Acne.org Products
uhm i'm not a scientist, but if I was one of the scientists, I would just pull a Bruce Banner, and cut myself, like on my leg or somewhere and slather some hydrogel over it and see if produced scarless healing!!?? I mean the whole thing is just too good to be true. I mean some rogue laboratory somewhere in the world would have tried tried to reproduce it in humans already. The applications for this technology are too vast to just be like "oh well, we're only allowed to test on mice so well, we don't have funding or approval, let's just twiddle our thumbs" --this is the reason I'm skeptical. I mean as you guys seem to mention, this hydrogel isn't that complex a substance. I'll offer myself up as a guinea pig right now. Tell me where to get it or how to make it and I'll burn myself with a cigarette or something and tell you guys if it worked or not!
uhm i'm not a scientist, but if I was one of the scientists, I would just pull a Bruce Banner, and cut myself, like on my leg or somewhere and slather some hydrogel over it and see if produced scarless healing!!?? I mean the whole thing is just too good to be true. I mean some rogue laboratory somewhere in the world would have tried tried to reproduce it in humans already. The applications for this technology are too vast to just be like "oh well, we're only allowed to test on mice so well, we don't have funding or approval, let's just twiddle our thumbs" --this is the reason I'm skeptical. I mean as you guys seem to mention, this hydrogel isn't that complex a substance. I'll offer myself up as a guinea pig right now. Tell me where to get it or how to make it and I'll burn myself with a cigarette or something and tell you guys if it worked or not!
@rez77 So so true what you say. Damn it
Do you believe that the hydrogel will regenerate perfect textures? That is the only important thing, everything else is irrelevant. And I hope that scar free healing really means scar free healing and not scarless healing and that complete regeneration really means complete regeneration and not incomplete regeneration! And do you believe that if they found a way to somehow further increase hydrogel's pore size then maybe the reepithelization process would be further accelerated? And what do you think about induced pluripotent stem cells? It is the fact that it is now possible to convert fibroblast cells into any other type of cells, you've mentioned that decorin at 200nm can stop over proliferation of fibroblasts and thus achieving scar free healing.
Do I believe? That would convey an opinion. Its a fact it got eaten rapidly, created cells and got perfect textures (it got complete regeneration, full structural appendages). The paper has shown complete regeneration. And, again, if there was imperfect tissues there would be 'incomplete regeneration', which would involve scar blocking off the complete regeneration giving imperfect texture. In the paper the only thing that got incomplete regeneration was the control; the gel got complete regeneration with no scar blocking off the regeneration. If it stated anything with incomplete regeneration Id ignore it, or if it had no results and theorised something, I personally would not give it attention.
And do I believe with regards to a bigger pore size... I think we can say they must have spent a long time discussing, optimizing and retesting the gel and the control and have optimized the loose hydrogel and have then proven it digests the fastest in this paper... However, with regards to the pore size, going on the paper the 8020 had a bigger pore size than the 6040 and way bigger than the control and how the 8020, with a bigger pore size, degraded fastest I can see the clear link you are seeing, that I also share btw, between the pore size of the control and the hydrogel. But there is also one more strong variable and that variable could just be a digestable component??? Like something edible combined with the gel pore size for the digestion??? I mean most organisms digest. But looking at the scale of the pore size there looks like some logic here with a bigger pore size could help it soak and digest more. In the paper there looks like a link here between pore size , and digestion. That imo is a good point. However my logical belief here is it is an edible content alongside the pore size that allowed speedy infiltration and digestion by the whiteblood cells (most organisms eat carbs when they access them). It is not just the porosity. I bet someone could engineer some piece of metal with porosity, but the white blood cells would not eat the metal.
Fact: hydrogel only been tested on mice, so that work in humans just an opinion, nothing more than that, it's like saying hydrogel work in all people, when perhaps hydrogel not do at all, it should be remembered there are different types of scarring for different kinds of people and different types of diseases that affect the same.usted simply is giving an opinion in the future. you just think.
I hope you're right path, it just an opinion
nothing more, just an opinion
There is 'one' type of scarring: an over production of collagen that blocks off regeneration. There is no other type of scarring.
