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56 minutes ago, NuageBlanche said:Does anybody know when you go to see Dr Emil for an initial consult, and have treatment done, do you pay the consultation fee plus price for the treatment or just for the treatment? I know a lot of Dr deduct the fee if you have treatments on the same day.
thanks
Consultation fee is deducted from treatment price.
After some research on the doctor and on the treatments I was interested in, last week I visited the clinic of Dr. Emil in Odense.
I got very positive impressions about everything - from getting the appointment, through the consultation to the treatment itself.
Dr. Henningsenfirst suggested subcision plus sialine injections as a spacer and Genius RF, but I was still not 100% sure about the energy device so thatI got just subcision plus Belotero filler in the end.
The procedure itself was a bit painful as he injected the anaesthetic, but otherwise very tolerable and not the complete blood bath I know from previous treatments with nokor subcision. He also advised me on how to massage the fillers properly in order not to get any lumps or other issues.
It's been a week since the treatment, the swelling is all gone now, as well as the light yellowish discoloration on the areas that he subcised. I had no bruising with the canula technique, which is great as I had to go back to work today. Now that the swelling is gone, I can assess the results for the first time, and I must say I am very happy with the results so far. I know I cannot have perfect skin and that the filling will dissolve with time, but my worst scars are more even now and I am just enjoying the improvement as long as itlasts.
For the next time I will maybe try Genius RF if I overcome my fear of lasers.He said that Genius will take care of my textural issues like small Icepicks and small bocxar scars. Or maybe TCA CROSS, we'll see what he'll recommend. I didn't want to have TCA CROSS this time because I only had 6 days to recover and I know it takes for me more time for the scabs to fall off. I am also interested in Phenol CROSS, but cannot find a gooddoctor in Europe.He also suggested Radiesse or Sculptra for collagen boost, Iam researching and consider them for later maybe.
Overall I had very positive experience. The doctor is competent, caring and actually listens to your concerns and what treatments you are interested in and doesn't just insist on his recommendations. He is also the first derm, who saw my rosacea, and indeed I do have rosacea in a lightform.
Positive impression from the whole clinic. I'll definitely be re-booking my appointment in 3 to 6 months.In my opinion it's worth the travel to Denmark to get good treatment.
I *think* there are fake reviews on the net about Emil. On google, he have numerous 5 star reviews, but most of the people who give the stars have made only one review. There is one, Joseph designs who have given more reviews, but only with Emil he write something down.
Also here on the forum there were 2 posters who just came out of the blue to tell their super positive experience with Emil. And they were gone after that.
Dunno, it smells fishy to me.
4 hours ago, Noa27 said:I *think* there are fake reviews on the net about Emil. On google, he have numerous 5 star reviews, but most of the people who give the stars have made only one review. There is one, Joseph designs who have given more reviews, but only with Emil he write something down.
Also here on the forum there were 2 posters who just came out of the blue to tell their super positive experience with Emil. And they were gone after that.
Dunno, it smells fishy to me.
Well if you dont trust reviews , important is your own experience , you re being treated by Dr Emil , so whats your opinion, how many treatments have undergone with him , and what is your results ?
I ve done subc twice and now i am going to do Microneedling RF , so far there are results.
Its true however , that it looks weird, when people stop posting about their progress, John Marston f.e. promised that he will post new pics and nothing, i wrote him PM and he said he s very happy with treatment so far, but nothing more.
I am in the middle of the treatments with Emil. I have done 1cannulaSub plus filler, 1 Sub with the usual needle with the filler, 1 usual needle Sub with some cannula in places with the filler, Botox droplets to the forehead scars and laser to the edges of one scar. I see that the scars are smoother, a bit flatter... but the one scar became even more bigger and wider still with the same edges...another one after the laser seems more close to the surrounding skin after 1,5mnth...so not much to post.. I intend to do a couple more treatments probably to consider punch elevation and rf.
15 hours ago, Miro said:Well if you dont trust reviews , important is your own experience , you re being treated by Dr Emil , so whats your opinion, how many treatments have undergone with him , and what is your results ?
I ve done subc twice and now i am going to do Microneedling RF , so far there are results.
Its true however , that it looks weird, when people stop posting about their progress, John Marston f.e. promised that he will post new pics and nothing, i wrote him PM and he said he s very happy with treatment so far, but nothing more.
True. Dr. Henningsen is a nice doctor and I have positive results from my treatments with him 
On 11/4/2019 at 6:12 PM, Guest said:Hi Lili
I understand your worries very well. I am the same. I have had procedures that made my skin worse ( Dr. Anil and a laser trearment) and now I am extremely apprehensive when it comes to complications.
All I know about the fillers not being an option is from Professor Chu. He told me a story of a patient who had fillers and something went wrong and she ended upwith a lump for life ( it was a permanent filler). He says that fillers basically defeat the purpose of scar correction bc they are just a temporary solution and being in place don't allow for collagen to form in the treated scars. I don't know. So far I've trusted him. After all he is known to be one of the best scar specialists worldwide.
As for the subcision. Yes I've had results with areas that were tethered down. They elevated ok after 1-2 subcisions, but some other atrophic scars didn't improve much. I wonder if it is because Chu uses nokor needles and no canula??
