, and it's got none of the binders and fillers that the tablets have. I have dodgy digestion so it's possible I wasn't getting the full 1000mg from those tablets cos of all the other crap they contained (maybe?). [Edited to add that I stopped taking the L-lysine tablets. I am just having the L-lysine powder.]
This is the brand I bought: http://amzn.to/1OVaus1
Today I start taking L-proline. That was supposed to help your hair shafts to grow thicker. I'd not expect to see any visible results with that for a couple of months. Again, you are to take 2000mg a day.
Have you had your blood test yet? If so, how did it go? Do you have the results yet?
@freaking
You're not serious! Sheesh... that's just crap. I have skinny arms and my veins are hard to find. I clench my fist until the needle goes in - to pump it up and make it easier to find. I've had some really rubbish nurses, though they've never screwed up as badly as yours did.
I'm going to see if I can find that thread, that folk here posted to. Maybe read that, and see what you think - before buying anything. What's your diet like? The L-lysine thing rings true for me cos I eat lots of beans and nuts and seeds - and they are high in L-arginine. L-arginine is an antagonist of L-lysine, and throws the ratio out of balance. So I'd be relatively low in L-lysine. So, for me it made sense that I could be low in L-lysine.
@freaking
Oh, that was easy. I had it bookmarked. http://www.acnearchives.com/4226
@freaking
You may find this article interesting: http://www.larabriden.com/causes-of-hormonal-hair-loss/
Don't give up. The massive doses of B5 just knocked something else relatively out of proportion in you. We just have to find what it is, and address it. It could be another vitamin/s, or fatty acids, or minerals, or hormones. The fact that you took it for a while without any problems suggests that you had plenty of reserves of it. What was going on at the time? Were you on some strict diet? Were you stressed? Did you get sick (flu) or something just before the B5? What country are you in? You posted at 1am, my time (west coast USA) so are you in the UK?
When I was taking the B5 I was still a bit sick from the week before. I also ate hardly anything during the roughly 10 days I took it. What do you think that could mean? I started noticing heavily increased shedding immediately after taking it. It's now been two years and no real change.
My scalp is constantly itchy, red, inflamed and dry no matter which oils, shampoos or treatments I use
Read with a cup of herbal tea. This is a big'un.
There are so many people on other boards, using high dose B5 for acne. Plus it's recommended by a couple of holistic doctors I respect - who routinely suggest it for their acne patients, with good results. And yet this relatively small group congregating on this board has ongoing problems. Whereas the all the other folk don't. As I've read over the thread I've noticed that some folk were on odd diets, and some had other stuff (stress) going on at the time. Maybe some people had unhealthy lifestyles, long-term, before starting the megadose B5. So, my thinking is that each person here tipped something unique to them over the edge with the B5 megadosing... in your already compromised bodies. By contrast: for the normal healthy person the B5 treatment does do what it's supposed to do.
My feeling too is that everyone here is different. You throwing up, and undereating may have compromised your reserves of something-or-other - and then when you add a major stressor (megadose of B5) you've further taxed that hormone/nutrient. And cos you still don't know what the hormone/nutrient/other was that was struggling when you were ill/undereating - you're still paying the price cos it hasn't been corrected.
I know you're a bit different (and so is @freaking) cos unlike most of the others you only took B5 a short time. So what follows seems harder to believe or apply to your case. I work with people recovering from alcohol dependence. And we all know the popular saying "Once a drunk, always a drunk". That is certainly true to an extent - cos all those years of alcohol abuse changes your brain chemistry - so that even a couple a drinks a few years later, can trigger binge drinking, and relapse. Why? Because the brain's receptors for dopamine were flooded with mega-dopamine released by alcohol - and they struggle to function within a normal range, when the alcohol is removed. I help people people address this, so that they are not white-knuckling it through sobriety.
Why did I tell you all that? Because B5-megadosing may be similar. Just cos someone megadosed for months a couple of years ago - doesn't mean that the systems they impacted on will bounce back when you remove the B5. Alcoholics may have hypersensitive or low threshold for dopamine, which predisposes them to addiction. The folk here may have something which they were low in, or the threshold was narrow - which is causing the hairloss.
A person can also have what is loosely refered to as a nutrient dependency. Meaning to be 'normal' they need way more X nutrient, than the RDA. i.e. schizophrenics may need 3000mg of niacin, rather than the RDA of 30mg. And they'll take that forever more. Another example is diabetics... they excrete 11 times the thiamine (vitamin B1) in their urine, than someone who isn't diabetic. Different disease systems tax the body in different ways.
