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Hi everyone, I've been a lurker for years and thanks to this thread, I became aware of SkinTe. Thank you so much for all of the useful information through out the years. I just wanted to share that I reached out to SKinTe asking if I could be a part of their clinical trials. They actually responded to me and said the following:
"Teams at PolarityTE are also actively exploring other indications and additional uses for SkinTE which will be shared with patients, providers and the public once completed.
Whether an individual patient™s particular condition may be appropriate for treatment with SkinTE is a medical decision to be determined in consultation with a licensed and trained medical provider.
As your question relates to chronic scar revision, this is within the scope of SkinTE™s current indications. While our pre-clinical studies did show a significant reduction in wound contraction and scarring, it is important to realize that even with the SkinTE product it is possible you would still have a scar. Additionally, in order to deploy SkinTE, a licensed medical provider would need to take a skin harvest from another area of your body in addition to excising your old scar.
To pursue treatment with SkinTE, please see your medical provider who can contact PolarityTE to obtain approval to use SkinTE at your provider™s desired health facility or refer you to a medical provider or facility already approved for SkinTE treatment in your specific case. Please note that SkinTE is currently only being used in the United States.
For additional information about SkinTE, including important safety information, please visit:
www.polarityte.com/products/skinte
Thank you for your inquiry"
I have responded to him by asking which doctors are currently approved by PolatityTE and I am awaiting his response. I'm really hoping he tells me but I'm not sure if he will. The other option is to approach doctors and ask them if they would consider going through the process to be approved so that they could provide that treatment to patients. The only doctor that comes to mind for me is Dr. Travis Shaw. I know he is currently using Acell with scar revisions so he seems to be open to new technologies etc. I will let you all know once PolarityTE gets back to me. In the mean time, does anyone happen to know where I could find a list of doctors or even one doctor who currently uses PolarityTE? I read somewhere that around 17 burn and wound centres across the U.S. are currently using SkinTE but unfortuantely there are around 120 of those centres so it would be quite the task so call each one but I'm strongly considering that at the moment. I believe it's being used at the John Hopkins Burn Centre and they do deal with scar revisions other than those obtained from burns according to their website. I will be calling John Hopkins today to see what they say *fingers crossed*. Good luck to you all. I will keep you posted 
58 minutes ago, sousou_bella said:Hi everyone, I've been a lurker for years and thanks to this thread, I became aware of SkinTe. Thank you so much for all of the useful information through out the years. I just wanted to share that I reached out to SKinTe asking if I could be a part of their clinical trials. They actually responded to me and said the following:
"Teams at PolarityTE are also actively exploring other indications and additional uses for SkinTE which will be shared with patients, providers and the public once completed.
Whether an individual patient™s particular condition may be appropriate for treatment with SkinTE is a medical decision to be determined in consultation with a licensed and trained medical provider.
As your question relates to chronic scar revision, this is within the scope of SkinTE™s current indications. While our pre-clinical studies did show a significant reduction in wound contraction and scarring, it is important to realize that even with the SkinTE product it is possible you would still have a scar. Additionally, in order to deploy SkinTE, a licensed medical provider would need to take a skin harvest from another area of your body in addition to excising your old scar.
To pursue treatment with SkinTE, please see your medical provider who can contact PolarityTE to obtain approval to use SkinTE at your provider™s desired health facility or refer you to a medical provider or facility already approved for SkinTE treatment in your specific case. Please note that SkinTE is currently only being used in the United States.
For additional information about SkinTE, including important safety information, please visit:
www.polarityte.com/products/skinte
Thank you for your inquiry"
I have responded to him by asking which doctors are currently approved by PolatityTE and I am awaiting his response. I'm really hoping he tells me but I'm not sure if he will. The other option is to approach doctors and ask them if they would consider going through the process to be approved so that they could provide that treatment to patients. The only doctor that comes to mind for me is Dr. Travis Shaw. I know he is currently using Acell with scar revisions so he seems to be open to new technologies etc. I will let you all know once PolarityTE gets back to me. In the mean time, does anyone happen to know where I could find a list of doctors or even one doctor who currently uses PolarityTE? I read somewhere that around 17 burn and wound centres across the U.S. are currently using SkinTE but unfortuantely there are around 120 of those centres so it would be quite the task so call each one but I'm strongly considering that at the moment. I believe it's being used at the John Hopkins Burn Centre and they do deal with scar revisions other than those obtained from burns according to their website. I will be calling John Hopkins today to see what they say *fingers crossed*. Good luck to you all. I will keep you posted
Welcome to the thread and great job being proactive!
