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(@rudy1986)

Posted : 02/16/2015 10:28 am

i wanna ask all your opinion about my scar which is in my profile picture.. if you see people with skinn issues like me, is it horrible? Thx guys youre the best

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(@scarfacepanda)

Posted : 02/16/2015 8:32 pm

hi ,

I got over the Great-Fire-Wall and find there. I have some confidence when I read this topic somehow---a topic lasts 7 years with more than 5000 reply,from recell to artificial intelligence,someone leave and someone stay.We all suffers despair,but the discussion(dream,whatever) goes on,And it is the goddamn HOPE.

To be honest,I accept this problem maybe not solved in 20 years, or the solution comes to late for me , but our insist shows the necessary to solve it.Someone have to take this part ,they just have to,

Thx for everyone.

BTW,anyone saw the reply,

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(@skinregenerator)

Posted : 02/17/2015 10:59 am

hi ,

I got over the Great-Fire-Wall and find there. I have some confidence when I read this topic somehow---a topic lasts 7 years with more than 5000 reply,from recell to artificial intelligence,someone leave and someone stay.We all suffers despair,but the discussion(dream,whatever) goes on,And it is the goddamn HOPE.

To be honest,I accept this problem maybe not solved in 20 years, or the solution comes to late for me , but our insist shows the necessary to solve it.Someone have to take this part ,they just have to,

Thx for everyone.

BTW,anyone saw the reply,

I guarantee you that it won't be 20 years long,

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(@cycloverid)

Posted : 02/18/2015 5:19 am

There's been a bit of news about collagen from Tilapia fish accelerating wound healing lately. Thought I'd just share a link as I am often prone to doing:

http://www.zmescience.com/science/biology/tilapia-collagen-18022015/

There was actually a study done on it and they demonstrate vastly improved wound healing over the control. They chose marine-based collagen because it doesn't have the possibility of transferring mammalian diseases.

They have a rival company that is using soybean based protein for improved wound healing that is a few years ahead in research. But, according to the article, they are both going to attempt FDA approval soon.

This seems like it would be a great thing to combine with skin procedures, such as needling, dermarolling or laser.

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Posted : 02/19/2015 9:03 am

There's been a bit of news about collagen from Tilapia fish accelerating wound healing lately. Thought I'd just share a link as I am often prone to doing:

http://www.zmescience.com/science/biology/tilapia-collagen-18022015/

There was actually a study done on it and they demonstrate vastly improved wound healing over the control. They chose marine-based collagen because it doesn't have the possibility of transferring mammalian diseases.

They have a rival company that is using soybean based protein for improved wound healing that is a few years ahead in research. But, according to the article, they are both going to attempt FDA approval soon.

This seems like it would be a great thing to combine with skin procedures, such as needling, dermarolling or laser.

Collagen may not be a good candidate

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(@cycloverid)

Posted : 02/19/2015 4:18 pm

What makes you say that? And are you referring specifically to complete regeneration or improved wound healing?

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(@rudy1986)

Posted : 02/21/2015 8:57 am

Are the gerecht lab actually still aiming for scar free healing?

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(@skinregenerator)

Posted : 02/21/2015 12:11 pm

Are the gerecht lab actually still aiming for scar free healing?

doubt that. No publication on wound healing on their website recently

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(@rudy1986)

Posted : 02/22/2015 9:46 am

http://alliancerm.org/member/sironrx-therapeutics

 

Another hope that prevent scar formation

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(@rudy1986)

Posted : 02/24/2015 3:41 am

I dont really believe any so called injection treatment.. it just seems so fake

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(@binga)

Posted : 02/24/2015 6:46 am

Few Clinical trials FYI:

http://www.laserskinsurgery.com/Clinical-Trials

http://www.newjerseyplasticsurgery.com/clinical-trials/

You can also google groupon deals for dermapen with PRP, cheapest scar treatment out there.

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(@rez77)

Posted : 02/26/2015 2:29 am

jesus why do I bother? Well clearly cause I too have the same sort of delusional yeah I said delusional any of this is going anywhere. Dudes for our degree of scars, rudy 1986 I have scarring like you, we need way more than bloody lasers. LASERS do not do shit. Trust me, I have NEVER seen lasers do anything other than temporary inflammation which makes it look like they did something and then wham results are gone in like a month and you're back to ground-zero.

Rudy I think you could get maybe some improvement from fillers. Have you looked into either subcision or dermal fillers? Sure you'll have to do it again in 6 months but just try it. See what happens. There's no harm and if anything it causes native collagen stimulation so you might a little permanent improvement too.

