Hello everyone. Just want to jump in and hopefully help.

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Iodine displaces bromide and leaves if floating around in your system.

 

I am getting my info from here: http://breastcancerchoices.org/

And here: http://curezone.com/...p?a=13,281,2962

Take it for what you will. Many people disagree with what you said. Iodine does displace the other halogens when you take it in extremely large amounts, according to the links.

http://curezone.com/faq/q.asp?a=13,281,2962&q=558

I am getting my info from here: http://breastcancerchoices.org/

And here: http://curezone.com/...p?a=13,281,2962

Take it for what you will. Many people disagree with what you said. Iodine does displace the other halogens when you take it in extremely large amounts, according to the links.

http://curezone.com/...,281,2962&q=558

 

First I am really shocked how people believe what they read on the internet and are experimenting with theyr health.

Second I want you guys to be 100% informed about which minerals/vitamins your body needs, simply by testing those levels in it.

And third, no offense, but those nonsense articles you use to defend your ignorance is just.. funny

As I explained, there is no such thing as iodine to replace halogen above it's group (group order reactivity).

One more thing, from the water you drink, to the food you eat and the air you breathe, there is NO way that you can avoid those elements (F, Cl, Br). If iodine was displacing them via detox, you should have a lifetime of detox(think).

Iodine may kill some bacteria and fungi, prbbly the reason for your detox.

I see you like to read. Thats good, but let us give you someting that has actually science in it - then believe what you want. Religion is private right to all.

http://schoolnet.gov.mt/mercieca/chemistry/notes/form%204/11%20The%20Halogens.pdf - just read displacement of halogen by another

http://curezone.org/forums/fm.asp?i=1591023 - some guy tries to explain the same thing

- video of halogens order activity

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halogen#History_and_etymology

I wont reply and discuss this further more, because you need some years of study before we can argue.

Just trying to help

Greetings

You're right that I'm probably ignorant. I mean, how do you know what to believe? Some of us weren't lucky enough to be able to go to school and get an education, you know? At times all I've had is the internet, as worthless as a resource as that may seem. With the internet, you have to sort through the bullshit and it can be very hard to know truth from bullshit, especially when you're desperate and scared over your failing health. All I'm going off is what I've read and what I've been taught by the people in the iodine forums (who were trying to help me with my health problems at the time).

But honestly, I'd rather believe you. It would make me feel better. I've had my doubts about this for a long time but when you bring it up on the forums (the curezone forums are literally the only place I know of to discuss this) people just tell you over and over and over again that iodine is good, and that we all should be taking 100+ mgs of it a day. Those people haven't been able to help me with the fact that iodine makes me feel like I'm constantly detoxing something awful no matter how much I take or for how long.

So I'd like to believe that they are wrong. I've felt sad and guilty (stupid as that may seem) for years now over my inability to take iodine without horrible symptoms. All the other people on the forums go on and on about how great it makes them feel.

I've also had the same questions about how iodine could displace the other halogens but I've never gotten a straight answer. They just say that if you take massive amounts of it, it displaces them. The last time I did that I got so sick my hair was falling out, so I don't know. I'd like to take iodine in small amounts again one day and see what happens because for a time, it made me feel really good. But I'm wary.

Hey. I understand that when people are hopeless they do extreme things. I've done it my self (and am sorry now). This has nothing to do with school. You can't know everyting, nobody can! You just need to contact specialists of the specific area. (specially when it comes for personal health)

All those people that are sharing information about their illness, regimes, lifestyle, medications is good, BUT you are not them and they are not you!

Some may really help you, as some may really harm you.

Now back on topic. Iodine is essential element for the structures of thyriod hormones -triiodothyronine (T₃), thyroxine (T₄) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyroid#Physiology

When there is iodine deficiency those hormones are low produced - Hypothyroidism.In kids it's called creatism, adult can develop Hashimoto

And really important thing - once you have Hypothyroidism - when you damage the hormone production,taking excess of iodine ain't gonna help, simply because iodine is PART of structure and not THE hormone itself.Other medications that include hormone replacement are needed. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thyroid#Disorders

Taking daily iodized salt is pretty safe from that happening. This is the reason why most country governments imposed it.

p.s

No matter of the amount, we can have 1 ml of HBr (hydrogen bromide) and add 1000000 ml iodine it will never replace the bromine. But flourine, chlorine or bromine will for sure displace the iodine.

And yes, iodine is not as toxic as others but REMEMBER- many things can be toxic if they are overdosed (even vitamins)

Good luck

Is there no way to displace those other halogens, then?

Is there no way to displace those other halogens, then?

 

I guess you mean flourine and bromine. They are only halogens that are not essential for human body (and astatine of course, tho flourine is little needed for strong bones), BUT they are really deadly in excess so Im sure you don't have more than any other do (or you will not read this:) Human body is high organism- it can recover and deal wtih most of those non-needed stuff.

http://en.wikipedia....tal_composition - read this / average percents of elements and health role in our bodies/

Life uses elements to create its living matter (biochemistry)

A pure element can have different properties then the same element in a specific molecule.

Example: Chlorine gas is deadly. The chloride ion in table salt NaCl is essential mineral. We talk about different properies that Na+Cl have together.

Example: Sulfur as in sulfuric acid is dangerous. Sulfur is in structure of some essential aminoacids.

There are 100000000000000+++++ substances which have different properties and can have repeating elements in their structures, only their bonding and quantity is different, which leads to their different biological (and not only) effects.

