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(@seabs135)

Posted : 11/02/2010 12:49 pm

What impressed me about this is Enalapril removed a 25year old full thickness scar in 3 to 4 months.

 

 

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(@seabs135)

Posted : 11/02/2010 12:55 pm

never mind...

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Posted : 11/02/2010 2:57 pm

never mind...

Why nevermind?

 

I like to read the opinions here , you have investigated this? I believe that operates directly as reducer tgf b1, then serious likely to help. (like kitoscell path in pills).

 

I hope this work :) Unfortunately there is almost no information on this, we ourselves check if it works.

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Posted : 11/02/2010 6:56 pm

never mind...

Why nevermind?

 

I like to read the opinions here , you have investigated this? I believe that operates directly as reducer tgf b1, then serious likely to help. (like kitoscell path in pills).

 

I hope this work :) Unfortunately there is almost no information on this, we ourselves check if it works.

 

 

 

The never mind quote, was because I answered above.:)

 

This stuff has removed a full thickness wound in 3month. Kitoscell has never moved a spot in 3month as far as I can tell.

 

We ourselves = empowerment.

 

 

 

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(@maldition)

Posted : 11/02/2010 7:09 pm

never mind...

Why nevermind?

 

I like to read the opinions here , you have investigated this? I believe that operates directly as reducer tgf b1, then serious likely to help. (like kitoscell path in pills).

 

I hope this work :) Unfortunately there is almost no information on this, we ourselves check if it works.

 

 

 

The never mind quote, was because I answered above.:)

 

This stuff has removed a full thickness wound in 3month. Kitoscell has never moved a spot in 3month as far as I can tell.

 

We ourselves = empowerment.

 

The method is like that of kitoscell seems that 'regulates' the collagen through tgfb.

 

Now, it seems that through pills, the effect is more faster. 4 Months seems little time to remove a scar, i hope that be true.

 

I am going to take the concept of roaccutane, the roaccutane pills acts better than if you use via gel.

 

We will see that happens, all this is with patience.

 

My single fear is the side effects of enalapril, like the angioedema (a side effect of enalapril), it's very terrorific.

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Posted : 11/02/2010 8:34 pm

The method is like that of kitoscell seems that 'regulates' the collagen through tgfb.

 

Now, it seems that through pills, the effect is more faster. 4 Months seems little time to remove a scar, i hope that be true.

 

I am going to take the concept of roaccutane, the roaccutane pills acts better than if you use via gel.

 

We will see that happens, all this is with patience.

 

My single fear is the side effects of enalapril, like the angioedema (a side effect of enalapril), it's very terrorific.

 

From my limited research I believe it is a very safe drug, especially when take in small doses (10mg). Angioedema does sound scary though but I think I read only 1 in a 100 get it.

 

I'm going to the doctors on Friday. Hopefully he will prescribe me the stuff.

 

I have to say I can't really believe this will work for me but I'm willing to try it. I just can't believe that after all this time looking for a cure it turns out to be as easy as swallowing a pill. Here's hoping....

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Posted : 11/02/2010 11:50 pm

The method is like that of kitoscell seems that 'regulates' the collagen through tgfb.

 

Now, it seems that through pills, the effect is more faster. 4 Months seems little time to remove a scar, i hope that be true.

 

I am going to take the concept of roaccutane, the roaccutane pills acts better than if you use via gel.

 

We will see that happens, all this is with patience.

 

My single fear is the side effects of enalapril, like the angioedema (a side effect of enalapril), it's very terrorific.

 

From my limited research I believe it is a very safe drug, especially when take in small doses (10mg). Angioedema does sound scary though but I think I read only 1 in a 100 get it.

 

I'm going to the doctors on Friday. Hopefully he will prescribe me the stuff.

 

I have to say I can't really believe this will work for me but I'm willing to try it. I just can't believe that after all this time looking for a cure it turns out to be as easy as swallowing a pill. Here's hoping....

 

I believe that this can be a good thing, i wish you the best of luck, i am going to try also. :rolleyes:

 

Here the important thing is to get a reduction of the scar on a 40 percent, with that as serious a miracle in these times where we are so late in the field of scarlees healing. :dance:

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Posted : 11/03/2010 10:30 pm

hello all, i am just over co2 laser and currently my face is pinkish. Can someone here recommend me some method which i can promote collagen growth and heal better?

