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Hey gbl, I think your ex-scar looks great! I certainly wouldn't fear cutting off those bangs if I were you (not saying that you should though, they look great )
It's curious that the texture has improved so much. A more natural texture would imply a less shiny and more porous skin. The latter, in turn, would indicate that hair follicles have been formed anew in the scarred tissue, which is quite remarkable (postnatal HF regeneration has up until quite recently been regarded as an impossibility.) This might be hard to tell, but may I ask how the (vellus) hair patterning in the scar looks? Does it look normal? It also might be that the hair follicles didn't develop to a mature enough stage, so that, while their ducts (the pores) are somewhat visible, they don't produce any hair. You may need a strong side light, e.g. from a flashlight, to see this.
I know it doesn't say much in terms of the improvement you have had (who wants hair on their forehead anyway? ) The reason I'm asking is because I've lost some eyebrow hairs due to trauma, and I'm looking for ways to fix this. Anyhow, it would be great if you could check it out for me
Many thanks and continued good luck with the healing!
From the pictures you have shown us so far, your scar looks alot better. The color looks more natural, and it looks like it has filled in alot -- the edges look like they have been smoothed out. More improvement is just icing on the cake! I'm very happy for you!
And, I might have to go with the skin biology. It's nice to have someone say good things about it, because, honestly, the site where you order it from looked a bit shady to me. Thanks 
Hey gbl, I think your ex-scar looks great! I certainly wouldn't fear cutting off those bangs if I were you (not saying that you should though, they look great
)
It's curious that the texture has improved so much. A more natural texture would imply a less shiny and more porous skin. The latter, in turn, would indicate that hair follicles have been formed anew in the scarred tissue, which is quite remarkable (postnatal HF regeneration has up until quite recently been regarded as an impossibility.) This might be hard to tell, but may I ask how the (vellus) hair patterning in the scar looks? Does it look normal? It also might be that the hair follicles didn't develop to a mature enough stage, so that, while their ducts (the pores) are somewhat visible, they don't produce any hair. You may need a strong side light, e.g. from a flashlight, to see this.
hey. i havent found a need to shave my forehead i must admit!!!! I can see a few dots like pores in the area that was all shiney. and the edges of what was scar tissue is totally normal. Its like normal skin has crept in from the sides. in the very middle it doesnt seem that porous but there are a few dotted about. its certainly not shiney- if i put a bit of fake tan on it would all look normal texture. (rather than a shiney bit coloured in)
Okay, that's interesting. Many thanks for your reply! hey ! I havent had any further treatments yet, basically financial constraints/ priorities. The dent is really really improved. The pigment, isnt as improved as first appeared (opposite to expectations that pigment would be restored but the dent remain unchanged)
dr ahmed said it can take up to a year for full pigment results. Borec on this forum who has done LOADS of research has been told it can take up to 18 months so still waiting and seeing what happens.
I'm still planning to do either PRP/microneedling or Carboxytherapy/microneedling , i just havent done it yet.
I'll take some more pics when i get a chance although i dont think it looks significantly different to the last lot of pics.
GBL, I just read through all these posts from start to finish for the first time and I think your scar has improved loads. I also think you deserve credit for continuing to share your progress considering one member in particular turned quite nasty on you. I would take whatever they said with a huge pinch of salt. Keep up the good work!
here's the scar at 8 months post Recell. I am absolutely delighted with the improvements in the dent- this was the biggest issue for me and one i thought might not change much from the recell. So that alone has been worth it for me. However, I am now disappointed with the pigment which initially seemed to be restored, but has gradually gone whiter again. HOWEVER....i have been advised a full year to 18 months for pigment. So, i still plan to do some PRP/carboxy/needling or as a last resort, micropigmentation to semi-permanently colour the skin.
Looks really fantastic.
I was reading some Case reports today regarding surgical scars and my type of white scars,i.e laser indused hypopigmentation. They stated that the scared tissue had the same amount of melanocytes as the normal tissue!.
However in the scared tissue "melangenesis" was not taking place, i.e melanin being produced by the melanocytes and passed up through the layers of the epidermis. There is a mysterios little microenvironment in our skin.
Some people had success with needling and the use of tyrosine to stimulate them. What does carboxy do?
Ill be posting my 2 week pictures in the next few days. So far im very happy with the improvements in my scars. Especially the skin texture. I havent had skin like that since i was a pre-teen. Thanks to recell.
Now im waiting for the pigment like you. Just DONT burn your skin!
WOW!
That's some improvement gbl! It's almost unbelievable!
I'm almost certain I'll be going for the recell treatment as well, though probably only in 1-2 years time. Most likely with the same doc who did the treatments for Borec. Thank you so much for documenting and sharing your experience.
You must be thrilled!
-Luke
Borec- with carboxytherapy , carbondioxide is 'squirted' into the skin with fine needles. This causes an overcompensation of oxygen delivery afterwards. Its good for stretchmarks, scars, wrinkles, volumising. I had it the week before the recell and was surprised at the immediate results, so based on that i'd be wiling to give a course a shot. i dont know if the effect would be temporary but it is supposed to get rid of the silveryness of stretchmarks so its worth a try.
Thats interesting about the hypo caused by laser. Mine is also caused by laser so i wonder if this means the recell will or wont stimulate melangenis.