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(@rudy1986)

Posted : 02/26/2015 7:08 am

Rez77 thx for your reccommendation.. but my scars is really far from your case man.. it is really really really severe

 

You can still alive when smiling i guess.. i cant.. everyone sees me like a horrible monster

 

Anyway i will try filler like you said

 

Hope i will get improvement even slightly

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(@bloodwar44)

Posted : 02/26/2015 1:35 pm

my face has 3rd degree burns....im the monster not you rudy..

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(@jackdoe)

Posted : 02/27/2015 8:14 am

Hi guys! What is the main idea of this thread? I can hardly read this thread cause i'm not a native. It's really hard to me...

If i get you right, the key idea is to cut out a scar and apply "scar healing" method. Then that will heal without scarring like normal tissue. Did i get you right? It sounds awesome. Can you tell me more in a nutshell please?

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(@rudy1986)

Posted : 02/27/2015 11:28 am

Okay i summarize about this thread..

 

Beginninh in 2007(the first 100 page in this thread is about a hope about decorin as the hope of our scar free healing

 

Then 100++ page of this thread is discussing about hydrogel (a method just like what you just said as our new hope about scar free healing) and about our attempts to make contact with hydrogel researcher and hoping it gets funded

 

Thr 200++ page of this thread is where we got info that hydrogel gets funded by a company known as Gemstone therapeutics

(You can see here : www.gem-bio.com)

 

about hydrogel:

1. It is able to regenerate mice skin injured from 3rd degree burn as a new hair follicle and sebaceous glands are regenerated as proof

 

2. Hydrogel is currently being trialed in pigs with "promising" as their current result. This trial is planned to be finalized in 2015

 

3. Hydrogel is planned to enter human trials in mid to late 2016

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(@jackdoe)

Posted : 02/27/2015 6:36 pm

Thanks a lot, rudy. Very interesting info. I followed this topic.

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(@imad)

Posted : 02/28/2015 2:50 am

man oh man if, us people can get hydrogel to fix 90% of the scaring id be more then happy

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(@jackdoe)

Posted : 02/28/2015 3:14 am

great improvements with that treatments.

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(@rudy1986)

Posted : 03/03/2015 10:03 am

Its March, who's here at Jakarta?

 

1 of their scientist, Laura Dickinson is givin a speech about their current progress of scar free healing. Its an interesting speech i guess coming directly from gemstone itself

 

http://www.isbiotech.org/5thspringmeeting.html

 

http://gem-bio.com.s198477.gridserver.com/category/events/

 

 

Any thoughts guys?

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(@rudy1986)

Posted : 03/04/2015 10:56 am

Can anyone please explaint to me as to why ear piercing would not close after years?

 

Not even scar forms from ear piercing?

 

Why is that happening

 

Any explanation would be highly appreciated...

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(@skinregenerator)

Posted : 03/04/2015 4:55 pm

Its March, who's here at Jakarta?

 

1 of their scientist, Laura Dickinson is givin a speech about their current progress of scar free healing. Its an interesting speech i guess coming directly from gemstone itself

 

http://www.isbiotech.org/5thspringmeeting.html

 

http://gem-bio.com.s198477.gridserver.com/category/events/

 

 

Any thoughts guys?

it says stem cell,not wound healing?

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(@robertitoo)

Posted : 03/04/2015 5:19 pm

Can anyone please explaint to me as to why ear piercing would not close after years?

 

Not even scar forms from ear piercing?

 

Why is that happening

 

Any explanation would be highly appreciated...

Well, you explain to me why our ears don't get pimples or hyper pigmentation? I believe the skin on our faces is far more complex but also way more susceptible to damage then skin on any other part of our bodies.

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(@lapis-lazuli)

Posted : 03/04/2015 7:11 pm

man oh man if, us people can get hydrogel to fix 90% of the scaring id be more then happy

How would that work exactly? The treatment regenerates all but 10% of your skin? lol If you ask me you've only got true scarless healing and then you have treatments that don't regenerate skin at all...

Anyway, this hydrogel I've read about on the Gemstone website. It only says "promising" when it comes to the pig trials. If they had the same results as those they had with the mouse then "promising" would instead have been "exhilarating" or "as hoped for" or something along those lines.

It's still interesting to me though. Any genuine advancement is to be celebrated.

It's amazing that they (surgeons) still can't regenerate skin seeing that they (research scientists) know so much. They've uncovered so much yet they still haven't discovered the recipe for scarless healing. What is it that eludes them? What piece of the puzzle are they missing? If only we knew... If only we knew.

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