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and they are gonnas be even better in some months! congratulations! your scars are much better
and they are gonnas be even better in some months!
just a question...what about collagen stimulator laser?
i dont even know about collagen stimulator laser until i googled it. do you think this would benefit me more then fraxel laser?
My doctor told me it was pointless to start laser until my depression scars were almost all gone because laser works on a flat surface and my face isnt flat so it would be a waste of money.
Nice thread! To be honest though, I don't see too much of a difference between your third picture and the last (with 3 subcisions in between). Is it the camera angle? How much of a difference do you think it's made?
I think it could be the camera angle and the lightening which can affect the images. I tried to find the worst images under the worst lightening so it looks bad. I have only been having subscision since July so thats only 5 months. He did tell me that I shouldn't start seeing results for many months.
As for results, the main result I can visually see is that from a distance. No one can tell I have scaring unless they are close up to my face. The shape of my face is a lot more smoother and it does appear to be getting better. However I have good days and bad days.
I had a small dimple on my chin which he mistook for being a scar and as a result I no longer have a dimple. Also the area got infected but it healed thanks to the antibiotics he proscribed me.
My first subscision was the worst because I bruised very badly which lasted for 1 month! I uploaded a photo for people to see.
please post your final results under the same lightning as the 2009-before-any-treatment-picture.
that would be really helpful to evaluate the success of your journey.
i will but i havent finished my subscision treatments yet.
however here is another pic from 2009 and now. you can notice that a lot of the areas on my cheek have filled out and the marks near my mouth have almost all gone.
i will continue to upload photos so if you have a request please let me know. ive taken A LOT of photos. My doctor has also been taking photos which I will upload after I have finished the treatment.
I've had subcision and fat transfer (twice) with a plastic surgeon. I've found that it helped with the rolling scars and gave longer lasting results than having a filler. The surgeon 'overinjected' each site by 30% fat as after the first few months, some of the fat is absorbed by the body.
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please post your final results under the same lightning as the 2009-before-any-treatment-picture.
that would be really helpful to evaluate the success of your journey.
i will but i havent finished my subscision treatments yet.
however here is another pic from 2009 and now. you can notice that a lot of the areas on my cheek have filled out and the marks near my mouth have almost all gone.
i will continue to upload photos so if you have a request please let me know. ive taken A LOT of photos. My doctor has also been taking photos which I will upload after I have finished the treatment.
Lookin' good man.
Do you think that the Accutane made your scars worse?
please post your final results under the same lightning as the 2009-before-any-treatment-picture.
that would be really helpful to evaluate the success of your journey.
i will but i havent finished my subscision treatments yet.
however here is another pic from 2009 and now. you can notice that a lot of the areas on my cheek have filled out and the marks near my mouth have almost all gone.
i will continue to upload photos so if you have a request please let me know. ive taken A LOT of photos. My doctor has also been taking photos which I will upload after I have finished the treatment.
Lookin' good man.
Do you think that the Accutane made your scars worse?
its hard to know because i had acne on my face as well as scaring but i do think it got worse while on accutane. i know from taking accutane, i got a scar on my forehead just above my nose. i did not have this scar before I took accutane but I had it when my acne was gone. (I uploaded a photo to show you) the scar is a Hypertrophic scar which is the only one i have on my face.
I copied this from another site but this is the information about this scar:
Appearance: A hypertrophic scar looks like a raised, firm mass of tissue. These types of scars often grow larger than the original wound. Hypertrophic scars caused by acne are most often found on the torso, especially in men.
Development: Unlike ice pick or boxcar scars, hypertrophic scars are not caused by a loss of tissue. Rather, they develop because of an overproduction of collagen.
Common treatments: Steroid (cortisone) creams, tapes, or injections are used to help shrink and flatten the scar. Interferon injections are also used to soften scar tissue.
After being on accutane (for 6 months from memory), i no longer get acne on my face. The only side effect I got was stretch marks on my legs (i have not gain or lost any weight). But accutane did get rid of my acne so I cant really complain can i? Now its time to get rid of the scaring!
please post your final results under the same lightning as the 2009-before-any-treatment-picture.
that would be really helpful to evaluate the success of your journey.
i will but i havent finished my subscision treatments yet.
however here is another pic from 2009 and now. you can notice that a lot of the areas on my cheek have filled out and the marks near my mouth have almost all gone.
i will continue to upload photos so if you have a request please let me know. ive taken A LOT of photos. My doctor has also been taking photos which I will upload after I have finished the treatment.
Lookin' good man.
