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please give your precious words on my topic friends,@seabs especially you since your say might mean alot with the kind of knowledge you possess about the matter at hand , http://www.acne.org/messageboard/index.php/topic/324167-how-to-avoid-scars-from-forming/
If someone wants to debate as believed to improve healing in the photos above may say.
I see a reduction in fibrosis but not edema.
I will not say which method was applied in order to avoid controversy, but at least it is in humans and not rats.
Topriamate controversial??? Who is discussing topiramate?
Evaluation of open-label topiramate for scar therapy
Nathan A Shapira MD PhD, Mary Lessig BS, Tanya K Murphy MD, April M Annis JD BS, and Marty Lazoritz MD
http://dermatology-s10.cdlib.org/95/original/scars/shapira.html
please give your precious words on my topic friends,@seabs especially you since your say might mean alot with the kind of knowledge you possess about the matter at hand , http://www.acne.org/...s-from-forming/
Hi Jaysjay most of what you say has factual basis, e.g. fibroblasts proliferating. But I havent researched your information to comment myself...
If someone wants to debate as believed to improve healing in the photos above may say.
I see a reduction in fibrosis but not edema.
I will not say which method was applied in order to avoid controversy, but at least it is in humans and not rats.
Toprimate controversial??? Who is discussing toprimate?
As we discussed about topiramate while here and do not know if you remember several people saying we have contradicted that is useless, in fact as colonel users said to try and not work on it. I would like to discuss some veterans on those pictures you see if you see wear collagen fibrosis compared to normal skin but I want the users to discuss, I see a lot of wear in the forum. by the way the email does not work Shapira. several days ago I sent an email to that box topiramate Request for an experiment and I bounced. a pity that there are no documented more experiments with this drug. there is only two reports of those years ago. really a waste.
If someone wants to debate as believed to improve healing in the photos above may say.
I see a reduction in fibrosis but not edema.
I will not say which method was applied in order to avoid controversy, but at least it is in humans and not rats.
Toprimate controversial??? Who is discussing toprimate?
As we discussed about topiramate while here and do not know if you remember several people saying we have contradicted that is useless, in fact as colonel users said to try and not work on it. I would like to discuss some veterans on those pictures you see if you see wear collagen fibrosis compared to normal skin but I want the users to discuss, I see a lot of wear in the forum. by the way the email does not work Shapira. several days ago I sent an email to that box topiramate Request for an experiment and I bounced. a pity that there are no documented more experiments with this drug. there is only two reports of those years ago. really a waste.
Why did you not just say toprimate so we could see what controversy you were talking about? Also, I dont think I have ever discussed this in any detail (others may have though) on this forum untl you brought it up recently...
If someone wants to debate as believed to improve healing in the photos above may say.
I see a reduction in fibrosis but not edema.
I will not say which method was applied in order to avoid controversy, but at least it is in humans and not rats.
Toprimate controversial??? Who is discussing toprimate?
As we discussed about topiramate while here and do not know if you remember several people saying we have contradicted that is useless, in fact as colonel users said to try and not work on it. I would like to discuss some veterans on those pictures you see if you see wear collagen fibrosis compared to normal skin but I want the users to discuss, I see a lot of wear in the forum. by the way the email does not work Shapira. several days ago I sent an email to that box topiramate Request for an experiment and I bounced. a pity that there are no documented more experiments with this drug. there is only two reports of those years ago. really a waste.
Why did you not just say toprimate so we could see what controversy you were talking about? Also, I dont think I have ever discussed this, on this forum untl you brought it up recently...
By the fact that you should know that there are many young people entering the forum ... it is sold in pharmacies. This medication is dangerous for certain people or for anyone, and we must remember that to buy should go see the doctor and get prescription, or can have serious consequences.
Is an antiepileptic drug that affects the brain and modifying speech slow side effect among other side effects.
[email protected] comment again if you find anything related.
If someone wants to debate as believed to improve healing in the photos above may say.
I see a reduction in fibrosis but not edema.
I will not say which method was applied in order to avoid controversy, but at least it is in humans and not rats.
Toprimate controversial??? Who is discussing toprimate?
