SweetAmber said:

Hi *SnowQueen*

I have to say, I am using the 'Olay Complete lotion for sens. skin SPF 15' for around two weeks now and I think it's the best stuff I used since long time! I love it.

I stopped Accutane (used it 3 weeks) because I couldn't handle a side-effect but my skin is looking very good and I am happy with. It's far from perfect but I can see the improvement and that's great!

Just wanted to let you know 😉

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I have bought a loose (oil free) face powder (I am going to use this sparingly and over my whole face), the ingredients are:

Ethylene/acrylic copolymer * aluminum starch octenylsuccinate * lauroyl lysine * parfum * methylparaben * sorbic acid * talc * butylparaben * aluminum dimyristate * mica * hydroxyisohexyl 3-cyclohexene * carboxaldehyde * hexyl cinnamal * linalool * butylphenyl * methylpropional * citronellol * alpha-isomethyl ionone * coumarin

Is this an okay powder?

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My other question is; You said that when you moisterize you need to do it only on the spots that actually need the moist or it can give some problems. Okay.

Is that the case for day and/or night?

The last 2 weeks I didn't use any moisterizer on my face for the night, it looks like my skin is better though. I do use moisterizer daytime, the Olay lotion with spf but I use it on my entire face.....

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I'm glad you like the Olay Sunscreen so much, and hope everything else continues to go well for you.

Your powder is probably OK, but it looks like it has a lot of fragrance, which may or may not be a problem. Also, if you don't like your face makeup to have any shimmer, this does contain mica, a shimmery ingredient.

It's best to apply moisturizer only on dry areas of skin because unnecessarily moisturizing can cause problems, but unprotected sun exposure can cause worse problems. So, since your moisturizer contains your sunscreen, apply it all over your face (you should aso apply sunscreen to exposed skin on your body and skin that is only covered by lightweight fabrics). If your skin's not dry, don't wear moisturizer at night. If it's only dry in certain places, like around your eyes, spot moisturize.

notcool said:

Snow -

Picked up the Neutrogena SA lotion you suggested a few days ago. Got the Dove spf 15 stuff today.

It feels good to bring SA back into my reg - I always thought it helped but always read that it was bad for my skin. The SA lotion you suggested is great! The Dove moisturizer smells a bit girlish, but I dont care - it works well at keeping flakes away, is not to greasy - and for a while it makes me think there is a girl around

Thanks

I'm glad you like the products and hope everything continues to go well for you. Sorry about the fragrance, but you're probably the only one who will notice it.

bob36 said:

Snow queen, thanks for all of the tips. I am going to switch from the CSR to a regiment with salicylic acid and I was wondering how much salicylic acid you use in your regiment. I also plan to use the 2% Paula's. Thanks, Bob

I'm glad the tips have been helpful for you and hope that your new regimen works well for you. You don't need that much of the 2% Paula's Choice Beta Hydroxy Acid Liquid to get results- you don't want your face to be dripping in it, just use enough to spread across over your entire face. If it doesn't absorb quickly, you're probably using too much.

I thoght lemon juice was good for your face, because it works for me. Do you have anyhting to say about that, like if you should use it and the amounts?

 

Lemon juice idealy shouldn't be used on your face in any amount because it is a skin irritant. When you say it works for you, what do you mean? What specific results do you see?

Well this really isn't to do with topical treatments or anything but if anyone has spots then whatever you do don't pick / squeeze them!, however tempting it may be. Seriousley it may look good for the short term but in the long term your face is draining.

Thanks for the reply Snow Queen

Thanks

I do like a little shimmer sometimes. It's has (the powder) some shimmer indeed but it's very very little.

this thread was the most helpful for me~ removing all (well, most) of those skin irritants really improved my skin a LOT. I had mild acne and now I have almost clear skin. So thanks a lot for the advice! I'm ordering Dan's BP though because although the neutrogena worked pretty okay it runs out too quickly and it has bentonite in it which I worry about...I'm using the proactive BP in the mean time until I get Dan'sBP, but I was wondering if the ingredients in it were okay?

Also, I was wondering if Paula's Choice Carbon Mask is good?

