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Micro-coring in terms of mechanism of work is more similar to ablative fractional lasers (both invented by Anderson, both remove skin in columns) without the dreaded energy side effects and with shorter downtime. It has the derm community all excited as it is new, revolutionary and they cansell it as a safe alternative to lasers orfacelift. In my opinion, it won't be able to give dramatic results with the current coverage it uses, rather a fresher younger look for ageing 40 or 50 year olds. There is a lot of demand for this, and the angi-ageing market is actually way bigger than the scar correction market.
Cytrellis are harder to get information out of with regard to scars but they hinted to me they are working on some development devicesin the background and to stay tuned.
Recros medica have a little more info on there site with ambitions to target scars and tattoos but they are lagging behind on the timeline. They believe they can remove tattoos in 4 to 5 treatments and reduce the surface area of scars.
Skin rejuvenation/tightening will always take precedence when it comes towho is first. Everyone gets old so the market is huge, not everyone has scars or tattoos but they are still big markets and usually follow but are also harder to treat historically.
On 7/6/2021 at 7:08 AM, lehran said:Hi guys, I haven't been here for a long time !
Regarding Elastagen: the scientific drafts with before/after pictures regarding the potency of elastagen for fixing stretch marks should be coming out in a few months according to the executives of elastagen (around the end of the year). I'll keep you updated and tell you when it's out, and I'll share photos if I can too obviously.
I think there will ALSO be before/after photos for the treatment of acne scars, so that might interest you guys as well.
Anyways, we shall see.
Any updates ?
On 11/19/2020 at 2:11 PM, lehran said:I actually completely agree with you when you mention different types of scars. I, for example, can't see how a simple injection would address hypertrophic scars, which are very raised, and sometimes super severe.
The main focus of elastagen right now is atrophic scars, as the idea is to repair the dermis and replace the voids left by the damage with a tropoelastin-based IMPLANT (the word implant is important here). It's basically the same idea for stretch marks and acne scars: using a synthetic 3D skin (which is what they created, basically) to cover the damage.
They're really not there yet when it comes to more severe kinds of scaring like hypertrophic scars. If you read some of my older comments (thank you for that btw), you'll find one with tons of links about elastagen. I believe there's one (probably an audio file) where Tony Weiss mentions that they still have a long way to go for more severe scars, and I really doubt that JUST a filler is the solution. It's probably going to be a combination of things.
So no, you're not coming off as confrontational or anything, you actually made very good points.
Ah, also, about the 80-90% improvement, I wrote something about that (concerning the kind of improvement one should expect), as people usually have the wrong idea about what that means, did you find that part?
So would the implant fuse in your body through elastoginisis and regrown the missing things like blood vessels, pigment , hair follicles , etc? Or how will it work. I also wonder if the strike would need to be white and old for this to work or if it also works on striae rubra. There isnt much info about this stuff anywhere. I just hope this can clear stretch marks enough to the point where they arent noticeable
Hey guys, does anyone know any ways to fade red stretch marks? Also any of you guys know whats up with elastagen and if there are gonna be any updates regarding it and how it will be for stretch marks? Thanks in advance
Is anyone willing to buy verteporfin and try it on themselves? I kinda want to but am a afraid it will go very wrong.
https://www.bristol.ac.uk/news/2020/november/scar-free-healing-.html
This was published in November 2020 and they're saying they want to achieve this within a generation.
On 9/23/2021 at 7:55 AM, Guest said:'The Scaar Fx was mentioned in reference to the burn victims, there are many successful stories of burn victims online. The Scaar Fx is not suitable for acne scars.
We will live and see what will happen to Verteporfin andthe other scarless healing treatments in a few years. Hopefully they don't fail miserably as Elastagen and all the previous high hopes.
What do you mean elastagen failed? Arent they releasing their studies this year with pictures of before/after?
18 hours ago, Diamond9199 said:the last article was published almost a year ago. I think there will be news again at the end of the year
Man elastagen has been saying they have breakthrough treatment which is tropelastin for a bunch of problems since 2018.. why they takin so long? You would think they would like to get the product out and start making that $$$. Oh well, hopefully it comes out soon and we can all benefit from their product. And I understand they need to pass clinical safety and efficacy and all the other stuff, but I would imagine their would be some updates at least
7 hours ago, Baller223 said:Man elastagen has been saying they have breakthrough treatment which is tropelastin for a bunch of problems since 2018.. why they takin so long? You would think they would like to get the product out and start making that $$$. Oh well, hopefully it comes out soon and we can all benefit from their product. And I understand they need to pass clinical safety and efficacy and all the other stuff, but I would imagine their would be some updates at least
The process will likely take several more years, if not longer. We may get some updates in that time, but this isn't a subject much news is posted on. Many of the updates here are from forum members reaching out
I dont think fda will not approve microcoing for scars. To remove, let's say, a stretch mark, they will have to remove the whole area of skin. If they did that,skin appendages will be removed as well and since 100% skin regenration is not happening anytime soon, microcoring and removing the whole scar seems too risky. I think fda may approve it for loose skin of other areas like neck etc.
If only we had something that could heal the skin and regenerate skin appendages, then maybe piece by piece removal of skin and healthy skin withsweat glands and hair follicles taking its place seems approvable. (Please god,give verteporfin strength to regenrate human skin just like it did with mice :'(
But these are just speculation, that too severely underinformed.