Their response is pretty much what they've stated repeatedly over the past 6-8 months (i.e. it's up to patient and provider, can't guarantee results etc.) so no red flags there. Just for clarity, do you have a chronic wound or a scar that has a lesion rising out of it?
According to another poster Johns Hopkins does not have SkinTE (might be from the fallout of the founders and Gorlin leaving). I posted a bit ago the list of their clinical advisors and the other poster, Kim6266, was going down the list and had supposedly found a doctor in New York and one in Tennessee using the product.
However, I don't think that's what PolarityTE was saying you should do. I think they said you could just go to your doctor and discuss using it and if you both decided it was worth it then the doc would contact them and set up the product purchase. I don't think you need to go through one of the centers already using it in order to get it”just clear it with your doc (probably a dermatologist) that he or she is willing to use the product.
Really nice job getting a response. With any luck you'll get to use it.
1 hour ago, golfpanther said:Welcome to the thread and great job being proactive!Their response is pretty much what they've stated repeatedly over the past 6-8 months (i.e. it's up to patient and provider, can't guarantee results etc.) so no red flags there. Just for clarity, do you have a chronic wound or a scar that has a lesion rising out of it?
According to another poster Johns Hopkins does not have SkinTE (might be from the fallout of the founders and Gorlin leaving). I posted a bit ago the list of their clinical advisors and the other poster, Kim6266, was going down the list and had supposedly found a doctor in New York and one in Tennessee using the product.
However, I don't think that's what PolarityTE was saying you should do. I think they said you could just go to your doctor and discuss using it and if you both decided it was worth it then the doc would contact them and set up the product purchase. I don't think you need to go through one of the centers already using it in order to get it”just clear it with your doc (probably a dermatologist) that he or she is willing to use the product.
Really nice job getting a response. With any luck you'll get to use it.
Thanks! Yes, I totally get what you mean but unfortunately I live in Canada and generally speaking, it's much harder to find a doctor here that would be willing to go through all of that trouble to be honest. I've been to sooo many doctors here and so many of them are dead set on doing the absolute minimum. They're not really interested in new cutting edge procedures. The first thing they do is direct you to lasers most of the time. Not to mention SkinTe is not approved for use here anyway 
I realize that I'm going to have to travel to the States for this procedure and I'm ok with that but I feel like it would be pretty hard to just find a doctor in the States to do something like that especially if I don't do an in person consultation with any of the doctors first. I feel like it would be kind of hard to convince them over the phone that 1. SkinTE is absolutely needed in my particular case and 2. they should go through all that trouble for one patient. It might work with a really eager doctor who is really passionate about what they do but the question is where do I find a doctor like that?
Thanks for letting me know about John Hopkins. I'm going to call the National Centre for Plastic Surgery and see if they are using SkinTE there.
My scars are actually surgical scars that used to be a trauma scars (I had them excised). They're not too big but they're atrophic. I've tried sooo many different things but have only received minimal improvement. At this point, I'm willing to try complete excision with SkinTE to hopefully generate new skin. It's a big risk but it's worth it for me at this point.
Would you mind telling me the names of the doctor in Tennessee and New York if you have them? Thanks so much for all your help!!
2 hours ago, sousou_bella said:Thanks! Yes, I totally get what you mean but unfortunately I live in Canada and generally speaking, it's much harder to find a doctor here that would be willing to go through all of that trouble to be honest. I've been to sooo many doctors here and so many of them are dead set on doing the absolute minimum. They're not really interested in new cutting edge procedures. The first thing they do is direct you to lasers most of the time. Not to mention SkinTe is not approved for use here anyway
Thanks for letting me know about John Hopkins. I'm going to call the National Centre for Plastic Surgery and see if they are using SkinTE there.
