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(@Anonymous)

Posted : 07/23/2017 1:14 am

On 7/20/2017 at 3:04 AM, damnBOY said:
nope :(

Maybe try again? If you don't mind can you tell him about this message board and that there are people that are willing to partake in the first human studies of the hydrogel

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(@sunnyx)

Posted : 07/23/2017 3:09 am

On 21.7.2017 at 0:05 AM, Isolated said:
What about those of us who are in our late teens to early 20's with severe premature aging, including but not limited to: fully developed nasolabial folds, wrinkles, thinning of the skin and fat loss under the eyes.

I have acne scars but they concern me less than the premature aging I am being afflicted with. Do you think SkinTE will be an appropriate approach for me and others with the combination of issues like premature aging, fat loss and scarring?

I used retin-a to try and improve my scars and it ended up making things 100x worse in the aging department, so I am desperate for a cure. Until then I am sitting at home isolated all day until something comes to fruition.

Don't know how they could apply SkinTE to scars/stretchmarks / hairloss without removing the complete skin? I mean if you have hairloss it makes no sense to remove the entire sculp to get new hair! Same goes for scars in face, it would be to extreme to remove the entire skin! I got a tons of stretchmarks on my arms and chest. I don't think it makes sense to remove the entire skin on my biceps 20sqcm of skin each site. It would be great if they could develop a microneedling + SkinTE application so that only the scarred tissue can be regenerated!

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(@damnboy)

Posted : 07/23/2017 5:16 am

4 hours ago, CollegeKidd said:
On Ž20Ž/Ž7Ž/Ž2017 at 10:04 AM, damnBOY said:
nope :(

Maybe try again? If you don't mind can you tell him about this message board and that there are people that are willing to partake in the first human studies of the hydrogel

ok

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Posted : 07/23/2017 2:29 pm

Thank you damnBOY :)

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(@ai3forever)

Posted : 07/24/2017 3:47 am

On 7/23/2017 at 4:09 PM, SunnyX said:
On 7/21/2017 at 6:05 AM, Isolated said:
What about those of us who are in our late teens to early 20's with severe premature aging, including but not limited to: fully developed nasolabial folds, wrinkles, thinning of the skin and fat loss under the eyes.

I have acne scars but they concern me less than the premature aging I am being afflicted with. Do you think SkinTE will be an appropriate approach for me and others with the combination of issues like premature aging, fat loss and scarring?

I used retin-a to try and improve my scars and it ended up making things 100x worse in the aging department, so I am desperate for a cure. Until then I am sitting at home isolated all day until something comes to fruition.

Don't know how they could apply SkinTE to scars/stretchmarks / hairloss without removing the complete skin? I mean if you have hairloss it makes no sense to remove the entire sculp to get new hair! Same goes for scars in face, it would be to extreme to remove the entire skin! I got a tons of stretchmarks on my arms and chest. I don't think it makes sense to remove the entire skin on my biceps 20sqcm of skin each site. It would be great if they could develop a microneedling + SkinTE application so that only the scarred tissue can be regenerated!

But to remove the scars completely, I think you would have to remove the skin? If its proven to work I really do not mind going such a procedure. I do not think just miconeedling would work (For scarless healing) because the scar tissue would always be there. A broken vase, no matter how you glue it back would still have cracks. The best solution is to buy a new vase.

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(@sunnyx)

Posted : 07/24/2017 9:26 am

5 hours ago, AI3forever said:
But to remove the scars completely, I think you would have to remove the skin? If its proven to work I really do not mind going such a procedure. I do not think just miconeedling would work (For scarless healing) because the scar tissue would always be there. A broken vase, no matter how you glue it back would still have cracks. The best solution is to buy a new vase.

True but if you see microneedling would create multiple channels in which SkinTE could regenerate new skin and at another round of microneedling + SkinTE you would get more of the new skin and according to SkinTE their product does not only regenerate skin at the wounded area but also propagates around the new skin and turns scars into new skin. So if it could be applied like this is would be a win win situation, it would be non invasive and a lot more people could be treated. My stretchmarks are on my body so I wouldn't mind if they cut them out and I get new skin, but I would still prefer less aggressive forms. Plus how would they grow hair on the culp, I think removing the skin from someone's head is a bit extreme so I think they must have a way of doing it in a more non invasive way. Furthermore a noninvasive way would be beneficial for acne scars, since it's to extreme to cut out large areas of your face. I have written tons of emails to all of them, but after their initial reply to call me back no more reply has been received. If they could be more communicative it would certainly provide a lot of peace of mind about future Application. Maybe you guys can also write to them maybe they will answer to one of us

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(@damnboy)

Posted : 07/24/2017 12:12 pm

Elastagen do clinical trials for the treatment of strech marks and acne scars with tropoelastin.The clinical trials will end december 2017. TROPOELASTIN promises to regenetate the skin and treat atrophic scars

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(@binga)

Posted : 07/24/2017 12:23 pm

http://kimeralabs.com/products/

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(@damnboy)

Posted : 07/24/2017 12:45 pm

20 minutes ago, Binga said:

is it avaliable???

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Posted : 07/24/2017 1:00 pm

15 minutes ago, damnBOY said:
36 minutes ago, Binga said:

is it avaliable???

Only through a physician

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(@damnboy)

Posted : 07/24/2017 1:03 pm

can it treat strech marks or acne scars?