It is a scaffold that degrades via the mammals whiteblood cells eating it, thats it; just like the state of the art control which also behaved typically, and scarred; and scarred exactly like it does in all mammals. Scaffolds do not discriminate, they just get eaten by the whitebloodcells, they do not come out of the wrapping and say, oh I dont like chicken today. Unless it had a brain, it would be never react any differently just like anything digested.
uhm i'm not a scientist, but if I was one of the scientists, I would just pull a Bruce Banner, and cut myself, like on my leg or somewhere and slather some hydrogel over it and see if produced scarless healing!!?? I mean the whole thing is just too good to be true. I mean some rogue laboratory somewhere in the world would have tried tried to reproduce it in humans already. The applications for this technology are too vast to just be like "oh well, we're only allowed to test on mice so well, we don't have funding or approval, let's just twiddle our thumbs" --this is the reason I'm skeptical. I mean as you guys seem to mention, this hydrogel isn't that complex a substance. I'll offer myself up as a guinea pig right now. Tell me where to get it or how to make it and I'll burn myself with a cigarette or something and tell you guys if it worked or not!
@rez77 So so true what you say. Damn it
hey, not to take the topic off of "hydrogel" but the one place I actually saw "some" significant improvement was by this doc david rahimi(sic?) --there's a user here called DRAGZ, search his thread and tell me what you think. Like he's one a like a thousand of the users who actually seem to have obtained, I dunno, maybe like 30-40 percent improvement from his treatment. It was a combo subcsion, laser thing. Who knows?
Do you believe that the hydrogel will regenerate perfect textures? That is the only important thing, everything else is irrelevant. And I hope that scar free healing really means scar free healing and not scarless healing and that complete regeneration really means complete regeneration and not incomplete regeneration! And do you believe that if they found a way to somehow further increase hydrogel's pore size then maybe the reepithelization process would be further accelerated? And what do you think about induced pluripotent stem cells? It is the fact that it is now possible to convert fibroblast cells into any other type of cells, you've mentioned that decorin at 200nm can stop over proliferation of fibroblasts and thus achieving scar free healing.
Do I believe? That would convey an opinion. Its a fact it got eaten rapidly, created cells and got perfect textures (it got complete regeneration, full structural appendages). The paper has shown complete regeneration. And, again, if there was imperfect tissues there would be 'incomplete regeneration', which would involve scar blocking off the complete regeneration giving imperfect texture. In the paper the only thing that got incomplete regeneration was the control; the gel got complete regeneration with no scar blocking off the regeneration. If it stated anything with incomplete regeneration Id ignore it, or if it had no results and theorised something, I personally would not give it attention.
And do I believe with regards to a bigger pore size... I think we can say they must have spent a long time discussing, optimizing and retesting the gel and the control and have optimized the loose hydrogel and have then proven it digests the fastest in this paper... However, with regards to the pore size, going on the paper the 8020 had a bigger pore size than the 6040 and way bigger than the control and how the 8020, with a bigger pore size, degraded fastest I can see the clear link you are seeing, that I also share btw, between the pore size of the control and the hydrogel. But there is also one more strong variable and that variable could just be a digestable component??? Like something edible combined with the gel pore size for the digestion??? I mean most organisms digest. But looking at the scale of the pore size there looks like some logic here with a bigger pore size could help it soak and digest more. In the paper there looks like a link here between pore size , and digestion. That imo is a good point. However my logical belief here is it is an edible content alongside the pore size that allowed speedy infiltration and digestion by the whiteblood cells (most organisms eat carbs when they access them). It is not just the porosity. I bet someone could engineer some piece of metal with porosity, but the white blood cells would not eat the metal.
Fact: hydrogel only been tested on mice, so that work in humans just an opinion, nothing more than that, it's like saying hydrogel work in all people, when perhaps hydrogel not do at all, it should be remembered there are different types of scarring for different kinds of people and different types of diseases that affect the same.usted simply is giving an opinion in the future. you just think.
I hope you're right path, it just an opinion
nothing more, just an opinion
There is 'one' type of scarring: an over production of collagen that blocks off regeneration. There is no other type of scarring.
It is a scaffold that degrades via the mammals whiteblood cells eating it, thats it; just like the state of the art control which also behaved typically, and scarred; and scarred exactly like it does in all mammals. Scaffolds do not discriminate, they just get eaten by the whitebloodcells, they do not come out of the wrapping and say, oh I dont like chicken today. Unless it had a brain, it would be never react any differently just like anything digested.
yes, but not so simple. you miss things. for example if you study keloid scarring, hypertrophic scarring and healing problems in people with diabetes and other diseases, will know that it is not just a 'overproduction of collagen', in fact it is easier to stop collagen, if you stop the collagen with decorin (or with an anti cancer droug I can tell as indeed I did), you can get just a hole in your skin and nothing else, not grow anything there, just there will be a hole.
is not 'white or black', you should have a great orchestra, not just stop the collagen (at the right time), should also tell other agencies should grow (like blood vessels) cells, sebaceous glands, etc.. I repeat, you should research and read thoroughly as is the healing, I recommend you read early hypertrophic scarring and keloid, and after that read, healing in diabetics and other diseases, you probably believe me it may have some imbalance this type and perhaps not know. generally all have some sort to some extent, and therefore I say that hydrogel not work at all in the same way.