Meanwhile, I'm working on my personality,health and skills cuz I'm so done with desperately trying to find a cure. The best cure In the world can't correct my stretch marks. I have them all over my body. I literally need a complete skin transplant lol. The only thing that makes me sad is that I can't wear my favourite kind of clothing (saari, traditional Indian dress) without worring about my stretch marks.
I'm seriously considering never having kids. Jk lol
This platform gives me hope. Knowingthat men are just as insecure about stuff as I am, is so reassuring.
3 hours ago, Violet_daisy said:I dont think fda will not approve microcoing for scars. To remove, let's say, a stretch mark, they will have to remove the whole area of skin. If they did that,skin appendages will be removed as well and since 100% skin regenration is not happening anytime soon, microcoring and removing the whole scar seems too risky. I think fda may approve it for loose skin of other areas like neck etc.
If only we had something that could heal the skin and regenerate skin appendages, then maybe piece by piece removal of skin and healthy skin withsweat glands and hair follicles taking its place seems approvable. (Please god,give verteporfin strength to regenrate human skin just like it did with mice :'(
But these are just speculation, that too severely underinformed.
Meanwhile, I'm working on my personality,health and skills cuz I'm so done with desperately trying to find a cure. The best cure In the world can't correct my stretch marks. I have them all over my body. I literally need a complete skin transplant lol. The only thing that makes me sad is that I can't wear my favourite kind of clothing (saari, traditional Indian dress) without worring about my stretch marks.
I'm seriously considering never having kids. Jk lol
This platform gives me hope. Knowingthat men are just as insecure about stuff as I am, is so reassuring.
Microcoring hasbeen approved and whilst its only for loose skin atm I have no doubt somewhere some Practitioner/clinic will use it for scars but probably smaller scars to begin with.
Only a few key practitioners are approved to use it atm. 2022 it will go full commercial roll out.
If you have smaller scars and not so spread I think you will potentially benefit more from Microcoring. There are question marks around how much skin can safely be removed especially in younger patients.
We shall see, but unlikely for the remainder of 2021
1 hour ago, Skin Pessimist said:Unfortunately not, and I still think it's incredibly disappointing that he removed all of those pinned guides
What was pinned? Practitioners for Microcoring?
4 hours ago, Sniffy said:Microcoring hasbeen approved and whilst its only for loose skin atm I have no doubt somewhere some Practitioner/clinic will use it for scars but probably smaller scars to begin with.
Microcoring is approved only for lower face as of now. Hopefully they'll get approval for other areas too.
I may be completely wrong but microcoring a large amount of skin without regenration of atleast some part of it sounds so unnatural. Skin is supposed to function properly only with all its appendages intact.I've studied physiology for 2 semesters and I'm no expert but I dont think that we can remove the whole scar without irreversibly damaging and over tightening surrounding skin. I'm hoping that verteporfin works. Because if it does (even with 80% efficiency), then scar removal is possible innear future.
I was going through a thread on lib redd.it and someone commented that they know surgeons in New York who were able to recover 99% of hair follicles for fue hair transplant. If that's true and verteporfin actually works, then I'm very hopeful about future of scar management. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for verteporfin because guys, skin regeneration is not something we can skip if we want >90% improvement andclose to natural skin feel.
people were saying 2022-2023 is when we can expect it and I saw some people in this forum say they are releasing before/after pics at the end of this year. So I think we can expect it around then, at least the injectable for stretch marks/acne scars
On 10/9/2021 at 1:08 AM, Skin Pessimist said:The process will likely take several more years, if not longer. We may get some updates in that time, but this isn't a subject much news is posted on. Many of the updates here are from forum members reaching out
peoplewere saying 2022-2023 is when we can expectit and I saw some people in this forum say they are releasing before/after pics at the end of this year. So I think we can expect it around then, at least the injectable for stretch marks/acne scars
On 3/31/2020 at 4:36 AM, lehran said:I can link you literally all the interesting sources I got about elastagen if you want. I got them all bookmarked, there must be 20 of them or so. There are much more out there obviously but those seemed good to me at the very least.
@ermete55 It's probably going to be better than that, but it's gonna take longer to come out than the product they have for stretch marks and acne scars (AND, like others mentioned, they're still going to need on box scars and ice pick scars)
This is from 2017, before they were bought by Allergan/Abbvie
"The companys first target was the medical-aesthetics market. Daniels thought that, with enough funding, it could develop more than one formulation in a reasonable time frame. The company now has products that target three main indications. The most advanced is an injectable gel that makes stretch marks and acne scars fade away. Another is for surgi-cal scars and will be co-developed with a global medical-devices company that has established marketing and sales channels in numerous countries. The third application is in wound repair"
Can you link me some of the bookmarks and sources you have regarding elastagen? It would be greatly appreciated
9 hours ago, Diamond9199 said:
Verteporfin is being tested for other types of stuff other than scarring due to it being a YAP inhibitor. Interesting stuff for sure. Also,I saw an article where it stated thatVerteporfin market is predictedto have an overwhelming hike in revenues between 2021 and 2027. Only time will tell how effective it will be. It seems like the pig trials are taking forever lmao