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Posted : 10/17/2006 1:18 pm

Still looking for a good cleanser;

How's this?

SYSTEME PURET- LA MOUSSE Chanel

Aqua (Water), Glycerin, Potassium Palmitate, Potassium Stearate, Potassium Laurate, Sodium Methyl Cocoyl Taurate, Potassium Myristate, Polyethylene, Butylene Glycol, Jojoba Esters, Fomes Officinalis Extract (Mushroom), PEG-3 Distearate, Sodium Lauroyl Lactylate, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Caprylic/CapricTriglyceride, Potassium Sorbate, Parfum (Fragrance), Polyquaternium 7, Sodium Cocoyl Isethionate, Lauryl Glucoside, Phenoxyethanol, Niacinamide, Methylparaben, Disodium EDTA, Tetrasodium EDTA, Benzoic Acid, Faex (Yeast Extract), Aesculus Hippocastanum (Horse Chestnut) Extract, Moringa Pterygosperma Seed Extract, Ammonium Glycyrrhizate, Disodium Phosphate, Panthenol, Propylene Glycol, Zinc Gluconate, Sodium Citrate, PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Chlorphenesin, Citric Acid, Caffeine, Ethylparaben, Propylparaben, Biotin, CI 77289 (Chromium Hydroxide Green)

Hope you don't mind, that I will look for some more cleanersand see what you think of them?

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Posted : 10/18/2006 1:55 am

SweetAmber said:

Still looking for a good cleanser;

How's this?

SYSTEME PURET- LA MOUSSE Chanel

Aqua (Water), Glycerin, Potassium Palmitate, Potassium Stearate, Potassium Laurate, Sodium Methyl Cocoyl Taurate, Potassium Myristate, Polyethylene, Butylene Glycol, Jojoba Esters, Fomes Officinalis Extract (Mushroom), PEG-3 Distearate, Sodium Lauroyl Lactylate, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Caprylic/CapricTriglyceride, Potassium Sorbate, Parfum (Fragrance), Polyquaternium 7, Sodium Cocoyl Isethionate, Lauryl Glucoside, Phenoxyethanol, Niacinamide, Methylparaben, Disodium EDTA, Tetrasodium EDTA, Benzoic Acid, Faex (Yeast Extract), Aesculus Hippocastanum (Horse Chestnut) Extract, Moringa Pterygosperma Seed Extract, Ammonium Glycyrrhizate, Disodium Phosphate, Panthenol, Propylene Glycol, Zinc Gluconate, Sodium Citrate, PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Chlorphenesin, Citric Acid, Caffeine, Ethylparaben, Propylparaben, Biotin, CI 77289 (Chromium Hydroxide Green)

Hope you don't mind, that I will look for some more cleanersand see what you think of them?

The thing that concerns me most about the cleanser is that it seems to contain a lot of fragrance, which is irritating. Other than that, it's probably OK.

It seems like the cleansers you're looking at are all from department store brands- which is fine, but you might be overpaying. There are a lot of good drugstore cleansers, too; they might not have all the fancy ingredients, but those are wasted in cleansers anyway because they get washed down the drain.

It's fine to ask me about products, and I like how you help me out by posting the ingredients lists so I don't have to go hunting for them.

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Posted : 10/18/2006 5:43 am

Hi, here are the ingredients,im using 2 kinds of kinerase one is in cream format and other lotion specially for oily skin both of them have diff ingredients but i prefer cream but since lotion is made for oily skin the last couple of weeks im using lotion but the cream gives me a better feeling.

 

Kinerase Lotion:-Purified water, glycerin, stearyl alcohol, glyceryl stearate, PEG-100 stearate, safflower oil, octyl hydroxystearate, cetyl alcohol, aloe barbadenis gel, dimethicone, diazolidinyl urea, carbomer, methylparaben, soy sterol, triethanolamine, panthenol, propylparaben, tocopheryl acetates, sodium hydroxide, ascoric acid, retinyl palmitate, cholecalciferol, corn oil, N6-furfuryladenine.