I always say that the best evidence is that of the 'tattoos' to see how a person heals at (superfitial medium) surface is to see your tattoos (if you have them of course), if you see some people have tattoos on their perfect skin ... as is as if they had a tattoo done and there's his tattoo. however others have tattoos and have skin as crushed or slightly scarred ... that is the best test to see the level of scarring or tumor of the test persons tattoo, but a tattoo is clearly equivalent to a surface burn grade 1 or 2 I think ... only as a reference (superficial medium heal) surface. why I say that hydrogel work in humans is only opinion.
Do you believe that the hydrogel will regenerate perfect textures? That is the only important thing, everything else is irrelevant. And I hope that scar free healing really means scar free healing and not scarless healing and that complete regeneration really means complete regeneration and not incomplete regeneration! And do you believe that if they found a way to somehow further increase hydrogel's pore size then maybe the reepithelization process would be further accelerated? And what do you think about induced pluripotent stem cells? It is the fact that it is now possible to convert fibroblast cells into any other type of cells, you've mentioned that decorin at 200nm can stop over proliferation of fibroblasts and thus achieving scar free healing.
Do I believe? That would convey an opinion. Its a fact it got eaten rapidly, created cells and got perfect textures (it got complete regeneration, full structural appendages). The paper has shown complete regeneration. And, again, if there was imperfect tissues there would be 'incomplete regeneration', which would involve scar blocking off the complete regeneration giving imperfect texture. In the paper the only thing that got incomplete regeneration was the control; the gel got complete regeneration with no scar blocking off the regeneration. If it stated anything with incomplete regeneration Id ignore it, or if it had no results and theorised something, I personally would not give it attention.
And do I believe with regards to a bigger pore size... I think we can say they must have spent a long time discussing, optimizing and retesting the gel and the control and have optimized the loose hydrogel and have then proven it digests the fastest in this paper... However, with regards to the pore size, going on the paper the 8020 had a bigger pore size than the 6040 and way bigger than the control and how the 8020, with a bigger pore size, degraded fastest I can see the clear link you are seeing, that I also share btw, between the pore size of the control and the hydrogel. But there is also one more strong variable and that variable could just be a digestable component??? Like something edible combined with the gel pore size for the digestion??? I mean most organisms digest. But looking at the scale of the pore size there looks like some logic here with a bigger pore size could help it soak and digest more. In the paper there looks like a link here between pore size , and digestion. That imo is a good point. However my logical belief here is it is an edible content alongside the pore size that allowed speedy infiltration and digestion by the whiteblood cells (most organisms eat carbs when they access them). It is not just the porosity. I bet someone could engineer some piece of metal with porosity, but the white blood cells would not eat the metal.
Fact: hydrogel only been tested on mice, so that work in humans just an opinion, nothing more than that, it's like saying hydrogel work in all people, when perhaps hydrogel not do at all, it should be remembered there are different types of scarring for different kinds of people and different types of diseases that affect the same.usted simply is giving an opinion in the future. you just think.
I hope you're right path, it just an opinion
nothing more, just an opinion
There is 'one' type of scarring: an over production of collagen that blocks off regeneration. There is no other type of scarring.
It is a scaffold that degrades via the mammals whiteblood cells eating it, thats it; just like the state of the art control which also behaved typically, and scarred; and scarred exactly like it does in all mammals. Scaffolds do not discriminate, they just get eaten by the whitebloodcells, they do not come out of the wrapping and say, oh I dont like chicken today. Unless it had a brain, it would be never react any differently just like anything digested.
yes, but not so simple. you miss things. for example if you study keloid scarring, hypertrophic scarring and healing problems in people with diabetes and other diseases, will know that it is not just a 'overproduction of collagen', in fact it is easier to stop collagen, if you stop the collagen with decorin (or with an anti cancer droug I can tell as indeed I did), you can get just a hole in your skin and nothing else, not grow anything there, just there will be a hole.
is not 'white or black', you should have a great orchestra, not just stop the collagen (at the right time), should also tell other agencies should grow (like blood vessels) cells, sebaceous glands, etc.. I repeat, you should research and read thoroughly as is the healing, I recommend you read early hypertrophic scarring and keloid, and after that read, healing in diabetics and other diseases, you probably believe me it may have some imbalance this type and perhaps not know. generally all have some sort to some extent, and therefore I say that hydrogel not work at all in the same way.
