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2 hours ago, shei514 said:They are softer and blended a bit more into the skin and their edges are softer but their shape remains. This is after 30k at least worth of treatment so I doubt they will disappear. I have had laser resurfacing, the phenol, etc performed on them and they are still there so either I accept the damage is permanent or try other treatment methods like excision and I know a lot of people in this thread are very curious about excision too. I still think I can gain more improvement with them.
Nope excision is not the right option. the reason why excision doesn't make sense for shallow scarring throughout, is it wont make a difference to the end goal we are looking for, which is overall smooth skin. Unless that is the only scar that truly bothered you then you can target that. But again a smooth edge would be better than a dimpled excision dent. and then fillers can take it from there once the angle of the scar is slanting.
Excision only make sense for deep icepick and larger boxcar(i.e 2 or 3 icepick combined size depth) as this leaves a very shallow scar so a good trade off. For larger scars its better to blend the edge that is the most we can get for treatment when considering risk.
In my opinion your results are really good for harsh lighting. So i think the money is well spent. I strongly think you are emotionally scarred from the trauma of years of scars. Maybe if you would have shallow scars like this from the start without treatments you wouldn't have looked at the way you are looking now. I had the worst kind of scars which were harsh scar borders, these are the kind of scars that show in normal light i.e icepick, boxcar with sharp borders and rolling scars. But now they have improved but the emotional trauma is still there. The feeling that you mentioned that about people catching me.
@shei514can you let me know what foundation you use to cover the rough surface in general.
On 5/14/2022 at 1:00 PM, harmlessboy1441 said:Just a random question but did any of your doctors think any sort of careful dermabrasion (like even in certain spots) would help or is your situation either for texture or leftover scars, just too complicated as in underneath as well because dermabrasion can expose/aggravate underneath trauma sometimes is my guess based on what my old doctor said but idk.
I hate how my left side looks in harsh lighting too. I come home and in my mirror in my bathroom I don't see my scars too poorly. Then I go in my car, tilt my head left and it looks bad. I totally hate it.
No, no doctor has recommended that to me. But I am carefully considering what my next best move is.
The lighting changes are terrible and what it does to you mentally. I feel like we live in a world that is judgemental and superficial and to know you dont conform is a terrible feeling and to know your self-esteem can drop as soon as you see yourself cast in horrible lighting is such an awful feeling as well.
On 5/14/2022 at 1:10 PM, getsmart121 said:Nope excision is not the right option. the reason why excision doesn't make sense for shallow scarring throughout, is it wont make a difference to the end goal we are looking for, which is overall smooth skin. Unless that is the only scar that truly bothered you then you can target that. But again a smooth edge would be better than a dimpled excision dent. and then fillers can take it from there once the angle of the scar is slanting.
Excision only make sense for deep icepick and larger boxcar(i.e 2 or 3 icepick combined size depth) as this leaves a very shallow scar so a good trade off. For larger scars its better to blend the edge that is the most we can get for treatment when considering risk.
In my opinion your results are really good for harsh lighting. So i think the money is well spent. I strongly think you are emotionally scarred from the trauma of years of scars. Maybe if you would have shallow scars like this from the start without treatments you wouldn't have looked at the way you are looking now. I had the worst kind of scars which were harsh scar borders, these are the kind of scars that show in normal light i.e icepick, boxcar with sharp borders and rolling scars. But now they have improved but the emotional trauma is still there. The feeling that you mentioned that about people catching me.
Are my scars too wide to consider punch excision? There are a couple on my right side I hate more than anything and thought maybe punch excision could help. But I have never asked a dermatologist and usually just go for whatever they recommend is best. My scars are very white in the centre as well and dr rullan commented on this when he performed the peel but I do not remember what he said about them exactly as I was on drugs. I tried to book in with Dr Rullan (even tho I have limited money lol) but never got a reply from their office. What do you think is my next best move? And do you think I can still gain improvement? Or is this it for me
Yes the emotional trauma is there and its something I struggle with up and down. I have good days and bad ones. But like you have mentioned in the past, we become adjusted to what we look like after treatment and dont really think about the journey as a whole. At least I dont.
4 hours ago, getsmart121 said:@shei514can you let me know what foundation you use to cover the rough surface in general.
I use BB creams like missha, always use a lot of SPF and for foundation mac studio fix but foundation can make acne scarring look terrible lol so I mostly prefer BB creams. I also use primers like porefessional and smashbox photofinish.
29 minutes ago, shei514 said:No, no doctor has recommended that to me. But I am carefully considering what my next best move is.