My scars are actually surgical scars that used to be a trauma scars (I had them excised). They're not too big but they're atrophic. I've tried sooo many different things but have only received minimal improvement. At this point, I'm willing to try complete excision with SkinTE to hopefully generate new skin. It's a big risk but it's worth it for me at this point.
Would you mind telling me the names of the doctor in Tennessee and New York if you have them? Thanks so much for all your help!!
Definitely try Johns Hopkins if you want. The other poster called and they said they didn't have it but things could have changed or the person Kim6266 talked to might not have known.
Kim6266 didn't give the names of the docs. I speculated that the New York doctor might be Rachel Bluebond-Langner because she's one of PolarityTE's clinical advisors. She was on the list I put up on this site of their clinical advisors that I think Kim6266 was using to call.
Kim6266 did mention another doctor that was using it in Florida. I believe his name was David J. Smith; he's at the University of South Florida in Tampa.
The other option, based on PolarityTE's response, would be to seek out a well-respected plastic surgeon here in the states and inquiry about whether or not they'd be willing to try the product. Totally get you can't use it in Canada, but Los Angeles comes to mind as a place that might have a good doctor that would be willing to try it.
This is something I would like try for now
http://aestheticchannel.modernmedicine.com/aesthetic-channel/news/future-ha-filler-alternative
24 minutes ago, rudy1986 said:Skinte fails? It produce scar after treatment? Guys? Opinion ?
Where did you get this information?
Remember, over the years there has been several 'miracle cure' and 'cutting edge' technology that has promised the world, but didn't produce worthwhile results. Remember when Fraxel was hyped like skin TE?
I'm a skeptic, I highly doubt they would get 100% improvement. In fact, all this needs to show is that it is just as effective as current treatments to get approval. Doesn't mean, even with positive results, that it will help your scars.
*waiting for the skin TE supporters to come out of the woodwork.
18 minutes ago, ScarRight said:Where did you get this information?Remember, over the years there has been several 'miracle cure' and 'cutting edge' technology that has promised the world, but didn't produce worthwhile results. Remember when Fraxel was hyped like skin TE?
I'm a skeptic, I highly doubt they would get 100% improvement. In fact, all this needs to show is that it is just as effective as current treatments to get approval. Doesn't mean, even with positive results, that it will help your scars.
*waiting for the skin TE supporters to come out of the woodwork.
Rudy1986 is referencing the post on the previous page that had a response from PolarityTE to the poster. In it, PolarityTE wrote that it was "possible" the poster would still have a scar after treatment.
Remember, SkinTE had a scar (the marginless than a width of a hair shaft) between the regenerated skin in the wound bed and the neighboring skin. SkinTE always had this margin and PolarityTE has never claimed they didn't.
Their response could be interpreted a number of different waysa precaution for the poster's expectations or the sky is falling scenario, which would be it doesn't work at all. I think it's PolarityTE merely pointing out that the product always had the margin and that they don't honestly know how well it will work in humans because no results are final as of yet.
Also, they don't have final results, they don't know this prospective patient and his or her medical history outside of one email and even in pigs it left the margin. There are a lot of unknowns even if it has worked beautifully in other patients.
And again, why the hostility towards those of us that support the product? I maintain that we should all support the research and the product. I'm not blindly saying it will workthat's stupid and only the results will show that. But we all want to be free of our scars so I see no reason we shouldn't support research that aims to give us that.
1 hour ago, ScarRight said:Where did you get this information?Remember, over the years there has been several 'miracle cure' and 'cutting edge' technology that has promised the world, but didn't produce worthwhile results. Remember when Fraxel was hyped like skin TE?
I'm a skeptic, I highly doubt they would get 100% improvement. In fact, all this needs to show is that it is just as effective as current treatments to get approval. Doesn't mean, even with positive results, that it will help your scars.
*waiting for the skin TE supporters to come out of the woodwork.