As we discussed about topiramate while here and do not know if you remember several people saying we have contradicted that is useless, in fact as colonel users said to try and not work on it. I would like to discuss some veterans on those pictures you see if you see wear collagen fibrosis compared to normal skin but I want the users to discuss, I see a lot of wear in the forum. by the way the email does not work Shapira. several days ago I sent an email to that box topiramate Request for an experiment and I bounced. a pity that there are no documented more experiments with this drug. there is only two reports of those years ago. really a waste.
Why did you not just say toprimate so we could see what controversy you were talking about? Also, I dont think I have ever discussed this, on this forum untl you brought it up recently...
By the fact that you should know that there are many young people entering the forum ... it is sold in pharmacies. This medication is dangerous for certain people or for anyone, and we must remember that to buy should go see the doctor and get prescription, or can have serious consequences.
Is an antiepileptic drug that affects the brain and modifying speech slow side effect among other side effects.
Ok, but I did not know what you were talking about at first. Your post was vague.
Ok, but I did not know what you were talking about at first. Your post was vague.
You're right, I did too precaution. but going to the topic, how do you think that affects fibrosis? reducing it? or exchanging it for the type of scar collagen to the skin collagen type normal?
Ok, but I did not know what you were talking about at first. Your post was vague.
You're right, I did too precaution. but going to the topic, how do you think that affects fibrosis? reducing it? or exchanging it for the type of scar collagen to the skin collagen type normal?
I personally would not use it on my scarring. However it may improve scarring, but not eliminate it, looking at the link.
another thing on scar treatment: apparently an analgesic, they changed a molecule and reduces wound healing.
seabs, not know what the limit reduction, the experiment was in a given time
Would be good to find someone with scars and take the drug for epilepsy along for some time to see if your scars are much improved.
The only thing is that I do not think that works for example in diabetics.
Thought this might interest some of you:
It's about the army's funding of medical research: it says that the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency has a 2 billion a year budget - and what I thought was interesting is the projects they are researching and taking seriously - like trying to find ways to make people run like Olympic athletes, a way to stop people needing sleep within every 24 hour period - and interestingly - a way to control the metabolic switch - which could wipe out obesity!
Anyhow - it just struck me how open they are to take new ideas seriously - so hopefully at this moment somewhere in an x-files like building a document with the words 'hydrogel' is sitting - with 'funding approved' stamped on it's front
Anyway - all will be revealed next year!!
Merry Christmas all! and a Happy New Year! 
Thought this might interest some of you:
http://www.hindustan...le1-912876.aspx
It's about the army's funding of medical research: it says that the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency has a 2 billion a year budget - and what I thought was interesting is the projects they are researching and taking seriously - like trying to find ways to make people run like Olympic athletes, a way to stop people needing sleep within every 24 hour period - and interestingly - a way to control the metabolic switch - which could wipe out obesity!
Anyhow - it just struck me how open they are to take new ideas seriously - so hopefully at this moment somewhere in an x-files like building a document with the words 'hydrogel' is sitting - with 'funding approved' stamped on it's front
Anyway - all will be revealed next year!!
Merry Christmas all! and a Happy New Year!
+100
This needs funding
[5] regenerative medicine as a field is exploding is getting massive results already - just a quick google search of 'scientists regrow' will yield a list of things grown in the lab - and implanted in humans - I'm sure we've all read about the regrown windpipe - and spray-on skin to name just two - and with every major university in the world opening a regenerative medicine department there is only more to come!
Our problem - ie scarring - may be wrong - but this is the right time to have it!!
The days of the scar are numbered!
thanks @vladislav - it' true! if it was 1982 we'd definitely be stuck with scars for life - at least this generation has a good chance for change!
Here is something interesting, for more optimism for the New Year, it is something about regenerative medicine trends in general:
http://www.bis.gov.u...ve-medicine.pdf
On page 12 and page 13 you can find data about numbers of regenerative medicine related publications and papers by different countries from 2005 to 2009. And on page 48 you can find the same data about numbers of stem cells related papers.
So the trend is that the number of regenerative medicine related papers is increasing exponentially rather than linearly, the number is doubling every 5-6 years in developed countries like the US, UK, Canada, Germany,... while in developing countries like China the same number is doubling every 2-3 years! 
And this is interesting:
http://iv.iiarjourna...23.figures-only
The number of publications in every single year from 1984 to the end of 2009.
So back in 1982 the number of regenerative medicine related papers was close to 0, now in 2012 the same number is measured in thousands and it is growing every year! And it is likely that the number will continue to grow exponentially in the future. 