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Posted : 11/04/2010 12:14 am

Enalapril reduces tgf b1.

 

 

 

 

[Dynamic observation of enalapril on the expression of TGF-beta1, CTGF, Smad7 and alpha-SMA in rats with unilateral ureteral obstruction]

[Article in Chinese]

 

Wang L, Ning W, Tao L, Wang L, Peng Z.

 

Department of Nephrology, Xiangya Hospital, Central South University, Changsha 410008, China.

 

Abstract

OBJECTIVE: To dynamically observe the effect of enalapril on the expression of transforming growth factor beta1 (TGF-beta1), connective tissue growth factor (CTGF), alpha-smooth muscle actin (alpha-SMA), and Smad7 in the obstructed kidney after unilateral ureteral obstruction (UUO) in rats, and to investigate the effect of enalapril on transdifferentiation of renal tubular epithelial cells.

 

METHODS: The model rats were induced by ligating the left ureter. Male Sprague-Dawley (SD) rats were divided into a normal control (sham-surgery) group, a model group, and a treatment group (enalapril 10 mg/ (kg * d) by gastric gavage from 24 h before the obstruction day). Rats were sacrificed on day 3, 7, 14, 21 after UUO was initiated. Sections of the renal tissue were stained with hematoxylin and eosin stain, which were used for histological and morphometric studies of the pathological change of the obstructed kidney. Real-time PCR was performed to examine the expression of TGF-beta1 mRNA and CTGF mRNA, and Western blot was performed to examine the expression of Smad7, alpha-SMA, and CTGF in the obstructed kidney.

 

RESULTS: The score of renal interstitial lesion increased with the extension of obstruction. The expression of TGF-beta1 mRNA, CTGF mRNA, alpha-SMA and CTGF increased in the model group with the extension of obstruction; but Smad7 expression decreased. Compared with the UUO group,the degree of renal interstitial lesion and the expression of TGF-beta1 mRNA, CTGF mRNA, alpha-SMA and CTGF were decreased, but the expression of Smad7 increased in the treatment group. Enalapril could significantly decrease TGF-beta1 mRNA on day 3, 7, 14, 21 after UUO. Enalapril could significantly affect the expression of CTGF mRNA,alpha-SMA,CTGF and Smad7 on day 3, 7, 14 after UUO initiation.

 

CONCLUSION: Enalapril significantly alleviates renal interstitial fibrosis by suppressing the expression of TGF-beta1, CTGF and alpha-SMA, upregulating the expression of Smad7, and has better effect at early stage (within 14 days after the UUO).

 

 

 

 

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Posted : 11/04/2010 5:38 am

By the way i see in the insulin better regenerating that with many treatments.

 

Insulin this to the sale, according to the report is injected only once.

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 11/05/2010 2:38 pm

Here's the entire presentation Jerry E. Cooley did at the IAHRS meeting last month:

 

Part 1&2

http://www.iahrs.org/news/dr-jerry-cooley-...e-presentation/

 

Part 3&4

http://www.iahrs.org/news/dr-jerry-cooley-...ation-part-3-4/

 

I've only seen the first minute or so but it seems very cool.

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Posted : 11/06/2010 11:06 pm

Hey all,

 

There is also a very interesting interview on the IAHRS.org website (tried to post link) with Dr. Gary Hitzig who has worked alongside Dr. Jerry Cooley. Dr. Hitzig is the pioneer in using ACell MatriStem for hair restoration.

 

In part two of the interview the doctor discusses the correct method when applying ACell to scars on the face!

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(@seabs135)

Posted : 11/07/2010 3:50 am

Hey all,

 

There is also a very interesting interview on the IAHRS.org website (tried to post link) with Dr. Gary Hitzig who has worked alongside Dr. Jerry Cooley. Dr. Hitzig is the pioneer in using ACell MatriStem for hair restoration.

 

In part two of the interview the doctor discusses the correct method when applying ACell to scars on the face!

 

I've just listened to it and at about 11:30 minutes in on part two he describes a protocol to remove scarring from the face.

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Posted : 11/07/2010 11:47 am

Hey all,

 

There is also a very interesting interview on the IAHRS.org website (tried to post link) with Dr. Gary Hitzig who has worked alongside Dr. Jerry Cooley. Dr. Hitzig is the pioneer in using ACell MatriStem for hair restoration.