Do you think that the Accutane made your scars worse?
its hard to know because i had acne on my face as well as scaring but i do think it got worse while on accutane. i know from taking accutane, i got a scar on my forehead just above my nose. i did not have this scar before I took accutane but I had it when my acne was gone. (I uploaded a photo to show you) the scar is a Hypertrophic scar which is the only one i have on my face.
I copied this from another site but this is the information about this scar:
Appearance: A hypertrophic scar looks like a raised, firm mass of tissue. These types of scars often grow larger than the original wound. Hypertrophic scars caused by acne are most often found on the torso, especially in men.
Development: Unlike ice pick or boxcar scars, hypertrophic scars are not caused by a loss of tissue. Rather, they develop because of an overproduction of collagen.
Common treatments: Steroid (cortisone) creams, tapes, or injections are used to help shrink and flatten the scar. Interferon injections are also used to soften scar tissue.
After being on accutane (for 6 months from memory), i no longer get acne on my face. The only side effect I got was stretch marks on my legs (i have not gain or lost any weight). But accutane did get rid of my acne so I cant really complain can i? Now its time to get rid of the scaring!
Thanks for the info. The scars are looking much better with the treatments that you are going for. I am happy for you.
I was just asking about the Accutane because after I took it I was left with a little scarring. My face never scarred before the meds (except chicken pox scars). I took it for six months. I still am not sure if the scars are because of the meds (they make your skin thin) or just because the acne was so deep. I am glad though that it did stop my acne problem.
please post your final results under the same lightning as the 2009-before-any-treatment-picture.
that would be really helpful to evaluate the success of your journey.
i will but i havent finished my subscision treatments yet.
however here is another pic from 2009 and now. you can notice that a lot of the areas on my cheek have filled out and the marks near my mouth have almost all gone.
i will continue to upload photos so if you have a request please let me know. ive taken A LOT of photos. My doctor has also been taking photos which I will upload after I have finished the treatment.
Lookin' good man.
Do you think that the Accutane made your scars worse?
its hard to know because i had acne on my face as well as scaring but i do think it got worse while on accutane. i know from taking accutane, i got a scar on my forehead just above my nose. i did not have this scar before I took accutane but I had it when my acne was gone. (I uploaded a photo to show you) the scar is a Hypertrophic scar which is the only one i have on my face.
I copied this from another site but this is the information about this scar:
Appearance: A hypertrophic scar looks like a raised, firm mass of tissue. These types of scars often grow larger than the original wound. Hypertrophic scars caused by acne are most often found on the torso, especially in men.
Development: Unlike ice pick or boxcar scars, hypertrophic scars are not caused by a loss of tissue. Rather, they develop because of an overproduction of collagen.
Common treatments: Steroid (cortisone) creams, tapes, or injections are used to help shrink and flatten the scar. Interferon injections are also used to soften scar tissue.
After being on accutane (for 6 months from memory), i no longer get acne on my face. The only side effect I got was stretch marks on my legs (i have not gain or lost any weight). But accutane did get rid of my acne so I cant really complain can i? Now its time to get rid of the scaring!
Thanks for the info. The scars are looking much better with the treatments that you are going for. I am happy for you.
I was just asking about the Accutane because after I took it I was left with a little scarring. My face never scarred before the meds (except chicken pox scars). I took it for six months. I still am not sure if the scars are because of the meds (they make your skin thin) or just because the acne was so deep. I am glad though that it did stop my acne problem.
Your skin is very fragile while on accutane. This is why some of the side effects are that you shouldn't go outside because it can damage your skin and cause scaring.
This website states what are some of the side effects of accutane:
http://www.acne.org/accutane-side-effects.html
I only suffered from nose bleeds, depression and dry mouth and lips while on accutane. Most of these side effects didnt occur until I stopped taking accutane but the doctor did warn me about this because the drug is still in your system for a very long time. It has been almost 10 years since I took accutane and even today I still suffer some side effects from it. I always have dry lips. I never had dry lips at all before I took accutane. I also suffered for depression for a few years but more recently, my depression has gone away. Could it be because accutane is slowly getting out of my system? I honestly don't know but I am thankfully that accutane got rid of my acne which I suffered from 8 years old (yes im not kidding!)
please post your final results under the same lightning as the 2009-before-any-treatment-picture.
that would be really helpful to evaluate the success of your journey.
i will but i havent finished my subscision treatments yet.
however here is another pic from 2009 and now. you can notice that a lot of the areas on my cheek have filled out and the marks near my mouth have almost all gone.
i will continue to upload photos so if you have a request please let me know. ive taken A LOT of photos. My doctor has also been taking photos which I will upload after I have finished the treatment.