Im quite suprised at the responses to the photos! i thought all the cynics would descend saying how rubbish the treatment is because theres still whiteness.....
looking forward to seeing your pics borec...;-)
results look great. If I had that Id be tellin people it's some kind of Harry Potter scar haha, aliens came down and cut me open, made me incredibly smart!
results look great. If I had that Id be tellin people it's some kind of Harry Potter scar haha, aliens came down and cut me open, made me incredibly smart! Hey,
Well I guess I was focussing more on the improvement in the indent than the improvement in colour. I do agree that just the improvement in the dent alone would make the treatment very worth it. (I know it would be worth it for me if I got that kind of improvement! )
-Luke
recell is also used for Vitiligo. Avita have opened a new site http://www.skinnet.info/ . Here you can see examples of it being used for various conditions.
I think Dr Rawlins and Dr Maini both use recell for treating this condition. I suggest calling them to find out.
From the case studies it looks like the Vitiligo patches are dermabraded to pin-point bleeding and recell is then applied. So a very similar procedure to what I had done.
Good luck.
No worries Investor!
As i just said in Borecs thread, Im going to get a second opinion on what to do next from Jeremy rawlins. I feel that, the pigment has migrated inwards from the edges. If i did recell again, it could migrate further. Dr Ahmed said not to risk doing it again when i got such a good result, and suggested PRP instead. I dont see why a second shot of recell is a 'risk'......so anyway, a second opinion is always good.
I had a holiday last week and the outer edges of the whitened area have tanned....woop!! The centre is still pale though
Ok I've just seen Jeremy rawlins who didnt try to 'sell' me any treatments - in fact his advice was to do nothing and wait for at least 18 months past Recell. he said he had seem patients at 9 months that he felt disappointed with, then by 18 months it had really changed.
So, sit tight is the advice.
I am feeling a bit hmmmm...because his immediate thought was to excise.......now i didnt want to excise because ive had 3 excisions in the past. I didnt even want to consider it. . but as he pointed out, who did my excisions before? were they best qualified? but to excise now...well that would be to negate all that time on money spent on recell, if im just going to cut it out and start again. Hindsight...a glorious thing...NOT! So anyway. Wait 6 months. Reasses. POSSIBLY excise the top part of the scar, as the bottom half seems to be fairly well flat and pigmented now.
he did say that in my case (i.e a small area) , using laser or dermabrasion pre-recell was neither here nor there - so at least im not kicking myself for that.
SO...to get my money's worth from the consultation, I asked him about a big skin graft scar on my arm (about 12cm x 5cm). He was really sweet about what a mess it is. I'm so used to it, it's like, whatever. But he said he could excise it in two stages. So I might do that. I have plenty of other scars to work on!
Hey Gbl,
I'm sorry to hear they recommended excising the scar, especially given how much you have already done improving the current scar! Sulks...
I must admit, I've been following your posts for quite done time as I have accident scarring too, although a little more severe and widespread. I have one one cheek the same size as yours and quite a few others on my forehead, nose and chin. Darn hypopigmented scars lol!!! They are hard to cover with make up and the shiny texture bugs me..
I had a deep fx co2 laser treatment about 8 months ago and believe I saw the same pigmentation creeping in from the sides. The scars are white/grey and i saw spots of normal skin coming in.
Since then I've wondered if I've imagined it. As the scars are still severe, however, I've just undergone another co2 treatment so fingers crossed! I've had it done 4 days ago and although still very red, I've noticed some are returning back to their former apprarences. After my last treatment, I noticed much of the skin had crept in around week two, so I'm assuming it might be the same this time. Was this the same with yours?
I want you to know that you seem like a wonderful woman and your posts have given me so much strength to keep going, especially when treatments for these kinds of scars seem so limited.
You've definitely put some more info out there and I hope you keep it up
hey there! Well, he didnt recommend excising the scar, but I saw the thought going through his mind and he did admit he was slightly tempted to suggest excision for the top half. I just KNOW if he had seen it before Recell he would have definitely recommended it......BUT..i went through 10 years with a straight excision scar and i hated it. Being where it was, it looked like a big frown. So i stick by what i did. If i do end up excising the top part, i could maybe skew it a bit so it doesnt look like one long line.
But anyway..it might not even come to that!!!
From the recell, the texture isnt shiney and make up actually sits on it well. I wouldnt do CO2 laser on it personally, as thats what caused all the hypopigmentation!
Its a shame i cant show photos of the full scar journey, but back then i wouldnt have been psychologically capable of immortalising it on camera..I just couldnt.
Don't worry about adding more pics. You already have posted more than most. If you add any more, it might crash the site!!! Then youd be blamed! Lol
When you say the lasers caused more problems.. What do you mean if you don't mInd me asking.
I always felt it helped more skin come in from the sides, but again it could be wishful thinking.
well at the time i had laser treatment, i had already had 2 surgical excisions, which had left a clear line with uneveness . I had laser to ty to resurface the area, and smooth it down more. Its hard to explain how it looked. It was more like the skin had been folded, rather than a neat thin scar line. I did have many laser treatments over the years which werent a problem but the last session i had went very deep and while it did obliterate the original scar, it also left a long rectangular dent of unpigmented area where the laser had been. I never had any issue with pigmentation until then. It left a worse scar than what had been there previously.
Obviously i didnt want to excise it given the fact that I had been unhappy with excision results before.
How the scar is now, is the best its been. Certainly much better than the big white dent,. But in truth this has been a long an expensive road for ultimately, not much improvement from how it was before the laser damage.