 

Kinerase Cream:-Water, Glyceryl Stearate, Isopropyl Palmitate, Propylene Glycol, Stearic Acid, Cetyl Alcohol, Carthamus Tinctorius (Safflower) Seed OiI, Glycine Soja (Soy Bean) Sterols, Stearyl Alcohol, Laureth-23, Dimethicone, Citric Acid, Sodium Hydroxide, Soluable Collagen, Kinetin, Carbomer, Panthenol, Ascorbic Acid, Hydrolyzed Elastin, Aloe Baradensis Leaf Juice, Imidazolidinyl Urea, Triethanolamine, Methylparaben, Propylparaben

 

Could you also recommend me something to exfoliate with ? any product that i can use once or twice a week maybe to start of with ?.Also is it safe to cleanse my face with cetaphil cleanser 3-4 times a day ? i have been doing this it doesnt cause any irritation at all but just incase.

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Posted : 10/19/2006 1:08 am

Hi, here are the ingredients,im using 2 kinds of kinerase one is in cream format and other lotion specially for oily skin both of them have diff ingredients but i prefer cream but since lotion is made for oily skin the last couple of weeks im using lotion but the cream gives me a better feeling.

 

Kinerase Lotion:-Purified water, glycerin, stearyl alcohol, glyceryl stearate, PEG-100 stearate, safflower oil, octyl hydroxystearate, cetyl alcohol, aloe barbadenis gel, dimethicone, diazolidinyl urea, carbomer, methylparaben, soy sterol, triethanolamine, panthenol, propylparaben, tocopheryl acetates, sodium hydroxide, ascoric acid, retinyl palmitate, cholecalciferol, corn oil, N6-furfuryladenine.

 

Kinerase Cream:-Water, Glyceryl Stearate, Isopropyl Palmitate, Propylene Glycol, Stearic Acid, Cetyl Alcohol, Carthamus Tinctorius (Safflower) Seed OiI, Glycine Soja (Soy Bean) Sterols, Stearyl Alcohol, Laureth-23, Dimethicone, Citric Acid, Sodium Hydroxide, Soluable Collagen, Kinetin, Carbomer, Panthenol, Ascorbic Acid, Hydrolyzed Elastin, Aloe Baradensis Leaf Juice, Imidazolidinyl Urea, Triethanolamine, Methylparaben, Propylparaben

 

Could you also recommend me something to exfoliate with ? any product that i can use once or twice a week maybe to start of with ?.Also is it safe to cleanse my face with cetaphil cleanser 3-4 times a day ? i have been doing this it doesnt cause any irritation at all but just incase.

 

 

I don't see anything in your lotion or cream that is likely to cause problems with irritation, but I do see in your cream isopropyl palmitate, which can potentially clog pores. That doesn't mean that it will, though- it depends on the person.

 

Really you should only be cleansing about twice a day; even if your skin doesn't seem irritated now, you might see problems later. Why not try fragrance-free, witch hazel-free, and alcohol-free baby wipes to freshen up with instead?

 

If you don't mind ordering off the internet, get one of the Paula's Choice 2% Beta Hydroxy Acid products. There are two lotion versions; one advertised for use on the body (which can also be used on the face) and one advertised for use on the face. The one advertised for use on the body is less expensive per ounce, and all the Paula's Choice 2% BHA products are less expensive per ounce than the other pH-correct and gentle salicylic acid products that I know of. They are also better-formulated, using ingredients not likely to cause breakouts and also none that are likely to cause irritation.

 

If you do mind ordering off of the internet, get either Olay's Total Effects Anti-Aging Anti-Blemish Daily Moisturizer or Neutrogena's Rapid Clear Acne Defense Lotion. These come in lotion form and are not as good as the Paula's Choice in addition to being more expensive per ounce, but they are also pH-correct and relatively gentle.

 

I recommended salicylic acid products to you because contrary to what many people think, salicylic acid is less irritating than alpha hydroxy acids. The reason why is because salicylic acid is a derivative of aspirin, and retains aspirin's anti-inflammatory properties, lessening the risk of irritation. Unfortunately, so many salicylic acid products are alcohol based and/or contain other skin irritants, so it's gotten the reputation of being a harsh and drying ingredient when really the other ingredients were causing the irritation. The other option, manual exfoliation, seems to be too abrasive based on what you've said (plus it provides uneven exfoliation, unlike chemical exfoliants, which provide even exfoliation). Also, salicylic acid is superior to scrubs and alpha hyroxy acids for treating clogged pores because it is lipid soluble and can exfoliate within the pore.