Ingredients:

Contains: Water, Glycerin (water-binding/slip agent), Bentonite (white clay/absorbent), Magnesium Aluminum Silicate (mineral-based absorbent) Decyl Oleate (emollient) Sorbitan Stearate (emulsifier), Xanthan Gum, Glyceryl Stearate (thickeners), Sea Whip Extract (anti-inflammatory and anti-bacterial agent), Silt (Sea Mud) (absorbent), Fucus Vesiculosus (Bladderwrack) Extract (antioxidant), Camellia Sinensis (Green Tea) Extract (antioxidant/anti-irritant), Carbon Black (charcoal/absorbent), Salix Alba (Willow Bark) Extract (anti-inflammatory), Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Ethylparaben, Butylparaben, Propylparaben, Isobutylparaben (all preservatives).

No 1 on the list of ingredients to avoid is Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, is this the same as Sodium Laureth Sulfate? Just about every ingredients list on a face wash I've ever read has that as the main ingredient after water! Discovering this could be a huge breakthrough for me!

So whats so bad about menthol? I been using Oxy chill factor 10% BP with Menthol and it feels good.Could it be making my face worse?

sasha fe said:

this thread was the most helpful for me~ removing all (well, most) of those skin irritants really improved my skin a LOT. I had mild acne and now I have almost clear skin. So thanks a lot for the advice! I'm ordering Dan's BP though because although the neutrogena worked pretty okay it runs out too quickly and it has bentonite in it which I worry about...I'm using the proactive BP in the mean time until I get Dan'sBP, but I was wondering if the ingredients in it were okay?

Also, I was wondering if Paula's Choice Carbon Mask is good?

Ingredients:

Contains: Water, Glycerin (water-binding/slip agent), Bentonite (white clay/absorbent), Magnesium Aluminum Silicate (mineral-based absorbent) Decyl Oleate (emollient) Sorbitan Stearate (emulsifier), Xanthan Gum, Glyceryl Stearate (thickeners), Sea Whip Extract (anti-inflammatory and anti-bacterial agent), Silt (Sea Mud) (absorbent), Fucus Vesiculosus (Bladderwrack) Extract (antioxidant), Camellia Sinensis (Green Tea) Extract (antioxidant/anti-irritant), Carbon Black (charcoal/absorbent), Salix Alba (Willow Bark) Extract (anti-inflammatory), Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Ethylparaben, Butylparaben, Propylparaben, Isobutylparaben (all preservatives).

I'm glad your skin's been clearer and that your taking better care of your skin.

ProActiv's Repairing Lotion is a good benzoyl peroxide product, minus the fragrance.

The Paula's Choice Carbon Mask is also a good product (but it should only be used around once a week).

Reignman said:

No 1 on the list of ingredients to avoid is Sodium Lauryl Sulfate, is this the same as Sodium Laureth Sulfate? Just about every ingredients list on a face wash I've ever read has that as the main ingredient after water! Discovering this could be a huge breakthrough for me!

Sodium lauryl sulfate and sodium laureth sulfate are not the same thing. Here's an article that might make things clearer to you:

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Sodium laureth sulfate is gentle enough for use as the primary surfectant in cleansers, and sodium lauryl sulfate isn't.

shortyrock21 said:

So whats so bad about menthol? I been using Oxy chill factor 10% BP with Menthol and it feels good.Could it be making my face worse?

Menthol is a derivative of peppermint and, like peppermint, it is categorized as a counter-irritant. In some products, like Gold-Bond's, menthol is used to create irritation in one area of the skin to relieve irritation in another. The problem is that this "purposeful" rritation still damages the skin. If the skin needs relief from irritation, the temporary use of a mild treatment, like hydrocortisone products, is preferred.

In acne and oily skin care products, menthol is used to make the consumer think a product is working by creating a cooling/tingly sensation. The fact that you can feel such a sensation indicates that the menthol is damaging your skin and possibly making your complexion worse.

Cetaphil moisturizing lotion contains BENZYL ALCOHOL! its banned as per this topic. i think i know now why my skin was itching for a few days since i used it, now that i stopped using it, the itchings alleviated

Cetaphil moisturizing lotion contains BENZYL ALCOHOL! its banned as per this topic. i think i know now why my skin was itching for a few days since i used it, now that i stopped using it, the itchings alleviated

 

Cetaphil contains only a small amount of benzyl alcohol, and in small concentrations, benzyl alcohol isn't a problem. Your skin might have a unique sensitivity to one of the other ingredients.

oh and i jus noticed cetaphil moisturizer also got Citric acid and Sodium Hydroxide!!! aren't they skin irritants too?

btw i checked out this other product called Bio-lotion, have u guys used it , i bought it recently used it for a while nad my face grown lil pimples and it was itching, i didn't use it together with cetaphil btw, and i noticed Bio-lotion has these skin irritants:

Lavender

Eugenol

Limonene

Linalool

its gonna be hard to find a right moisturizer, i think its best not to use any moisturizers on moderate to sever pimples, if it has to be used i guess its best to be used on a dry skin after shower :s

oh and i jus noticed cetaphil moisturizer also got Citric acid and Sodium Hydroxide!!! aren't they skin irritants too?

