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Sorry to post on your thread GBL, but I know a lot of people, including you are int. in this topic --does anyone know of a doc who uses acell matristem powder for acne scars? I'm just guessing, but if a really deep lasering was done, could the atristem powder re-heal you to a former and less scar-ridden skin? I mean if it can grow back a thumb for christsakes!! God, it's depressing how desperate I am about this!! Here's the info:
http://www.backacnescarstreatment.com/matristem-wound-powder-and-wound-care-matrix/
ps, I am actually more convinced now that GBL's procedure, while it did giver her some texture improvement and some very slight indentation help will not work on people who have acne scars like mine... : ((((((
Rez- firstly i dont know ANYTHING about Acell but i'll read up on it
To CMC- unfortunately I couldnt replicate the light of summer, now that autum has hit scotland. All I can do is post the photos that most accurately show the scar changes. I wish i COULd get exactly the same light . As you can tell, i saw the light was showing the skin in a brighter colour hence why i took ANOTHER front shot ...still not the same light but really, you think I did it purposefully to make it look better? come on.....there was NO light in which the scar was invisible, before.
As for working for Dr Ahmed- been through that debate and its really getting boring not to mention offensive to me. Seriously- shut up.
Rez- your scars are far worse than CMCs . Take ONE of those pits, and thats what CMC has.
In all honesty Rez, I dont think your skin issues are the type that would benefit massively from Recell. (from my experience this is) . Yours is wholly an issue of dents- the texture and pigment are fine. Recell is a surface-level thing- texture and pigment. My dent has improved significantly, but i believe this is from the needling and injecting of the stem cells which wasnt a recognised /approved procedure. I think the dents would all be smoothed - maybe a little, maybe a moderate amount, but they would still be visible in some light, like my dent
CMC i dont feel sorry for you because of the state of your scars. i feel sorry fo you that you believe the scars are bad enough to spend so much money on and for you to be so unhappy about when in truth you have bloody fantastic skin with scars that look like totally normal wear and tear taking up 0.01% of your face. Also you are looking at yourself with skin that hasnt even healed saying its worse. Well thats like taking bandages off after a face lift and complaining you have black eyes......
Rez- just rethinking. If the laser before the recell went deep enough to laser off down to the level of the deepest pit, then you'd have a hope.
im just thinking because my original scar was a surgical line going through all layers of skin, which the laser DID obliterate as theres no sign of the surgical line at all. The healing from the laser was the issue.(unfortunately left with the dent, but i believe if Recell had been used at that time, it would have healed perfectly)
i dont know though. its a pity you cant patch test it but unfortunately its the whole kit or nothing, You really need someone with that type of scar to go though it and post their pics up. I knew that the recell would at least get rid of one issue (pigment) and anything else would be a bonus
Rez, You should look into earnesto's treatment plan. I think he had subcision, laser, and recell. You would probably get an amazing result.
What it seems some people don't understand is that recell or even acell are not stand alone procedures. They are to used to help fresh wounds heal better or at best scar free. That doesn't mean these products will not work on old scars. That just means one needs to use additional of methods like laser, needling etc to re wound the skin. Also, skin doesn't regenerate in a day or a few weeks. So as others have said, we have not seen GBL's complete results.
GBL, Thank you for taking the time and effort to post your journey. I am sorry you are taking so much shit. I guess no good deed goes unpunished huh? You have handled all of the negative posts with humor and class. Thank you again. I just wanted to let you know that you are appreciated. Wishing you excellent healing.
This is actually helpful --yes I do understand that recell and acell are not stand alone --first the skin needs to be abraided somehow(usually through lasers) and then healed through the recell/acell etc.. I suppose I'll have to wait a longer time but eventually something will be developed. And good luck on your continued healing GBL!
(Sorry GBL, I am not trying to hijack your thread.)