 

I know you only want to use an exfoliant once or twice a week, but chemical exfoliants formulated for regular use work best when you use them somewhere between once every other day and twice daily. So to start off with, you should use them around four times a week (or three if you're really afraid of irritating your skin), and then gradually work your way up if or when you think your skin can handle it.

 

Any signs of skin sensitivity you experience upon application (stinging, tingling, redness, etc...) should stop occurring two weeks or less after starting the use of a salicylic acid product. If they don't stop or get a lot worse, then your original thoguhts about your skin not being able to handle exfoliation may be right.

 

It is very, very important to wear a good broad-spectrum sunscreen, and even more so when using exfoliants. Since you play sports, you probably want to be using a water resistant one, like Neutrogena's Dry Touch Sunblocks.

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Posted : 10/19/2006 3:40 am

hey ,thanks again for your help .Unfort. i live in the middle east so ordering from the internet will cost me alot.Yes i use a 100spf sunblock which really goes well no irritation etc..BUt i would like to stick to kinerase since i also feel it has reduced my fine lines on forehead and i love the feel,if it doesnt irritate then ill stick to this.Isnt cetaphil fine? its really gentle i feel its like water,i usually use it 3 times morning evening (after workout/sport) and night.I hope thats not harsh i had no effects till now though.Could you recommened anything to exfoliate with which is widely available in every pharmacy ? sorry for the trouble.I dont like my face red and peeling but i will start of 4 times a week as you said.

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Posted : 10/20/2006 7:14 pm

THANK YOU FOR THE LIST OF TIPS.

 

Oh this is just crap.. The skin cleanser I have is this:

 

4. Give a "tingly" or "cooling" feeling. That feeling is caused by skin irritants like menthol and camphor.

 

It gives me a cooling and tingly feeling! I assumed it was good for you and it also scrubs my skin and aggravates it even more. I hate the media for saying its good for your skin when its not. :snooty::shock:

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Posted : 10/24/2006 3:47 pm

Hi Snow Queen, thank you for all of your helpful information.

 

Question: maybe I missed it, but I don;'t hear a lot of people on this forum talking much about Vichy products. Is there a reason for this? I'm currently using a cleansing foam by Vichy as well as an exfoliant and a hydrating cream.

 

What are your thoughts on Vichy products? I've only been using them for about a month and they seem to be ok but they are not getting rid of those HORRIBLE whiteheads.

 

I was also using Aveeno cleanser....thoughts?

 

For active pimples I've been using Avene (contains GA)

 

Thanks again!!!:)

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Posted : 10/25/2006 11:39 pm

hey ,thanks again for your help .Unfort. i live in the middle east so ordering from the internet will cost me alot.Yes i use a 100spf sunblock which really goes well no irritation etc..BUt i would like to stick to kinerase since i also feel it has reduced my fine lines on forehead and i love the feel,if it doesnt irritate then ill stick to this.Isnt cetaphil fine? its really gentle i feel its like water,i usually use it 3 times morning evening (after workout/sport) and night.I hope thats not harsh i had no effects till now though.Could you recommened anything to exfoliate with which is widely available in every pharmacy ? sorry for the trouble.I dont like my face red and peeling but i will start of 4 times a week as you said.

 

 

Hi again. Sorry it took me so long to respond; I don't always have internet access but come on Acne.org when I do.

 

I'm pretty sure Neutrogena and Olay products are sold worldwide, so take your pick from either the Olay Total Effects Anti-Wrinkle Anti-Blemish or the Neutrogena Rapid Clear Acne Defense Lotion. I'm sorry for repeating information if you've already checked your local drugstores for these products; if you haven't, hopefully they'll be available to you.

 

If those Neutrogena and Olay products aren't available to you locally, let me know and we'll see what we can find for you to use as an exfoliant.

 

 

 

Hi Snow Queen, thank you for all of your helpful information.