So as time goes on things are actually accelerating, things are happening faster and faster! And I estimate that now 1 year of research in regenerative medicine is equal to 5 years of research back in the 1990s.
And I can see that some of you are waiting for a cure for scars for a very long time, since the early 2000s or even since the 1990s, I can see that some of you are very disappointed and some of you said that there will be no cure for scars in the next 20 or 30 years because you think advancement in the regenerative medicine has a linear trend, after reading this maybe you will revise your pessimistic assumptions.
And it is very important for us to observe that China was nothing in regenerative medicine 10 years ago, now China is one of the major players, and it is expected that China will overtake the position of the United States as a leader in the field of regenerative medicine and stem cells research in the foreseeable future.
This chart is interesting too:
http://www.sinostemc...tem-cells-rise/
So it is important for us to understand that regenerative medicine, tissue engineering and stem cells research efforts are accelerating as the time goes on in all major countries, especially in China.
]Key Factors For China™s Rise As A Stem Cell Powerhouse
The Chinese government has rapidly built up its scientific capacity in regenerative medicine, including stem cells, tissue engineering, and gene therapy.
China™s success in this field is increasingly hard to deny”they are now the 5th largest publisher of peer-reviewed papers on stem cells research in the international scientific literature, shooting from 37 publications in 2000 up to 1,116 in 2008.Although still short of the United States™s 6,008 stem cell publications in 2008, China™s publication levels nearly match those of the United Kingdom, Japan, and Germany.
A study carried out by the McLaughlin-Rotman Center for Global Health analyzes how capacity in regenerative medicine was built in China to identify the key factors contributing to China™s success to the emerging biotechnologies.
We think this study accurately reflects the current strengths and challenges of the China stem cell community and found it worthy to publish its summarized version. The Chinese government employed four major strategies to elevate China to a significant contributor to stem cell therapy and research.
People
The government put major emphasis on recruiting researchers with a special strategy to build regenerative medicine sector. China made recruiting Chinese researchers back to the country a specific strategy within their 11th Five Year Plan for 2006-2010, indicating that engaging œinternationally published returnees is of primary importance to the development of the science sector. In addition to this factor, there is a younger home-grown generation of home-grown scientists from among China™s 400,000 annual graduates in science and medicine.
Financing
The Ministry of Science and Technology has made up to $293 million available for stem cell research alone between 2006-2010, with an additional $20 million per year coming from the Chinese Academy of Science. These funds have created top-notch research and animal testing facilities and extensive project grants that allow researchers to carry their ideas forward.
Permissive regulations for stem cell research
Stem cell policy and regulations in China are more permissive than in the United States, and are similar in nature to what is allowed in the UK.
Focused Research Objectives
Chinese scientists strongly focused their research objectives towards generating therapeutic applications. Moreover, universities and hospitals have the tight relationships needed to understand patient needs and translate research from lab to clinic.
Overcoming a bad reputation
International critics of stem cell research in China have often erroneously lumped together stem cell research with private stem cell clinics offering unproven therapies. Top-quality research on regenerative medicine in China is mostly produced at academic institutions, national research centers, and by few small firms. Stem cell centers offering unproven therapies, on the other hand, do not publish in international scientific journals and are criticized by many Chinese researchers for offering treatments ahead of their time and for hurting the credibility of legitimate Chinese stem cell research.
In May of 2009, the Ministry of Health in China announced new regulations for the clinical application of stem cell therapies. These rules will require stem cell centers to provide evidence of the safety and efficacy of the therapies they offer and may potentially help the Chinese stem cell scene overcome the international criticism.
In conclusion while China has become a significant contributor and prolific publisher in regenerative medicine, its role in the field is not well understood. China has been able to catapult itself into the forefront of regenerative medicine but needs to address current regulatory challenges in order to secure its position in this emerging field.
This chart is interesting too:
http://www.sinostemc...tem-cells-rise/
So it is important for us to understand that regenerative medicine, tissue engineering and stem cells research efforts are accelerating as the time goes on in all major countries, especially in China.
]Key Factors For China™s Rise As A Stem Cell Powerhouse
The Chinese government has rapidly built up its scientific capacity in regenerative medicine, including stem cells, tissue engineering, and gene therapy.
