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Hopefully, this doesn't end up like Isolagen if it works. Isolagen showed impressive results in an acne scar study done for the FDA. The FDA rejected it, saying the method was too complex or something like that. The company filed bankruptcy a few years ago.
We should try a Deep/SCAAR Fx + ReCell combo a few months from now, there was a guy named Ernestio who did Subscision + Repair + ReCell and had amazing results.
http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php/topic/256333-combo-treatment-subsicion-fraxel-re-cell/
We should try a Deep/SCAAR Fx + ReCell combo a few months from now, there was a guy named Ernestio who did Subscision + Repair + ReCell and had amazing results.
http://www.acne.org/...fraxel-re-cell/
I don't know about you but I can't afford ReCell. Is it even offered in the USA or North America? Even if it was here, I don't think I could justify spending that kind of money. It would be cheaper to do Deep FX three or four times and achieve the same results with our type of scarring. Your scarring is not that severe.
We should try a Deep/SCAAR Fx + ReCell combo a few months from now, there was a guy named Ernestio who did Subscision + Repair + ReCell and had amazing results.
http://www.acne.org/...fraxel-re-cell/
I don't know about you but I can't afford ReCell. Is it even offered in the USA or North America? Even if it was here, I don't think I could justify spending that kind of money. It would be cheaper to do Deep FX three or four times and achieve the same results with our type of scarring. Your scarring is not that severe.
True, its human nature to judge your self the harshest.
Surely it cant be that expansive, they just scape off some skin and spray it on you.
The ReCell is currently going FDA clinical studies so it will definatly be a while until this laser comes out.
Isolagen showed a lot more promise for existing acne scars. The FDA did not approve it. Hopefully, someone will save the company, so they can continue pursuing FDA approval.
www.realself.com/site/search?q=Isolagen
I am not sure if Isolagen would be a permanent fix to scars, but it was similar where they took skin from behind your ear to create a solution that was then injected by your doctor.
ReCell is actually not intended for treatment of existing scars. In order to treat existing scars with it, they have to wound your skin, and let it heal all over again. I would be surprised if it gets FDA approval for acne scar treatment. The process would be extremely risky.
Surely it cant be that expansive, they just scape off some skin and spray it on you.
It will be VERY expensive because you will have to use laser to recreate your wounds. They can't just spray it on existing scars.
When this boy was treated in the UK where the technology has existed for years now, it cost:
Mr Rawlins estimates Zeds operation cost 5,000, but the figure varies between NHS trusts. The ReCell machine costs 800.
5800 pounds is about $8980 at today's exchange rate. That's just the cost to treat the boy using recell. That doesn't include a plastic surgeon's profit, aftercare, etc.
When this technology first hits the USA, it's going to be really expensive. It's not like ReCell is widely available outside the USA either. There are doctors who specialize in it, so people travel to them.
Of course, this is just my opinion. I could be wrong. Even if it gets FDA approval for acne scar treatment, I think it will be years before it's affordable, like CO2 laser, in America.
Oh wow that is extremely expansive,
I think ill just 3-4 Deep FXs
did you decide how you were going to schedule your 2nd appointment.
I haven't decided on a doctor yet. I'm still doing consultations. I am being a lot more thorough this time around, and want to be sure I choose someone who is going to produce really impressive results.
In terms of cost, this is an interesting analysis of what it *might* cost when it hits the US market:
Keep in mind, the cost is just for the ReCell kit. It would probably be cheaper to travel to the UK for treatment once it hits the US market.
Isolagen showed a lot more promise for existing acne scars. The FDA did not approve it. Hopefully, someone will save the company, so they can continue pursuing FDA approval.
Hey tokyogirl isolagen is back its name is Laviv now and the company's name is Fibrocell Science. Its approved in the U.S for fine lines and being tested for scars but some doctors are using it on their patients already.
Hey tokyogirl isolagen is back its name is Laviv now and the company's name is Fibrocell Science. Its approved in the U.S for fine lines and being tested for scars but some doctors are using it on their patients already.
Thanks for the info! I had no idea. I will have to research this.
I guess there is hope for ReCell then. Although, I still don't think I could afford it. 
Wow! Laviv sounds risky. People have grown nodules from it. That's highly unfortunate. No wonder why it didn't get FDA approval for scars.
I hate nodules, I am 99% clear except for this nodule on the bottom of my jaw since January.
I have looked up how to get rid of nodules and I never really get a answer, do you possibly know how to get rid of a nodule?
I hate nodules, I am 99% clear except for this nodule on the bottom of my jaw since January.
I have looked up how to get rid of nodules and I never really get a answer, do you possibly know how to get rid of a nodule?
Get a doctor to treat it. I'd have less scars right now if I knew a proper way to do it at home. Thankfully, I haven't had any in a few years. Sorry, I can't be of more help.
where did u read that laviv gives nodules i really havent heard many cases of that happening..and every procedure has risks but i think laviv is rather safe since its dealing with ur own collagen
I first read it here on the forum. I then googled it, and eventually found highlights from the study they did for wrinkle treatment:
http://www.fda.gov/d...uAAGPfg&cad=rja
It would be interesting to see the FDA study for acne scars. There must be a reason it was rejected.
heres another study..its being investigated
That's actually a press release from the company, so it is biased. I am not knocking laviv. I think it's exciting. I just think it's risky because they originally sought approval for acne scar treatment, and then changed their course to wrinkles. I would be interested to see the clinical studies, coming from the government, on what they found during acne scar trials.
I did find a little information on what was submitted to the FDA and a couple responses, but it's limited. For example, they excluded patients who had subcision done to a scar in the last 12 months in their trials, and there were issues with nodules (although, most were resolved within 3 months) but the FDA did respond about the issue. There's a lot more out there on the wrinkle study. I just find it concerning.
I know there are risks with every procedure. I just like to be aware of the risks. In this case, no one really knows the risks because there is no reliable scientific data out there. The company has shareholders. They can release whatever information they choose.
For example, it would be interesting to see the outcome of this study and exactly what kind of scarring was involved, plus what procedures, if any, were combined with Laviv treatment:
http://clinicaltrial...how/NCT00642642
Also, I have to correct something I said above. They excluded patients that required surgical untethering of scars from a burn scar study that was eventually withdrawn.
ADD-ON:
I am not sure what they consider "severe acne scarring" but as shown on the page, these were some of the exclusion requirements from the "severe acne" treatment study (you can confirm that at my above link):
- Presence of hypertrophic scars on the cheeks.
- More than 20% of treatment area comprised of ice pick scars or sinus tracts
- Unilateral or unbalanced acne scar distribution.
- Physical attributes which prevent the assessment or treatment of the acne scars.
To me, severe would include these attributes.
http://www.fibrocell...resentation.pdf
- heres the companies presentation for laviv and theres some good b/a pics of acne scars...tell me what you think.. i really think laviv is promising for scars and if it does have sideeffects its mostly temporary.
more b/a pics
I just got the treatment and i can tell you the only side effect was mild brusing from injection. It's safer than anything really. I also heard from a doctor that it seemed to work better on scars than on wrinkles in trials, and I can tell i saw changes (positive) within the first week of my first injection so while i still have a ways to go with my treatment I just thought I'd let you guys know about my experience so far.
keep us updated...btw are u doing any other treatments combined with the laviv? yes subcision and needling