I always say that the best evidence is that of the 'tattoos' to see how a person heals at (superfitial medium) surface is to see your tattoos (if you have them of course), if you see some people have tattoos on their perfect skin ... as is as if they had a tattoo done and there's his tattoo. however others have tattoos and have skin as crushed or slightly scarred ... that is the best test to see the level of scarring or tumor of the test persons tattoo, but a tattoo is clearly equivalent to a surface burn grade 1 or 2 I think ... only as a reference (superficial medium heal) surface. why I say that hydrogel work in humans is only opinion.
Malditon, I've not missed anything at all. I'm an English speaker who actually attempts to read English documents, and here you are telling me or other English speakers who also attempt to read English documents, to read English documents you've perfectly translated, we have also no doubt read, when, no offence, you cannot translate English well... I would be told were to go in no uncertain terms, if I had broken Spanish and then went onto a Spanish website and translated Spanish documents and attempted to baby feed other Spanish speaking posters platitudes I had translated with my broken Spanish. And please will you stop 'telling me' to read something I have no doubt read, were at the same time doing so as if you have some authority or someone else above you has some authority over us all. Overly appealing to authority is not only fallacious but offensive, though I'm certain you were not deliberate here. Anyway, a scar, is an over production of collagen coming from 'incomplete regeneration..' Regarding people with end stage diabetes, a lot are very, very ill and have compromised immune systems and cant heal with incomplete regeneration never mind complete regeneration; the necrosis that results here from a lack of healing can even bring limb amputations. <<< Btw this has nothing to do with the previous post. Regarding a keloid, a keloid is just a hypertrophic scar that has accumulated more collagen than needed over many more months after injury, where someone has added a subjective definition (there is an argument as to when does a hypertrophic scar get classes as a keloid for instance), again it is an over production of collagen that blocks of regeneration.
No updates from Harmon everyone.
Still waiting for his lawyer to meet with the JHU officials.
@chuckstonchew Did you speak with him and he's still waiting? or you assume it hasnt happened because he hasnt got back to you yet?
What exactly is his personal lawyer meeting with JHU about? The patent is in 3 names (none of which were his if i remember correctly) what is the exact outcome he is trying to achieve?
Thanks just after some clarification 
No updates from Harmon everyone.
Still waiting for his lawyer to meet with the JHU officials.
@chuckstonchew Did you speak with him and he's still waiting? or you assume it hasnt happened because he hasnt got back to you yet?
What exactly is his personal lawyer meeting with JHU about? The patent is in 3 names (none of which were his if i remember correctly) what is the exact outcome he is trying to achieve?
Thanks just after some clarification
He is one of the inventor ..
check it here
http://www.sumobrain.com/patents/wipo/Skin-hair-regeneration-using-polysaccharide/WO2012158312A2.pdf
No updates from Harmon everyone.
Still waiting for his lawyer to meet with the JHU officials.
@chuckstonchew Did you speak with him and he's still waiting? or you assume it hasnt happened because he hasnt got back to you yet?
What exactly is his personal lawyer meeting with JHU about? The patent is in 3 names (none of which were his if i remember correctly) what is the exact outcome he is trying to achieve?
Thanks just after some clarification
He is one of the inventor ..
check it here
http://www.sumobrain.com/patents/wipo/Skin-hair-regeneration-using-polysaccharide/WO2012158312A2.pdf
ok! ive never seen that one
the one i initially tracked down only has 3 names on it and none his. wonder why?
so then is he meeting with lawyers to find a way to avoid issues with Dr Sun? Im just unclear on that part of it
No updates from Harmon everyone.
Still waiting for his lawyer to meet with the JHU officials.
@chuckstonchew Did you speak with him and he's still waiting? or you assume it hasnt happened because he hasnt got back to you yet?
What exactly is his personal lawyer meeting with JHU about? The patent is in 3 names (none of which were his if i remember correctly) what is the exact outcome he is trying to achieve?