Go back a page and read response from PolarityTe.
"Its still possible that even with SkinTe product it can leave scar". Thats either in reference to the margin or letting her know that it may not be 100% removal or it may not improve on a person at all whether that has actually happened in trials or its just a possibility given so few patients have had this trratment. PolarityTe also said it has shown so far to "significantly" reduce contraction and scarring, so that would mean not complete removal hence the previous line. Thats all.....and again who knows
Maybe its been getting 70%-90% improvement. Maybe some patients have had no improvement at all. Who knows without knowing the specifics of this statement because not even they probably know final healing results. Its "possible" you can get infection, its "possible" your body wont heal well with this product.......etc. Yes this could not work, Im skeptical myself but if you are making that call based on some very broad and sensible statements then paranoia is the only thing that comes to mind here.
Nothing new here. My God either people cant read or they have some real anxiety issues about this. Another doomsday event for you ScarRight? How many has that been now?
1 hour ago, ScarRight said:Just calling it as I see it. I'm happy to live with my scars in a worst case scenario.Remember when Recell was hyped at the best new technology for scars?
It may be a similar method to SkinTe but the platform technology is different. Recell always looked like a faster healing aid for less severe burns to me. Ill admit hype is a worry and they could be talking it up big but SkinTe have at least backed it up with evidence unlike Recell. Clinics promote Recell as something revolutionary for patient reading$$$ still.
I ask myself Why would Denver Lough create a start up with a inferior product that is already available in the market today in Recell. Just to make away with cash from investors? If they went into this without knowing about Recell or other similar products in the market then they must be clueless monkeys. Here's a line from Denver Lough 6 weeks ago.
We are confident and believe that SkinTE will replicate its preclinical success and help patients regenerate their own full-thickness, hair-bearing skin. We did not set out to bring another iteration to the field of regenerative medicinewe set out to change it entirely. Welcome to the Shift.- Denver Lough
'Iteration' meaning- replicate, repeat, the process of doing something again and again, usually to improve it.
SkinTe just needs to show it can regenerate full thickness healthy new skin even if its unable to get complete regeneration coverage it would be a breakthrough. Im on my toes as much as anyone, unsure but hopeful. Im not trying to convince anyone this is the holy Grail. Im following this from a distance and basing my views on what I see. I just dont understand why people feel its doomed because the word "possible" was used in a fairly standard response. If i was responding for PolarityTe I would have written something similar. They are keeping it in check for someone reaching out to them seeking help as they should. "No guarantees" is probably the most used phrase for medical professionals. We live in a world of ass covering these days.
I'd be more concerned if PolarityTe were using words like "revolutionary", "cure", "perfect", "scar free" every paragraph tbh. But seems people on here only want to hear these words. PolarityTe are either keeping a lid on things with their wording till they know more or maybe less optimistic now compared to 6 months ago, I dunno. Or we are all freaking out on this forum and the sky is falling.
2 hours ago, ScarRight said:Just calling it as I see it. I'm happy to live with my scars in a worst case scenario.Remember when Recell was hyped at the best new technology for scars?
I totally get that you want to be cautious to protect yourself and emotions in case this doesn't work. I do the same, which is why I'm waiting for results. It's also why, when I noticed some articles that alarmed me, I reached out to them directly. You could do the same as others have done, like the poster on the previous page. Maybe you have already.
But you make false equivalences and try to pass that off as fact. For one, Recell and SkinTE do not have the same burden. Recell set out to improve outcomes for 2nd degree burns and scar revisions. And you know what? So far that technology, now used by RenovaCare, is doing jus that (i.e. the use on the police officer seen on their site's video). So... using your logic, PolarityTE must not be lying because Recell has shown efficacy for what they set out to do.
Recell, nor RenovaCare, never claimed complete regeneration of 3rd degree burns or tissue deficits resulting in the loss of all layers of skin. PolarityTE does claim this in preclinical trials and as their aim in humans. But like I said, Recell and RenovaCare haven't failed; they just aimed to deliver something (that would inferior if SkinTE works) different than PolarityTE's product.