 

Question: maybe I missed it, but I don;'t hear a lot of people on this forum talking much about Vichy products. Is there a reason for this? I'm currently using a cleansing foam by Vichy as well as an exfoliant and a hydrating cream.

 

What are your thoughts on Vichy products? I've only been using them for about a month and they seem to be ok but they are not getting rid of those HORRIBLE whiteheads.

 

I was also using Aveeno cleanser....thoughts?

 

For active pimples I've been using Avene (contains GA)

 

Thanks again!!!:)

 

 

In all honesty I am not familiar at all with the Vichy line. Here's what Paula Begoun says on her website about the brand:

 

Vichy is a line of skin-care products owned by L'Oreal, and, much like L'Oreal, Vichy retails at drugstores, the prices are relatively inexpensive, and there are some OK products. The areas where Vichy excels are its sunscreens, though it falls short in its acne and moisturizing products.

 

So based on that the products you've been using probably aren't formulated well enough to effectively eliminate whiteheads, and they might even be making the condition worse if the products contain the same skin irritants many acne products do.

 

Some Aveeno cleansers are OK; which one were you thinking of?

 

Which Avene product have you been using, and what are the ingredients? I won't be able to tell you the pH of the product from the ingredients list, but it's a lot easier to find pH-correct and gentle alpha hydroxy acid products as opposed to pH-correct and gentle salicylic acid products, though salicylic acid is better for dealing with clogged pores because it is lipid soluble and actually exfoliates inside the pore, unlike alpha hydroxy acids.

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Posted : 10/26/2006 12:41 am

okay Queen, the dudu black soap comes in a liquid form

Ingredients below:

Pure Honey

Shea Butter

Osun (Camwood)

Potassium Palkernelate

Sodium Palm Kernelate

Glyceride

Aloe Vera

Lime Juice

Lemon Juice

Water

Fragrance

 

 

WHAT DO YOU GUYS USE ALL THIS FOR

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Posted : 10/26/2006 8:48 am

Snow -

 

Been struggling with the CSR regimen for almost a year - patches of clearness - i believe mostly due to diet, maybe differin, and gentle uses of a astringent with SA.

 

Read your post and noticed you suggested Neutrogena Rapid Clear Acne Defense Face Lotion. Could/should this be added to the CSR?

 

Current products -

Dan's BP gel

Nivea for Men extra gentle cleanser - (Ingredients:Water, Glycerin, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Carbomer, Phenoxyethanol, Sodium Methyl Cocoyl Taurate, PEG-7 Glyceryl Cocoate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Bisabolol, Xanthan Gum, Sodium Hydroxide, Methylparaben, Ethylparaben, Propylparaben, Butylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Benzophenone 4

Lac Hydrin 5 if I need it.

 

Differin at night.

 

Thanks

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Posted : 10/26/2006 4:40 pm

Snow -

 

Been struggling with the CSR regimen for almost a year - patches of clearness - i believe mostly due to diet, maybe differin, and gentle uses of a astringent with SA.

 

Read your post and noticed you suggested Neutrogena Rapid Clear Acne Defense Face Lotion. Could/should this be added to the CSR?

 

Current products -

Dan's BP gel

Nivea for Men extra gentle cleanser - (Ingredients:Water, Glycerin, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Carbomer, Phenoxyethanol, Sodium Methyl Cocoyl Taurate, PEG-7 Glyceryl Cocoate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Bisabolol, Xanthan Gum, Sodium Hydroxide, Methylparaben, Ethylparaben, Propylparaben, Butylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Benzophenone 4

Lac Hydrin 5 if I need it.

 

Differin at night.

 

Thanks

 

 

You could use the Neutrogena Rapid Clear Acne Defense Face Lotion in the CSR (although I'm not sure if that would still be the "CSR"). Dan encourages the use of an alpha hydroxy acid lotion to help fade red marks once you're clear, I encourage the use of a pH-correct and gentle salicylic acid product to help get you clear. I think Dan doesn't like salicylic acid products because all the ones that he tried contained skin irritants, making them drying, and/or weren't pH correct, making them ineffective. It's much easier to find well-formulatated alpha hydroxy acid products; however, in well-formulated products salicylic acid is superior to alpha hydroxy acids for the treatment of acne because it is lipid soluble and can actually exfoliate inside the pore rather than the just skin's surface.

