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On 6/4/2022 at 11:54 PM, wombatstaywoke said:Before peel, I didn't use anything special. I just prepped my skin with kojic acid and vitamin c the week before. This is because I have ethnic skin and massive precaution is taken to reduce PIH.
After peel, it's basically just following the protocol that's outlined in the post-op doc: stay out of the sun, applying the special ointment (see main thread), and using a gentle, pH neutral cleanser.
The redness will go away with time so there's no real need for any kind of laser. Redness lasts for 3-4 months depending on most. It's really just best to wait it out!
Salute to you for going through this . Your really helping out the community for us sufferers . Can we get an update on how your progress is going ?
as far as your cheeks man I see such huge improvement to the point I wouldnt let it bother you like that I would be so happy if I had that improvement . As far as hyperpigmentation. Why dont you look into v beam . It helped me alot when I had PIH and its treats flushing as well which you described before . Also I think being darker is better then being lighter with acne scarring . Scars are way more visible in lighter people and sticks out more . Consider yourself lucky in that aspect . The community really appreciates your journals/journey man
1 hour ago, laserorange said:@wombatstaywokeany special stuff u did before and after the peel to optimize healing? did u have to get vbeams at some point for persistent redness?
Before peel, I didn't use anything special. I just prepped my skin with kojic acid and vitamin c the week before. This is because I have ethnic skin and massive precaution is taken to reduce PIH.
After peel, it's basically just following the protocol that's outlined in the post-op doc: stay out of the sun, applying the special ointment (see main thread), and using a gentle, pH neutral cleanser.
The redness will go away with time so there's no real need for any kind of laser. Redness lasts for 3-4 months depending on most. It's really just best to wait it out!
Hey! Hope you're holding up well. My phenol is scheduled for dec 19. Just wondering, how soon after phenol did you begin working out again? Has the pigment issues improved? did you end up doing pico?
Hi. Thank you so much for sharing your experience with other scar sufferers. So well-put and documented. For me anyone who has undergone this procedure is a hero. Do you have any additional thoughts maybe? Do you see any further improvement now that you are getting closer to the one year post mark?
Edit: Just wanted to add.. I was having a good look at your photos and the improvement is really great in my opinion! Your right side is almost scarfree.
Sorry! It's been a minute since I've been on this forum but I'd like to get a touch up done in the next year or two. I'm content with my results but think a second phenol peel will add further improvement although I could live entirely guilt free with what I have now.
I'm looking to do at home microneedling and maybe some light TCA peels at home since I'm trying to tone down on the skin procedures.
On 6/4/2022 at 11:54 PM, wombatstaywoke said:Before peel, I didn't use anything special. I just prepped my skin with kojic acid and vitamin c the week before. This is because I have ethnic skin and massive precaution is taken to reduce PIH.
After peel, it's basically just following the protocol that's outlined in the post-op doc: stay out of the sun, applying the special ointment (see main thread), and using a gentle, pH neutral cleanser.
The redness will go away with time so there's no real need for any kind of laser. Redness lasts for 3-4 months depending on most. It's really just best to wait it out!
Salute to you for going through this . Your really helping out the community for us sufferers . Can we get an update on how your progress is going ?
as far as your cheeks man I see such huge improvement to the point I wouldnt let it bother you like that I would be so happy if I had that improvement . As far as hyperpigmentation. Why dont you look into v beam . It helped me alot when I had PIH and its treats flushing as well which you described before . Also I think being darker is better then being lighter with acne scarring . Scars are way more visible in lighter people and sticks out more . Consider yourself lucky in that aspect . The community really appreciates your journals/journey man
Hi there! I'm fairly content with the progress so far as I'm currently at the one year mark. I really don't notice my scars as much although as I've said, they're still there. I just don't notice them as much since they've softened a lot. Currently looking to do at home microneedling and a series of light TCA peels to help with PIH.
I would like to do a touch up phenol peel but for now that'll have to wait a year or two.
@wombatstaywoke hello! Thank you for sharing your journey. I had a virtual consult with Dr. Rullan. I live in TX. Will fly to him. He told me that I needed phenol cross, subcision, and erbium. He told me patients fly in the same day, do procedure, and leave same day. I understand that for you, this was not feasible. This may be a silly question, but the is the downtime and swelling severity worse for a phenol peel versus what than my suggested treatment plan (phen cross, subcision, and erbium)? Rullan and all his staff said I could go back home the same day, but now I'm scared. I assume a full phenol chemical peel is more severe than what I need, but I'm not sure. Could you confirm? Thabk you for all your help! How are you dping now?