 

In part two of the interview the doctor discusses the correct method when applying ACell to scars on the face!

 

I've just listened to it and at about 11:30 minutes in on part two he describes a protocol to remove scarring from the face.

 

There is any picture about it?

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 11/07/2010 3:34 pm

http://www.iahrs.org/news/spencer-kobren-i...y-hitzig-acell/

 

In six weeks you've got your skin back, according to Hitzig if you use ACell in a certain way which is if I remember correctly very similar to the way that solo_premium used it. So it sounds unlikely... I mean Hitzig doesn't have a very good reputation. He posted photos on a hairloss forum which were obviously intended to deceive and many people speak negatively about him as a doctor. I don't mean to be a downer but...if this was true solo_premium would have seen scarless healing and he hasn't, so...

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Posted : 11/07/2010 3:56 pm

 

Hey all,

 

There is also a very interesting interview on the IAHRS.org website (tried to post link) with Dr. Gary Hitzig who has worked alongside Dr. Jerry Cooley. Dr. Hitzig is the pioneer in using ACell MatriStem for hair restoration.

 

In part two of the interview the doctor discusses the correct method when applying ACell to scars on the face!

 

I've just listened to it and at about 11:30 minutes in on part two he describes a protocol to remove scarring from the face.

 

There is any picture about it?

 

 

On the acell website were there is a full thickness 7 X 3 wound that remodelled back and a mohs surgery wound.

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Posted : 11/07/2010 4:06 pm

http://www.iahrs.org/news/spencer-kobren-i...y-hitzig-acell/

 

In six weeks you've got your skin back, according to Hitzig if you use ACell in a certain way which is if I remember correctly very similar to the way that solo_premium used it. So it sounds unlikely... I mean Hitzig doesn't have a very good reputation. He posted photos on a hairloss forum which were obviously intended to deceive and many people speak negatively about him as a doctor. I don't mean to be a downer but...if this was true solo_premium would have seen scarless healing and he hasn't, so...

 

Solo_Premium didn't use the powder he used the sheet(s), and I dont think he used more than one sheet...

 

The biggest problem I think Acell has IMO is getting the protocols sorted. If they don't get the protocols, if it goes wrong they blame matristem. And the name Acell then gets tarnished and as a knee jerk people write it off etc. As has been shown before.

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Posted : 11/07/2010 4:08 pm

On the acell website were there is a full thickness 7 X 3 wound that remodelled back and a mohs surgery wound.

 

I can't find it... Do you have a link?

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Posted : 11/07/2010 4:14 pm

On the acell website were there is a full thickness 7 X 3 wound that remodelled back and a mohs surgery wound.

 

I can't find it... Do you have a link?

 

 

I'm sure you'd have seen them before

 

http://www.acell.com/files/Plastic_Surgery_Soft.pdf

http://www.acell.com/files/Full_Thickness_Repair.pdf

IMO these show site specific healing from big area wounds.

 

The pictures dont mention in any details of the protocols used though.

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Posted : 11/07/2010 4:16 pm

On the acell website were there is a full thickness 7 X 3 wound that remodelled back and a mohs surgery wound.

 

I can't find it... Do you have a link?

 

 

I'm sure you'd have seen them before

 

http://www.acell.com/files/Plastic_Surgery_Soft.pdf

http://www.acell.com/files/Full_Thickness_Repair.pdf

IMO these show site specific healing from big area wounds.

 

The pictures dont mention in any details of the protocols used though.

 

 

Thanks man. I'll check that out.

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Posted : 11/07/2010 4:21 pm

My best guess on acell failing would involve bacteria getting into the wound. I'm trying to get a family member to try this the legal way through a derm and we intend to use a matristem/medihoney mix to prevent bacterial issues, problem is it will be very costly to treat a wound this way. Since you have to change the medihoney dressing every day for the honey to be effective in eliminating bacterial infections. This is why I have issues with the price of the Matristem products. We wont be able to do this until January.

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Posted : 11/07/2010 6:19 pm

By the way i see in the insulin better regenerating that with photos of juvista.

 

Insulin this to the sale, according to the report is injected only once, if i led by this picture, I believe that the result is much better than with juvista.

Wow i'm tempted to try this on my own...inject insulin at the scar site but i'm not condoning this to others.

