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(@elbee)

Posted : 09/08/2020 2:56 pm

Shoober, what tests did your doc use to diagnose HSV?

I looked at images from a google search of hsv facial lesions and it's kinda sorta right. I don't get any blister type issue, but in the images, the white plugs are there.

Fingers crossed for you, thanks for the post.

Thanks to all who are posting.

I was on spironolactone for more than a year several years back while I was having these lesions with no change better or worse.

I have wondered about sun damage. I am caucasian and old enough that we never used sunscreen when I was young.

I could be vitamin deficient and for the last month or so have ramped up my supplements. I do think my skin is healing faster and less secondary infections, but so far the plugs keep coming. I would not say I have been deficient for the last 10 years, so I think it contributes but is maybe not the cause.

 

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Posted : 09/08/2020 4:26 pm

https://www.dermnetnz.org/topics/phrynoderma

Teacult,

If you know youre vitamin A deficient but avoid fats because you cant convert. Can you just take strait retinol palmitate supplement? Seems like you know Vit A defiency causes hyperkeratoticplaques in the pores. Someone earlier mention EFA deficiency so I researched and above is the skin disordered caused by that- Phrynoderma. I also watched Indian doctor speak about thatdisorder the treatment was Vit A palmitate supplement not beta and albenza and breaking open the Vit A gel cap and applyig directly to lesion, as well as correcting diet.

 

Elbee, thatsuseful site, new to me, thank you!

 

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Posted : 09/10/2020 8:28 am

 

On 9/8/2020 at 3:56 PM, Elbee said:

Shoober, what tests did your doc use to diagnose HSV?

The Dr. did not run any test (I would like this done for 100% confirmation)  I'm not sure if this was because I was already taking the antiviral & if that would compromise the test, or if they were just confident in their diagnosis from examination and photos. I'd say the anti viral has helped a lot at this point. I did have lots of side effects with the script. 

Here's some progression of this latest outbreak after being on an antiviral for 11 days. Photos are from the past week/2 weeks in reverse order (from today at its most healed point)

"The valacyclovir has helped a lot in finally healing the lesion I've had for almost 2 months. I was taking 1g 3x a day for 7 days, currently just 1g a day. The plugs are mostly ridded of (for now & hopefully forever) as far as I can tell. There may be one deeply rooted plug hanging around but no more open wound on my chin. If you haven't tried this, ask your doctor for an antiviral, hopefully it continues to help me. If you cannot get to a doctor I would try taking Lysine tablets maybe with a Lysine topical too.I posted this elsewhere and copied. 

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Posted : 09/11/2020 6:50 pm

Hi everyone,

i have been dealing with this issue for about 5 years now. I just recently tried a sulfur ointment after reading some articles and it helped immediately. It doesnt smell great, but I will gladly deal with the smell if it helps! Your skin will feel dry and likely flake, but the swelling will go down and eventually start to clear.

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Posted : 09/13/2020 6:58 pm

I just wanted to confirm with a photo that I am on the correct blog???? 

I am 28 year old healthy, active female. I NEVER had skin trouble, acne, or anything. About 3 years ago, I starting getting these bumps on my chin and I literally get them NOWHERE else, just my chin. It seems I never just get one, when they come, they come in twos or threes and they will not heal until the white stretchy plug is gone. If I let them heal, they will heal, but you can still see the white plug underneath the layer of skin on top. Today, I was able to get a great picture of what they look like before I pluck out the white plug. I just wanted to confirm that I™m the photo is the same stuff you all are dealing with?

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Posted : 09/17/2020 1:14 pm

I know what it is .

Its malassezia fungus  in the skin . I have the same thing. I've had them everywhere face , back , legs ,arms etc. 

things to look up and help beat this is:

What kills malassezia fungus? 

malassezia fungus reproduction. 

Im going to use Apple cider vinegar  : apple cider vinegar is known to destroy the malassezia fungus. It not just eliminates the fungus but also restores the pH balance. You can water it down and drink it, soak in the tub in it and apply it to sores.