 

btw i checked out this other product called Bio-lotion, have u guys used it , i bought it recently used it for a while nad my face grown lil pimples and it was itching, i didn't use it together with cetaphil btw, and i noticed Bio-lotion has these skin irritants:

Lavender

Eugenol

Limonene

Linalool

 

its gonna be hard to find a right moisturizer, i think its best not to use any moisturizers on moderate to sever pimples, if it has to be used i guess its best to be used on a dry skin after shower :s

 

In small amounts citric acid and sodium hydroxide are used to adjust pH, and citric acid also is a preservative.

The ingredients you mentioned in your Bio-Lotion are fragrant skin irritants and should be avoided whenever possible.

snow queen,

this is more of a general question. i just bought neutrogena's ultra-sheer dry-touch sunblock. should i apply it over existing active pimples?? i always feel like putting on sunblock could lead to further breakout. i especially try to avoid putting it on my nose (that's my problem area).

thanks!

I'm 17 and i've always had acne. I'm afraid to say, nothing works.. It's not severe but moderate. Neutrogena for one makes my skin dry and flaky. Does proactiv work?

I'm 17 and i've always had acne. I'm afraid to say, nothing works.. It's not severe but moderate. Neutrogena for one makes my skin dry and flaky. Does proactiv work?

 

ProActiv does work for some people. Here is my overview of the system:

The benzoyl peroxide cleanser, though fairly gentle, is misleading to consumers because medicated cleansers are generally ineffective for doing anything but removing debris from the skin's surface. They won't exfoliate or disinfect within the pore. The reason why is due to the short period of time that the medication is left on the face. When people let medicated cleanser sit on the face in hopes of giving the medication a chance to work, they are also giving the surfectants in the cleanser time to irritate the skin. With salicylic acid or alpha hydroxy acid cleansers, the problem of pH is added. Most cleansers have a pH of around 5 or 5, which is too high for the acids to act as anything but a water-binding agent. From what I understand the ProActive cleanser also contains micro-beads to gently exfoliate the skin. These beads do gently exfoliate, but again, only on the skin's surface, not within the pore.

The ProActive toner uses glycolic acid to chemically exfoliate the skin. However, salicylic acid would be a better option because unlike alpha hydroxy acids (which is what glycolic acid is categorized as), salicylic acid, a beta hydroxy acid, can exfoliate within the pore. The formulation also includes witch hazel, which is a skin irritant.

The ProActive Repairing Lotion is a good 2.5% benzoyl peroxide lotion. Aside from the fragrance it contains, it is a fairly gentle product.

ProActive fails to include a broad-spectrum sunscreen with an SPF 15 or higher in the three-step system, even though benzoyl peroxide increases one's sensitivity to the sun. When using ProActive, make sure you wear a sunscreen which contains at least one of the ingredients titanium dioxide, tinosorb, zinc oxide, avobenzone, and mexoryl sx. If your sunscreen doesn't contain at least one of those ingredients, it does not provide adequate UVA protection and is putting your skin at risk for sun damage.

snow queen,

 

this is more of a general question. i just bought neutrogena's ultra-sheer dry-touch sunblock. should i apply it over existing active pimples?? i always feel like putting on sunblock could lead to further breakout. i especially try to avoid putting it on my nose (that's my problem area).

thanks!

 

Hello Snow Queen. i thought maybe you didn't see my post above? i know it's kind of a stupid question, but it'd be great if you could give an answer for me.

thanks!

 

 

So whats so bad about menthol? I been using Oxy chill factor 10% BP with Menthol and it feels good.Could it be making my face worse?

 

 

Menthol is a derivative of peppermint and, like peppermint, it is categorized as a counter-irritant. In some products, like Gold-Bond's, menthol is used to create irritation in one area of the skin to relieve irritation in another. The problem is that this "purposeful" rritation still damages the skin. If the skin needs relief from irritation, the temporary use of a mild treatment, like hydrocortisone products, is preferred.