Usually most dangerous substances are those with higher reactivity or/and molecules with unpaired electrons also known as free radicals.

way off topic sorry

Other Threads on iodine or trying to flush out/avoid flouride:

Also, These articles say that iodine does protect against flouride toxicity:

http://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/iodine-protects-against-fluoride-toxicity

 

Iodine intake immediately increases the excretion of bromide, fluoride, and some heavy metals including mercury and lead. Bromide and fluoride are not removed by any other chelator or detoxifying technique.

Dr. Kenezy Gyula Korhaz states that iodine chelates heavy metals such as mercury, lead, cadmium, aluminum, and halogens such as fluoride and bromide, thus decreasing their iodine-inhibiting effects,[2] especially of the halogens. Iodine has the highest atomic weight of all the common halogens (126.9). Iodine is the only option when it comes to removing these toxic haloids from the thyroid and even the pineal gland where fluoride concentrates, especially when there is a deficiency of iodine in the body.

I have been taking kelp tablets with 225 mcg of iodine, and I think it does not cause acne for me (not sure) -been taking kelp tablets for about 2 months

Regarding sweating, I do sweat a lot, just by walking I am sometimes literally drench with sweat -- I am not sure if this is because I am fat or just genetics since my dad use to sweat a lot just by doing simple activities. I envy people who barely sweat when doing things

I've taken 1000mcg of iodine now daily for four days, and from practically clear I went to many many breakouts in that time! I hope this passes soon. I'm planning on cutting down to around 400mcg after a couple more days anyway, but I have non-skin-related reasons to continue with iodine supplementation for the unforeseeable future so if it causes proper acne, it's going to suck.

Also, how essential is taking selenium/other vitamins at the same time? I hope it's enough to eat brazil nuts fairly often.

I've taken 1000mcg of iodine now daily for four days, and from practically clear I went to many many breakouts in that time! I hope this passes soon. I'm planning on cutting down to around 400mcg after a couple more days anyway, but I have non-skin-related reasons to continue with iodine supplementation for the unforeseeable future so if it causes proper acne, it's going to suck.

Also, how essential is taking selenium/other vitamins at the same time? I hope it's enough to eat brazil nuts fairly often.

Is that info not in earlier posts in this thread? Or in the other related threads that I posted the links to? I'd have to reread it all to refresh my memory. I haven't thought about this in a while.

Are you trying to flush out flouride? Really, I'd go ahead and cut back if it's causing a break out. Also, note that the amount of selenium in a brazil nut varies greatly. You can easily get too much selenium from them.

I've taken 1000mcg of iodine now daily for four days, and from practically clear I went to many many breakouts in that time! I hope this passes soon. I'm planning on cutting down to around 400mcg after a couple more days anyway, but I have non-skin-related reasons to continue with iodine supplementation for the unforeseeable future so if it causes proper acne, it's going to suck.

Also, how essential is taking selenium/other vitamins at the same time? I hope it's enough to eat brazil nuts fairly often.

Is that info not in earlier posts in this thread? Or in the other related threads that I posted the links to? I'd have to reread it all to refresh my memory. I haven't thought about this in a while.

Are you trying to flush out flouride? Really, I'd go ahead and cut back if it's causing a break out. Also, note that the amount of selenium in a brazil nut varies greatly. You can easily get too much selenium from them.

Thanks for your help. I hadn't read the full thread either and am trying to keep brazil nuts at a very moderate level to avoid getting too much selenium.

I'm not trying to flush out fluoride, I'm only trying to correct any iodine deficiency I may have as quickly as possible. It's probably a little bit stupid, but I feel like I'm "in a hurry" to do this since we're expecting and I only just now read that sufficient iodine levels (and thyroid hormone levels) are very important at this stage. No one has mentioned this in my country, but the US for example recommends iodine supplementation of at least 250 mcg per day. So I've now been taking 1000mcg a day for a week, which is a little on the high side (although still below the official maximum safe dose). I'd like to cut down to around 400-500mcg soon. I had my thyroid values tested and even though they were still normal, I was very close to being subclinically hypothyroid (TSH 2.4, T4f 14), so I'm still somewhat concerned about my iodine/thyroid levels.

My breakouts have been getting better, so perhaps this reaction was just a passing phase.

Edit: I've decided to cut down on iodine from now on, maybe to 300-400 mcg or lower. I don't want to take any risks in case even 1000 mcg is excessive.

So, several weeks ago I began increasing my iodine intake by adding kelp flakes to my food. At the beginning, I did the salt flush thing a few times. 4 or so. Last week I got a bottle of lugols and began taking that. I also started drinking ultra purified water that removes nearly all flouride a couple of days ago. A couple of days ago, I got a pimple on my face with another one forming yesterday. I had one last week on my chin as well. I am going to reduce the amount of iodine and see what happens.

The only changes to my energy I've noticed lately is that I am so ready to go to sleep at night and much earlier. A few times I've been barely able to keep my eyes open at 8:30 pm when I still need to walk the dog.

I have read seaweed causes acne for some. Nelson Novick I think wrote about it.

Excessive iodine can cause hyperthyroidism. Supplementing with iodine can help if you have hypothyroidism, but if you have hyper- then it will make things worse.

Ive started supplementing with Kelp tablets which has 200mcg iodine it it.

I read that after finishing the BCP your thyroid gets all out of whack because you are trying to produce natural hormones, and that iodine helps support thyroid by helping it function.

Anyone - If you have gone off the BCP within the last year and have irregular periods (or none at all) and also have greasy skin and acne give this a shot.