 

Don't use your astringent with the Neutrogena product, though. It's not good to use more than one method of exfoliation at a time because you will irritate your skin. Actually, I've never seen a product labeled "astringent" that didn't list alcohol or witch hazel high up on the ingredients list, so don't use it at all because any benefit the salicylic acid in that product may be having for your skin is being hindered by irritants. It may be hard to break the habit of using an astringent because they really do leave your face feeling clean, but be patient and eventually you should see improvement.

 

You also shouldn't use your Lac Hydrin 5% Lotion with the Neutrogena product because as I mentioned above, it's too irritating to use more than one method of exfoliation at a time.

 

The other thing that Dan's regimen doesn't stress is the regular use of a good SPF 15 or higher broad-spectrum sunscreen. You didn't mention that you're using one, but if you're not, you should be, and even more so given that the product you're using can make your skin more sun sensitive. Sun damage is cumulative and happens long before you start to tan. UVA and UVB rays penetrate cloud cover, and UVA rays penetrate untinted glass and light clothing. The damage caused can actually contribute to acne by thickening the skin and prematurely killing skin cells, both of which can increase your number of clogged pores. It also impairs healthy skin function, which can worsen acne as well. And I haven't even gotten into the potential for skin cancer yet...

 

The last thing is that you shouldn't moisturize everywhere on your face as the CSR suggests unless everywhere on your face is dry (the exception to this rule is that you can moisturize your entire face if your lotion contains a broad spectrum SPF 15 or higher sunscreen or an exfoliant). If not, moisturizing skin that is not dry can actually increase the risk of clogged pores because the moisturizer mixes with the skin's excess sebum, trapping dead skin cells against the skin's surface. It also interferes with normal skin function.

 

Since Dan and I disagree on some issues, I guess the CSR done how I prefer really isn't the CSR. Think of it as your own personally modified CSR instead. Don't be afraid of not following the CSR as its originally intended; you've been doing it for a year, and although you've seen some skin improvement (which you don't even attribute to the benzoyl peroxide), you're still not as clear as you'd like to be. Not that you should expect to never get a breakout again (even those who have successfully taken Accutane still get the occasional breakout), just that you should expect your acne to be mostly gone. Also, I recommend giving a regimen at least one month and preferrably two to see results, and three months if you're trying prescription retinoids. When I say that I don't mean that you should see full results, just that you should see a noticeable amount of improvement so that you know your regimen is working.

 

The Nivea for Men Extra Gentle Cleanser is a good product and one I recommend with some frequency.

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Posted : 10/26/2006 5:06 pm

thanks so much for the reply snow.

 

I was using nivea protective moisturizer w/spf 15

(Active Ingredients: Octinoxate, Avobenzone, Oxybenzone, Titanium Dioxide)

(Inactive Ingredients: Water, Glycerin, Alcohol Denat, Distarch Phosphate, Isodecyl Neopentanoate, Butyrospermium parkii (Shea Butter), Cetearyl Alcohol, Glyceryl Stearate Citrate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Creatine, 1-Methylhydantoin-2-Imide, Ubiquinone, Fragrance, Butylene Glycol, Carbomer, Sodium Hydroxide, EDTA, Alumina, Silica, Sodium Polyacrylate, Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Iodopropynyl, Butylcarbamate)

and thought that was working fine - had some occasional flakes - tried lac hydrin 5 and havent had any flakes since. looking at the nivea moisturizer, its probably not that good cause it has alcohol denat.. any suggestions?

 

I understand what you are saying about too much exfoliation - so I will try and find a new moisturizer strictly for SPF use - I tried some that were suggested and they just didnt seem to agree with me - any suggestions?

 

How about the use of jojoba oil - i have some and tried it in the past. 2-3 drops put onto my face before other topics seemed to eliminate the need for a moisturizer all together- but i am not sure if it helped - any suggestions?

 

Thanks - I really appreciate your help!

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Posted : 10/26/2006 9:07 pm

thanks so much for the reply snow.