 Cream with urea in high concentration (20% or more) CeraVe Psoriasis Cleanser, Medicated Formula with Salicylic Acid for the face , they also have body wash .Salinas wrote about this here is his link  https://www.acne.org/urea-and-its-role-in-the-skin.html

I'm going to find a yeast cleanse also: Solaray, Yeast-Cleanse, 90 VegCaps

I've been putting lavender oil on the open sores and it has reduced the malassezia bumps and plugs .  You can get it at the dollar stores

Lavender essential oil is frequently used in traditional medicine [6] and its impact on reducing the amount of Candida albicans fungus 

Im going to change my diet so i dont feed the fungus . Sadly bye bye coffee creamer and things that have yeast in it breads etc.

But this is what we have . Unfortunately pulling the plugs spreads the fungus . If you have to pull the plug use apple cider vinegar to clean the area and follow with lavender oil.  I hope this helps and I will post before and after pictures . It can take up to a year to fully get rid of the overgrowth . 

The pic is day 2 of just Lavender oil. But I know I'm going to have to treat my whole self diet etc because it live not just on the skin but in it also.

Update day 3: take the little bottle of lavender oil with me everywhere. If my spots get itchy I apply it, if I feel like I want to pick at my face , I apply it . It does feel like these little plugs want to escape my pores .they have come to the surface of my skin. I washed my face in a hot shower and the are coming out without trying. (Wash cloth) . Posted more pics.both sides of my face. Will update again tomorrow.Polish_20200918_223700167.jpg.d467cb13d45bb0a9508de648cf6be3f3.jpgPolish_20200918_223823213.jpg.b12467638984e70d62bcf467075a0455.jpg

 

Update day 4 . The spots I have are healing nicely. Almost healed . Now I have to work on the inside. Or they will be back. So after this weekend of seeing how just Lavender oil. I'm going to start drinking watered down Apple cider vinegar. And more water less coffee. And we will see how that goes . Wish me luck..added a few more pics.

 

 

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I hope you all make a speedy recovery . 

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Posted : 09/20/2020 9:30 am

You all are amazing for sharing!! Ive had this for years!!! Derm just looks at me like I have 3 heads when I try to describe what is going on. They dismiss as cystic acne. I have tried to google this a thousand times and never got an accurate search result. So glad Im not the only one with this. So, Im not crazy!!! Im going to try some of the suggestions listed. THANK YOU!!

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(@tiff-tiff)

Posted : 09/20/2020 7:34 pm

Ive had this for years and I think I just found the solution! Urea cream at higher percentages is a keratolytic and dissolves and unhooks those white plugs (keratin) from your face or body. Its like magic and you will see improvement the same day. Be careful if you use higher amounts on the face and watch out for irritation and DO NOT use if you have rosacea. If the keratin plugs itch you could have an infection also and use anti fungal cream along with the higher urea cream to combat the infection. Good Luck!

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(@elbee)

Posted : 09/21/2020 4:58 pm

21 hours ago, Tiff tiff said:

Ive had this for years and I think I just found the solution! Urea cream at higher percentages is a keratolytic and dissolves and unhooks those white plugs (keratin) from your face or body. Its like magic and you will see improvement the same day. Be careful if you use higher amounts on the face and watch out for irritation and DO NOT use if you have rosacea. If the keratin plugs itch you could have an infection also and use anti fungal cream along with the higher urea cream to combat the infection. Good Luck!

That is great to hear. Can you share what product you have been using? Thx

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Posted : 09/22/2020 6:48 am

Oh man, I've had the same issue for about 5years, tried so many things, antibiotics, tretinoin, accutane, steroid creams...

Dermatologist were completely and utterly useless, barely looked at me and labeled me a picker. Even a year of accutane only slightly improved my situation. Wasgonna do a second course, because all in all accutane was the only thing that did slightly work...