So I don't really understand what you're calling as you see it? There's nothing to see because no results have been released.
Wow after reading that new facebook post I'm an even BIGGER pessimist about this company. By 2020!!!??? What a scam. That's exactly the time frame they're trying to get venture capitalist money in. Buys them more time.
Guys, note the wording, "We believe...blah blah...it will supplant standard of care...." You know what standard of care is??? Like shitty lasers that do nothing. And also why "We believe"? Why not "As demonstrated in our human trials SkinTE has shown to improve wound/burn/scar healing over standard of care." They can't say that cause like I said before THEY HAVEN"T DONE ANY HUMAN TRIALS!!!!!!!!
The price of this stock is about to TANK. Guys i"m not insane or need help or mad at biotech companies. I just know a lot about science and how these companies work and how they try to drum up funding. I have a friend who tries to peddle thousands of stocks of companies just like shit that are worth pennies a share.
I knew this company was bogus when I read the way they described their technology. Withough precision, emphasizing the entrepreneurial part. This shit should sell itself if it was real. It would revolutionize the world. They're just saying it will supplant the standard of care. The standard of care for acne scars is 0-10 percent improvement MAYBE with lasers if that. And they don't even mention any papers or published results on humans. And they're just trying to put off the launch date to 2020 so they can get VC money now and then promise some other crap in the future. This was a VIDEO GAME COMPANY guys, this is a BUSINESS, its not grounded on a fundamental breakthrough that is already out there. Just look at EPIBONE! Seriously, check it out, look at the TED talks from several years ago where the CEO also a doctor, with a PhD etc. left her job to launch a start-up that has all sorts of descriptions and papers and blah blah as if they have a technology. When I've asked the company on numerous occasions when they will release it. Guess what, they keep making false promises for years. Check it out, its way more impressive than SkinTE : http://www.epibone.com/
Sorry guys the revolution in BIOTECH is just not even close right now cause they can't reproduce cells fast enough to actually create structures for human transplanation or regeneration and they don't have the knowledge of how to produce even simple organs all that stuff you hear about livers and stuff at Wakeforest that's just a couple of cells in a petri dish IN VITRO for the use of drug companies to test on. They're 50-100 years away from actually creating a liver, or skin, or teeth, or eyes or anything like that. For complex stuff 100 years or more. For skin, maybe by 2030-40. So seriously, get on with your lives. Stop checking these threads. Be happy with who you are. Get whatever help you can with fillers and good dermasanding or whatever. Sorry guys. I just want to be the voice of reason here.
I knew someone was going to mention '2020' without properly reading... in the usual paranoid and hysterical fashion. Read the sentence.
This is what it says:
QuoteHowever, we expect to make SkinTE commercially available to address the broader wound market, which is expected to exceed 250 million wounds worldwide by 2020. Along with the treatment of acute and chronic wounds, we intend to market SkinTE for other surgical reconstruction events, including cosmetic and elective surgeries, and for scar revision or the removal of dysfunctional events.
If you have a functioning knowledge of grammar, the 'which' part of the bolded phrase refers to the term immediately before it, 'the broader wound market.' The phrase means that 'the broader wound market' is expected to exceed 250 million wounds worldwide by 2020. And they expect to make SkinTE commercially available to address a broader market than justthird degree burns to meetdemand that they expect will become very large by 2020.
There is nothing in that sentence about waiting to release the product by 2020. SkinTEis available right now. The '2020' part refers to the potential size of the market that they anticipate to address by 2020, and they mentioned this to show how much demand is there for their product, which (the product)is available right now.
If you want to be the voice of reason, you need to know how to read properly. Many other users here are reading this thread to see what's going on with new technologies, while you are rambling because of a grammatical misunderstanding. Not everyone here gets as emotional as you about this. Not everyone gets their days ruined by some twitter post by a company. But you do. Your own unsolicited lifeadvices seem to apply very well to you, but not as much on others.So why don't you take your own advice and stop checking these boards yourself?
I just want to read this thread to get updated on what's going on. Not read about people having nervous breakdowns.