Rez,
I think there are a lot of "NOW" options for your scarring that will give you good improvement. Subcision with a temp filler underneath would probably yield very good results. Look at Mr. Matt's posts (I think that is the correct name). Silicone would also be an option. Needling is slow but I do think that it is beneficial and it is something you can do cheaply at home. Plus if you are going to be waiting any way "why not"? We all need to realize that multiple treatments are necessary 99% of the time for skin issues. Even the most minor. And Usually a combination of treatments gives the best outcome. Also and the most important: Patience. Wishing you the best.
I met up with you because i felt sorry for you coming to europe alone and feeling you had a bad result. What i saw was someone with a couple of INSIGNIFICANT scars that maybe hadnt changed much because there was little room for improvement. I didnt see anything like what you had described in your posts. In fact I'm not even going to write my honest thoughts because i feel sorry for you
Wow gbl congratulations you just failed your stupidity exam.. Little room for improvement? It's not about the size or severity of the scars, it's the results that count and matter. And my scars are infact quite bad and in very noticable places on my face. Eg, On the tip of my nose (indented), a 2-3 cm surgical scar and 2cm burn scar and another round scar. Also, make up is a beautiful thing don't you agree? Same with computer technology like adobe photoshop.
And ya people tend to have a more precision and seriousness when it comes to there own problems such as these,your face and notice more about changes and stuff. Atleast you can cover your scar with your hair, I can't, you can see my scars just by looking at me. And when you saw me you just "looked" you didn't notice anything huh? your full of shit, stop lying. How much are you being paid?
CMC i dont feel sorry for you because of the state of your scars. i feel sorry fo you that you believe the scars are bad enough to spend so much money on and for you to be so unhappy about when in truth you have bloody fantastic skin with scars that look like totally normal wear and tear taking up 0.01% of your face. Also you are looking at yourself with skin that hasnt even healed saying its worse. Well thats like taking bandages off after a face lift and complaining you have black eyes......
Wow stop changing your words. Your just mad because I busted your conspiracy with that incompetent lying prick mohamed ahmed who gave me scars and made them look worst SERIOUSLY,There are like 10 icepick scars added to my scars now.. And to lure others into this useless treatment that makes things worst. 0.01% huh.. Did you fail all your mathematics classes in school? If i had fantastic skin I wouldn't even be on these forums in the first place and being so desparate to go get this expensive and relatively "new" treatment from this doctor. This clinic has only been opened for 1 year and yet Dr.ahmed claims he's done over 20 recell procedures with great results, I find that misleading when hes only been in this business for so short of a time.
Oh and I did get laser and carboxytherapy prior to having recell done. They took off a layer of skin from my scars and it still looks the same and even worse after I took off the dressing. You guys don't want to believe that this "miracle" treatment is useless do you? But in reality it is. I'm sorry.
Dr,ahmed claims that this is a new revolutionary treatment in skin regeneration.. How can it be when it's been around for so long?
It's more like a new revolutionary expensive scam treatment.
Can i just point out the laser is SUPPOSED to take a top layer off your skin.......of course it looks worse at first. And i really hope you didnt take off the dressing yourself CMC cos that would have REALLY messed things up....
CMC, if you believe its not helped you (VERY prematurely) , why not say this treatment did not work FOR YOU? Why try to make me into a liar ? I took time out of my day and met you with my daughter and told you THEN you have fantastic skin - how am i changing my words? When i showed you my results your response was 'Well some people heal better than others' why try to make me into the enemy now?
Lol why do people always pick on gbl. She actually took the time to meet up with you and you still doubt her. Trust me, a shill would never risk their cover by meeting someone from a forum they're trying to scam. I hope this doesn't deter others from sharing extensive before and afters. Don't worry gbl, most of us are on your side.
I agree that the gbl has been a big help and her posting of pictures really took courage. Her improvement can not be denied. It is quite amazing. The recell people do say that it can take a full year. So for people to bash a doctor or say it did not work after a few weeks is a tad bit strange. Could cmc be a shill for the anti recell society run by the laser company's? lol see how crazy these conspiracy theories can sound.