Oh, and the last thing (in this behemoth of a post) - is that there are subclinical deficiencies. You get a blood test for magnesium, and it shows up in the normal range. First - what's floating around in your blood doesn't mean an awful lot if it's not going into the cells where it is needed. Second - you may not have enough vitamin B6 (which wasn't tested for) to process the magnesium, so it's excreted. Third - if you are eating a truck load of sugar in your diet and the magnesium is used up processing that and none is left for other purposes. Just cos something falls within the normal range doesn't mean an awful lot. So, to determine whether you have a subclinical deficiency (a concentration that is too low for your body's needs) I feel it's best to go by symptoms.
I have ideas about what your symptoms suggest. But I'd probably need to ask you a few more questions before I'd make any suggestions.
Read with a cup of herbal tea. This is a big'un.
There are so many people on other boards, using high dose B5 for acne. Plus it's recommended by a couple of holistic doctors I respect - who routinely suggest it for their acne patients, with good results. And yet this relatively small group congregating on this board has ongoing problems. Whereas the all the other folk don't. As I've read over the thread I've noticed that some folk were on odd diets, and some had other stuff (stress) going on at the time. Maybe some people had unhealthy lifestyles, long-term, before starting the megadose B5. So, my thinking is that each person here tipped something unique to them over the edge with the B5 megadosing... in your already compromised bodies. By contrast: for the normal healthy person the B5 treatment does do what it's supposed to do.
My feeling too is that everyone here is different. You throwing up, and undereating may have compromised your reserves of something-or-other - and then when you add a major stressor (megadose of B5) you've further taxed that hormone/nutrient. And cos you still don't know what the hormone/nutrient/other was that was struggling when you were ill/undereating - you're still paying the price cos it hasn't been corrected.
I know you're a bit different (and so is @freaking) cos unlike most of the others you only took B5 a short time. So what follows seems harder to believe or apply to your case. I work with people recovering from alcohol dependence. And we all know the popular saying "Once a drunk, always a drunk". That is certainly true to an extent - cos all those years of alcohol abuse changes your brain chemistry - so that even a couple a drinks a few years later, can trigger binge drinking, and relapse. Why? Because the brain's receptors for dopamine were flooded with mega-dopamine released by alcohol - and they struggle to function within a normal range, when the alcohol is removed. I help people people address this, so that they are not white-knuckling it through sobriety.
Why did I tell you all that? Because B5-megadosing may be similar. Just cos someone megadosed for months a couple of years ago - doesn't mean that the systems they impacted on will bounce back when you remove the B5. Alcoholics may have hypersensitive or low threshold for dopamine, which predisposes them to addiction. The folk here may have something which they were low in, or the threshold was narrow - which is causing the hairloss.
A person can also have what is loosely refered to as a nutrient dependency. Meaning to be 'normal' they need way more X nutrient, than the RDA. i.e. schizophrenics may need 3000mg of niacin, rather than the RDA of 30mg. And they'll take that forever more. Another example is diabetics... they excrete 11 times the thiamine (vitamin B1) in their urine, than someone who isn't diabetic. Different disease systems tax the body in different ways.
Oh, and the last thing (in this behemoth of a post) - is that there are subclinical deficiencies. You get a blood test for magnesium, and it shows up in the normal range. First - what's floating around in your blood doesn't mean an awful lot if it's not going into the cells where it is needed. Second - you may not have enough vitamin B6 (which wasn't tested for) to process the magnesium, so it's excreted. Third - if you are eating a truck load of sugar in your diet and the magnesium is used up processing that and none is left for other purposes. Just cos something falls within the normal range doesn't mean an awful lot. So, to determine whether you have a subclinical deficiency (a concentration that is too low for your body's needs) I feel it's best to go by symptoms.
I have ideas about what your symptoms suggest. But I'd probably need to ask you a few more questions before I'd make any suggestions.
Feel free to ask me 
@elmechanico and @freaking. Sure, I'd be happy to. I'm busy today, but I'll message you both tomorrow.
p.s. the L-lysine is still working (my hair loss has slowed down). I've been on the L-proline for 4 days, but I'd not expect to see any results from that for at least a month. L-proline is supposed to grow stronger thicker hair, and obviously you'd not see anything from that in a few short days. Surely that has to help the situation! I'll start the L-cysteine on the weekend.