The lighting changes are terrible and what it does to you mentally. I feel like we live in a world that is judgemental and superficial and to know you dont conform is a terrible feeling and to know your self-esteem can drop as soon as you see yourself cast in horrible lighting is such an awful feeling as well.
Are my scars too wide to consider punch excision? There are a couple on my right side I hate more than anything and thought maybe punch excision could help. But I have never asked a dermatologist and usually just go for whatever they recommend is best. My scars are very white in the centre as well and dr rullan commented on this when he performed the peel but I do not remember what he said about them exactly as I was on drugs. I tried to book in with Dr Rullan (even tho I have limited money lol) but never got a reply from their office. What do you think is my next best move? And do you think I can still gain improvement? Or is this it for me
Yes the emotional trauma is there and its something I struggle with up and down. I have good days and bad ones. But like you have mentioned in the past, we become adjusted to what we look like after treatment and dont really think about the journey as a whole. At least I dont.
I use BB creams like missha, always use a lot of SPF and for foundation mac studio fix but foundation can make acne scarring look terrible lol so I mostly prefer BB creams. I also use primers like porefessional and smashbox photofinish.
If you use windows then there is a paint application you can circle the area that you want to excise. But remember that the person looking at you is looking overall not one specific area per se. but I understand our perception. So one or two scars if this is really what u want. But trust me for few days you will be happy you fixed that bad scar and then again u will go back to thinking overall.
1 hour ago, shei514 said:No, no doctor has recommended that to me. But I am carefully considering what my next best move is.
The lighting changes are terrible and what it does to you mentally. I feel like we live in a world that is judgemental and superficial and to know you dont conform is a terrible feeling and to know your self-esteem can drop as soon as you see yourself cast in horrible lighting is such an awful feeling as well.
Yep, terrible feeling for sure. All of us feel it, varying degrees of course. Too bad the world is so superficial and perception based, almost like instinctually so rather than thinking about hey why are we valuing anatomy and random DNA outcomes over much more important things...
Ever since Amy left Dr. Rullans office, their responses via email have been horrible. I actually had to call them several times in order to book an appointment. @shei514
6 hours ago, Phoooo said:Ever since Amy left Dr. Rullans office, their responses via email have been horrible. I actually had to call them several times in order to book an appointment. @shei514
Yeah its actually terrible. You might get one reply but thats it and any attempt to follow up goes unnoticed. Im going to book in for June at this stage but Ill have to call.
1 hour ago, shei514 said:Natural lighting for my right cheek. Should I book a trio or is it a waste of money and in this lighting is excision a good option for me. I will be booking a treatment with rullan for June. I initially was hesitant but want to go through with this
I went to the beginning of this thread and you made insane progress. Congrats! I hope I can achieve the Same someday. I hope you can be at peace in your own mind someday
3 hours ago, shei514 said:Natural lighting for my right cheek. Should I book a trio or is it a waste of money and in this lighting is excision a good option for me. I will be booking a treatment with rullan for June. I initially was hesitant but want to go through with this
This looks so good. You look very pretty in this. You don™t need excision maybe some filler here and there and that™s it. As flawless as it can get for an acne scar patient. Please stop comparing to baby skin. The dissatisfaction is coming from that point of view
14 hours ago, shei514 said:Natural lighting for my right cheek. Should I book a trio or is it a waste of money and in this lighting is excision a good option for me. I will be booking a treatment with rullan for June. I initially was hesitant but want to go through with this
I don't think you need excision. Your skin looks beautiful. If you're restless, probably dermabrasion and filler if needed would do the trick. I'm getting dermabrasion around August so I'll let you know how that goes.
Yeah for me its about passing and in some lighting people have no idea I have struggled immensely with acne scarring. For me that means Ive come a long way and now people are saying I would have never noticed your scars. The days where I used to ball my eyes out over my skin are in a way starting to become part of the past. But I still think in some lighting my skin looks terrible and its hard to accept. I will still go ahead and schedule an appointment with Rullan for June and get his opinion. Maybe the trio is a good idea, perhaps excision (although he might say no), or even permanent filler like I used to talk about on here.
Have a little look at the scarless healing thread things are looking promising. Potentially in about 6 months if things go well you might be able to do some very dodgy off label revision that could give you scarless skin after excision
Percentage measurements always look weird to me. The goal is to make scars unnoticeable and look good. Overhead lighting means nothing, outdoor lighting is important and you look great.