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Posted : 11/07/2010 9:54 pm

Hey people,

 

I've found a recent example of repair by Hitzig using acell.

 

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_en...ast_answer.html

 

 

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Posted : 11/08/2010 6:47 am

Hey people,

 

I've found a recent example of repair by Hitzig using acell.

 

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_en...ast_answer.html

 

 

I see some hair fold over games in play here, just like last time.

 

Let's see him do something like this using video updates. With the comb raking it's way through the entire back of the head. It looks like he's dropping a higher layer of hair over the scar in the last photo.

 

Notice the lack of the lower hairline of the neck in the last photo. If we saw that neckline area in the last photo. We would know the "area" he's showing us is not the same area in the previous photos.

 

I'm a sculptor. real world and digital cgi. I am a very spatual creature. I see this guys game from a mile away. Is he even able to get the Acell stuff?

I do see some hairs coming from the healing wound, but those could be implanted. Personally I think this "Dr." -Giving his "Past Lies"- Needs to do this with a patient with a hair style length that is no longer than 5mm for each photo/video session.

 

This way no manner of Hair comb play or hair fold play can hide the truth of the wounds real healing results.

 

It should be done with VIDEO! Photoshop makes it too easy to lie.

 

You cant tell me that this dude cant do a video once a month for 8 months. Pictures don't mean anything in this world of digital manipulation!

 

Let's see a video that covers an 8 month journey with a hair cut no longer than 5mm while

moving the camera around the subject so we can see the face /or ears- if they are shy- so we can be sure it's the same person.

 

This guy already try pulling everyone's leg once before. Why are you still following him? He's a con artist! That or Acell is bullshit, just like that mederma stuff.

 

I want to contact Acell ask if they sold to him. Explain why because of his past claim.

 

I don't know why he is still playing the fold over game with the hair. I see it plain a day. I'm sure some of you do as well, but you don't want to believe it, because you want the cure to be real.

 

 

I believe in Acell still but I swear this dude is seriously shady.I don't trust him and these new pictures are just as deceptive as the last ones he tried to use as proof.

 

Yeah that's it! I'm calling Acell.

 

I want to know if this guy actually uses them. He has lied before.

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Posted : 11/08/2010 1:35 pm

Hey people,

 

I've found a recent example of repair by Hitzig using acell.

 

http://www.hairsite.com/hair-loss/forum_en...ast_answer.html

 

 

I see some hair fold over games in play here, just like last time.

 

Let's see him do something like this using video updates. With the comb raking it's way through the entire back of the head. It looks like he's dropping a higher layer of hair over the scar in the last photo.

 

Notice the lack of the lower hairline of the neck in the last photo. If we saw that neckline area in the last photo. We would know the "area" he's showing us is not the same area in the previous photos.

 

I'm a sculptor. real world and digital cgi. I am a very spatual creature. I see this guys game from a mile away. Is he even able to get the Acell stuff?

I do see some hairs coming from the healing wound, but those could be implanted. Personally I think this "Dr." -Giving his "Past Lies"- Needs to do this with a patient with a hair style length that is no longer than 5mm for each photo/video session.

 

This way no manner of Hair comb play or hair fold play can hide the truth of the wounds real healing results.

 

It should be done with VIDEO! Photoshop makes it too easy to lie.

 

You cant tell me that this dude cant do a video once a month for 8 months. Pictures don't mean anything in this world of digital manipulation!

 

Let's see a video that covers an 8 month journey with a hair cut no longer than 5mm while

moving the camera around the subject so we can see the face /or ears- if they are shy- so we can be sure it's the same person.

 

This guy already try pulling everyone's leg once before. Why are you still following him? He's a con artist! That or Acell is bullshit, just like that mederma stuff.

 

I want to contact Acell ask if they sold to him. Explain why because of his past claim.

 

I don't know why he is still playing the fold over game with the hair. I see it plain a day. I'm sure some of you do as well, but you don't want to believe it, because you want the cure to be real.

 

 

I believe in Acell still but I swear this dude is seriously shady.I don't trust him and these new pictures are just as deceptive as the last ones he tried to use as proof.

 

Yeah that's it! I'm calling Acell.

 

I want to know if this guy actually uses them. He has lied before.

 

 

IMO those photos are much better than the ones before, which 'some' IMO were good. And in no way can I see scar in this set.

 

 

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