Where have you seen people saying they are satisfied with fillers here? Can you please give me the links? Are they patients of Dr. Emil?
I don't know I am beginning to lose faith a little :(( I read all those positive results from the 1 and the 2nd treatment and then people just disappear :(( So I guess they are not very happy with the results.
I would really love to read something from the people from this tread if they have the time to write a few lines. In my sitiation I have to travel to Dr. Emil to get treated. Have to sacrifice my holiday and spend a lot of money. I really don't know if it's worth all the stress :((
But if you are worried about subcision alone I wouldn't be in your place - in the hands if an experienced dermatologist it is a safe and one of the most effective for scars procedures. I've had a small lump from subcision once but I massaged it and it disappeared. I have also had extensive bleeding and bruising too because I was on blood thinning agents but it was all ok in the end. So if you are only worried about subcision alone without fillers I would say give it a go. I trust Dr. Emil knowd what he's doing with the needle.
I've read that youtube comment about a 2 hour ago when i was searching for subcision somebody claimed her face looks uneven after the subcision it might be true what Dr. Chu says, i dont know im not expert.
11 hours ago, tomwaits said:I've read that youtube comment about a 2 hour ago when i was searching for subcision somebody claimed her face looks uneven after the subcision it might be true what Dr. Chu says, i dont know im not expert.
For me I've tried sub plus ha filler and the filler did yield improvement. But it lasted only for 3 months and being only temporary it's not worth the money. 
7 hours ago, Stef3000 said:
What did Dr. chu say ?
"All Iknow about the fillers not being an option is from ProfessorChu.Hetold me a story of a patient who had fillers and somethingwent wrong and she ended upwith a lump for life( it was a permanent filler). He says that fillersbasically defeat the purpose of scar correctionbctheyarejust atemporary solution and being in place don't allowfor collagen to form in the treated scars."
3 hours ago, tomwaits said:He says that fillersbasically defeat the purpose of scar correctionbctheyarejust atemporary solution and being in place don't allowfor collagen to form in the treated scars."
Not to be rude to the doctor's comment, butcollagen can only do so much. When you have fat atrophy, which is what atrophic scars are, no amount of treatment can effectively fill the missing fat. That's when you need to rely on fillers.
9 hours ago, Sirius Lee said:Not to be rude to the doctor's comment, butcollagen can only do so much. When you have fat atrophy, which is what atrophic scars are, no amount of treatment can effectively fill the missing fat. That's when you need to rely on fillers.
I second that opinion. Fillers do work. The scars smooth out for about a month. Then the scars re-appear. In 3 months all the filler is gone. ( I had HA filler)
So you need to top up every 3 to 4 months for optimal results if you have the money and are willing to risk possible side effects of the filler.
For me personally it's not an option, unfortunately.
Dr can use
13 hours ago, Sirius Lee said:Not to be rude to the doctor's comment, butcollagen can only do so much. When you have fat atrophy, which is what atrophic scars are, no amount of treatment can effectively fill the missing fat. That's when you need to rely on fillers.
4 hours ago, BlueMaloney said:I second that opinion. Fillers do work. The scars smooth out for about a month. Then the scars re-appear. In 3 months all the filler is gone. ( I had HA filler)
So you need to top up every 3 to 4 months for optimal results if you have the money and are willing to risk possible side effects of the filler.
For me personally it's not an option, unfortunately.
Doctor can use filler that lasts 12 months , sometimes littlemore, even Dr Lim said in one of his videos that subcision and filler is bread and butter in scars revison,.
Sirius Lee is right if theres fat atrophy, which probably there always is if there are deeper scars,the only way for dramatic improvement is to use filler, simply because fat atrophy or fat loss in acne scars cannot be replaced with nothing but filler.
I red once on internet one guy said he did everythig in acne scars revision journey : subcision with filler, Infini, peels, Cross, Laser at the end of his route and he got improvement 40-50% , now once in 12 -18 months he visits his dermatologist , he performs subcision and filler on some deeper dents and thats it, he repeats it when filler dissolves.
Nowadays medicine can do that much.
1 hour ago, Miro said:Dr can use
Doctor can use filler that lasts 12 months , sometimes littlemore, even Dr Lim said in one of his videos that subcision and filler is bread and butter in scars revison,.
Sirius Lee is right if theres fat atrophy, which probably there always is if there are deeper scars,the only way for dramatic improvement is to use filler, simply because fat atrophy or fat loss in acne scars cannot be replaced with nothing but filler.
I red once on internet one guy said he did everythig in acne scars revision journey : subcision with filler, Infini, peels, Cross, Laser at the end of his route and he got improvement 40-50% , now once in 12 -18 months he visits his dermatologist , he performs subcision and filler on some deeper dents and thats it, he repeats it when filler dissolves.
Nowadays medicine can do that much.
I agree with you. That's why I went for sub plus HA filler right away. What I didn't expect is the Restalyne filler to dissolve in 3 months. The marketing says it lasts up to 12 months too. Now I'm looking into more semi-permanent fillers like Sculptra etc. What I wanted to ask you is if you're speaking from experience ( you had fillers, Sculptra with Dr Emil) or just in general when you talk about improvement?
