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There has been a steady stream of publications on skin regeneration for years now.
I'm not sure about the egg yolk thing, but there are many universities and research groups actively looking into this and can be found in the dozens of links we have posted in this thread. There are plenty of fallbacks if hydrogel fails.
I agree with you. I'm sure scar-free future is almost here. There are so many things that being worked on.
If anyone interested, I got all papers I need, so now I'm looking for a beochemist.
My point is we don't need scarless healing to fix our scars, combining existing treatments that work with optimized healing and, above all, persistence should eventually yield a satisfactory result e.g. near-perfect skin that appears normal to everybody else. Apply some transparent primer and voila, even the micro-scarring is gone and you appear to have smooth, perfect skin.
We already know how to fill up icepicks/pores, we already know how to level out boxcar and rolling scars, we already know which biochemical actives yield spectacular healing results, we already have dozens of resurfacing options for finishing things up, we already have the solutions, although they're not in a neat, simple package.
Impatience prevents people from staying on the correct course, they feel a certain course of treatment is working "too slowly" so they foolishly stop and move onto something else, something that may actually be even less effective. And naturally, disappointment ensues.
Bottom line is this: the deeper and more pronounced your scarring is the longer it will take to fix it. It may take a couple of years, maybe more, other than excision there is no quick fix. But as those recent combination therapy studies have shown, it IS possible to gradually reverse atrophic scarring, at least in a significant number of patients.
Okay, show me ONE, just ONE example of someone who in the same photographs and lighting set up, frame, posture from a before and after pic has EVEN 60 (better than chance) improvement. JUST ONE.
Here you have example Its like 80-90 % improvement
Yeah, and if he'd combined that (subcision) with needling and TCA peels as per those cited studies he'd almost certainly get to 99/100% in the end like some of those others did.
Again, we don't need the hydrogel to fix our scars, its simply a matter of figuring out which existing methods to combine and how.
My case is different. I got a totally fucked up on the face. There are atrophic scars and a lotta hypertrophic ones. I did TCA up to 30%, dermarollling 1.5-2 mm, subcision for the atrophic ones, single needling for both types, and so on and so forth. I used tretinoin up to 0,1%, vitamin C, MSM, copper peptides, HA, and other things. I combined all those things and got minimal improvement. Even with a big improvement my face will be very uneven. The only way is cut parts of the skin and then regenerate them... This is just last hope. I have nothing against those stuff, they work well, but, as I said before, these stuff won't help in my case. That's it.
There are atrophic scars and a lotta hypertrophic ones.
Atrophic scars are much harder to fix than hypertrophic ones, but we know how to fix both.
I did TCA up to 30%
Peels or CROSS? You can go up to 35% for peels and 100% for CROSS. Full-strength CROSS is highly effective, do it enough times and the pits will magically fill up. If you have never tried it I suggest you start.
dermarollling 1.5-2 mm
Combine it with dermastamping on the scar clusters, but after needling them individually as aggressively as possible.
subcision for the atrophic ones, single needling for both types
Good, that is an effective modality. Don't ever stop, keep going, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
I used tretinoin up to 0,1%, vitamin C
Used? Why did you stop? Don't ever stop using those, they work! Science has proven it!
MSM, copper peptides, HA
You can do without those, there's very little evidence that MSM actually does anything and scant evidence for CP, only the 1st generation (GHK-Cu) has seen some testing, and that was a long time ago, nothing recent. The 2nd gen is likely a scam.
I combined all those things and got minimal improvement.
Minimal improvement is still improvement, if you can get 10% there's no reason why you couldn't eventually reach 99/100%, its just going to take a longer amount of time. You just need to be PERSISTENT and accept that it might take a couple years. But it IS achievable.
You may also be a poor healer. I've asked you this before; are you a smoker? Because if so, you are seriously crippling your ability to heal and produce collagen, you shouldn't expect any significant improvements until you've quit.
Smoking and wound healing do not go together. Why? Because just one puff of a cigarette can further restrict much needed oxygen and blood traveling to the place of injury. We all tend to associate cigarettes with lung disease, but did you know that smoking affects every cell in your body? Even one cigarette limits oxygen flow throughout the body.
http://www.woundcareclinic.net/2013/smoking-and-wound-healing/
Smoking affects collagen synthesis and extracellular matrix turnover in human skin.
CONCLUSIONS: Smoking decreases the synthesis rates of type I and III collagens in skin in vivo and alters the balance of extracellular matrix turnover in skin.