BTW, what was your diet, lifestyle? Any specific vitamins or supplements?
ps. I really think that more subs and fillers done by someone experienced will bring you to 95+%
@shei514watch this and honestly tell me if she looks ugly sure it reduces her market value by a point or two but she is still attractive, she has severe scars. So at the end of the day your facial features are king.
sure someone who is judging on perfection will tell that she is ugly but a lot of other people would be willing to be opposite the same thing with celebrities like not everyone will like them and thats ok. We have to learn to accept
On 5/20/2022 at 8:54 PM, Candy Says said:Percentage measurements always look weird to me. The goal is to make scars unnoticeable and look good. Overhead lighting means nothing, outdoor lighting is important and you look great.
BTW, what was your diet, lifestyle? Any specific vitamins or supplements?
ps. I really think that more subs and fillers done by someone experienced will bring you to 95+%
Why does overhead lighting mean nothing?
I just have to make a wire payment to secure my appointment with Dr Rullan but he recommends filler, subcision and punch excision for the stubborn boxcar scars. I'm really excited tbh but unfortunately Dr Rullan is all booked for June so my appointment won't be until July. I asked to be on the waiting list because I'm super eager lol.
On 5/24/2022 at 7:11 PM, getsmart121 said:@shei514watch this and honestly tell me if she looks ugly sure it reduces her market value by a point or two but she is still attractive, she has severe scars. So at the end of the day your facial features are king.
sure someone who is judging on perfection will tell that she is ugly but a lot of other people would be willing to be opposite the same thing with celebrities like not everyone will like them and thats ok. We have to learn to accept
You have a good point I guess Im just really hard on myself and see myself as looking 100% worse lol which is why I feel like shit constantly.
33 minutes ago, shei514 said:You have a good point I guess Im just really hard on myself and see myself as looking 100% worse lol which is why I feel like shit constantly.
It's really weird but I find it so easy to ignore girls with scars. My only real problem is with any gender it's hard to look at them and try to figure out if I stare will it upset them or make it more awkward. I saw two people in the last few years with some and one I felt like I might have upset by just looking and another girl ran past me so fast but I found her lovely even with it so I don't know. Personally I don't know if it's because of my personal experiences with it or just my maturity at my age/tastes. I almost find it like evidence that your strong and hardened by life which is attractive.
I could just be mentally screwed up too at this point lol. I don't find it unattractive, flaws of any sort make people more attractive past the superficial "oh he/she is hot" it gets boring real, real fast.
On 5/26/2022 at 8:48 PM, harmlessboy1441 said:It's really weird but I find it so easy to ignore girls with scars. My only real problem is with any gender it's hard to look at them and try to figure out if I stare will it upset them or make it more awkward. I saw two people in the last few years with some and one I felt like I might have upset by just looking and another girl ran past me so fast but I found her lovely even with it so I don't know. Personally I don't know if it's because of my personal experiences with it or just my maturity at my age/tastes. I almost find it like evidence that your strong and hardened by life which is attractive.
I could just be mentally screwed up too at this point lol. I don't find it unattractive, flaws of any sort make people more attractive past the superficial "oh he/she is hot" it gets boring real, real fast.
no, i strongly agree with you. i find men/women with scarring absolutely beautiful and resilient. my SO has acne scarring and he is the most beautiful man I have ever seen. I tell him all the time that his scarring is attractive to me, not only because I have it, but because I find him more human and less superficial than everyone else. I want real people with real skin who arent afraid to be themselves and see the rest of the world as viewing our current beauty standards as wrong (i.e. filters, excessive reliance on plastic surgery to fix flaws). I say all this because I struggle to see the light many times. I struggle to see the actual beauty behind myself because I hyperfocus on how others MAY perceive my scarring. Its true that scarring becomes invisible after youre close with someone. I dont notice my SOs scars at alllllll and if I do, I smile and tell him hes beautiful because he is! Also, his grace in accepting himself and thus me, makes me appreciate and value his perception of the world and myself. It has improved the perception of myself. Im not as accepting as he is yet about myself but we are completely open about how the scarring makes me insecure and its brought us so close, closer than I would with most people who has smooth skin. Also, everyone has their one major insecurity. Mine is my scarring. For others, it might be their weight. or size. or hair. or disability. And I never notice or care when I see that in others, and others definitely dont care to see that in us. Im just adding an insight. I am the worst on myself, still. So please dont take this as Ive reached a complete acceptance, I havent. But Ive reached a comfort and closeness with the flaws of others that makes me more connected with others by looking past their surface, or seeing their imperfections as beauty. And it is! Many may not see it my way, but if they dont, they shouldnt be in your life anyways. Its hard when some of these people are your family, you cant escape that, but for the most part, great people who love you will never see your flaws for long.