Came across this thread a while back, kinda got the general idea that it could be fungal, tried lamisil, tinactin, tea tree oil, vinegar. They slightly helped, but not to the point that my skin would be problem-free. Until about a monthago, I started putting vichy anti dandruff shampoo on my problem areas (face, sholders, chest mostly). I take a generous amount, lightly foam it and put it on my skin. Leave to dry for a good while, an hour, it needs time. Once I left it on my face overnight it really dried it, to the point of peeling, but after 3 days it was done peeling and the skin underneath was near-perfect. Now I just leave it for half an hour to an hour, heavilymoisturizing the next day also did not cause an issue for me.

I'm not exactly sure what they put in this stuff, but it is anti-fungal since dandruff is fungus, and for me it works much better than any other anti-fungal creams I tried. It is quite possible any anti-dandruff shampoo would have worked for me, but gonna continue using this one, since the results so far have been amazing.

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Posted : 09/22/2020 10:23 am

  • Vichy Dercos Anti-Dandruff Shampoo contains two active ingredients:selenium disulfide and salicylic acid. Selenium disulfide is a powerful dermatological agent that removes dandruff after the first week of using the shampoo.
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(@looop887)

Posted : 09/23/2020 3:00 pm

It is discoid lupus. DLE.My biopsy came back.Its NOT fungus. The malassezia fungus craze all overthe internet is a lot of pseudoscience. No doubt fungus/bacteria play a role in acne and some other lesions, but this isnt that.The white plugs are due to follicular keratosis.

I have found salicylic acid to be a nice addition to any routine. It helps with the plugs. But it doesnt cure it. Im working with my doc to see if we can treat it with prescriptiontopicals. Ill report back. First up is a strongtopical steroid.

Stop picking at it. Dont put irritating oils and topicals on it.Youll want to get in with a doctor. The only treatments with a chance of working are prescription only. Ido epsom salt soaks (10 minutes then rinse off)and usesalicylic acid, as both seem to help redness and prevent infection. But they arent cures.

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Posted : 09/23/2020 6:33 pm

@Looop887 what tests did the doctor do to find out about DLE? Did you go to the complex medial dermatologist? One thing I read is that the disease DLE is that sun can make it worse. Id love to know your experience with it and how your doctors visit went.

 

For my case I think my Microbiome got messed up. I have eczema and was using oils to try and help it not knowing that I was feeding the yeast. I think for me the white plugs are keratin but the underlying cause for somepeople is from fungus. The keratin plugs can bethe bodies response to the fungus. Head over to [removed] to get all the technical jargon or the aussiescientist & Salinasfrom this thread and others posted a lot of helpful information.

Urea (sometimes it has salicylic acid in it)- helps remove white plugs

antifungal cream- helps control the fungus

diluted apple cider vinegar- as a toner helps fungus and bacteria

sulfur and dandruff shampoo- helps control fungus

azeliac acid- helps clean out pores

DO NOT USE OILS- they feed the yeast

Antibiotics kill bacteria letting the yeast take over.

Try not to pick and keep it clean to avoid getting a bacteria infection on top of it.

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Posted : 09/24/2020 8:59 am

@Tiff tiffyou need to have a skin punch biopsy as bloodwork can sometimes be normal (which is actually a good thingmeans its just in your skin).

Simpleskincarescience and those people you mentioned arent doctors. They read a bunch of published studies (sometimes with 20-30 participants) and blog about what they read on the internet. Stop listening to them. What they do is not science and definitely not medicine.

The spots result from immune system dysregulation. The follicular hyperkeratosis is one by-product of this. I believe a lot of people touch/pick more than they admit/realize and end up with secondary fungal/bacterial infections.

 

Stop picking at it. Let it get to its natural state and go to a medical dermatologist. Get a biopsy. If the doc doesnt listen, go to a new one. Ive found young doctors are much better and much more concerned with getting a definitive diagnosis than older ones.

 

Once you have a diagnosis, you can get the prescriptions necessary to put it into remission.

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Posted : 09/24/2020 6:53 pm

In looking at discoid lupus, I came across a fererence to "carpet tack scale" or " tin tack sign."

Google that and look at the images!

