8 hours ago, Rez77 said:

Guys we need to really up the game here a bit. I'm assuming the worst acne scar sufferers are on this thread, right? And in a few months it will be 10 years this thread began. Most of the FDA "studies" and products you guys are discussing are promising results 10 years from now. So really that means 20. Which means approximately 2030 when we'll see a product that will actually deal with the pitted scars. My bro has been getting laser, with fillers and microneedling and I gotta say it's done shit all and his scarring is minimal compared to mine.

Just face it we're fucked. Grow a beard like i've done, it hinds most of my worst scars except the ones around the temple area are really bad. Thing is, the scars actually get way worse as you age and your face has less collagen in it.

I mean I have no idea cause there are like three levels at which this would be needed to attacked. 1) there's just the unevenness of the skin 2) there's the huge build up of scar tissue which is why if you actually surgically lift the scar it still looks really bad cause that skin that's lifted is all scar tissue --trye of hypo scars as well and then 3) there's the huge loss of volume that scars creat (or the buildup of skin and hypo scar tissue) which I don't even know how it would be removed like with a scalpel but how does that then not leave a new scar?

So 2030 is the date which interestingly coincides with when Dr. Ray Kurzweil argues the first true nano-technologies will be applied in medical practice. Fascinating because it would require just that sort of radical paradigm shift for something that even begins to address acne scars on a holistic level.

i think so..maybe even earlier

Agree with you

Hmmmm I understand why you guys are losing hope and frustrated. But were at the stage of where technology is progressing faster than people anticipated. I don't know if you guys follow reddit futurology. But that will provide you news on how our technology has improved and evolved. I surf there to wait for any success on treating or curing scars, as well as some more important matters like AI,Self driving cars, Hyperloops, Moving to other planets and curing aging. I'm estimating around 2019-2025 is the time when our life will changed forever, so get ready . As of now go enjoy yourselves. Read a book,have fun with your family,Gain experience, Dress better, Groom yourself,learn new hobbies and skills, Just be the best version that you can be right now. So by the time we get our scars removed permanently, our life satisfaction will be through the roof. And you might be interested in making your scars less rough or look better. For that I use Retin-a, fillers, and I drink matcha green tea(good for preventing collagen breakdown, anti aging, and just healthy looking skin overall.) And i'll be doing this until the cure comes. It may not come this year or next year BUT as long as I know it's coming i can be a little bit of ease. Success is not a sprint, It is a journey. Cheers guys 

2019 is too far for me. Call me selfish and annoying, but I have been anxiously awaiting this hydrogel since 2013 now. I keep hoping that 2016 will be the year that scar free regeneration for humans is a thing, and I hope I'm not crazy for thinking that it could be.

I'm back and recovered my account, Collegekidd i was asking myself the same question just yesterday.

I would hope we get there in 5 years The amount of times i have to think about skin sometimes is a joke. I've had 2x tca cross, duel fraxel, laser 1550, 2 picosure laser maybe 3? , I will be going in RF Needling next week to, in which i plain to suction my skin after a day of treatment to see if it aids in improving skin.

My skin is a lot better now, but some days it gets me down in bad lighting, I will let you guys know if u interested in how RF goes with suction

umm, ya'll... https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2016/04/160401144507.htm they grew skin! This has to be good news, right? i mean this sounds pretty good?
"Using reprogrammed iPS cells, scientists from the RIKEN Center for Developmental Biology (CDB) in Japan have, along with collaborators from Tokyo University of Science and other Japanese institutions, successfully grown complex skin tissue--complete with hair follicles and sebaceous glands--in the laboratory. They were then able to implant these three-dimensional tissues into living mice, and the tissues formed proper connections with other organ systems such as nerves and muscle fibers. This work opens a path to creating functional skin transplants for burn and other patients who require new skin. "

I'm sorry to break it to you, but Rez77 is right. You hear these news about lab grown organs but still people die waiting for a transplant. Many of them are rich people so money isn't the obstacle here.
Another thing people fail to realize in this ever evolving technological world is that cells, tissue and organs are arguably far more complex than the simple math involved in computers. There is no connection between development of self-driving cars and new legs being created to give someone their hability to walk again. While skin is apparently asmaller organ it's one of the most complex ones with multiple functions besides covering our body. I am all but interested in such technology, but I highly doubt we'll see anything consumer-related in our lifetime.

We've heard of crazier things that are possible in our lifetime than scar free skin regeneration. I still have hope I guess. I'm just growing impatient, I thought by now my scars would be gone, or at least I would know that they would be really soon.

best example of how hopeless this is is that i've seen the papers of the latest cosmetic surgery/dermatology industry reports that predict what doctors need to invest in projecting for the next 20 years, they actually say, things like teeth or some sort of autologous tissue grafting made in a lab is not expected for the next 20 years!!!!!!!!!!!! That's what the industry is saying. So i mean all this is just stupid journalism and lab bullshit without any clinical use.

this sounds like it's fucking exciting but it's not. just to get skin, decades motherfuckers DECADES!!!!

