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Of course they exist. They just have no bearing on acne.
Yes they do. 1) allergy and other intolerances promote inflammation which is at the root of acne formation. and 2) some get pimple formation as a direct response to the allergen within a day of exposure, although I think this is not necessarily true acne. I also wonder about women who breakout along with their cycle. How does it happen that fast?
I think the symptom of acne can be produced by many pathways and they don't all follow the several week process they tell us.
Mother's side of the family is plagued with acne. Unfortunately, she passed down her terrible, terrible genetics to my three brothers and I. Ironic how I had the most severe acne and accutane failed to work for me, sigh.....
Have you tried improving your diet and lifestyle habits? Keep blood sugar stable? Fill up on nutrient dense foods rather than processed empty and nearly empty calorie crap? Sleep well?
Accutane did nothing for me as well. Nor did anything else any dermatologist ever prescribed. But many years later, diet changes cleared me.
Of course they exist. They just have no bearing on acne.
Yes they do. 1) allergy and other intolerances promote inflammation which is at the root of acne formation. and 2) some get pimple formation as a direct response to the allergen within a day of exposure, although I think this is not necessarily true acne. I also wonder about women who breakout along with their cycle. How does it happen that fast?
I think the symptom of acne can be produced by many pathways and they don't all follow the several week process they tell us.
Mother's side of the family is plagued with acne. Unfortunately, she passed down her terrible, terrible genetics to my three brothers and I. Ironic how I had the most severe acne and accutane failed to work for me, sigh.....
Have you tried improving your diet and lifestyle habits? Keep blood sugar stable? Fill up on nutrient dense foods rather than processed empty and nearly empty calorie crap? Sleep well?
Accutane did nothing for me as well. Nor did anything else any dermatologist ever prescribed. But many years later, diet changes cleared me.
Hey,
I've actually been reading all your posts regarding dieting and everything. However, I have an extremely fast metabolism and every time I attempt to diet, it leaves me starving and feeling weak. The only foods that I have totally eliminated from my diet are dairy, refined sugars, and pork. I'm also taking a daily multivitamin, vitamin e+c. Before I actually got acne I use to have refined sugars, dairy, and pork on a daily basis, now not anymore. I also have an oil problem, which I know is the culprit for my acne. Do you have any idea how chromium supplements might help me?
Hey,
I've actually been reading all your posts regarding dieting and everything. However, I have an extremely fast metabolism and every time I attempt to diet, it leaves me starving and feeling weak. The only foods that I have totally eliminated from my diet are dairy, refined sugars, and pork. I'm also taking a daily multivitamin, vitamin e+c. Before I actually got acne I use to have refined sugars, dairy, and pork on a daily basis, now not anymore. I also have an oil problem, which I know is the culprit for my acne. Do you have any idea how chromium supplements might help me?
Chromium helps with stable blood sugar.
What do you mean by diet? Because this doesn't necessarily involve calorie reduction. Do you have trouble finding substitutes for grains and refined carbs? I used to feel weak when I was hungry. Often just before lunchtime. And it was a big problem when traveling since I used to eat breakfast nearly first thing and when you travel, you usually get ready and head out somewhere before eating. I nearly passed out once but usually got nauseous. I don't have that problem anymore since improving my diet. Now I walk the dog first and often other exercise and chores before breakfast to deliberately prolong the fast.
Also a once a day multi vitamin is usually useless. It does no good to take water soluble vitamins once and there are many nutrients for which your body can only take in so much at a time, and that amount is not the RDA, most of which are too low. And to get enough magnesium, it would make a really, really big pill. I take nature's way alive twice a day. It's meant to be taken 3 times, but I eat well, especially at lunch, so I stretch my dollars a bit by not taking it then.
Of course they exist. They just have no bearing on acne.
Yes they do. 1) allergy and other intolerances promote inflammation which is at the root of acne formation. and 2) some get pimple formation as a direct response to the allergen within a day of exposure, although I think this is not necessarily true acne. I also wonder about women who breakout along with their cycle. How does it happen that fast?
I think the symptom of acne can be produced by many pathways and they don't all follow the several week process they tell us.
Mother's side of the family is plagued with acne. Unfortunately, she passed down her terrible, terrible genetics to my three brothers and I. Ironic how I had the most severe acne and accutane failed to work for me, sigh.....
Have you tried improving your diet and lifestyle habits? Keep blood sugar stable? Fill up on nutrient dense foods rather than processed empty and nearly empty calorie crap? Sleep well?
