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(@niketgandhir)

Posted : 09/22/2022 9:35 am

On 8/25/2022 at 10:51 PM, Catharsis2018 said:

Maybe never

I really hope this isn't true :(


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(@niketgandhir)

Posted : 09/23/2022 1:04 am

https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/20595131221095348

 

New research paper published regarding scarless healing. It mentions Verteporfin.


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(@david4bay)

Posted : 09/24/2022 11:00 am

Will this forum still be active 20 years from now? Seems so. My guess is it'll be 70 years before anything tangible comes out.


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(@binga)

Posted : 09/25/2022 11:30 am

On 9/21/2022 at 12:21 PM, delcabe30 said:

Hello good afternoon, does anyone know how well the microcoring called ellacor manufactured by cytrellis works, which says that it removes 8% of the skin in each session with needles and manages to tighten the skin, I have seen videos of wrinkles, but I have not seen in acne scars, they say that in miami dermatology & laser institute they have used it for acne scars and it has worked well for them but they do not have videos or images, it seems promising for acne scars because with several sessions more skin is removed and tightens more skin, if anyone has information or videos and photos please let us know, thanks.

Doctors do excision to remove acne scars. Same concept but mechanized. Takes a long time to heal ..waiting for better post procedure treatment


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(@kawin-ethayarajh)

Posted : 09/26/2022 2:22 am

Complete regeneration of HUMAN hair follicles with verteporfin: https://folliclethought.com/donor-healing-study-with-verteporfin-by-dr-barghouthi/

A Turkish hair transplant surgeon injected different concentrations of verteporfin after punching out follicular units for extraction. At all concentrations, the injected sites regenerated **with hair** 84 days later while the control sites scarred over. The fact that this is happening at all is huge -- it means that complete regeneration of tissue (with hair!) -- is possible with verteporfin.

And this is with a one-time injection as well. Ostensibly, doing multiple injections of verteporfin and re-excising the percentage that failed can eventually lead to complete regeneration of scarred areas, even if it takes a while.


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(@niketgandhir)

Posted : 09/26/2022 2:58 am

36 minutes ago, k95 said:

Complete regeneration of HUMAN hair follicles with verteporfin: https://folliclethought.com/donor-healing-study-with-verteporfin-by-dr-barghouthi/

A Turkish hair transplant surgeon injected different concentrations of verteporfin after punching out follicular units for extraction. At all concentrations, the injected sites regenerated **with hair** 84 days later while the control sites scarred over. The fact that this is happening at all is huge -- it means that complete regeneration of tissue (with hair!) -- is possible with verteporfin.

And this is with a one-time injection as well. Ostensibly, doing multiple injections of verteporfin and re-excising the percentage that failed can eventually lead to complete regeneration of scarred areas, even if it takes a while.

Thank you for this update.


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Posted : 10/01/2022 9:25 am

Theres a new microcoring technology, that also mentions scars in their presentation. Its by Venus concepts, called the Venus Aime (Robocor), its supposed to remove up to 15% tissue during a single session. The presentation starts on page 27 of the document.

anyone have any more information?

https://ir.venusconcept.com/static-files/b37445d9-f7ca-4a2d-bb90-4629d7debd7e


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(@uruguay)

Posted : 10/27/2022 5:43 pm

Any verteporfin updates?'


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Posted : 10/31/2022 10:36 pm

Results from the Dr. Barghouthi FUE hair transplant trial with verterpofin at 119 days post-op (left is control, right is with verteporfin). At 0.4 g injected **one time**, it seems that roughly half of the holes regenerate with hyperpigmentation and hair follicles. Note that these are 1 mm holes he is trying to regenerate, which is different from trying to avoid a stitched incision scar, as Longaker attempted in the pig trials. Thread:  https://folliclethought.com/donor-healing-study-with-verteporfin-by-dr-barghouthi/

Seems very promising. On the hairlossrestoration thread, Barghouthi says that he is trying to standardize the method of injection so that he can get better results.

wide-donor-area-0.4-0.32-119-days.jpg

Hypertrophic scar on nose disappeared after excision, closure with dissolveable suture, and **one time** injection with veteporfin. This was done in India (the patient had to bring his own verteporfin to the doctor). Realself thread: https://www.realself.com/review/scar-removal-scarless-healing-verteporfin-scar-revision

Note that this is easier than what the hair loss guys are trying to do, which is regenerate a 1 mm diameter hole (FUE punch site).

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(@maciej-wx1)

Posted : 11/03/2022 1:33 pm

Witam,

Chcialbym ozywic temat leczenia bezbliznowego za pomoca wertoprofinu.

Kto jest chetny?