This sht is taking to long, why the hell cant they even come up with something to cover it that guys can use and wont take ages ffs
Mite have to give recell i go, but noone in australia and do that, i think its gunna cost 9k and plane etc should be up to 20k
ReCell is a resurfacing treatment, not an atrophic scar treatment. If you're expecting it to fix your scarring you're going to be very disappointed. Save your money for something that will first fill up the scars and THEN maybe do the ReCell.
Atrophic scars are much harder to fix than hypertrophic ones, but we know how to fix both.
But they didn't fix...
Peels or CROSS? You can go up to 35% for peels and 100% for CROSS. Full-strength CROSS is highly effective, do it enough times and the pits will magically fill up. If you have never tried it I suggest you start.
Peels. I don't have any icepeaks.
Combine it with dermastamping on the scar clusters, but after needling them individually as aggressively as possible.
I did so. I had very complex sessions.
Good, that is an effective modality. Don't ever stop, keep going, you have nothing to lose and everything to gain.
Dude, you didn't see my face. Even if I get a noticeble iprovement my face will be very uneven anyway. Thtat's true.
Used? Why did you stop? Don't ever stop using those, they work! Science has proven it!
They irritate my face. It's look red and shiny. Even with a good moisturizers.
You can do without those, there's very little evidence that MSM actually does anything and scant evidence for CP, only the 1st generation (GHK-Cu) has seen some testing, and that was a long time ago, nothing recent. The 2nd gen is likely a scam.
I used GHK-Cu.
Minimal improvement is still improvement, if you can get 10% there's no reason why you couldn't eventually reach 99/100%, its just going to take a longer amount of time. You just need to be PERSISTENT and accept that it might take a couple years. But it IS achievable.
100% means a skin as it was before. It's impossible for my face. Just believe me.
You may also be a poor healer. I've asked you this before; are you a smoker? Because if so, you are seriously crippling your ability to heal and produce collagen, you shouldn't expect any significant improvements until you've quit.
Smoking and wound healing do not go together. Why? Because just one puff of a cigarette can further restrict much needed oxygen and blood traveling to the place of injury. We all tend to associate cigarettes with lung disease, but did you know that smoking affects every cell in your body? Even one cigarette limits oxygen flow throughout the body.
http://www.woundcareclinic.net/2013/smoking-and-wound-healing/
>>Smoking affects collagen synthesis and extracellular matrix turnover in human skin.
CONCLUSIONS: Smoking decreases the synthesis rates of type I and III collagens in skin in vivo and alters the balance of extracellular matrix turnover in skin.
Yeah, I am. I know it's a problem. Imma quit soon.
My point is we don't need scarless healing to fix our scars, combining existing treatments that work with optimized healing and, above all, persistence should eventually yield a satisfactory result e.g. near-perfect skin that appears normal to everybody else. Apply some transparent primer and voila, even the micro-scarring is gone and you appear to have smooth, perfect skin.
We already know how to fill up icepicks/pores, we already know how to level out boxcar and rolling scars, we already know which biochemical actives yield spectacular healing results, we already have dozens of resurfacing options for finishing things up, we already have the solutions, although they're not in a neat, simple package.
Impatience prevents people from staying on the correct course, they feel a certain course of treatment is working "too slowly" so they foolishly stop and move onto something else, something that may actually be even less effective. And naturally, disappointment ensues.
Bottom line is this: the deeper and more pronounced your scarring is the longer it will take to fix it. It may take a couple of years, maybe more, other than excision there is no quick fix. But as those recent combination therapy studies have shown, it IS possible to gradually reverse atrophic scarring, at least in a significant number of patients.
Okay, show me ONE, just ONE example of someone who in the same photographs and lighting set up, frame, posture from a before and after pic has EVEN 60 (better than chance) improvement. JUST ONE.
I have around 60%+ improvement (with indents) and its been just under a year, some scars responded better than others. I still have a little ways to go before I'm satisfied with my scars, but they certainly don't bug me quite as much as before. I have some before and after pics in my gallery, but the pics aren't that great or convincing or with the same pose, or exact same lighting, etc. So you would only really have my word on the percent of improvement. No pics of where I am as of now yet though. I haven't updated for a while, the after pics in my gallery were from about 6 months ago.
Will you be updating your gallery soon? So curious how much improvement you have gotten with the laser...was it worth it?