 

I was using nivea protective moisturizer w/spf 15

(Active Ingredients: Octinoxate, Avobenzone, Oxybenzone, Titanium Dioxide)

(Inactive Ingredients: Water, Glycerin, Alcohol Denat, Distarch Phosphate, Isodecyl Neopentanoate, Butyrospermium parkii (Shea Butter), Cetearyl Alcohol, Glyceryl Stearate Citrate, Tocopheryl Acetate, Creatine, 1-Methylhydantoin-2-Imide, Ubiquinone, Fragrance, Butylene Glycol, Carbomer, Sodium Hydroxide, EDTA, Alumina, Silica, Sodium Polyacrylate, Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Propylparaben, Iodopropynyl, Butylcarbamate)

and thought that was working fine - had some occasional flakes - tried lac hydrin 5 and havent had any flakes since. looking at the nivea moisturizer, its probably not that good cause it has alcohol denat.. any suggestions?

 

I understand what you are saying about too much exfoliation - so I will try and find a new moisturizer strictly for SPF use - I tried some that were suggested and they just didnt seem to agree with me - any suggestions?

 

How about the use of jojoba oil - i have some and tried it in the past. 2-3 drops put onto my face before other topics seemed to eliminate the need for a moisturizer all together- but i am not sure if it helped - any suggestions?

 

Thanks - I really appreciate your help!

 

 

Your sunscreen seems to have a lot of alcohol denat in it, so I'd try to find something better. It is broad-spectrum, at least.

 

Which sunscreens did you try and not like? And what specifically did you not like about them? I want to know so that I can help you find one that works for you.

 

If using a few drops of jojoba oil over dry areas is your preferred method of moisturization, go for it. Jojoba oil is an NMF (natural moisturizing factor) which can temporarily improve the appearance of skin and help maintain the skin's intercellular matrix. Using such ingredients probably won't make much difference in your acne, but they can help the skin look and feel better for a short time. Personally, I like my moisturizer to have not just NMFs, but also antioxidants, anti-irritants, and waterbinding agents, but it won't destroy your skin if you don't have these ingredients in your moisturizer. Besides, many products not advertised as moisturizers have these types of ingredients (though they're wasted in cleansers because they get rinsed away).

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Posted : 10/26/2006 9:44 pm

Lets see -

 

I have tried cetaphil and two different types of nivea moisturizer. I ended up with the nivea cause it was spf 15 and i thought it went on nice. I thought the cetaphil was a bit greasy - but looking back I was probably using way to much - as I was never very dry. Guessing that was messing up my face? You mention a moisturizer that's "to have not just NMFs, but also antioxidants, anti-irritants, and waterbinding agents" - which would be? Maybe I could try it out - the cetephil seemed to greasy/oily and ..... ick. reminded me of a chemical worse then BP.

 

Anyway - tried the jojoba again tonight and it does feel nice. Everywhere I read its suggeste to message some all over your face after a shower or cleansing - then continue as usually with your topicals etc - should it only be used in dry spots?

 

 

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Posted : 10/26/2006 10:12 pm

Lets see -

 

I have tried cetaphil and two different types of nivea moisturizer. I ended up with the nivea cause it was spf 15 and i thought it went on nice. I thought the cetaphil was a bit greasy - but looking back I was probably using way to much - as I was never very dry. Guessing that was messing up my face? You mention a moisturizer that's "to have not just NMFs, but also antioxidants, anti-irritants, and waterbinding agents" - which would be? Maybe I could try it out - the cetephil seemed to greasy/oily and ..... ick. reminded me of a chemical worse then BP.

 

Anyway - tried the jojoba again tonight and it does feel nice. Everywhere I read its suggeste to message some all over your face after a shower or cleansing - then continue as usually with your topicals etc - should it only be used in dry spots?

 

 

Dove makes my favorite drugstore moisturizers, for both daytime and nighttime use. If you want a nighttime moisturizer, get the Dove Sensitive Skin Lotion; it contains antioxidants, anti-irritants, and waterbinding agents (lots of moisturizers do, but usually only in small amounts or alongside skin irritants). I just bought some at Target, and WalMart sometimes has it. For daytime, Dove's Deep Moisture Lotion with SPF 15 is fine. I didn't find it to be greasy when I tried it; hopefully you won't find it to be greasy either should you try it. Plus it has the same beneficial ingredients that Dove's nighttime lotions do.