Been following this thread since the beginning as a lurker, but I created an account just to post a reply.
gbl, just to reiterate what others have said, your detailed posts and regular updates (with photos) have been very helpful to the many who are interested in this treatment. Seeing your improvement has really given me hope. Don't let one poster's negative comments and accusations get to you, the rest of us are very grateful that you are sharing your experience with us.
-L
thanks guys im actually feeling a little bit down today because all this talk makes me re-examine the scar, take more photos etc to try to replicate the light, although the scar is invisible from front light (the photos arent lying) im having a bit of a down day about the indent when seen with side light.....
i was having a different cosmetic treatment today (not with Dr Ahmed, not at Sculpta, and unrelated to the scar- i'm a treatment junkie!!!) and she thought that it was possibly too shallow but hydraluic acid might be able to smooth it. I explained i was waiting for full effects of the Recell but its an option for the future.
Rez, You should look into earnesto's treatment plan. I think he had subcision, laser, and recell. You would probably get an amazing result.
What it seems some people don't understand is that recell or even acell are not stand alone procedures. They are to used to help fresh wounds heal better or at best scar free. That doesn't mean these products will not work on old scars. That just means one needs to use additional of methods like laser, needling etc to re wound the skin. Also, skin doesn't regenerate in a day or a few weeks. So as others have said, we have not seen GBL's complete results.
GBL, Thank you for taking the time and effort to post your journey. I am sorry you are taking so much shit. I guess no good deed goes unpunished huh? You have handled all of the negative posts with humor and class. Thank you again. I just wanted to let you know that you are appreciated. Wishing you excellent healing.
listen stop referring to all these controversial people whose pics are crap and clearly altered, just post the before after pics yourself and the name of the treatment if you want to be helpful. I HAVE SEEN NO LASER, SUBCISION, SILICONE MICROBEEDS, ETC> ETC> give anyone with REAL ACNE SCARS more than like a 5 percent(essentially WorthleSS IMPROVEMENt!) ANd i can sign my name to that. I thought recell might be a solution. But it ain't. Somewhere, someone must be desperate enough to have their skin lasered down to the depth of the scar and then have recell or acell matrix or whatever slathered on it but the fact that that hasn't happened yet, means the technology DOES NOT EXIST. I've read several dermatological papers on scar formation and therapies and they all say new dermis cannot be generated(yet) --you can only do things like cut out/excise the scar, camouflage it, etc. etc. --so if the TOP FUCKING SCAR DOCTORS int he world are saying it's impossible for scars WAY more pressing than GBL's and my acne scars we should all probably not be holding our breaths!
CMC has sent me a personal messages explaining the procedure and it's not for acne scarring --it will do SHIITE FOr ACNE SCARRING. There is no cure yet. Go to sleep, wake up in a couple of years, maybe there'll be something then, buy guys, good luck, I'm leaving this forum for good.
Good luck Rez. Its a shame you are letting someone who will not post their pictures influence your judgment
I dont know if Recell is the answer for pitted acne scars. Maybe, maybe not ? The edges of my scar have certainly crept in a mm or so, so if it did that to every acne pit, it would look better, not cured but better
You can always work towards improvement . I guess improvement alone is not good enough for some people ! Unfortunately if you're looking for a COMPLETE cure it seems your life is going to be a big waste of time!!
At the moment, I dont think the one session of Recell will bring the maximum improvement i could realistically expect, but i think it has made enough improvement to warrant me going through the procedure again. If the dent got another mm narrower and another 50% less dented that could be a result good enough for me to not see it as a scar that affects my life, and isnt that the point? Not a cure, but enough improvement to not be bothered by it. Anyone who demands perfect baby skin all over to function as a normal human being is in need of psychological help IMO.
Rez, You should look into earnesto's treatment plan. I think he had subcision, laser, and recell. You would probably get an amazing result.
