You guys have been quiet lately   https://3dprint.com/144994/chinese-research-3d-printed-skin/

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/22/russian-man-to-undergo-worlds-first-full-head-transplant/

My point is, don't believe everything you read. These people keep the innovation going but I'm not hopeful.

18 hours ago, acastro0069 said:

You guys have been quiet lately   https://3dprint.com/144994/chinese-research-3d-printed-skin/

I saw this, however I must say I think 3d printing is a bit hyped. So they 3d print the skin and then what?

The sunogel thing doesn't impress me, a wound on a finger is generally going to heal differently (better) than other areas like the face. I couldn't believe the thing about 3d printed skin but if it does work it'd better be available to everyone

http://friscofastball.com/2016/10/27/important-form-d-filing-gemstone-biotherapeutics-3-50-million-fundraising-george-davis-filed-oct-27-form-d/

2 hours ago, rudy1986 said:

http://friscofastball.com/2016/10/27/important-form-d-filing-gemstone-biotherapeutics-3-50-million-fundraising-george-davis-filed-oct-27-form-d/

I'm assuming this is good news?

In an interview on "Magandang Gabi Dok" on DZMM, Dr. Oscar Tagulinao, a plastic surgeon, explained that it is impossible to totally remove scars from the skin.

Wha? Why excision won't work?

18 hours ago, Rossi said:

In an interview on "Magandang Gabi Dok" on DZMM, Dr. Oscar Tagulinao, a plastic surgeon, explained that it is impossible to totally remove scars from the skin.

Yes, it is impossible to remove scars from skin currently. This thread is about future technologies and medicine which will promote superior wound healing to what we currently have available.

http://cosmeticsurgerytimes.modernmedicine.com/cosmetic-surgery-times/news/skingun-technology-repairs-skin

Could someone get in contact with sunogel to figure out when the release date is? I e-mailed them but didn't get a response. Also, other than gemstone, what are companies are working on this?

Me and Dr.Sun is on good terms.. so what?

^You know the people behind sunogel? I was wondering if they had any announcements or updates or a potential release date.

I'm sorry but can someone just clarify something for me. The dextran hydrogel that worked on mice.. that's different from sunogel, correct? Did Dr. Sun work on the dextran hydrogel, or just the sunogel? Also, does anyone know the current updates on both?

yo, anyone there? Rudy?

I'm here! I've been here for over 3 years now, and I try to check this forum at least once every week or so. There's never any updates it seems though. Not much to talk about I guess. Disappointing really, I thought I'd see more progress by now.

Hey. Thanks for responding. If Rudy knows the people at Sunogel I would really appreciate some sort of info regarding results and release date, since they haven't responded to me. If there's not any reason to think we'll have a solution in the next 10 years I'll kill myself, I just want to know.

http://www.news-medical.net/news/20160827/BirchBioMed-announces-successful-completion-of-Phase-I-trial-for-topical-treatment-to-prevent-scarring.aspx

This is some other good news I guess^

12 hours ago, scarred2468 said:

Hey. Thanks for responding. If Rudy knows the people at Sunogel I would really appreciate some sort of info regarding results and release date, since they haven't responded to me. If there's not any reason to think we'll have a solution in the next 10 years I'll kill myself, I just want to know.

I would like a solution within the next year tbh. I, as well as hundredss of others, have waited long enough constantly checking this forum for some sort of miracle.

Thanks for the link. It advertised itself as "minimal" scarring, not scarless, but thank you nonetheless. They shouldn't use phrases like "complete skin regeneration" if it doesn't look like regular skin, it's completely contradictory.

On 11/20/2016 at 2:04 PM, scarred2468 said:

Thanks for the link. It advertised itself as "minimal" scarring, not scarless, but thank you nonetheless. They shouldn't use phrases like "complete skin regeneration" if it doesn't look like regular skin, it's completely contradictory.

I agree. It's false advertising, either that or these people really don't know the meaning of complete regeneration.

Yeah...

Regarding the timeline for this stuff, it will unfortunately be years until we see something since the fda approval process takes 8-12 years on average (record is 5 I think). That's why I say 10 years. Just knowing it would be good enough for me, but it has to startnow.

I was curious about sunogel because unlike gemstone, who had the potential to usecytokines and growth factors in theirhydrogel, (theybasically said "good enough" with just the gel), Sunogelclaims it is aimed to achieve perfect cutaneous healing, so at least the ambition is there. They are both hydrogels however. So unless there's something better I'd love to hear from Rudy if he knows Dr. Sun, because I hate to break it to him but his company website sucks.

5 hours ago, scarred2468 said:

Yeah...

Regarding the timeline for this stuff, it will unfortunately be years until we see something since the fda approval process takes 8-12 years on average (record is 5 I think). That's why I say 10 years. Just knowing it would be good enough for me, but it has to startnow.

I was curious about sunogel because unlike gemstone, who had the potential to usecytokines and growth factors in theirhydrogel, (theybasically said "good enough" with just the gel), Sunogelclaims it is aimed to achieve perfect cutaneous healing, so at least the ambition is there. They are both hydrogels however. So unless there's something better I'd love to hear from Rudy if he knows Dr. Sun, because I hate to break it to him but his company website sucks.

For the record, if it hypothetically was a hydrogel that fixed scars it would be classified as a device. Devices with no drugs involved can be approved by the FDA in 1 year. If it is not a hydrogel, there is always traveling out of the US to a country that approves treatments faster.

^

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what

It can be classified as a device? What about if it contains cytokines and other biological chemicals? Where can I read about this fda device stuff?

That's unbelievable news if that short of a time could give us the solution once it's found.

edit, I read a bit about it. Also, apparently there are differences between "physically" structured and "chemically" structured hydrogels, and this could affect release. If Gemstone's is a dextran based gel, maybe this will mean it has to go through the full trials? And it's still unclear what sunogel even is

3 minutes ago, scarred2468 said:

edit, I read a bit about it. Also, apparently there are differences between "physically" structured and "chemically" structured hydrogels, and this could affect release. If Gemstone's is a dextran based gel, maybe this will mean it has to go through the full trials? And it's still unclear what sunogel even is

I'm almost positive I've read before that Gemstone's dextran based gel is a device that would only need around a year or less for FDA approval. It does not contain any drugs that I know of, I would imagine Sunogel is similar.