@kelly4 Hi Kelly! That seems really odd. The "trio" procedure as he likes to call it isn't as aggressive as phenol peel. No where even close. If you were to go with the trio I would imagine you can hop on your flight back to TX afterwards but I think that might be too difficult given travel logistics. For phenol, you would need at least 3-4 days max in the San Diego/Chula Vista area for phenol. The pain will be too severe. Unless of course you're comfortable with medical tape all over your face.
Sorry! It's been a minute since I've been on this forum but I'd like to get a touch up done in the next year or two. I'm content with my results but think a second phenol peel will add further improvement although I could live entirely guilt free with what I have now.
I'm looking to do at home microneedling and maybe some light TCA peels at home since I'm trying to tone down on the skin procedures.
I hear you. The phenol peel is no magic treatment, but it does give a lot of improvement at once. It is interesting if a second peel could bring one closer to the desired results. I am thinking about getting the treatment myself, after I already have various combination procedures.
If I may ask, do you have an idea or a plan, where / with which dermatologist you are going to have the phenol touch up? As far as I know the respected Dr Rullan will be retiring shortly - a great loss for all, I am sure.
I've actually started the quotation however I currently have a personal matter that I'm attending to so I'll have to put my plan for a touchup on hold for the time being.
I am in contact with Dr. Rullan's office as well another dermatologist in the greater LA area. I want it done asap but I'm not in a rush to be honest.
@vitaminche
I see. Is the touch up another full phenol peel, or some kind of partial treatment only, if I may ask? I sincerely hope for you to get further results and improve your skin to the degree that you feel comfortable and happy with it. Thank you once again for sharing your experience with the forum!
I will look for dermatologists or plastic surgeons in Europe, since Dr Rullan is retiring.
The problem is that those that I have found to offer the phenol peel, dont perform it in combination with scar subcision, which is the better option for me than the phenol peel alone.
I see. Is the touch up another full phenol peel, or some kind of partial treatment only, if I may ask? I sincerely hope for you to get further results and improve your skin to the degree that you feel comfortable and happy with it. Thank you once again for sharing your experience with the forum!
I will look for dermatologists or plastic surgeons in Europe, since Dr Rullan is retiring.
The problem is that those that I have found to offer the phenol peel, dont perform it in combination with scar subcision, which is the better option for me than the phenol peel alone.
How do you say Dr.Rullan is retiring soon? Did the office confirm a date?
I see. Is the touch up another full phenol peel, or some kind of partial treatment only, if I may ask? I sincerely hope for you to get further results and improve your skin to the degree that you feel comfortable and happy with it. Thank you once again for sharing your experience with the forum!
I will look for dermatologists or plastic surgeons in Europe, since Dr Rullan is retiring.
The problem is that those that I have found to offer the phenol peel, dont perform it in combination with scar subcision, which is the better option for me than the phenol peel alone.
How do you say Dr.Rullan is retiring soon? Did the office confirm a date?
Chiming in on this...when I was there for a trio a few months ago, I told Dr. Rullan I heard on Acne.org that he is retiring and asked him if it is true. He responded and said that he is only planning on working less and taking more time off.
I see. Is the touch up another full phenol peel, or some kind of partial treatment only, if I may ask? I sincerely hope for you to get further results and improve your skin to the degree that you feel comfortable and happy with it. Thank you once again for sharing your experience with the forum!
I will look for dermatologists or plastic surgeons in Europe, since Dr Rullan is retiring.
The problem is that those that I have found to offer the phenol peel, dont perform it in combination with scar subcision, which is the better option for me than the phenol peel alone.
How do you say Dr.Rullan is retiring soon? Did the office confirm a date?
Chiming in on this...when I was there for a trio a few months ago, I told Dr. Rullan I heard on Acne.org that he is retiring and asked him if it is true. He responded and said that he is only planning on working less and taking more time off.
Ah, thanks for the info. That's a great news. Thanks Dr. Rullan for the lifetime commitment to acne scar sufferers.
Regarding Dr Rullans retirement, a few months ago a fellow forum member on another thread shared that Dr Rullan was retiring around February this year, according to information from his secretary. There was a discussion about other doctors in the US who perform the peel.
It is good news that that he is only planning on working less. It is new to me, and I am glad about it.