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Posted : 08/12/2017 7:05 pm

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Posted : 08/12/2017 7:24 pm

26 minutes ago, JohnRottenSkin said:

i understand. but not a single tweet not an instagram photo from participants of trials. nothing. Some people will take part in trials. where are they? or it will be a single secret person like that swine :)?

I wonder how the people were able to participate. because I do not find how toparticipate on their site. I think that it is just necessary to wait a few months.

Will have us the results maybe this month this or maximum in November

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(@anish004)

Posted : 08/12/2017 9:20 pm

can anybody please tell me what happened to Acell ?

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Posted : 08/12/2017 9:53 pm

I've already said this several times, but I'll only say it only once more. The images of their pipeline for trials are not to be confused. The timeline frame for human trials is NOT the time frame for results to be published. It is the time frame in which they will "INITIATE" human trials as stated by PolarityTE on their own site on June 8th, 2017

They plan to INITIATE human trials in Q3 (3rd quarter) of 2017 which lies anywhere from July to September.

http://www.polarityte.com/news-media/press-releases/detail/406/polaritytetm-regenerates-full-thickness-hair-bearing-skin

I also read that they stated it takes upwards of 3 months for their full regeneration method. So keep in mind that we are in August which means either they just started sometime last month or this month, or have yet to start since September counts as Q3 as well. If it takes 3 months for healing to be complete, assuming they started in September, then they would publish results sometime in November or December at the latest. If they have already started, then expect them earlier.

The trials are taking place in some burn centers nationwide. Have to be patient and wait. They'll show the results when the trials are finished.

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Posted : 08/12/2017 10:10 pm

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Posted : 08/12/2017 10:31 pm

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(@anish004)

Posted : 08/12/2017 10:40 pm

nobody answers me ..

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Posted : 08/13/2017 12:47 am

what about sunogel?

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Posted : 08/13/2017 2:07 am

4 hours ago, Tano1 said:

I've already said this several times, but I'll only say it only once more. The images of their pipeline for trials are not to be confused. The timeline frame for human trials is NOT the time frame for results to be published. It is the time frame in which they will "INITIATE" human trials as stated by PolarityTE on their own site on June 8th, 2017

They plan to INITIATE human trials in Q3 (3rd quarter) of 2017 which lies anywhere from July to September.

http://www.polarityte.com/news-media/press-releases/detail/406/polaritytetm-regenerates-full-thickness-hair-bearing-skin

I also read that they stated it takes upwards of 3 months for their full regeneration method. So keep in mind that we are in August which means either they just started sometime last month or this month, or have yet to start since September counts as Q3 as well. If it takes 3 months for healing to be complete, assuming they started in September, then they would publish results sometime in November or December at the latest. If they have already started, then expect them earlier.

The trials are taking place in some burn centers nationwide. Have to be patient and wait. They'll show the results when the trials are finished.

Skinte: ifthey beginshuman trials in July = results publish in October
ifthey beginshuman trials in August = results publish in November
if he beginshuman trials in September = results publish in December

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Posted : 08/13/2017 2:44 am

what about hydrogel? why we abandon what we discuss for 2 years now about hydrogel and you guys just forget.

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Posted : 08/13/2017 3:21 am

25 minutes ago, Rez77 said:

what about hydrogel? why we abandon what we discuss for 2 years now about hydrogel and you guys just forget.

If you're not going to contribute to the thread, stop wasting other people's time by taking up space in this thread. And don't give us that "I'm being skeptical" argument. Everyone here can decide for themselves whether they want to be hopeful or skeptical, and don't need you to tell them to think one way or the other. If you're truly skeptical, then be skeptical and shut up about it. Nobody cares or needs to know how skeptical you are. Get your shit together.

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Posted : 08/13/2017 4:26 am

1 hour ago, RickeyDog1989 said:
1 hour ago, Rez77 said:

what about hydrogel? why we abandon what we discuss for 2 years now about hydrogel and you guys just forget.

If you're not going to contribute to the thread, stop wasting other people's time by taking up space in this thread. And don't give us that "I'm being skeptical" argument. Everyone here can decide for themselves whether they want to be hopeful or skeptical, and don't need you to tell them to think one way or the other. If you're truly skeptical, then be skeptical and shut up about it. Nobody cares or needs to know how skeptical you are. Get your shit together.

Very true. You have been stating that regeneration wont happen so cant understand why you are here anyway.

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Posted : 08/13/2017 4:49 am

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Posted : 08/13/2017 4:59 am

16 hours ago, JohnRottenSkin said:
17 hours ago, 34erer34 said:
This isn't true at all. The army has DOD funded regenerative medicine studies, which includes tissue and skin regeneration. Avita participated as well many universities and various companies. Like I said, SkinTe looks promising, Johns Hopkins doctors, decent funding etc... BUT the time table given by companies like this are often purposefully optimistic. I hope they can move to human trials soon, but let's just wait and see before being to pessimistic or optimistic. All we can do is follow any news on them. I'm sorry, not sure what you're trying to say. I can't find your old quote, but literally none of that was said about recell, or any other skin product. Recell was first and foremost developed by a burn centre and plastic doctor for PARTIAL thickness burn wounds. Some plastic surgeons have used it to aid in healing time for facial resurfacing surgeries and to repigment scars with varying degrees of success. FIona Wood has never claimed it would regenerate full thickness skin in full thickness burns or claimed that it an get rid of pre existing scars. The reason why tissue engineered skin substitutes are of interest to many burns doctors is because in cases where the body is burned over 20-30 percent they often run out of skin to graft, and they need something to close off the wound from infection. SkinTe is much different because they are claiming success in FULL thickness 3rd degree burn wounds. They are claiming that their model would regenerate not only skin but its appendages. This is something that all burns doctos have wanted and have acknowledged as being a problematic part of their job. If SkinTe can regenerate all appendages in scars they should be able to do the same in a scar granted there is enough skin to biopsy and proliferate. My only issues is the overly optimistic time window they've given. I in part appreciate that they want to move as fast as possible though. All we can do is wait, but the experiment regenerating skin in pigs is huge enough to be very optimistic. Hopefully, it works on humans.

