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ah i see, do those negative things not happen for women who take it?
did it stop your acne?
I don't think so, you would have to evaluate that yourself though, I know lots of women use it for breast enlargement, and it made my acne quite mild, I'm sure it would have completely stopped my acne had I taken it longer, I was only on it for 3 weeks the first time and 2 the second. If your acne isn't hormonal it won't have any effect 
I can barely comprehend that I might be able to stop both acne and hair loss lol, i'm sure it wont work, scared to try it in case all hell breaks lose. Interesting though. So when you were on it what happened, you lost no hair in the shower?? And what kind of acne did you have? Sorry to grill you, i'm desperado xx
I can barely comprehend that I might be able to stop both acne and hair loss lol, i'm sure it wont work, scared to try it in case all hell breaks lose. Interesting though. So when you were on it what happened, you lost no hair in the shower?? And what kind of acne did you have? Sorry to grill you, i'm desperado xx
Right, I didn't lose any hair, my hair also thickened. I'd say moderate / severe (4-6) non cystic per day ? Now i'm currently at 0-2 per day. From my understanding, its fairly safe for women, it increases estrogen and interferes with testosterone.
Saw palmetto really fucked me up when I was on it. Awful brain fog, crazy high sex drive with watery semen and tiredness. That's the reason I don't think I will ever take propecia.Seriously considering getting a hair transplant in the next year or so though, and then hopefully in the next 2-3 years they have that stem cell treatment available in Japan.
I'm no expert on hair loss, but to give you my 2 cents: saw palmetto is not worth taking for just hair loss. You're better off taking biotin, even though it can make acne worse & also it needs to be taken in an absorbable form. Saw palmetto might help a bit (emphasis on might & a bit) with hair loss & texture, but it can cause other hormonal issues such as estrogen increase. In my experience, it does not cause body odor, but can cause worse issues than that!
I would recommend inositol instead, it can help a bit with hair loss, but of course don't expect any drastic results quickly - the hair growth cycle is much slower than other cycles (e.g. facial hair etc).
Some things to consider:
- Avoid chemically-loaded shampoos & conditioners & styling products. Use the minimum if you must. I know it's easier said than done, but think of all the chemicals that get directly absorbed into your bloodstream through the head. I recommend Rahua shampoo & conditioner - you can find it in both the US and Europe, and perhaps other continents as well. It helped my hair a lot. My second favorite brand would be Shea Organics, but now that I discovered Rahua I'm not going back. Dr. Organic also has some decent products and it's less pricey.
-Along with a healthy diet, I started using Kerastase Specifique Stimuliste, which I understand has some chemicals in it but according to my research it's one of the mildest (toxically)products on the market. So far I'm pleased with it, but again it's no miracle worker.
- Try not to wash your hair every day, especially if you are prone to hair loss.
 
Saw palmetto really fucked me up when I was on it. Awful brain fog, crazy high sex drive with watery semen and tiredness. That's the reason I don't think I will ever take propecia.Seriously considering getting a hair transplant in the next year or so though, and then hopefully in the next 2-3 years they have that stem cell treatment available in Japan.
 
I am also considering a hair transplant. But if there is a chance that stem cell treatment will be available in 2-3 years, then ill definitely wait. (if they solve the male pattern baldness problem, I really hope the cure works on us too)
wishclean this isn't something that can be resolved by minor things like organic shampoos (already switched years ago) or biotin, the folks on this thread have chronic chronic hair loss from B5 overdose, myself included. It's been 9 months.I doubt anything will ever change it, but I might give saw palmetto a go, i'm kinda terrified tbh 
but desperate times..
I've been researching saw palmetto very intensely and it seems that you are one of only two women online to report bad side effects, (p.s were these side effects reversible?) the rest of side effects mentioned on the internet are from men. The supplement you mentioned has only one review on here, whereas saw palmetto has over 30. And the few posts about it include posts about side effects. I'm just losing it trying to find a frickin solution because everything has some doom causing side to it. Maybe i'll just rip my face and scalp off, would be an easier solution than all this trauma lol.