So like 30 fucking years from now. not 5, not 10. FUCK THIS SLOW ASS WORLD WITH SLOW ASS PROGRESS. THIS THREAD IS 10 years LONG!!!
I WAS AT IT AT THE BEGINNING! I'VE WASTED 10 YEARS OF MY LIFE WAITING. I"M THROUGH. I'm GONNA SHAVE MY HEAD AND BECOME A BUDDHIST MONK. THIS WORLD IS BULLSHIT.

https://theconversation.com/how-long-until-we-can-print-human-faces-in-the-lab-56303

idk about 30 years but look at the advancements with from 2000 to 2012, just hoping something great comes in 5 years otherwise, i will question my existance

it sounds simple because its skin but its not
the process behind regeneration is complex and only when you know how it works 100% and how to manage it you can achieve something
skin regeneration can be harder than a cancer cure, same for baldness.
these are the first world problems, i dont have any doubt that one day they will not be and ppl will laugh and say
"oh... back in 2000 ppl had to deal with acne and acne scars..."
dont expect it soon thought...
if we manage to cure scars in THIS century is a great advance, believe me.

3 hours ago, De Rerum Natura said:

it sounds simple because its skin but its not
the process behind regeneration is complex and only when you know how it works 100% and how to manage it you can achieve something
skin regeneration can be harder than a cancer cure, same for baldness.
these are the first world problems, i dont have any doubt that one day they will not be and ppl will laugh and say
"oh... back in 2000 ppl had to deal with acne and acne scars..."
dont expect it soon thought...
if we manage to cure scars in THIS century is a great advance, believe me.

Sad to say, he's fucking right. If our grandchildren have a cure it'll be a miracle. Really sucks, we don't even know simple shit like baldness --NOTHING has changed in biological industries from 2000-2012 --absolutelfy fucking nothing --we still fill cavities in teeth the same way we did in the fucking 1940s, people still get bald, get grey hair, there's no cure for shit. We just have more streamlined capitalist economies to rob us of money and hope. I read a depressing report that even MOORE's law is slowing down so forget all that kurzweil singularity shit.

These posts are so depressing. Why don't we actually try to gain attention to scar-free healing and the hydrogel, if it even works. Nothing has been posted in the Facebook page for the hydrogel in like two years. There must be something we can do.

Is Sunogel the same as Hydrogel?

We dont need to be upset about the difficult to solve the regeneration puzzle.
What is the difference aesthetically speaking from 99% improvement on scar aspect and a 100% regeneration?
basically nothing. But the complexity of a 100% regeneration is far beyond more difficult than a 99% improvement.
the main objectivehere is just make the scardisappear for about 99% and notnecessarily healthem 100%
and i think in the next decade we will could possibly achievethese results more easily.
we already can see some cases of scars becoming invisible to see already,but not the very deep ones YET
i think in this competition surgeons areahead from the 'science regeneration' attempt with stem cells etc..

On 9-4-2016 at 3:57 PM, Frasier said:

Is Sunogel the same as Hydrogel?

I think it's the same principle/idea/concept.

(Hydrogel) https://www.facebook.com/Scar-free-healing-complete-skin-regeneration-with-Dextran-Hydrogel-320446228073161/?fref=ts

How about acell? I saw some cases that this used to treat scar for hair transplant and I've read a long time ago a testimony about a doctor that used concomitantly tca and acell to treat self stretch marks with success.

I think that Recell, Aceel and another cell therapies concomitantly with strong resurfacing like, phenol peel, deep fx or fraxel re:pair, are the best options today, skin and fat grafting sounds good too. Give me us your opinions.

http://futurism.com/game-changing-stem-cell-technique-developed/

On 4/16/2016 at 7:01 AM, acastro0069 said:

http://futurism.com/game-changing-stem-cell-technique-developed/

This is amazing! I can only hope that this encourages the hydrogel process to rapidly move forward as well.

On 16-4-2016 at 1:01 PM, acastro0069 said:

http://futurism.com/game-changing-stem-cell-technique-developed/

Interesting... I'm not sure I agree with them basically saying they've found the "Holy grail" as I don't think they have but it's definately an interesting development if I've understood correctly and induced multipotent stem cells have only now been realized.

Thanks for sharing.

That statement may not be true - these scientists certainly dont know for sure.
There is no consensus on the process of aging, so there is no basis on which to claim the ability to reverse it
Trying to modify genes in a human is extremely dangerous and with a million of possible negative consequences
Another week, another miracle cure for ageing or cancer etc..

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4078877/
http://www.tau.ac.il/~agolberg/pdf/2013_2.pdf
http://www.google.com/patents/WO2014105964A1?cl=en
http://cfsib.com/bioengineering/pulsed-electric/
http://www.nature.com/articles/srep10187
http://www.pulsebiosciences.com/basal-cell-carcinoma/
The basal cell carcinoma was removed scarlessly.. Interesting. This technology seems very promising, and from what I understand already has FDA approval for soft tissue ablation as it's being used to treat cancer. I just wonder why there isn't any treatment being used yet for scar ablation.

I want to start by saying that I do not have acne. However, I recently acquired a small scar that is troubling me. I found this thread about scarless healing and it interested me that this one day can be a possibility. Without going through 271 pages, can someone tell me the progress of this for say trauma scars or surgical scars? Would these type of scars be easier to treat than acne scars? Is there any estimate on how long we will see this technology? I would be happy with even say 90% improvement compared to completely scarless healing. Thank you in advance.