 

Pozdrowienia

 


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(@niketgandhir)

Posted : 11/05/2022 6:12 am

On 11/1/2022 at 9:06 AM, k95 said:

Results from the Dr. Barghouthi FUE hair transplant trial with verterpofin at 119 days post-op (left is control, right is with verteporfin). At 0.4 g injected **one time**, it seems that roughly half of the holes regenerate with hyperpigmentation and hair follicles. Note that these are 1 mm holes he is trying to regenerate, which is different from trying to avoid a stitched incision scar, as Longaker attempted in the pig trials. Thread:  https://folliclethought.com/donor-healing-study-with-verteporfin-by-dr-barghouthi/

Seems very promising. On the hairlossrestoration thread, Barghouthi says that he is trying to standardize the method of injection so that he can get better results.

wide-donor-area-0.4-0.32-119-days.jpg

Hypertrophic scar on nose disappeared after excision, closure with dissolveable suture, and **one time** injection with veteporfin. This was done in India (the patient had to bring his own verteporfin to the doctor). Realself thread: https://www.realself.com/review/scar-removal-scarless-healing-verteporfin-scar-revision

Note that this is easier than what the hair loss guys are trying to do, which is regenerate a 1 mm diameter hole (FUE punch site).

userimage-fd6ee0b1-d8e9-4a2a-b372-ce0d20

Thank you for this update.


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(@troner)

Posted : 11/15/2022 4:43 pm

a study shows that a gel with verteporfin is being developed

despite the fact that they are open and infected wounds, the results are very good

I believe that exeresis of acne scars and suturing could provide fantastic results.

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Posted : 11/16/2022 4:09 am

11 hours ago, Troner said:

a study shows that a gel with verteporfin is being developed

despite the fact that they are open and infected wounds, the results are very good

I believe that exeresis of acne scars and suturing could provide fantastic results.

Screenshot_20221115-150622_Telegram.jpg

What is this? verteporfin?mice result?


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(@mimiytrewq)

Posted : 12/08/2022 5:56 pm

Is anyone gonna try this out???


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(@eternal-maldition-backs)

Posted : 12/16/2022 3:09 pm

What is the injection method of Veterporfin? Should it be injected subcutaneously or intramuscularly or in what form? and how much per day? How is Veterporfin's liquid solution made?


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Posted : 12/29/2022 5:04 am

Hey guys, so this thread seems to have stopped for now. But i would still want to hear more about the Verteporfin. As far as i can tell, this stuff is INCREDIBLY expensive here in Europe (about 1800 USD per 15mg injection alone). Did this person with the great scar healing only do one injection or multiple? At what intervals and doses? Is this known? Also, like @eternal-maldition-backs asked: I assume this was injected intradermally/subcutanously into the scar? The only approved medical application of Verteporfin uses intravenous application, to treat an eye disorder with photoactivation after letting the drug circulate through the blood to reach the eye. I wonder if it known if subcutanous injection results in toxicity or is contraindicated (i.e. if the drug does not disperse fast enough out of the skin). Please guys, if anyone knows more info please share! They recently discovered it might also work for skeletal muscle fibrosis.


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(@cazimierza)

Posted : 03/16/2023 11:11 am

perche nessuno ha piu scritto nel forum dal 2022? il forum Scarless Healing e stato chiuso?


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Posted : 05/14/2023 12:14 pm

someone has news of Sunogel or verteporfn? otherwise I discovered this interesting article : Scientists unlock the key to scar-free skin healing, in mice - STAT (statnews.com) " Longaker envisions a time when doctors will be able to inject a bit of verteporfin around a laceration or incision as they stitch it up, encouraging the wound to repair itself slowly, carefully, and completely. Thats scar prevention. But Longaker said the drug might be able to erase old scars too. It would require some minor surgery to cut the damaged tissue out and inject the verteporfin in. But for particularly disfiguring or painful scars that limit peoples mobility, the procedure might be an attractive option."


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(@derpsnow)

Posted : 06/06/2023 3:05 am

Any update?


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(@slave-of-jesus)

Posted : 08/04/2023 8:24 am

I find this discovery very interesting, I think the future looks bright! : Biological Glue from Only Lipoic Acid for Scarless Wound Healing by Anti-inflammation and TGF- Regulation | Chemistry of Materials (acs.org)


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(@delcabe30)

Posted : 10/25/2023 3:38 pm

Good afternoon, does anyone know if ellacor is capable of eliminating acne scars, since it removes part of the skin and they close?

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Posted : 11/22/2023 11:14 pm

@delcabe30 I have the same question. I found this on some med spa's website: [Edited link out]

 

It seemed to significantly improve the young guy's acne scarring, make 50-70%. It has been out for several months now so I wonder why there aren't more posts of it...


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Posted : 12/14/2023 5:50 am

I want to get verteporfin treatment on my scars.

Who can do this?

Who can help me?

Please contact me.

 


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(@gantz)

Posted : 01/16/2024 9:14 am

A new study regarding mircro-coring for acne scars just came out.

There are also few photos, they indeed look interesting. The result isn't perfect (scar isn't 100% gone), but considering the scar before, I would say that I've never seen such an improvement. It would work very good with needles of somewhat smaller size, or with verteporfin.

What I like most is that study isn't concerned about skin lifting and has nothing to do with Cytrellis (who don't seem to care about scars stuff).

 

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/srt.13545


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