So with a quick lookup, carpet tack scale is a sign of discoid lupus and seborrheic dermatitis.

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Posted : 09/25/2020 2:26 pm

On 1/1/2019 at 12:40 AM, Saiyama said:

I have the things all over. Nothing has worked. I have had them for the past three years and they have made my life a living hell. I had stop researching because muprocin seemed to be working but it stopped. They came back wit a vengence. I saw on another site that a person used nystatin, a sulfur face wash, and cetaphil as a moisturizer. Another's was using desitin ointment. I havent tried these yet. But will be shortly. One question, is it a possibility that this could be caused by pets in the household?

 

On 1/1/2019 at 12:40 AM, Saiyama said:

I have the things all over. Nothing has worked. I have had them for the past three years and they have made my life a living hell. I had stop researching because muprocin seemed to be working but it stopped. They came back wit a vengence. I saw on another site that a person used nystatin, a sulfur face wash, and cetaphil as a moisturizer. Another's was using desitin ointment. I havent tried these yet. But will be shortly. One question, is it a possibility that this could be caused by pets in the household?

No..I have same exact issues & even more... finally think I know what it is.. look up demodex parasites which are mites...we all have them 2 different kinds on humans...but they cause problems when we have large quantities of them... they reside in your hair follicles for the sebaceous glands...they feed off of sebum, hormones, etc.. and corticosteroids can make them worse! Mine have even caused inflammation in various different parts of my body...also... there is another differential rosacea type condition.. it's demodex rosacea..in this kind of rosacea it's not due to oily skin/sebum it's opposite...and sounds like us who suffer from these demodex causing symptoms could have democdosis.. which is caused by them. Just look up demodex parasite on humans, demodex rosacea & democdosis. The white plugs I believe are actually the parasites..as they are small hard to see..can be clearly seen better under a microscope. When you pull them out that's why I believe the lesions heal bc you took out the parasites.

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Posted : 09/27/2020 1:28 am

On 9/25/2020 at 3:26 PM, Amanda.holtz2013 said:

 

No..I have same exact issues & even more... finally think I know what it is.. look up demodex parasites which are mites...we all have them 2 different kinds on humans...but they cause problems when we have large quantities of them... they reside in your hair follicles for the sebaceous glands...they feed off of sebum, hormones, etc.. and corticosteroids can make them worse! Mine have even caused inflammation in various different parts of my body...also... there is another differential rosacea type condition.. it's demodex rosacea..in this kind of rosacea it's not due to oily skin/sebum it's opposite...and sounds like us who suffer from these demodex causing symptoms could have democdosis.. which is caused by them. Just look up demodex parasite on humans, demodex rosacea & democdosis. The white plugs I believe are actually the parasites..as they are small hard to see..can be clearly seen better under a microscope. When you pull them out that's why I believe the lesions heal bc you took out the parasites.

The white plugs are not actual parasites. Theyre keratin built upin the pore linings.

 

A lot of inflammatory conditions can cause follicular keratosis. Other noticeable symptoms in my DLE case (in addition to the white plugs): redness/scaling, thickened/hyperkeratinized skin, NOT itchy, hair loss in area, occurred in area with previous frequent sun exposure, easily infected if touched/picked, sometimes seemed to get better but always returned.

 

But other conditions besides DLE can cause this white plugging.

 

Ill keep spamming the thread bc I want to save people from the same horrible fate I suffered for years. If you have these recurring lesions: dont pick/touch... get a punch biopsy. It is the only way to get realanswers and a real solution.

Dont waste years of your life playing guessing games based on the misinformation of people w/ no medical education speculating on the internet. Leave the lesion/salone, stop putting things on it, stop touching it... and make getting an actual diagnosis from an actual doctor the priority!

Your job is to leave it alone and bring it to the doctor in an unaltered state. Your job is not to figure out what it is and how to treat it.