 

EDIT: I didn't see the other part of your question. Only moisturize dry spots. As I mentioned before about regular moisturizers, moisturizing skin that doesn't need it can cause problems. If you think about it, does it make sense to moisturize skin that doesn't look or feel dry?

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Posted : 10/27/2006 12:21 am

hey snow queen, i've been on accutane for about a month now and i was wondering if i could use a gentle scrub or something to smoothe my skin out. would a mask or scrub be better? i was interested in the body shop's products because my friend recommended it to me.

 

here's one scrub from there:

 

Water, Glycerin, Octyl Palmitate, Cetearyl Alcohol, Glycine Soja (Soybean) Oil, Polyethylene, Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Germ Oil, Sorbitan Stearate, Glyceryl Stearate, PEG-100 Stearate, Benzyl Alcohol, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), Tocopheryl Acetate, Phenoxyethanol, Carbomer, Acrylates/C10-30 Alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer, Jojoba Esters, Sodium Hydroxide, Fragrance, Methylparaben, Disodium EDTA, Citronellol, Butylparaben, Ethylparaben, Alpha-Isomethyl Ionone, Isobutylparaben, Propylparaben, Linalool, Geraniol, Limonene, Citral, Eugenol, Farnesol, Red 30, Red 4.

 

 

 

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Posted : 10/28/2006 7:09 am

Hey there,

 

What do you think about Kosmea Rose Hip Oil Products. I am using the Purifying cleanser, do you think this will make me breakout? Some warn against using RoseHip Oil on active breakouts.

 

Also what about Thursday Plantation Tea Tree face wash?

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Posted : 10/28/2006 10:47 pm

hey snow queen, i've been on accutane for about a month now and i was wondering if i could use a gentle scrub or something to smoothe my skin out. would a mask or scrub be better? i was interested in the body shop's products because my friend recommended it to me.

 

here's one scrub from there:

 

Water, Glycerin, Octyl Palmitate, Cetearyl Alcohol, Glycine Soja (Soybean) Oil, Polyethylene, Triticum Vulgare (Wheat) Germ Oil, Sorbitan Stearate, Glyceryl Stearate, PEG-100 Stearate, Benzyl Alcohol, Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea Butter), Tocopheryl Acetate, Phenoxyethanol, Carbomer, Acrylates/C10-30 Alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer, Jojoba Esters, Sodium Hydroxide, Fragrance, Methylparaben, Disodium EDTA, Citronellol, Butylparaben, Ethylparaben, Alpha-Isomethyl Ionone, Isobutylparaben, Propylparaben, Linalool, Geraniol, Limonene, Citral, Eugenol, Farnesol, Red 30, Red 4.

 

 

You could use a mask or a scrub, depending on the product. Both will remove layers of dead skin from the skin's surface, temporarily making the skin feel softer and smoother. Some of The Body Shop's products are OK; my biggest issue with their products is that many are highly fragranced, which can be irritating to the skin.

 

The scrub you mentioned is probably OK, despite the listed fragrance and other fragrant components like geraniol. Fragranced scrubs and cleansers pose less of a risk for irritation to the skin than leave-on products like moisturizers because the irritant is in contact with the skin for only a short period of time. Not to say that fragranced cleansers and scrubs won't irritate the skin- I can't use certain fragranced cleansers even though the fragrance isn't listed that high up on the ingredients list.

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Posted : 10/28/2006 11:12 pm

Hey there,

 

What do you think about Kosmea Rose Hip Oil Products. I am using the Purifying cleanser, do you think this will make me breakout? Some warn against using RoseHip Oil on active breakouts.

 

Also what about Thursday Plantation Tea Tree face wash?

 

 

I'm unfamiliar with the Kosmea line, but if you want to post the ingredients lists for specific products you're interested in, I'd be happy to give you my opinion.

 

I've never heard of rose hip oil causing breakouts, but that doesn't mean it's never been a problem for anyone. If people use it or any moisturizer/oil on areas of the skin that are not dry, that can increase the risk of clogged pores because the product will mix with the skin's excess sebum and trap dead skin cells to the skin's surface.