Thanks just after some clarification
He is one of the inventor ..
check it here
http://www.sumobrain.com/patents/wipo/Skin-hair-regeneration-using-polysaccharide/WO2012158312A2.pdf
ok! ive never seen that one
the one i initially tracked down only has 3 names on it and none his. wonder why?
so then is he meeting with lawyers to find a way to avoid issues with Dr Sun? Im just unclear on that part of it
Not sure about issues, but the link you provided is not the skin regeneration patent. It looks it was applied before the skin regeneration patent...
No updates from Harmon everyone.
Still waiting for his lawyer to meet with the JHU officials.
@chuckstonchew Did you speak with him and he's still waiting? or you assume it hasnt happened because he hasnt got back to you yet?
What exactly is his personal lawyer meeting with JHU about? The patent is in 3 names (none of which were his if i remember correctly) what is the exact outcome he is trying to achieve?
Thanks just after some clarification
He is one of the inventor ..
check it here
http://www.sumobrain.com/patents/wipo/Skin-hair-regeneration-using-polysaccharide/WO2012158312A2.pdf
ok! ive never seen that one
the one i initially tracked down only has 3 names on it and none his. wonder why?
so then is he meeting with lawyers to find a way to avoid issues with Dr Sun? Im just unclear on that part of it
Not sure about issues, but the link you provided is not the skin regeneration patent. It looks it was applied before the skin regeneration patent...
oh whoops i remember finding a whole heap that they applied for, must have bookmarked the wrong one.
so i guess then the issue is how to go ahead without Dr sun? Is that right? @chuckstonchew
I would think this sort of think could happen quite often
Heres some info from the John Hopkins Technology Transfer department:
"Johns Hopkins Technology Transfers mission is to:
Protect the intellectual property of Johns Hopkins faculty and to commercialize these inventions for the public good.
Bring the benefits of discovery to the world."
http://techtransfer.jhu.edu/about_us/
Heres a doc on their IP policy:
http://techtransfer.jhu.edu/documents/IP_Policies.pdf
"JHTT acts as the "Business Concierge" for industry and entrepreneurs wishing to do business with Johns Hopkins University. Our core activities consist of facilitating interactions and collaborations with the University, licensing our intellectual property, and promoting the University's research expertise, core facilities and related assets."
and then a link to the technology database where i found the hydrogel (note: minimised scarring) and the contact person should we wish to do business with this particular technology in the long list. Or should we choose something else? lol
uhm i'm not a scientist, but if I was one of the scientists, I would just pull a Bruce Banner, and cut myself, like on my leg or somewhere and slather some hydrogel over it and see if produced scarless healing!!?? I mean the whole thing is just too good to be true. I mean some rogue laboratory somewhere in the world would have tried tried to reproduce it in humans already. The applications for this technology are too vast to just be like "oh well, we're only allowed to test on mice so well, we don't have funding or approval, let's just twiddle our thumbs" --this is the reason I'm skeptical. I mean as you guys seem to mention, this hydrogel isn't that complex a substance. I'll offer myself up as a guinea pig right now. Tell me where to get it or how to make it and I'll burn myself with a cigarette or something and tell you guys if it worked or not!
@rez77 So so true what you say. Damn it
hey, not to take the topic off of "hydrogel" but the one place I actually saw "some" significant improvement was by this doc david rahimi(sic?) --there's a user here called DRAGZ, search his thread and tell me what you think. Like he's one a like a thousand of the users who actually seem to have obtained, I dunno, maybe like 30-40 percent improvement from his treatment. It was a combo subcsion, laser thing. Who knows?
@rez77 havent been able to find that user, but usually accessing from mobile, could be why. i have a feeling that any acne specific treatment wouldnt be good enough for what i need. Narrow yet long birthmark. Hydrogel either used directly after excision or on a resulting surgical scar "would" be ideal
@wentworthwhile - I spoke to him and that is what he said.
He has no issues with Dr. Sun. I think he and Dr. Sun will still work together through the small business he has formed. He said that with the lawyer and the JHU officials meeting, he hopes to smooth out the process with Johns Hopkins. As Sun stated a while back, I think Johns Hopkins in some way owns rights to the hydrogel... Since they're now pursuing a small business, this would eliminate Johns Hopkins involvement. This is what they're discussing with the officials I presume and this is what needs smoothed out.
@wentworthwhile - I spoke to him and that is what he said.
He has no issues with Dr. Sun. I think he and Dr. Sun will still work together through the small business he has formed. He said that with the lawyer and the JHU officials meeting, he hopes to smooth out the process with Johns Hopkins. As Sun stated a while back, I think Johns Hopkins in some way owns rights to the hydrogel... Since they're now pursuing a small business, this would eliminate Johns Hopkins involvement. This is what they're discussing with the officials I presume and this is what needs smoothed out.
oh well in that case it seems there are no IP issues?