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Posted : 09/27/2020 6:33 am

So after reading this I am relieved to find an answer and a solution!! My next question once applying antifungal cream and the fungus starts to die do I leave it alone and let it do its own thing, or do I continue to remove the white plugs? Mine itch to no end and i find myself picking and scratching and I feel as if I have made it so much worse and continue to spread it all over my face by picking at it. Also I am not on drugs and my routine has not changed in any way. I have not been sick nor have I taken antibiotics in the last two years. Why did this randomly show up and continue to get worse? Besides the obvious that I was not aware that it was a fungus and I just thought I had really bad white heads and infected hairs. Screenshot_20200924-185631_Gallery.jpg.386bcaf204a81da9423ab394bce2ffb9.jpg

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Posted : 10/13/2020 12:55 pm

On 9/27/2020 at 6:33 AM, Malynn0904 said:

So after reading this I am relieved to find an answer and a solution!! My next question once applying antifungal cream and the fungus starts to die do I leave it alone and let it do its own thing, or do I continue to remove the white plugs? Mine itch to no end and i find myself picking and scratching and I feel as if I have made it so much worse and continue to spread it all over my face by picking at it. Also I am not on drugs and my routine has not changed in any way. I have not been sick nor have I taken antibiotics in the last two years. Why did this randomly show up and continue to get worse? Besides the obvious that I was not aware that it was a fungus and I just thought I had really bad white heads and infected hairs. Screenshot_20200924-185631_Gallery.jpg.386bcaf204a81da9423ab394bce2ffb9.jpg

Don™t pick! I think for a lot of people with this issue it™s scarring/chronic inflammation due to chronic irritation and manipulation or another underlying condition (DLE, seb derm, eczema, etc.). People try too many products on their skin and touch the spots way more than they realize/admit.
 

If you are picking the plugs out of your skin, you are creating scarring. The scars will result in hyperkeratinization that leads to more follicular keratosis aka white plugs. 
 

I was prescribed a strong topical steroid for 2 weeks. Then I was switched to prescription tretinoin at night and also use a CBD balm/salve.

 

First step is getting the inflammation under control. Do not manipulate the plugs or skin at all. Do not put anything on your skin. Don™t put antifungals designed for the feet on your delicate facial skin. Don™t put fragrant essential oils on open wounds. You need a derm to find the cause of your inflammation. Get a punch biopsy. Leaving this untreated or trying to treat it yourself will cause way worse scars.

 

If you™ve been picking, you have scars. I also think for a lot of people this is literally just acne they™re picking at. The picking creates localized folliculitis/inflammation. But when the spots you picked a bunch of ˜plugs˜ out of ˜heal,™ they don™t look and act like fresh, healthy skin. Because they™re not fresh skin. They™re scars now. The plugs will reappear if the pore lining and hair follicle are scarred. In this case, you™ll probably need laser treatments from a derm to get the skin looking how you want it to again. But in the interim a gentle keratolytic and healing routine can help a lot with the redness.

I also recommend anyone with this issue dim their bathroom lights and limit their access to mirrors. Don™t allow yourself to get closer than say 3ft from the mirror. If this is an issue, it could be a sign there™s more to this than just a physical skin condition. 

 

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Posted : 10/28/2020 6:58 pm

So unfortunately I think my theory was correct.

 

I think the initial breakout of white plugs is due to an underlying inflammatory condition, such as DLE, seborrheic dermatitis, or even just something like folliculitis. It doesnt necessarily have to be chronic/systemic.

 

Its important to get this diagnosed properly (if its even still active). I cannot recommend a punch biopsy enough. The scarring is inconsequential compared to the marks these chronic plugs leave behind.

 

However, I think theres a second factor for most. I think people pick at/irritate/burn these lesions (trying so many different active ingredients for fungus, bacteria, demodex, etc.) more than they realize and admit (to themselves and online).

My biopsy showed a lot of scar tissue. I believe people are creating much more trauma than they realize fidgeting with these plugs,and the scarring is what creates a new round of plugs.

Basically,the scarred pores/follicles and hyperkeratinization cause these new white buildups of oil/bacteria/keratinthat cannot break through the damaged/scarred skin and become trapped and potentially inflamed/infected beneath the surface.