China™s success in this field is increasingly hard to deny”they are now the 5th largest publisher of peer-reviewed papers on stem cells research in the international scientific literature, shooting from 37 publications in 2000 up to 1,116 in 2008.Although still short of the United States™s 6,008 stem cell publications in 2008, China™s publication levels nearly match those of the United Kingdom, Japan, and Germany.
A study carried out by the McLaughlin-Rotman Center for Global Health analyzes how capacity in regenerative medicine was built in China to identify the key factors contributing to China™s success to the emerging biotechnologies.
We think this study accurately reflects the current strengths and challenges of the China stem cell community and found it worthy to publish its summarized version. The Chinese government employed four major strategies to elevate China to a significant contributor to stem cell therapy and research.
People
The government put major emphasis on recruiting researchers with a special strategy to build regenerative medicine sector. China made recruiting Chinese researchers back to the country a specific strategy within their 11th Five Year Plan for 2006-2010, indicating that engaging œinternationally published returnees is of primary importance to the development of the science sector. In addition to this factor, there is a younger home-grown generation of home-grown scientists from among China™s 400,000 annual graduates in science and medicine.
Financing
The Ministry of Science and Technology has made up to $293 million available for stem cell research alone between 2006-2010, with an additional $20 million per year coming from the Chinese Academy of Science. These funds have created top-notch research and animal testing facilities and extensive project grants that allow researchers to carry their ideas forward.
Permissive regulations for stem cell research
Stem cell policy and regulations in China are more permissive than in the United States, and are similar in nature to what is allowed in the UK.
Focused Research Objectives
Chinese scientists strongly focused their research objectives towards generating therapeutic applications. Moreover, universities and hospitals have the tight relationships needed to understand patient needs and translate research from lab to clinic.
Overcoming a bad reputation
International critics of stem cell research in China have often erroneously lumped together stem cell research with private stem cell clinics offering unproven therapies. Top-quality research on regenerative medicine in China is mostly produced at academic institutions, national research centers, and by few small firms. Stem cell centers offering unproven therapies, on the other hand, do not publish in international scientific journals and are criticized by many Chinese researchers for offering treatments ahead of their time and for hurting the credibility of legitimate Chinese stem cell research.
In May of 2009, the Ministry of Health in China announced new regulations for the clinical application of stem cell therapies. These rules will require stem cell centers to provide evidence of the safety and efficacy of the therapies they offer and may potentially help the Chinese stem cell scene overcome the international criticism.
In conclusion while China has become a significant contributor and prolific publisher in regenerative medicine, its role in the field is not well understood. China has been able to catapult itself into the forefront of regenerative medicine but needs to address current regulatory challenges in order to secure its position in this emerging field.
agree
Malditon, here are the facts. it degraded in under 7 days, it got "complete regeneration," with no scarring, fact, on the other hand the control got incomplete regeneration (scarring). And at the 3week mark the hydrogel treated wounds had appendages growing the control did not.
Malditon, here are the facts. it degraded in under 7 days, it got "complete regeneration," with no scarring, fact, on the other hand the control got incomplete regeneration (scarring). And at the 3week mark the hydrogel treated wounds had appendages growing the control did not.
its a scam
Malditon, here are the facts. it degraded in under 7 days, it got "complete regeneration," with no scarring, fact, on the other hand the control got incomplete regeneration (scarring). And at the 3week mark the hydrogel treated wounds had appendages growing the control did not.
its a scam
It is impossible for it to be a scam, it has a permanent 'factual basis,' that can be tested, it is not elusive, it has no get out clause, it is not built on solely one theory promoted by an authority who has no factual basis..
it is a 'peer reviewed paper' that proved 'complete regeneration' after rapid digestion. Not only that but there is nothing weaseling about it in any way. It is not elusive, as in a future sounding statement that promises you something if you follow this step or trust in that step.. It is just facts.<<< It is easily replicated (scams are nonsense that cant be replicated) by those with an enquiring mind, , it could be tested by anyone if they want to test it. There are no get out clauses In fact this is one of a few things that is definately not a scam, its factual basis makes it stand out.
Scams are full of future promises, they have no 'factual basis,' no foundation. Scams have promises and theories that either fail or cant be tested or cant be tested for years, they rely on distractions. Scams play on the human psychology of the dream of a better future. example if you 'follow this step, you'll get onto the next.' Scams are elusive. Scams use and over emphasis authority to cover for the fact they have no factual basis, scams use vague slogans.