Anthony Antala (the man who led the team that developed the first lab-grown organ, a bladder that was implanted into a human for the first time) mentions that our normal skin regenerates every 2 weeks (from 2:48 to 3:48):
http://www.ted.com/talks/anthony_atala_growing_organs_engineering_tissue.html
I don't know what does it exactly mean, Seabs and others?
Anthony Antala (the man who led the team that developed the first lab-grown organ, a bladder that was implanted into a human for the first time) mentions that our normal skin regenerates every 2 weeks (from 2:48 to 3:48):
http://www.ted.com/talks/anthony_atala_growing_organs_engineering_tissue.html
I don't know what does it exactly mean, Seabs and others?
From what I can see in the context of the presentation, he means it takes two weeks for full skin tissue turnover and renewal after shedding. The 100% of the skin cells you have now is completely different to the 100% of the skin you had two weeks ago. Over time Ive also read and heard others say, this takes 2 to 3 weeks. To get context here you can also see just prior he also mentions ten years for your bones to turn over and renew, Ive read articles seen others say 8 to 10 years for bone turn over.
So when is this gel going to be tested on humans, people? How likely is it that that will happen this year?
nothing will happen...
Check my gallery it shows the full extent of my scars and then my scars after Dermaflage check it out message me for questions
Are you being paid by Dermaflage or something? As this is the second thread you've invaded with your Dermaflage experience. Get your own thread, dude! O _ o
So when is this gel going to be tested on humans, people? How likely is it that that will happen this year?
nothing will happen...
Ok, then I can stop checking this thread then. Bye bye. 
No, seriously, can anyone say how likely it is that human testing will start soon?
Check my gallery it shows the full extent of my scars and then my scars after Dermaflage check it out message me for questions
Are you being paid by Dermaflage or something? As this is the second thread you've invaded with your Dermaflage experience. Get your own thread, dude! O _ o
>
So when is this gel going to be tested on humans, people? How likely is it that that will happen this year?
nothing will happen...
Ok, then I can stop checking this thread then. Bye bye.
No, seriously, can anyone say how likely it is that human testing will start soon?
Maybe Dr harmon will know?
Maybe Dr harmon will know?
It's the manner in which a lot of people post that makes me a tad hesitant to read through the last few pages trying to decipher everything in an effort to draw any conclusions from it all. Don't get me wrong, I'm not speaking negatively about anyone but sometimes the posting isn't very neat. 
Typos and chaotic posts... Or dense paragraphs without proper punctuation... I figured I'd just ask a clear question so that someone can give me clear answer.
I keep keeping an eye on this thread and stuff does happen. In the sense that this thing is being pushed forward. But if it's going to take a year before we see the first testing in humans than I might as well check back in a year, you know?
I also know that if it is found out that it works on people it might become available very soon after that. But like I said, if the testing on people doesn't start until after a year...
How likely is it that we will actually be seeing tests this year? Because it seems like a lot of (frustrating) hassle that is going to take aeons to take care of still needs to be taken care of before testing on people can even begin after which we might even get disappointed as we might find out that it doesn't work on people?
Maybe Dr harmon will know?
It's the manner in which a lot of people post that makes me a tad hesitant to read through the last few pages trying to decipher everything in an effort to draw any conclusions from it all. Don't get me wrong, I'm not speaking negatively about anyone but sometimes the posting isn't very neat.
I keep keeping an eye on this thread and stuff does happen. In the sense that this thing is being pushed forward. But if it's going to take a year before we see the first testing in humans than I might as well check back in a year, you know?
I also know that if it is found out that it works on people it might become available very soon after that. But like I said, if the testing on people doesn't start until after a year...
How likely is it that we will actually be seeing tests this year? Because it seems like a lot of (frustrating) hassle that is going to take aeons to take care of still needs to be taken care of before testing on people can even begin after which we might even get disappointed as we might find out that it doesn't work on people?
I know what your saying. Its draining to pin your hopes on this with the possibility of a dead end. The thought is actually quite scary to me too.
I wish we could somehow get regular/scheduled updated from Harmon. Not that he is required to do anything for us personally. He has his own priorities. But it would be good for us and it would probably give a real running head start as far as having a following for when/if crowd funding starts.
@chuckstonchew Maybe you could mention this to him. Getting scheduled regular updates. I think it would make a lot of people feel better and get more people interested. Just an idea.