Good work blue! Let us now how it goes.
Personally Im close to losing all hope. For now Im just waiting for the scientist to come up with a cure haha ;( My hair is getting so bad Iv lost all confidence.. And I used to be so Beautiful.. Girls.. Forget about it!
Chin up itsover I will find a cure
Blue, any news????
My hair doesn't shed. However I'm noticing my tight temple/hairline starting to recede more and more.
I'm actually considering buying some RU and giving that a shot (even though I hate the idea... I'm sure for some reason I will have heart problems on it, and I don't want to reduce T longterm.
I really don't want to get on RU.
Let's hear what you got, for hairline????
She's told me the exact supplements I need to take so I'm going to give them a go and see if the shedding stops. Selenium and iodine deficiencys can cause hairloss and so can gut flora so hopefully they may work. To get my ph back to normal she said a teaspoon of baking soda with each glass of water will work fine.
Oh Yeh also I was low in b6 too
She checked everything as in vitamins minerals organ health and food allergies. Cost 50 for the test but I feel it's worth it now I know the main things that are wrong.
She's told me the exact supplements I need to take so I'm going to give them a go and see if the shedding stops. Selenium and iodine deficiencys can cause hairloss and so can gut flora so hopefully they may work. To get my ph back to normal she said a teaspoon of baking soda with each glass of water will work fine.
Oh Yeh also I was low in b6 too
She checked everything as in vitamins minerals organ health and food allergies. Cost 50 for the test but I feel it's worth it now I know the main things that are wrong.
Interesting stuff. What are these exact supplements that you need to take?
Status here: No results from the PRP treatment so far, however it would also be too early for any signs on that now.
Ok guys I got the results of my hair analysis back
I'm deficient in selenium and iodine
Liver needs detoxification and balancing
Gut flora needs balancing
Immune system needs strengthening
Ph in my body is too acid
Interesting.
Please make sure the baking soda you're using is aluminum free.
I have taken baking soda in the past (pre-workout, and definitely not religiously, but it is good stuff).
Blue, please tell us the exact dosages you're taking so I can get on the same exact regime as you. How many teaspoons of baking soda per day???
I have pretty much everything ready to go. I do have Lugol's iodine 2.5% that has just been sitting unopened in the pill box for months. Selenium, etc. For liver detox I would use Siliphos (more bio-available form of milk thistle).
Blue, do you know what the exact PH of your body was/is when she checked? HOW deficient in selenium and iodine were/are you?
I understand that selenium is super important but hair but I would expect Iodine deficiency to have a greater impact hair-wise.
Your thyroid levels were checked awhile ago and were fine right? Was curious if B5 megadose messed up thyroid. Perhaps it doesn't mess up thyroid per se but interferes majorly with iodine ? who knows.
I would expect the alkalinity not to affect hair TOO much considering there are some super out of shape, disgusting people, who eat processed foods 24/7 and whatnot and they have perfect hairlines.. lol, but hey what do I know. (I'm just thinking out loud here, not making any claims either way).
FYI to everyone, please check out these vids:
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This should be helpful to anyone wanting to regrow hair at the hairline/temples. I have just started dermarolling last night and will keep you all posted. I urge anyone else to try it out too so we can asses efficacy. It's certainly worth a shot and has some decent science behind it.
She just said to take half a tea spoon of baking soda with each glass of water. I'm slightly acidic so not too bad. I'll taking the baking soda everyday for a couple of weeks should make a difference.
I am moderately deficient in both iodine and selenium I wasn't in the red.
She just said to take half a tea spoon of baking soda with each glass of water. I'm slightly acidic so not too bad. I'll taking the baking soda everyday for a couple of weeks should make a difference.
I am moderately deficient in both iodine and selenium I wasn't in the red.
So basically, we still need to keep searching.
I have a lot of faith in this dermarolling for hairline. The science behind it is fairly straight forward and sound, at least on paper, and there have been some success stories. I took before pics, and will take new pics each month.
Are you gonna go ahead with the AHK/GHK peptides once you source them, Blue?
First I'm guna try the supplements and try and get my body back to normal and see what happens if I'm still shedding after I've taken them then we know it's none of those causing it. After that yes I will try the ghk and see what happens.
From other hairloss posts I've read in some cases even being a little bit difficient can and will cause hairloss. Who's knows mabe it is the iodine selenium and b6 causing my hair to fall. Or even bad gut flora. I guess it's just trial and error.