 

In acne and oily skin care products, menthol is used to make the consumer think a product is working by creating a cooling/tingly sensation. The fact that you can feel such a sensation indicates that the menthol is damaging your skin and possibly making your complexion worse.

 

So by switching from the 10%BP with menthol to a regular 10%BP wash do you think it will help me out alot?

Here is Oxy 10%BP daily wash what do you think?Also what kind of wash do you perfer?

Ingredients

Active Ingredients

Benzoyl Peroxide 10%

Inactive Ingredients

Citric Acid; Cocamidopropyl Betaine; Diazolidinyl Urea; Methylparaben; Propylparaben; Sodium Citrate; Sodium Cocoyl Isethionate; Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate; Water; Xanthan Gum

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I have a question: why shouldn't i buy a moisturizer that is in cream form????

snow queen,

 

this is more of a general question. i just bought neutrogena's ultra-sheer dry-touch sunblock. should i apply it over existing active pimples?? i always feel like putting on sunblock could lead to further breakout. i especially try to avoid putting it on my nose (that's my problem area).

thanks!

 

 

Hello Snow Queen. i thought maybe you didn't see my post above? i know it's kind of a stupid question, but it'd be great if you could give an answer for me.

thanks!

 

Oops, you're right; I didn't see your question. I'm sorry about that, and I don't think you're question's stupid because a lot of people worry about sunscreen causing or worsening breakouts.

You should always apply sunscreen over any area of exposed skin, and that includes over breakouts. You see, a pimple is already irritating and damaging to the skin. There's no reason to expose a breakout to the additional damage caused by unprotected sun exposure as well; the trick is finding a sunscreen not likely to clog pores, and it is my understanding that very few people have problems with the sunscreen you're using.

Also, breakouts don't happen overnight (they typically take around two weeks to form), so don't freak out if you use sunscreen and breakout within the next few days. Even if you breakout a few weeks after applying sunscreen, your breakout wasn't necessarily caused by your sunscreen- it could have been caused by hormonal changes, changes in the weather, other products you've been using, etc....

 

 

So whats so bad about menthol? I been using Oxy chill factor 10% BP with Menthol and it feels good.Could it be making my face worse?

 

 

Menthol is a derivative of peppermint and, like peppermint, it is categorized as a counter-irritant. In some products, like Gold-Bond's, menthol is used to create irritation in one area of the skin to relieve irritation in another. The problem is that this "purposeful" rritation still damages the skin. If the skin needs relief from irritation, the temporary use of a mild treatment, like hydrocortisone products, is preferred.

 

In acne and oily skin care products, menthol is used to make the consumer think a product is working by creating a cooling/tingly sensation. The fact that you can feel such a sensation indicates that the menthol is damaging your skin and possibly making your complexion worse.

 

 

So by switching from the 10%BP with menthol to a regular 10%BP wash do you think it will help me out alot?

 

Here is Oxy 10%BP daily wash what do you think?Also what kind of wash do you perfer?

 

Ingredients

Active Ingredients

Benzoyl Peroxide 10%

Inactive Ingredients

Citric Acid; Cocamidopropyl Betaine; Diazolidinyl Urea; Methylparaben; Propylparaben; Sodium Citrate; Sodium Cocoyl Isethionate; Sodium Lauroyl Sarcosinate; Water; Xanthan Gum

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Medicated cleansers are generally no more effective for treating acne than regular cleansers because most of the medication gets washed down the drain. Leave-on disinfecting products are much more effective.

You could use a 10% benzoyl peroxide leave-on product, but research suggests that weaker concentrations of benzoly peroxide are more effective than stronger concentrations because they are less irritating to the skin (and irritation can actually worsen acne problems). I suggest that you use a 5% benzoyl peroxide product such as Oxy Balance Sensitive Skin Acne Treatment, or a 2.5% benzoyl peroxide product, such as Dan's CSR Gel. However, if you're absolutely set on a 10% benzoyl peroxide product, try Zapzyt or Persagel 10 (though you really shouldn't be using a 10% benzoyl peroxide product if you exfoliate prior to applying the disinfectant).

I have a question: why shouldn't i buy a moisturizer that is in cream form????