While you are in the process of letting time and potentially other treatments (lasers, etc.) heal the scarred skin, I cannot recommend enough De La Cruz 10% Sulfur Ointment. This ointment annihilates the white plugs and surrounding inflammation. It shrinks their size, prevents new ones from forming, and also prevents them from becoming infected/inflamed red bumps. This is the only topical that has ever truly helped this situation for me.

 

But, the plugs will keep reappearing until the scarred skin is regenerated enough (only time and a derm can do this). The plugs dont mean you have fungus and bacteria and parasitesand need to bombard your poor skin with the harshest chemicals available. They are just there because naturally with scarring things get stuck beneath the surface and dont exfoliate properly. Use the sulfur ointment to prevent the plugs from becoming huge/inflamed + focus on treating the scarring. Give it time and it will get better.

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Posted : 11/02/2020 8:55 pm

If you have these lesions:

 

please stop picking at them.

 

removing all of the plugs is NOT what allows healing, as others have said in various posts around the internet.

 

please stop picking at the plugs.

 

repeatedly injuring the skin creates scar tissue that makes the plugs worse in the long runand increases the risk of skin cancer.

 

the cell types that characterize scars can also be hotbeds for skin-cancer growths.

 

please stop picking. You have so much to lose.

 

the scar specialist I saw today said he is relieved that they did not find malignancies in my punch biopsy given how long the skin injury/picking-healing-scarring cycle occurred for me (4 years).

 

See a derm toget a punch biopsy to rule out various conditions, then start getting the scarring treated.

 

When I am able to, I do the sulfur masks. The plugs are basically pimples/clogged pores under the scar. Obviously, picking at these pimples is the least productive thing to do.Find a gentle treatment to manage the pimples.The sulfur ointment helps me a lot. Gentle salicylic acid is an option. A mild, derm-approvedkeratolytic agentthat wont interfere with the scarring treatment is your best bet.

 

it is a horrible, depressing and expensive process. But posts around the internet saying the white plugs are X, Y, Z and necessitate removal/picking and this and that product are dangerous.

 

You do not have parasites.

You do not have demodex.

You do not have fungus.

You do not have staph.

stop diagnosing yourself.

 

stop listening to whackos telling you to put anti-parasitics and essential oils on your open wounds.

 

leave the wounds and plugs alone.

 

see a doctor.

 

get diagnosedif there even is a diagnosis anymore.

 

Start treating the scarring. letting fibrotic/hyperkeratotic tissue hang around is asking for trouble.

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Posted : 11/07/2020 7:04 am

I can certainly empathise with this story.

So many have it worse than me, but I have the same rash of 'pimples' across my lower back with hard plugs that prevent them healing and when removed (if I rub my finger over in the shower they roll out) leaving a divot. Only then will they heal, and generally leave a mark. It first appeared when I was very stressed in 2017 as a rash bumps that absolutely covered my lower back like severe folliculitis. It got better over time, but I have still had 6-10 at any given time ever since.

I have a similar issue on all the pores on my chest/across my breasts, but they are more like filaments that sometimes get inflamed/infected, but won't heal until the enlarged plug i removed.

My mild face acne which is more oil congestion-based is much much better since switching to Rationale skincare, which is doing a good job of balancing my skin ph and encouraging turnover. Side note, but these products transformed skin re more 'regular' facial acne.

About 3 months ago i read this message board and was very interested about the proposal of the plugs being related to Malasezzia or Candida, as I suffer from Seborrheic Dermatitis which is an immune response to the former.

Inspired, i started using my dandruff shampoo that i use to succesfully control the Seb Derm as a wash in the shower on my lower back. I just rub in on, leave it for a bit and then rinse off every time I shower. I know dandruff shampoo might sound very simple compared to the extensive things people have tried, but in the months since it has improved immensely. As they are deep and due to the location i still have red marks where they are healing, but I have had almost no new bumps for the last month or so.