Accutane did nothing for me as well. Nor did anything else any dermatologist ever prescribed. But many years later, diet changes cleared me.
Hey,
I've actually been reading all your posts regarding dieting and everything. However, I have an extremely fast metabolism and every time I attempt to diet, it leaves me starving and feeling weak. The only foods that I have totally eliminated from my diet are dairy, refined sugars, and pork. I'm also taking a daily multivitamin, vitamin e+c. Before I actually got acne I use to have refined sugars, dairy, and pork on a daily basis, now not anymore. I also have an oil problem, which I know is the culprit for my acne. Do you have any idea how chromium supplements might help me?
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Yes, I'm actually having a hard time finding substitutes for grains and refined carbs, again I'm very new to this and changing diets is very difficult for me because of my previous eating habits before I broke out. I'm also confused on what you meant by taking once a day multivitamins being useless? Is nature's way alive a better multivitamin alternative? I know for a fact my acne is 100% hormonal considering 1. dairy breaks me out horribly, and 2. masturbation causes me to breakout
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Gene therapy for acne in the future could be the solution:
This is probably the first news item that makes me see some sort of light down the road.
I have an unshaken belief the root cause of genetic acne is some sort of lipase metabolism disorder COMBINED with a hyper-keratinization disorder.
If they're considering approval of gene therapy then they must have worked out a less dangerous viral vector.
I'll look into getting tested for fat metabolism disorders (which are not that uncommon).
Genetic control of sebum excretion and acne--a twin study.
[url= http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Walton S[Author]&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=2965597]Walton S
[url= http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Wyatt EH[Author]&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=2965597]Wyatt EH, [url= http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=Cunliffe WJ[Author]&cauthor=true&cauthor_uid=2965597]Cunliffe WJ.
Source
Department of Dermatology, Hull Royal Infirmary, U.K.
Abstract
Sebum excretion and acne grades were measured in 20 pairs each of identical and non-identical like-sex twins. The identical twins had virtually identical rates of sebum excretion (P greater than 0.05), but they had a significantly different degree of acne severity (P less than 0.01). The non-identical twins had significantly different sebum excretion rates (P less than 0.01) and acne grades (P less than 0.01). These findings suggest that sebum excretion is under genetic control and the development of clinical lesions is modified by environmental factors.
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Although many of us, myself included, have found that diet and other habits can improve sebum output. And quality. So I doubt this study isof any validity.
This study on the genetics of P acnes finds that there we might have a subspecies of the bacteria that causes acne as opposed to the bacteria present in normal skin:
Full article: http://www.ncbi.nlm....82/?tool=pubmed
I just noticed the wikipedia article has a couple more genes to look into:
The predisposition for specific individuals to acne is likely explained by a genetic component, which has been supported by twin studies as well as studies that have looked at rates of acne among first degree relatives. The genetics of acne susceptibility is likely polygenic, as the disease does not follow classic Mendelian inheritance pattern. There are multiple candidates for genes which are possibly related to acne, including polymorphisms in TNF-alpha, IL-1 alpha, CYP1A1 among others.[19]
I made a limited effort to substantiate my statements and also learned something new in the process.
Older research from 2002 (which I read back then but did not keep an index to):
http://www.nature.co...l/5603340a.html
And newer (2009) and very interesting finding:
http://www.nature.co...jid200947a.html
the take-away being: "A genetic background is suggested, with mother's acne history being the most important prognostic factor".
which is entirely aligned with my family's experience, with acne transmitted along maternal line for the three generations I have data on.
So it's a chromosome X linked defect then, hmmm...it follows that if I conceive a BOY with an unaffected female it should result in unaffected offspring if my cursory understanding of genetics is correct.
XY (me) + XX (unaffected female) --> X(clear female)Y(clear me) = clear BOY or X(clear female)X(affected me) = acne GIRL
XY (me) + XX (affected female) --> X(affected female)Y(clear me) = acne BOY or X(affected female)X(affected me) = double-acne GIRL
Looks like acne girls should not conceive, and acne guys should only have boys with clear girls; don't hate, I'm just a messenger....
My acne prone father conceived boys & girls with clear skinned girl. All acne prone.
If only some one was looking into how we might flip the epigenetic switches on the genes/enzyme mutations that have been identified in acne prone skin. And I don't mean with drugs. There are several mechanisms.
Methylation is one and that means diet- several sulfur containing amino acids an b vitamins.