 

Creams are more likely to contain waxy thickeners, which can clog pores. However, not everyone breaks out from the same things, so if you've been using a cream for a while and haven't noticed any increases in breakouts, you're product probably is fine for you to use (provided it doesn't contain unnecessary skin irritants).

hi, snowqueen

i'm reading your thread on regular basis, but i haven't had the need to ask you anything up until now, b/c i'm also learning to read the ingredients and choose my products based on them.

well, now i have a question

i was moving last week and packing and unpacking found a bottle of i.d. barevitamins skin rev-er upper, that i got with my bareminerals starter's kit. i never used it before, but now that i found it i'm triggered w/ the amount of salicylic acid in this product, and i was thinking of incorporating a salicylic acid product to my regimen. so it seems to me that this is really good product, with quite a few water-binding agents, vitamin a and e, and no potential irritants and pore-cloggers, according to paula's ingredient list. but, the only thing that i'm not sure of, b/c the product does not state the strength of the salicylic acid and ph, and considering the presence of so many other ingredients, is: is it capable of exfoliation?

and i'm also curious why they put in a cleansing agent (saponaria officinalis)

i'm guessing that, considering the amount of SA, it will do a good job, but i'm interested in your opinion on this product.

ingredients:

Purified water (aqua)

PPG-14 butyl ether

Cetyl Dimethicone

Methyl Gluceth-20

Salicylic Acid

Glyceril stearate

cetearyl alcohol

avena sativa (oat) kernel extract

saponaria officinalis extract

vitus vinifera (grape) fruit extract

mel (honey) extract

retinyl palmitate

tocopheryl acetate

sodium hyaluronate

panthenol

bisabolol

allantoin

PEG-100 stearate

ceteareth-20

glycolic acid

magnesium aluminium silicate

sodium hydroxide

xanthan gum

diazolidinyl urea

tetrasodium EDTA

methylparaben

propylparaben

i've put it on this morning and i very much like how light it is and how fast it absorbs. though i do still need to use a moisturizer on some parts of my face.

hi, snowqueen

i'm reading your thread on regular basis, but i haven't had the need to ask you anything up until now, b/c i'm also learning to read the ingredients and choose my products based on them.

well, now i have a question

i was moving last week and packing and unpacking found a bottle of i.d. barevitamins skin rev-er upper, that i got with my bareminerals starter's kit. i never used it before, but now that i found it i'm triggered w/ the amount of salicylic acid in this product, and i was thinking of incorporating a salicylic acid product to my regimen. so it seems to me that this is really good product, with quite a few water-binding agents, vitamin a and e, and no potential irritants and pore-cloggers, according to paula's ingredient list. but, the only thing that i'm not sure of, b/c the product does not state the strength of the salicylic acid and ph, and considering the presence of so many other ingredients, is: is it capable of exfoliation?

and i'm also curious why they put in a cleansing agent (saponaria officinalis)

i'm guessing that, considering the amount of SA, it will do a good job, but i'm interested in your opinion on this product.

 

ingredients:

Purified water (aqua)

PPG-14 butyl ether

Cetyl Dimethicone

Methyl Gluceth-20

Salicylic Acid

Glyceril stearate

cetearyl alcohol

avena sativa (oat) kernel extract

saponaria officinalis extract

vitus vinifera (grape) fruit extract

mel (honey) extract

retinyl palmitate

tocopheryl acetate

sodium hyaluronate

panthenol

bisabolol

allantoin

PEG-100 stearate

ceteareth-20

glycolic acid

magnesium aluminium silicate

sodium hydroxide

xanthan gum

diazolidinyl urea

tetrasodium EDTA

methylparaben

propylparaben

 

i've put it on this morning and i very much like how light it is and how fast it absorbs. though i do still need to use a moisturizer on some parts of my face.

 

I'm glad to know that you've learned how to identify good products for yourself; part of the reason I made this thread is so that people will know how to make smart choices in skincare products.

The Skin Rever-Upper shouldn't irritate your skin, but I apologize that I can't tell you what concentration of salicylic acid this product contains or what its pH is. I contacted Bare Escentuals and asked them what the product's pH is and what its concentration of salicylic acid is, but I can't guarantee that I'll get a reply. If they don't respond to my written request for information by Monday, I'll try my luck calling. I also searched Paula's site for the product, but couldn't find any information on it. So, I'm guessing Paula hasn't reviewed this product yet or is in the process of reviewing it.