I tried every dandruff shampoo on the market to fix my Seb Derm, and the only one I have found that really controls the Malasezzia is Vichy Dercos, with Salicylic Acid + Selenium Sulfide in it. There are many shampoos with these ingredients, but this one is the only one that worked for me and it immediately makes a huge difference.

The other thing I have been doing is trying to cut back on sugars in my diet which I believe is also helping control the yeast. I no longer regularly eat refined carbs, bread, refined sugar, grains, rice, high sugar fruits (berries etc are ok), starchy carbs (potatoes etc green vege are ok). Just lean meat, fish, eggs, salad, low sugar fruit, green leafy vegetables, good fats. Not only has my skin improved, but i've lost weight, clearer and less foggy headed, sleep better, more energy and lower appetitite (even though eating a lot less), more stable mood and my skin is significantly improving.

These two simple things (the shampoo and cutting food that yeast like out of my diet) has made a big difference for me, and are simple and inexpensive to at least give a try, especially if you're feeling desperate you've got nothing to lose.

Hope that helps someone else too. Sounds simple I know, but sometimes thats whats works and our bodies are amazing at working how they should. I would say - definitely avoid taking antibiotics as this will only make the situation worse.

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Posted : 11/07/2020 7:25 am

On 9/22/2020 at 5:48 PM, shellllly3553 said:

Oh man, I've had the same issue for about 5years, tried so many things, antibiotics, tretinoin, accutane, steroid creams...

Dermatologist were completely and utterly useless, barely looked at me and labeled me a picker. Even a year of accutane only slightly improved my situation. Wasgonna do a second course, because all in all accutane was the only thing that did slightly work...

Came across this thread a while back, kinda got the general idea that it could be fungal, tried lamisil, tinactin, tea tree oil, vinegar. They slightly helped, but not to the point that my skin would be problem-free. Until about a monthago, I started putting vichy anti dandruff shampoo on my problem areas (face, sholders, chest mostly). I take a generous amount, lightly foam it and put it on my skin. Leave to dry for a good while, an hour, it needs time. Once I left it on my face overnight it really dried it, to the point of peeling, but after 3 days it was done peeling and the skin underneath was near-perfect. Now I just leave it for half an hour to an hour, heavilymoisturizing the next day also did not cause an issue for me.

I'm not exactly sure what they put in this stuff, but it is anti-fungal since dandruff is fungus, and for me it works much better than any other anti-fungal creams I tried. It is quite possible any anti-dandruff shampoo would have worked for me, but gonna continue using this one, since the results so far have been amazing.

Just saw this post as well. Glad someone else has had the same experience.

Cannot recommend the Vichy Dercos enough. I don't think other shampoos are as good - this one is actually the best with Malasezzia. Full disclosure - I used to work for Loreal who make it (not any more) and I know that the way they formulate their selenium sulfide is different to other companies so maybe that is it.

I am certain it works as it holds my Seborrheic Dermatitis completely at bay, so hopefully will continue helping my lowerback acne/plugsas well.

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Posted : 11/08/2020 4:28 pm

Seborrheic dermatitis can be due to yeast/fungus in the pores and results in the tiny white plugs. Oneway to tell if its a yeast/fungus is if it itches, gets better in sunlight, worse with antibiotics and better with antifungals. Try using antifungalproducts for a month and just see if it helps out. **Do not use products with oil** they feed the yeast/fungus. Do not pick, you can introduce bacteria and then your body has to fight off bacteria and fungus.

Use adandruff shampoo with coal tar, zinc pyrithione, Ketaconozole or sulfur. Put it on a dry face for at least 10 minutes and then rinse off.

I use this sulfur gel with aloe Vera and you can use it as often as needed.

https://www.amazon.com/Kala-Health-MSMPure-Strength-Treatment/dp/B000O379PC/

You can also use products with urea to help remove the white plugs from your skin.

Also use an antifungal cream.

If you need to moisturize use cerave moisturizing cream.

 

 

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Posted : 11/09/2020 3:53 am

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