What it seems some people don't understand is that recell or even acell are not stand alone procedures. They are to used to help fresh wounds heal better or at best scar free. That doesn't mean these products will not work on old scars. That just means one needs to use additional of methods like laser, needling etc to re wound the skin. Also, skin doesn't regenerate in a day or a few weeks. So as others have said, we have not seen GBL's complete results.
GBL, Thank you for taking the time and effort to post your journey. I am sorry you are taking so much shit. I guess no good deed goes unpunished huh? You have handled all of the negative posts with humor and class. Thank you again. I just wanted to let you know that you are appreciated. Wishing you excellent healing.
listen stop referring to all these controversial people whose pics are crap and clearly altered, just post the before after pics yourself and the name of the treatment if you want to be helpful. I HAVE SEEN NO LASER, SUBCISION, SILICONE MICROBEEDS, ETC> ETC> give anyone with REAL ACNE SCARS more than like a 5 percent(essentially WorthleSS IMPROVEMENt!) ANd i can sign my name to that. I thought recell might be a solution. But it ain't. Somewhere, someone must be desperate enough to have their skin lasered down to the depth of the scar and then have recell or acell matrix or whatever slathered on it but the fact that that hasn't happened yet, means the technology DOES NOT EXIST. I've read several dermatological papers on scar formation and therapies and they all say new dermis cannot be generated(yet) --you can only do things like cut out/excise the scar, camouflage it, etc. etc. --so if the TOP FUCKING SCAR DOCTORS int he world are saying it's impossible for scars WAY more pressing than GBL's and my acne scars we should all probably not be holding our breaths!
Wow you are a such a bitter person. I was just trying to help by giving references or suggestions that may lead you in a direction that will assist you and give you hope. I don't think I should have to post pics to try to be encouraging which is what I was trying to do. However some people will never be grateful or satisfied. I truly hope you are done with this forum because your negativity really brings down others that are looking for ways to improve their skin. Fifty years ago the idea of an iphone was "impossible". There is a cure. It is up to us find it. That should be the point of these forums.
GBL I would not second guess your results thus far. I think you have had a great improvement and this is just from one treatment.
Was earnesto's proven to be a fraud? I found him credible.
No , he was credible and had great results but, I would take into consideration two things.
1. He had multiple/aggresive treatments. I have not seen after pictures like his he was really swollen ,bruised and red.
2. He has severe scarring. So, his improvements were much more noticeable.
NO!!! his results were not credible. His face was a mutant face and after it was still a mutant face with softer lighting. The lighting and the angle were not the same so PISS OFF!!! with your SHITE Earneso example.
CMC has sent me a personal messages explaining the procedure and it's not for acne scarring --it will do SHIITE FOr ACNE SCARRING. There is no cure yet. Go to sleep, wake up in a couple of years, maybe there'll be something then, buy guys, good luck, I'm leaving this forum for good.
Ugh, just a sickening attitude. I don't know why people even bother with this guy, I knew he was an idiot when he started putting percentages on gbl's improvment after one week.
Rez 77 frustration and doubt is normal. Give the guy a break for being negative, he is obviously suffering from scars. Don't cut away emotion. To be honest, a treatment will come.
In the meanwhile this board is to find solutions and share, not to trow people aside. positive or negative.
Now gbl had some good results that can't be ignored. Further try to put mental issues of anxiety next to the real damage of scars for yourself, always try to evaluate.
It's not a good thing to say to another person their scars are nothing, the mental effect could be different then you could understand. There are medicine's for anxiety.
I believe Recell hasn't been completly tested and approved, this might be one of the reasons it is so little in use, on the other hand I would'nt be suprised if the people who do these treatments ask a lot of money and are in it for the money. So there is a little truth in that.
Stil we can all be ungratefull and dissapointed, and then again I am just going to try anyway. Money doesn't matter much when it's your health. The whole world is in dept and I don't really feel like I have much to lose. All these generations ago treatment wasn't a option, now their is hope. So don't let that spoil your day. I would say go for it and tackle the mental issues as well.