I read that Dr Emil has been offeringthe Genius RF technology for a few months now. Has anyone had this procedure done? Did you have good results? Thanks
On 6/4/2020 at 6:12 PM, BlueMaloney said:I agree with you. That's why I went for sub plus HA filler right away. What I didn't expect is the Restalyne filler to dissolve in 3 months. The marketing says it lasts up to 12 months too. Now I'm looking into more semi-permanent fillers like Sculptra etc. What I wanted to ask you is if you're speaking from experience ( you had fillers, Sculptra with Dr Emil) or just in general when you talk about improvement?
I read that Dr Emil has been offeringthe Genius RF technology for a few months now. Has anyone had this procedure done? Did you have good results? Thanks
had it 3 times with emil. Had nice results.
14 minutes ago, diskursen said:had it 3 times with emil. Had nice results.
Great to hear. I've never been to Dr Emil but I am looking into Genius RF and Sculptra or Radiesse that he's offering so I might book in next year.
How many months apart did you have the GenRF? What scars improved the most and by how much %?
To everybody who might be interested. I went to Dr.Emil yesterday for another treatment. To repeat some Subcision+ filler and to laser the edges of the main scars(most seenin indirect light). I had a success with 1 scar after Sub and the Erbiumlaser on the edges so decided to follow this route and to do all other scars.
I painted the edges of the scars exactly how I see them(with Iodium)and Dr.Emil was very carefull doingthe Erbium. I was lookingat the mirror checkingwhere it was missed - to do a bit more. So accuratejoint work done, burning(sanding the edges).Sub was repeated in some places as well.
Now just to heal(will take at least a month) and see. 50% of the result depends of the provider and 50% of your own healing properties. I am rather bad healer then good. Hope to get an improvement.
Denmark is open, the situation with the virus is calmin Odense, the mask is optional and nobody wears it.It is obligatory to wear the mask at the airport and this suits me just well)because after lasering 14 scars edges in total the face looks... well u all know how it looks after the treatment)..
So everyone who is thinking travelling to Dr.Emil to Denmark- it is all ok, very clean airport, train, the clinic is immaculate. Dr.Emil is as usual caring, listening to the patient, another positive visit..
This sounds great. What kind of filler did you have? Speedy recovery!
3 hours ago, Sibel said:To everybody who might be interested. I went to Dr.Emil yesterday for another treatment. To repeat some Subcision+ filler and to laser the edges of the main scars(most seenin indirect light). I had a success with 1 scar after Sub and the Erbiumlaser on the edges so decided to follow this route and to do all other scars.
I painted the edges of the scars exactly how I see them(with Iodium)and Dr.Emil was very carefull doingthe Erbium. I was lookingat the mirror checkingwhere it was missed - to do a bit more. So accuratejoint work done, burning(sanding the edges).Sub was repeated in some places as well.
Now just to heal(will take at least a month) and see. 50% of the result depends of the provider and 50% of your own healing properties. I am rather bad healer then good. Hope to get an improvement.
Denmark is open, the situation with the virus is calmin Odense, the mask is optional and nobody wears it.It is obligatory to wear the mask at the airport and this suits me just well)because after lasering 14 scars edges in total the face looks... well u all know how it looks after the treatment)..So everyone who is thinking travelling to Dr.Emil to Denmark- it is all ok, very clean airport, train, the clinic is immaculate. Dr.Emil is as usual caring, listening to the patient, another positive visit..
This sounds great. What kind of filler did you have? Speedy recovery.
1. After 1Sub and all previous treatments, not much change at all.
2. After 2Sub.
3. After 3Sub and laser on the edges of the round scar on the cheekbone.
4. Laser on the edges of the other scars.
you can see that the floor has been lifted and the round scar became almost flat.
There is some make up on all 3 pics. The angle is slightly different, u know it is hard to catch the same angle.
There are a lot of other scars.. but these ones are the most disturbing under the eye..
Despite of my criticism that I've had about Dr. Henningsen in the past, I must say that I see positive results. It took quite a while to get these, I just wasn't patient enough I guess.
2 times subcision with filler and 1 time subcision with sculptra. I must see how it goes this year and after that because soon I have 2 little kids. I don't know how that will go financially. But since my scars are more level after the treatments I decide to do microneedling at home and see how that goes.
On 8/8/2020 at 2:56 AM, Sibel said:
1. After 1Sub and all previous treatments, not much change at all.
2. After 2Sub.3. After 3Sub and laser on the edges of the round scar on the cheekbone.
4. Laser on the edges of the other scars.
you can see that the floor has been lifted and the round scar became almost flat.There is some make up on all 3 pics. The angle is slightly different, u know it is hard to catch the same angle.
There are a lot of other scars.. but these ones are the most disturbing under the eye..
Really nice improvement! The round scar has improved A LOT! The otheres have leveled out and look better, too! Thank you for sharing! Do you know what kind of laser Dr Henningsen uses? Is it the totally ablative or the fractional ablative? Is it the Erbium:YAG?