I mean... is polarity the first ever who regenerates 3d degre burns? no one did it before? maybe somene did, but failed in human trials? I wanna clearify it to myself. Why Rez are so sceptical? Maybe because 3d degree burns was succesfully treated before and we see this promises once again?

Well so far most of the regeneration has been shown in rats. Since rats have a loser collagen and bit different skin compared to humans it often fails in humans. Pig skin is very similar and bit more complex so if it works there the chances are very big that it works in humans! Why I am optimist about polarity is because of recent research. For example it was considered that if you lose hair follicle it cannot be regrown, Follica is working currently on hair loss and follicle regeneration. Also couple of years ago an idea of micro grafting complete skin from donor site to the wound. The idea was that a micro incision will be done and those micro grafts will put into the wound since the micro injuries regenerate itself the gab it will regenerate skin in donor and wound. They tried it on swines and it did work, however it was difficult to keep the implant at the correct measurement. However what they learned by the experiment was that if enough corrects cells are available at the woundsite the body will believe that it's a Micro injury and Regenerate correctly. They further understood that it had to do with the communication of cells. If the injury is micro small, the cells can communicate and the injury will heal (this idea is used by lasers and microneedling) but if the wound is large, the cells at the edges are not able to communicate and a scar will form. Now polarity is providing those missing cells and it allows the cells to communicate thus will make the body believe that it's a small injury / gap is not large and the communication will allow regeneration since all cells are there all layers can be formed and this allso explains why it will propagate into old scar tissue and regenerate healthy skin.

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Posted : 08/13/2017 6:54 am

can anyone tell me are acid attack and third degree burn same type ??? i feel so sad for acid attack victims

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Posted : 08/13/2017 7:38 am

Yeeesss, all type of skin injury and loss of tissue can be treated.

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Posted : 08/13/2017 8:19 am

40 minutes ago, SunnyX said:

Yeeesss, all type of skin injury and loss of tissue can be treated.

the worst injury to skin is by acid attack i read a story of a girl today and i felt very sad

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Posted : 08/13/2017 8:29 am

@Rez77@RickeyDog1989@JohnRottenSkin@slave of jesusI agree with rez77 - we shouldn't assume anything for it or against it, since we do not know yet if it works or not. And it past a lot of company have claimed to have cracked the code, but so far none of them worked. We will see results in the next few coming Months and if it has worked they will surely provide more information and doctor will come up soon after rollout with more application. Based on current research by other groups and based on their past experiments with pigs, they methods looks so far the most promising, however we need to wait and see if it works in humans although pig skin is more thicker and more difficult in most cases then human skin therefore the chances are high that it will work on humans but again it could be possible it fails due to unknown factors. We should stick to providing information that we can find and share them.

@Anish004so far hydrogel, epicell, fs2, sunogel, renovo, skingun and more, none of them can regenerate complete skin, most of them can increase speed of healing or only provide the top layer of skin. So far only dr. Cotsarelis has shown to be able to regenerate hair follicle (www. Follicabio. Com) and scarless healing through regeneration of hair and fat. But it's still in development. And Skinte has shown that in pig models, they have to yet prove it in human model.

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Posted : 08/13/2017 9:55 am

whats this
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Posted : 08/13/2017 11:07 am

1 hour ago, Anish004 said:

nothing that will help you

8 hours ago, Rez77 said:

what about hydrogel? why we abandon what we discuss for 2 years now about hydrogel and you guys just forget.

hydrogel is more or less just a scaffold, that study just happened to see benefits in wound healing

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Posted : 08/13/2017 11:33 am

anything currently available that help in acne or pox scar texture ?? that make it look like normal skin

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Posted : 08/13/2017 3:44 pm

4 hours ago, Anish004 said:

anything currently available that help in acne or pox scar texture ?? that make it look like normal skin

You can ask that thousand times and the answer is no! Sry bro. Maybe soon or later. But lasers can help a little but nothing can completely remove them with current technology.

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Posted : 08/13/2017 7:34 pm

12 hours ago, Anish004 said:

can anyone tell me are acid attack and third degree burn same type ??? i feel so sad for acid attack victims

Me too. I really hope something likr SkinTe will hope those victims.

About Rez; I dont mind that people are skeptical, but to be annoying and negative is something else.

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Posted : 08/13/2017 8:46 pm

skin graft or fat graft for two or three pox scars ? what this result

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Posted : 08/13/2017 9:34 pm

47 minutes ago, Anish004 said:

skin graft or fat graft for two or three pox scars ? what this result

skin graft??? no... neither tbh
every trtmt carries risks

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