2 hours ago, Rez77 said:Wow after reading that new facebook post I'm an even BIGGER pessimist about this company. By 2020!!!??? What a scam. That's exactly the time frame they're trying to get venture capitalist money in. Buys them more time.
Guys, note the wording, "We believe...blah blah...it will supplant standard of care...." You know what standard of care is??? Like shitty lasers that do nothing. And also why "We believe"? Why not "As demonstrated in our human trials SkinTE has shown to improve wound/burn/scar healing over standard of care." They can't say that cause like I said before THEY HAVEN"T DONE ANY HUMAN TRIALS!!!!!!!!
The price of this stock is about to TANK. Guys i"m not insane or need help or mad at biotech companies. I just know a lot about science and how these companies work and how they try to drum up funding. I have a friend who tries to peddle thousands of stocks of companies just like shit that are worth pennies a share.
I knew this company was bogus when I read the way they described their technology. Withough precision, emphasizing the entrepreneurial part. This shit should sell itself if it was real. It would revolutionize the world. They're just saying it will supplant the standard of care. The standard of care for acne scars is 0-10 percent improvement MAYBE with lasers if that. And they don't even mention any papers or published results on humans. And they're just trying to put off the launch date to 2020 so they can get VC money now and then promise some other crap in the future. This was a VIDEO GAME COMPANY guys, this is a BUSINESS, its not grounded on a fundamental breakthrough that is already out there. Just look at EPIBONE! Seriously, check it out, look at the TED talks from several years ago where the CEO also a doctor, with a PhD etc. left her job to launch a start-up that has all sorts of descriptions and papers and blah blah as if they have a technology. When I've asked the company on numerous occasions when they will release it. Guess what, they keep making false promises for years. Check it out, its way more impressive than SkinTE : http://www.epibone.com/
Sorry guys the revolution in BIOTECH is just not even close right now cause they can't reproduce cells fast enough to actually create structures for human transplanation or regeneration and they don't have the knowledge of how to produce even simple organs all that stuff you hear about livers and stuff at Wakeforest that's just a couple of cells in a petri dish IN VITRO for the use of drug companies to test on. They're 50-100 years away from actually creating a liver, or skin, or teeth, or eyes or anything like that. For complex stuff 100 years or more. For skin, maybe by 2030-40. So seriously, get on with your lives. Stop checking these threads. Be happy with who you are. Get whatever help you can with fillers and good dermasanding or whatever. Sorry guys. I just want to be the voice of reason here.
Quote of the year so far goes to Rez77-
"I just know alot about science"...hahahahaha
And Snozberries taste like Snozberries.
I know alot of people will be annoyed by his post (emotional rant) and that Im responding to it but its important to remind Him and everyone else how dumb he actually is.
I love how Rez77 can see into the future like 100 years away. How does he know! I have so many questions for our science guru now. Like When do you think the Aliens will land here Rez77?
Ok so 2020 launch date he says! Clearly cant read very well for a science guru because it says "the wound care market will exceed 250 million wounds worldwide by 2020". But to him this translates to PolarityTe are holding out to 2020 and stealing more money. Hmmm. Another example of him seeing only what he wants to see.
Supplant standard of care is referring to "skin grafts" for burns and other large wounds silly duffer, not lasers for acne scars. Burns and other large wounds is what its currently being trialled for humans so what made you think the standard of care was lasers for such wounds? Is it because of your fixation with acne scars and how your life is ruined? I think Yes is the answer.
And all the CAPITAL LETTERS and !!!!!!!?????? Whats the deal???? Are you angry????. You dont come across as an intelligent science person when your so damn emotional all the time. Ill keep coming back here just as you will so dont worry Rezzy aka "The voice of reason"
On 11/5/2017 at 11:42 AM, Rez77 said:Thank you Tano. That was very kind of you. I want to cry as well (tears of relief that this suffering might one day be over).
I have some sort of hope again for my future. To just think it might one day happen I have so much hope.
I've been an ass to many of you lately because I was so afraid of this failing. But it sounds like a miracle. A miracle I can believe in.