In the meantime, I can tell you that since salicylic acid is fairly high up on the ingredients list, it likely does contain an adequate amount. However, if the product's pH is too high (over 4), the salicylic acid, even if it is in an adequate amount, will act as a water-binding agent rather than an exfoliant. You can order pH testing strips online and test this product yourself; maybe you've already used them in a past science class. You should, though, treat any results obtained from pH testing strips as an indicator of what a product's pH is somewhat close to; professional pH testing is much more accurate than at-home pH testing.

To answer your other question, many toner-type products contain gentle cleansing agents to help the skin look and feel cleaner than it would from using a cleanser alone (Paula's Choice toners also contain cleaning agents). This product is meant to help makeup go on better, and makeup goes on better over clean skin, which is why I think the cleansing agent listed is included.

great!

thanx

i've got one more question

since you talk about this nivea visage toner all the time, i went out and bought it

i checked the ingredients at drugstore.com, but they are different, which is what usually happens w/ products for u.s. market and products for european market

so, here is mine

Water, Glycerin, PEG-8, Panthenol, Chamomilla Recutital, Aloe Barbadensis, Polyquaternium-10, Niacinamide, Propylene Glycol, PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor Oil, Ethoxydiglycol, Trisodium EDTA, Citric acid, Potassium sorbate, Sodium benzoate, Methylparaben, Polyaminopropyl Biguanide, Propylparaben, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, Geraniol, Hydroxyisohexyl 3-Cyclohexene Carboxaldehyde, Limonene, Cinnamyl alcohol, Alpha-Isomethyl Ionone, Hydroxycitronellal, Benzyl salicylate, Linalool, Parfum

What worries me here is the number of ingredients i cannot even pronounce, and cannot find on Paula's website, which leads to another question: which other online references do you use when checking the ingredients?

and also what do you think about these cleansers? i'm having a hard time finding a good cleanser here, and all the cleansers available are not discussed either here or at paula's website

so, i was looking around and can't decide between a couple of them

which one would u choose?

here are my options:

eucerin sensitive skin line called ph5 (it's not available in the states i think), but this cleanser is meant for both body and face, so that's what concerns me

Aqua, Sodium Cocoamphoacetate, Sodium Myreth of sulfates, Lauryl Glucoside, Citric Acid, PEG-40 Hydrogenated Castor oil, PEG-200 Hydrogenated Glyceryl Palmate, Coco Glucoside, Glycol Distearate, Glycerin, Polyquaternium-10, Diammonium CIT rate, Sodium Benzoate, Sodium of Salicylate, Linalool, Butylphenyl Methylpropional, alpha ISO methyl Ionone, Hexyl Cinnamal, Parfum

other eucerin options available here are:

impure skin cleansing gel:

Aqua, Sodium Cocoamphoacetate, Propylene Glycol, Sodium Laureth of sulfates, Citric Acid, Sodium Benzoate, Salicylic Acid, Sodium of chloride

they seem to like this sodium cocoamphoacetate thingy

other cleansers that i was looking at:

nivea visage gentle facial wash

Aqua (Water), Glycerin, Sodium Laureth Sulfate, Sodium Carbomer, Sodium Methyl Cocoyl Taurate, Peg-7 Glyceryl Cocoate, Decyl Glucoside, Sodium Lactate, Sodium PCA, Xanthan Gum, Lactic Acid, Urea, Sodium Benzoate, Fructose, Glycine, Inositol, Niacinamide, Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Butylparaben, Ethylparaben, Isobutylparaben, Propylparaben, Benzophenone-4, Parfum (Fragrance), CI 42090 , CI 16035

and

johnson's gently exfoliating facial wash

Aqua, Glycerin, Polyethylene, Sodium Laureth sulfate, Acrylates/C10-30 alkyl Acrylate Crosspolymer, Lauryl Glucoside, Glycol Distearate, Laureth-4, Cocamidopropyl Betaine, Sodium Hydroxide, Tetrasodium EDTA, Phenoxyethanol, Methylparaben, Parfum

(i tried this one - my friend's got it, and the beads are so tiny and gentle, it's almost like they're not there)

my skin is, well, combination, i guess - slightly oily jaw line and nose, very dry around nose and mouth, normal cheeks, and forehead that tends to go from slightly oily to dry depending on it's mood. but i'm above all regarding my skin as sensitive, so what i need from a cleanser is not to dry me out or irritate

thank you!

ok this just got me more confused.. this acne buisness is just stressful man! im sure people back then didnt have these stuff and theyre fin! i dnt know why were going crazy over this.. im just jadded ryt now man..