I'm not trying to minimize the issue of hairloss, but why not make minor changes as well as drastic ones? You don't have anything to lose at this point. I suggest looking up the dermatologists who prescribe B5 as an acne treatment (there was one who publicized his research, I'm sure you can find him if you google it) and ask them what to do in case of hairloss. I'm sure they have encountered it in some patients, and could give you some suggestions.
There was topical saw palmetto, but again, I do not recommend it for hair loss. It could cause other issues and then you'll have those to deal with on top of the hairloss.
Thought this check list was interesting: http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/autoimmune-checklist.htm
Thought this check list was interesting: http://www.thyroid-info.com/articles/autoimmune-checklist.htm
Most of my symptoms lead toward hashimotos hypothyroidism
The fact that mr bushido's hair loss halted when on saw palmetto, even if he had to stop taking it, suggests its a DHT issue doesn't it, as saw palmetto inhibits DHT. Maybe look in to other DHT blockers? I just started saw palmetto, i'm completely cacking myself because i'm blindly playing with hormones. This wont end well, but i'm desperate
It's strange because the doc said my thyroid was ok maybe it was the wrong test.
That's weird because you have to get a multitude of thyroid tests performed before they can be sure of anything.
The fact that mr bushido's hair loss halted when on saw palmetto, even if he had to stop taking it, suggests its a DHT issue doesn't it, as saw palmetto inhibits DHT. Maybe look in to other DHT blockers? I just started saw palmetto, i'm completely cacking myself because i'm blindly playing with hormones. This wont end well, but i'm desperate
There are many factors that can increase scalp DHT, for example : hypothyroidism increases the conversion of testosterone to DHT in your scalp, which causes hair loss. Scalp issues are not so trivial, just because DHT inhibitors work does not mean that nothing else will.
whats a prp?
Do you guys think that going on Accutane would exacerbate our hair loss?
Google 'prp hair loss' and you will find it. It's not anything to expect miracles from, but going to give it a go.
I have been on accutane for the past 7 months, and it hasn't changed anything for my hair loss.
really Churchill? that is very comforting, is Accutane working for you?
Having said that I did read that its usually when Accutane stops that the hair loss starts
Hi! I've been off accutane for over a year now, and I did not experience any hairloss. I asked my hairdresser if she noticed a difference in the quality of my hair, and she said it was definitely a bit dryer (as was my scalp) but the density of my hair around my crown remains the same. Now, while I was on accutane I noticed that my hair broke a little bit more easily, but again I attribute this to the dryness of my scalp (no oils). I washed my hair once every 10 days or so, and this helped mitigate the problem. Now, my hair is completely back to how it was pre-accutane. Additionally, I have very thin hair (and not very much of it), so I would definitely notice if my hair was falling out more than usual. I have always been a "shedder", but if my hair was shedding more than it was growing, it would be very noticeable in my case.
Thanks megatree for sharing, I really wanna do Accutane but I am just too scared. Everyone react differently as you know and I have terrible luck when it comes to side effects from just about anything. Two people have told me awful stories of Accutane including having the joint quality of an 80 year old and one guy who lost the feeling in his penis for ten years. Not to mention the numerous hair loss stories. It sucks as I know Accutane is the cure :'( grr.
Thanks megatree for sharing, I really wanna do Accutane but I am just too scared. Everyone react differently as you know and I have terrible luck when it comes to side effects from just about anything. Two people have told me awful stories of Accutane including having the joint quality of an 80 year old and one guy who lost the feeling in his penis for ten years. Not to mention the numerous hair loss stories. It sucks as I know Accutane is the cure :'( grr.
I understand, I felt the same way before finally making the decision to start. I did as much research for medical studies that I could, spoke to all of my doctors (not just my derm), and I tried to look for logs, journals, videos etc. that presented a neutral discussion of the experience with accutane and that were somewhat verifiable. Knowledge is power - and being as informed as possible will help you feel comfortable with any decision you make, either way.