This is only 3 months ago from Rez77. Im so confused
Im fairly new to this thread but looking at this dudes posting history kinda explains it all. He is obviously an emotional wreck for one because of his acne scars despite him just saying today that he is fine and we should let this PolarityTe thing go when he clearly cant move on. He has gone from "it sounds like a miracle, a miracle I can believe in" to absolute hate and resentment towards PolarityTe in a short period. Bipolar perhaps? Or he invested to much hope, way to much and he wants miracle evidence now because hes paranoid and inpatient.
And "I was so afraid of this failing" WTF....is this the same person! He really did convince himself this was the cure and his days of suffering were going to be over soon. Not a smart guy if you ask me. He let his guard down here.
He also contradicts himself in various posts. I was initially thinking maybe this dude is the owner of a med spa clinic or something and hes worried about SkinTe. No hes just having a complete meltdown online. I just hope SkinTe works for the sake of his mental state.
Rez77, I know you think you're doing us a favor by coming to the board and letting us know your opinion on things... but you're not.
As Sniffy points out, your post from a mere 3 months ago showed that you had hope in SkinTE. This was from an interview conducted and posted on this thread that was extremely informative.
However, I don't understand what happened in the interim. 3 months later and it's on patients (something you refuse to believe for some reason) and PolarityTE has said the results are correlative to what they observed in preclinical studiesthe very same preclinical studies that gave you hope by your own admission.
Again, I don't think anyone should believe SkinTE works 100%, or any amount in-between over skin grafts, until we see photos of human patients. I personally have doubts (as I'm sure many of us do) that it will get complete regeneration right off the bat. That mostly stems from a conversation I had with Dr. Sun about Sunogel though, so it shouldn't apply to SkinTE anyway.
I must include that your logic doesn't make any sense. Even if you hadn't misinterpreted the sentence about 2020, PolarityTE would never make it as a company until then if they were just ripping off investors. Regardless as to whether or not you think it's a legit company or a farce, they burdened themselves with presenting actual results in the first half of this yeara year we're only a freaking month into.
If they fail to do that, every single investor will bail on them. It's simpleyou can't promise something by a certain date and then just not do it without facing repercussions.
Look Rez77, I get it. My scars bother me greatly too. I don't want to put my faith in something and have my hopes dashed, same as anyone else. But at most you have the remainder of the first half of this year to wait until you have your answerthat SkinTE either works on the first batch of patients or it doesn't.
If it does, based on your previous post you'll be overjoyed. If it doesn't, I suspect you'll rub it in our faces for some reason. That's the part I don't understand. We're all here for the same reasonto discover and inform each other about new tech that might be a solution to scarring. I don't mind a difference of opinion or how someone interprets data, but I don't get the adversarial stance of some on this board. I really wish that would stop.
I try to be compassionate toward you because I can relate and sense you are deeply affected by your scarring. But I think you need to realize that there are many people on this board in the same boat and when you come here and rant and rave about your opinions you are potentially harming people just like you. I don't think that's what you want to do. I believe you just like to use this place to vent your frustrations, but as others have pointed outthere are other boards on this site that you can do that on.
This thread should be closed. What are the moderators thinking?!
4 minutes ago, Rez77 said:No I think it will eventually be a great art project if we're still alive in 2050 and there's still no biological regeneration of acne scars.
Why don't you go out there and do something amazing with your life. Why do your acne scars hold you back? Half of all those Hollywood stars/singers have acne scars. If you don't believe that acne scarring will ever be addressed, than do us all a favor and leave this thread. We don't need a voice of reason. Move on, accept your sad state of skin. You will never be a Instagram model. Not all of us can be anyways.
1 hour ago, Frasier said:This thread should be closed. What are the moderators thinking?!
I just come here to read about new technologies. It would be nice if there was a closed group where certain people are allowed to inform us about medical advancements relating to scarring.