 

It's best to use as few products as possible on active breakouts to prevent further aggravating the skin and to let the skin heal. So that means whichever products you're using to help clear your complexion and a broad-spectrum SPF 15 or higher sunscreen during the daytime.

 

I did find the ingredients for the Thursday Plantation Tea Tree Daily Face Wash, and don't recommend it because it uses TEA-Lauryl Sulfate, a potentially harsh surfectant, as the main cleansing agent. Other than that, it's a medicated cleanser using 0.05% salicylic acid and a teeny bit of tea tree oil. Medicated cleansers generally aren't any more effective for treating acne than regular water-soluble cleansers because the medication isn't in contact with the skin long enough to do much. Also, most cleansers have a pH of 5 or higher, making chemical exfoliants like salicylic acid ineffective for exfoliation. And lastly, tea tree oil likely isn't effective as a disinfectant in concentrations of lower than 5%, and that's in leave-on products. I doubt the tea tree oil in that cleanser would do anything at all given its seemingly low concentration and the short length of time it's on the skin.

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Posted : 10/28/2006 11:45 pm

thanks for the response! well i don't want to risk irritating my skin since it's very sensitive so could you recommend me exceptional masks or scrubs? (possibly an organic or mostly natural one) thanks a million :)

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Posted : 10/29/2006 5:22 pm

Snow -

 

Picked up the Neutrogena SA lotion you suggested a few days ago. Got the Dove spf 15 stuff today.

 

It feels good to bring SA back into my reg - I always thought it helped but always read that it was bad for my skin. The SA lotion you suggested is great! The Dove moisturizer smells a bit girlish, but I dont care - it works well at keeping flakes away, is not to greasy - and for a while it makes me think there is a girl around :doh:

 

Thanks

 

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Posted : 10/31/2006 2:15 pm

Snow queen, thanks for all of the tips. I am going to switch from the CSR to a regiment with salicylic acid and I was wondering how much salicylic acid you use in your regiment. I also plan to use the 2% Paula's. Thanks, Bob

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Posted : 11/01/2006 5:42 am

Hi *SnowQueen*

I have to say, I am using the 'Olay Complete lotion for sens. skin SPF 15' for around two weeks now and I think it's the best stuff I used since long time! I love it.

I stopped Accutane (used it 3 weeks) because I couldn't handle a side-effect but my skin is looking very good and I am happy with. It's far from perfect but I can see the improvement and that's great!

Just wanted to let you know 😉

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I have bought a loose (oil free) face powder (I am going to use this sparingly and over my whole face), the ingredients are:

Ethylene/acrylic copolymer * aluminum starch octenylsuccinate * lauroyl lysine * parfum * methylparaben * sorbic acid * talc * butylparaben * aluminum dimyristate * mica * hydroxyisohexyl 3-cyclohexene * carboxaldehyde * hexyl cinnamal * linalool * butylphenyl * methylpropional * citronellol * alpha-isomethyl ionone * coumarin

Is this an okay powder?

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My other question is; You said that when you moisterize you need to do it only on the spots that actually need the moist or it can give some problems. Okay.

Is that the case for day and/or night?

The last 2 weeks I didn't use any moisterizer on my face for the night, it looks like my skin is better though. I do use moisterizer daytime, the Olay lotion with spf but I use it on my entire face.....

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Posted : 11/01/2006 6:59 pm

I thoght lemon juice was good for your face, because it works for me. Do you have anyhting to say about that, like if you should use it and the amounts?

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Posted : 11/02/2006 11:52 pm

thanks for the response! well i don't want to risk irritating my skin since it's very sensitive so could you recommend me exceptional masks or scrubs? (possibly an organic or mostly natural one) thanks a million :)

 

 

A basic and very reasonably priced mask is Queen Helene's Mud Pack Mask. It doesn't have any fancy ingredients, but other than the fragrance, it shouldn't be likely to cause irritation for your skin, either. Basically, it should do what a mask is meant to do- absorb excess oil and remove dead skin cells.

 

Some scrubs you could try include Aveeno's Skin Brightening Daily Scrub and Dove's Gentle Exfoliating Daily Facial Cleanser.

 

 

 

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