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Posted : 07/24/2017 1:04 pm

1 minute ago, damnBOY said:

can it treat strech marks or acne scars?

no idea

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(@anish004)

Posted : 07/25/2017 3:46 am

damnBOY and binga if they have regenrated 3rd degree burn skin...then they can regenrate skin of acne scars ...also

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(@sunnyx)

Posted : 07/25/2017 5:45 am

Yes generally it can be done. The only question is how aggressive the treatment to remove damaged has to be. Because 3rd degree burns have already lost all of the skin layers therefore the SkinTE application is like a paste can be applied within the woundbed similar to the current way of applying a graft! Now the question about already existing acne scars or stretchmarks the question is if it can be done with less aggressive forms, but I think as they want to regrow hair they might have an idea of less aggressive ways instead of complete removal of skin- complete removal would require far longer to heal thus increasing the chances for complications such as infections etc!

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(@mjg713)

Posted : 07/25/2017 8:58 am

3 hours ago, SunnyX said:

Yes generally it can be done. The only question is how aggressive the treatment to remove damaged has to be. Because 3rd degree burns have already lost all of the skin layers therefore the SkinTE application is like a paste can be applied within the woundbed similar to the current way of applying a graft! Now the question about already existing acne scars or stretchmarks the question is if it can be done with less aggressive forms, but I think as they want to regrow hair they might have an idea of less aggressive ways instead of complete removal of skin- complete removal would require far longer to heal thus increasing the chances for complications such as infections etc!

I don't see really what the big deal is with excising the wound. They can possibly do very small areas at a time like they do when they excise a scar now. If it fully regenerates skin then the newly formed skin will be scar free. I'm not sure how they would do this with using microneedling. The skin would have to be fully excised to be able to heal scar free.

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(@anish004)

Posted : 07/25/2017 10:48 am

in my view single needling scar + skinTE is best choice to completely remove any scar

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(@sunnyx)

Posted : 07/25/2017 1:35 pm

4 hours ago, mjg713 said:
7 hours ago, SunnyX said:

Yes generally it can be done. The only question is how aggressive the treatment to remove damaged has to be. Because 3rd degree burns have already lost all of the skin layers therefore the SkinTE application is like a paste can be applied within the woundbed similar to the current way of applying a graft! Now the question about already existing acne scars or stretchmarks the question is if it can be done with less aggressive forms, but I think as they want to regrow hair they might have an idea of less aggressive ways instead of complete removal of skin- complete removal would require far longer to heal thus increasing the chances for complications such as infections etc!

I don't see really what the big deal is with excising the wound. They can possibly do very small areas at a time like they do when they excise a scar now. If it fully regenerates skin then the newly formed skin will be scar free. I'm not sure how they would do this with using microneedling. The skin would have to be fully excised to be able to heal scar free.

Well medical microneedling 2mm - 3mm needle create multiple wounds in the skin, it is used by surgeons to treat burn scars. The problem is currently that microneedling can normalize collagen in the scar but cannot regenerate missing layers. Even follica is looking at sort of micro injury + their component to regenerate lost follicles in the sculp in order to restore hair. So I think mirconeedling could work but also a punch biopsy device can be used to remove small areas instead of of large area. But it would be great if polarity could reply

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Posted : 07/25/2017 3:42 pm

On 7/24/2017 at 1:45 PM, damnBOY said:
On 7/24/2017 at 1:23 PM, Binga said:

is it avaliable???

Hey, did you reach out to Sunogel again?

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(@albaneso)

Posted : 07/26/2017 5:29 pm

Waiting.....

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(@rez77)

Posted : 07/26/2017 10:02 pm

could someone please explain to me exactly how skinTE works and how it repairs scar tissue? fills in acne scars etc.

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(@anish004)

Posted : 07/27/2017 7:27 pm

Rez77 possible skinTE Are devloping a topical which is applied on injured or wounded skin to develop full thick scarless skin

Now supppse you have 2 acne scar on your face..now they are injured or wounded by subcison or needling and they become a active wound now skinTE applied the topical to make scarless healing there ...as this heal the scar vanishes..

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(@mjg713)

Posted : 07/27/2017 9:56 pm

Do you guys think SkinTE will really work? All the science seems to be there and they have a strong team. However, I am kind of skeptical since there has been so many failures.

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Posted : 07/28/2017 1:12 am

3 hours ago, mjg713 said:

Do you guys think SkinTE will really work? All the science seems to be there and they have a strong team. However, I am kind of skeptical since there has been so many failures.

They are currently conducting human trials in burn clinics. I guess by the end of this year we will see the results. I hope it does work and I am very confident that it will because it did work very well in swine models and very often if it works there it does also in humans. However, human immune system etc is different which could possibly lead to failure. So I guess we have to wait till results from trials are available. Fingers crossed

On 27.7.2017 at 5:02 AM, Rez77 said:

could someone please explain to me exactly how skinTE works and how it repairs scar tissue? fills in acne scars etc.

Here is the patent and how it works
https://www.google.com/patents/WO2016089825A1?cl=zh

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(@anish004)

Posted : 07/29/2017 10:15 am

 i think Epicel is available read this

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Posted : 07/30/2017 2:56 pm

On 29.7.2017 at 5:15 PM, Anish004 said:
 i think Epicel is available read this

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Epicel does not regenerate skin it just provides the top layer epidermis to close the wounds. So it's useless!

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