On 2/1/2018 at 4:51 PM, golfpanther said:Definitely try Johns Hopkins if you want. The other poster called and they said they didn't have it but things could have changed or the person Kim6266 talked to might not have known.Kim6266 didn't give the names of the docs. I speculated that the New York doctor might be Rachel Bluebond-Langner because she's one of PolarityTE's clinical advisors. She was on the list I put up on this site of their clinical advisors that I think Kim6266 was using to call.
Kim6266 did mention another doctor that was using it in Florida. I believe his name was David J. Smith; he's at the University of South Florida in Tampa.
The other option, based on PolarityTE's response, would be to seek out a well-respected plastic surgeon here in the states and inquiry about whether or not they'd be willing to try the product. Totally get you can't use it in Canada, but Los Angeles comes to mind as a place that might have a good doctor that would be willing to try it.
Just an update - I reached out to the Dr. in Tennessee. His nurse said that he currently uses TE on patients (mostly patients with burns as they work in a hospital). She told me to email my pictures and give an explanation of what treatments Ive already had. He got back to me last night and said that he feels that it is too early to recommend SkinTE on my scars. I asked him why that was since from what I gathered they already achieved regeneration of all layers of skin in human applications. I will let you all know what he says. Im now going to contact another clinical advisor and just go down the list that way to see if anyone would be willing. If that doesnt work, I will then reach out to Dr. Shaw Im Virginia. Hope this was helpful.
24 minutes ago, sousou_bella said:Just an update - I reached out to the Dr. in Tennessee. His nurse said that he currently uses TE on patients (mostly patients with burns as they work in a hospital). She told me to email my pictures and give an explanation of what treatments Ive already had. He got back to me last night and said that he feels that it is too early to recommend SkinTE on my scars. I asked him why that was since from what I gathered they already achieved regeneration of all layers of skin in human applications. I will let you all know what he says. Im now going to contact another clinical advisor and just go down the list that way to see if anyone would be willing. If that doesnt work, I will then reach out to Dr. Shaw Im Virginia. Hope this was helpful.
Finally something that at least gives us some real feedback. Unfortunately, doesn't sound positive. As I suspected its a recell type thing where they probably spray or paste or something cultured cells. Guys, don't get angry at me, I was the only one skeptical about the hydrogel being available when all of you were saying it was a proven miracle cure and that one dude kept citing the medical literature and I emphasized that the peer review language is ambiguous at best. It was BS. And I was right. I actually do know a lot about this shit from years of research. In any case, I commend you for doing some real investigative research. Good work. Maybe you'll find something that changes my pessimism.
44 minutes ago, sousou_bella said:Just an update - I reached out to the Dr. in Tennessee. His nurse said that he currently uses TE on patients (mostly patients with burns as they work in a hospital). She told me to email my pictures and give an explanation of what treatments Ive already had. He got back to me last night and said that he feels that it is too early to recommend SkinTE on my scars. I asked him why that was since from what I gathered they already achieved regeneration of all layers of skin in human applications. I will let you all know what he says. Im now going to contact another clinical advisor and just go down the list that way to see if anyone would be willing. If that doesnt work, I will then reach out to Dr. Shaw Im Virginia. Hope this was helpful.
Good stuff!
Yes this is typical response Id expect. Being used for burns in Hospitals in early trials just as PolarityTe said despite "The voice of reason" saying THEY HAVEN'T DONE ANY HUMAN TRIALS!!!!!!!! and the product didnt exist.
"Too early to Reccomend SkinTe" reads exactly as it is. Only being used in Hospitals/trauma centers for burns and probably large wounds.
Sooooooo.........Early stages still for trials and no intended use for acne scars at the moment is all it means.
Not Negative news and not Positive news really. Just more confirmation I suppose of what we were already told by PolarityTe. Id be shocked if he wrote back saying it wont help your acne scars tbh given he uses it for 3rd degree burns and other horrible wounds. And yes I understand the whole but what about full regeneration of all layers query to this Doctor but as he said its "too early to recommend SkinTe" for the two likely reasons explained above. And again here below for Rez (wink wink)
1. Early stages of trials for patients (mostly with burns). No Final results
2. Not intended for cosmetic use and other less severe defects atm.