Lookin' good man.
Do you think that the Accutane made your scars worse?
its hard to know because i had acne on my face as well as scaring but i do think it got worse while on accutane. i know from taking accutane, i got a scar on my forehead just above my nose. i did not have this scar before I took accutane but I had it when my acne was gone. (I uploaded a photo to show you) the scar is a Hypertrophic scar which is the only one i have on my face.
I copied this from another site but this is the information about this scar:
Appearance: A hypertrophic scar looks like a raised, firm mass of tissue. These types of scars often grow larger than the original wound. Hypertrophic scars caused by acne are most often found on the torso, especially in men.
Development: Unlike ice pick or boxcar scars, hypertrophic scars are not caused by a loss of tissue. Rather, they develop because of an overproduction of collagen.
Common treatments: Steroid (cortisone) creams, tapes, or injections are used to help shrink and flatten the scar. Interferon injections are also used to soften scar tissue.
After being on accutane (for 6 months from memory), i no longer get acne on my face. The only side effect I got was stretch marks on my legs (i have not gain or lost any weight). But accutane did get rid of my acne so I cant really complain can i? Now its time to get rid of the scaring!
Thanks for the info. The scars are looking much better with the treatments that you are going for. I am happy for you.
I was just asking about the Accutane because after I took it I was left with a little scarring. My face never scarred before the meds (except chicken pox scars). I took it for six months. I still am not sure if the scars are because of the meds (they make your skin thin) or just because the acne was so deep. I am glad though that it did stop my acne problem.
Your skin is very fragile while on accutane. This is why some of the side effects are that you shouldn't go outside because it can damage your skin and cause scaring.
This website states what are some of the side effects of accutane:
http://www.acne.org/accutane-side-effects.html
I only suffered from nose bleeds, depression and dry mouth and lips while on accutane. Most of these side effects didnt occur until I stopped taking accutane but the doctor did warn me about this because the drug is still in your system for a very long time. It has been almost 10 years since I took accutane and even today I still suffer some side effects from it. I always have dry lips. I never had dry lips at all before I took accutane. I also suffered for depression for a few years but more recently, my depression has gone away. Could it be because accutane is slowly getting out of my system? I honestly don't know but I am thankfully that accutane got rid of my acne which I suffered from 8 years old (yes im not kidding!)
Yeah, it is a serious drug.
I really had no choice to stay inside when I was on Accutane. I live in a pretty hot country and because of my job I am in the sun a lot.
Looks good Greg, before you had bad scars, now I see a guy with scar blemishes, I don't think accutane causes depression, I think it's lack of control, as in scars, acne, quilty of life. Im in the boat that after 6 months it leaves your system, buy then I could be wrong. Anyways good luck man I'll be following this thread and making witty comments once in awhile
Just updating this.
Going in for my 4th subcision tomorrow. Not looking forward to it because my face still kinda hurts and the needles are going to be painful.
Thought I would upload a before and after photo.
The first photo is before any subcision treatments and now. There isnt much difference from this angle but in the 2nd photo, you can see the shape of my face (especially in my cheeks) is a lot more smooth and risen (this was the intent of the subcision).
The second photo is a side on of my face. Here is where you can see the difference. The scars are bearly noticeable. From a distance, you can no longer tell that I have scars!
I tried to use the same lighting and i used the worst photos. I will upload more photos tomorrow (if i get time)
It has only been 6 months since my first procedure. its meant to take a long time to see results.
I just had my 4th subcision and it hurt a lot. My doctor was very impressed with how my skin is going (especially the bigger scars which he has been focusing on in my last treatments). This time was more severe and im sure to get massive bruises because he worked on a lot of my smaller scars.
Thought I would upload a pic I took with my cell phone of me straight after the procedure.
Will update this again soon.
It's been 2 days since I had my 4th subcision. I uploaded a photo to show how my face is now.
My 4th subcision was probably the worst I have had.
The procedure took about an hour (normally it takes about 20 minutes), but he worked a lot on my smaller rolling and depressed scars.
He injected a bit too much local anaesthetic near my left eye which gave me a wonky eye for the rest of the day. I could bearly see out of it.
Also he injected the local anaesthetic a bit too far into my cheek which ended up going into my mouth (no I am not kidding!).
He was working on my face for much longer this time and the local anaesthetic was starting to wear off so I felt a bit of pain near the end of the procedure.
The procedure is kind of a blur though but I guess that's a good thing. Luckily I've have a couple days off work to recover because I needed it.
Now I just have to wait for the bruising and swelling to go down and I will post another before and after photo.
