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How could anyone NOT want to take this further
The way I see it, the only way they could not want to take it further is if they place politics above the well-being of those in need.
And not to be pessimistic or a conspiracist or anything, but I think this happens more than we'd like it to.
i just hope those in charge are more benevolent and empathetic than I give them credit for...
@chuckstonchew - agreed! it's a bit sad when you grow up and learn that while there are lots of great and good and productive people in the world everyone is not exactly Clark Kent... what makes this ok for me if the army did reject it though [although, I still think there's a good chance they'll go ahead with it] is that I know that John Hopkins will keep trying to take the product to market - remember that the scientists involved have said in a magazine interview that they intend to do this - and that they said that the people at JH don't intend to waste this discovery as money making opportunity like they've done with other discoveries in the past - ie. they feel they can make a profit here - which they should! - and as cynical as it sounds - we all know what a great motivation the potential for a big profit can be!
I don't understand, by now dr Harmon should have a positive or negative response from the DoD? Is he supposed to get a positive or negative response by now but he didn't get any response or what? For how long we will wait for their response?
Yep, he still hasn't gotten any response. He doesn't know when he'll receive one. In September he told me he expected a yes or no response by November. But as of yesterday, I spoke to him and he said he still had not gotten one. Who knows how long it will be before they respond... As we know, taking excessively/unnecessarily long seems to be their strong suit.
I wish they would just bring their research overseas or something. This is absurd. They discovered it in 2011 and here were are approaching 2013 and still absolutely nothing.
No money! DR Gerecht is moving forward with being in touch with business though
I don't understand, by now dr Harmon should have a positive or negative response from the DoD? Is he supposed to get a positive or negative response by now but he didn't get any response or what? For how long we will wait for their response?
Yep, he still hasn't gotten any response. He doesn't know when he'll receive one. In September he told me he expected a yes or no response by November. But as of yesterday, I spoke to him and he said he still had not gotten one. Who knows how long it will be before they respond... As we know, taking excessively/unnecessarily long seems to be their strong suit.
I wish they would just bring their research overseas or something. This is absurd. They discovered it in 2011 and here were are approaching 2013 and still absolutely nothing.
No money! DR Gerecht is moving forward with being in touch with business though
But the fact that someone SOMEWHERE hasn't provided the money is still absurd. Tons of things get funded all the time. Tons of things for skin regeneration get funded. And they all produce results like 30% improvement, 45% improvement, etc - NOTHING has produced scar free results like the hydrogel. NOTHING is as simple as the hydrogel. Someone has got to be willing to put up the funds for this.
I don't understand, by now dr Harmon should have a positive or negative response from the DoD? Is he supposed to get a positive or negative response by now but he didn't get any response or what? For how long we will wait for their response?
Yep, he still hasn't gotten any response. He doesn't know when he'll receive one. In September he told me he expected a yes or no response by November. But as of yesterday, I spoke to him and he said he still had not gotten one. Who knows how long it will be before they respond... As we know, taking excessively/unnecessarily long seems to be their strong suit.
I wish they would just bring their research overseas or something. This is absurd. They discovered it in 2011 and here were are approaching 2013 and still absolutely nothing.
No money! DR Gerecht is moving forward with being in touch with business though
But the fact that someone SOMEWHERE hasn't provided the money is still absurd. Tons of things get funded all the time. Tons of things for skin regeneration get funded. And they all produce results like 30% improvement, 45% improvement, etc - NOTHING has produced scar free results like the hydrogel. NOTHING is as simple as the hydrogel. Someone has got to be willing to put up the funds for this.
As far as I know,they are working on this now, and some investors are intersted in this too.Hopefully they can get the funding soon!
I don't understand, by now dr Harmon should have a positive or negative response from the DoD? Is he supposed to get a positive or negative response by now but he didn't get any response or what? For how long we will wait for their response?
Yep, he still hasn't gotten any response. He doesn't know when he'll receive one. In September he told me he expected a yes or no response by November. But as of yesterday, I spoke to him and he said he still had not gotten one. Who knows how long it will be before they respond... As we know, taking excessively/unnecessarily long seems to be their strong suit.
I wish they would just bring their research overseas or something. This is absurd. They discovered it in 2011 and here were are approaching 2013 and still absolutely nothing.
No money! DR Gerecht is moving forward with being in touch with business though
But the fact that someone SOMEWHERE hasn't provided the money is still absurd. Tons of things get funded all the time. Tons of things for skin regeneration get funded. And they all produce results like 30% improvement, 45% improvement, etc - NOTHING has produced scar free results like the hydrogel. NOTHING is as simple as the hydrogel. Someone has got to be willing to put up the funds for this.
As far as I know,they are working on this now, and some investors are intersted in this too.Hopefully they can get the funding soon!
I know that they're working on it. They have been. And we appreciate them for that for sure. But it's been a year and nothing has happened.
How do you know there are investors interested?
This case is interesting:
http://en.rusnano.com/press-centre/media/88856
Twenty years ago a Moscow scientist Michael Fonstein moved to the United States to make his mark on the international science scene. Later, together with Andrei Gudkov, Ph.D., and Yakov Kogan, Ph.D., he started a successful biotech company, Cleveland BioLabs, which developed medicine for cancer and radiation syndrome treatment. After years of research, receiving grants from the US government, going public (they trade at NASDAQ: CBLI), the scientists decided to move a substantial part of their activities back to mother-Russia. They think that speeding up the process of developing their drugs would be better for all potentially treatable cancer patientsand for their businesses.
The regulations are more flexible in Russia, said Fonstein, Ph.d, President of Cleveland BioLabs. The process would still take three or for years but its not ten or fifteen.
3 to 4 years for clinical trials for new drugs (not devices!!!) instead of 10 to 15 years, that is AWESOME! I think the entire US pharmaceutical and biotech industry should move their clinical trials in China and Russia.
I don't understand, by now dr Harmon should have a positive or negative response from the DoD? Is he supposed to get a positive or negative response by now but he didn't get any response or what? For how long we will wait for their response?
Yep, he still hasn't gotten any response. He doesn't know when he'll receive one. In September he told me he expected a yes or no response by November. But as of yesterday, I spoke to him and he said he still had not gotten one. Who knows how long it will be before they respond... As we know, taking excessively/unnecessarily long seems to be their strong suit.
I wish they would just bring their research overseas or something. This is absurd. They discovered it in 2011 and here were are approaching 2013 and still absolutely nothing.
No money! DR Gerecht is moving forward with being in touch with business though
But the fact that someone SOMEWHERE hasn't provided the money is still absurd. Tons of things get funded all the time. Tons of things for skin regeneration get funded. And they all produce results like 30% improvement, 45% improvement, etc - NOTHING has produced scar free results like the hydrogel. NOTHING is as simple as the hydrogel. Someone has got to be willing to put up the funds for this.
As far as I know,they are working on this now, and some investors are intersted in this too.Hopefully they can get the funding soon!
I know that they're working on it. They have been. And we appreciate them for that for sure. But it's been a year and nothing has happened.
How do you know there are investors interested?
This is new update of 2 weeks ago...
I don't understand, by now dr Harmon should have a positive or negative response from the DoD? Is he supposed to get a positive or negative response by now but he didn't get any response or what? For how long we will wait for their response?
Yep, he still hasn't gotten any response. He doesn't know when he'll receive one. In September he told me he expected a yes or no response by November. But as of yesterday, I spoke to him and he said he still had not gotten one. Who knows how long it will be before they respond... As we know, taking excessively/unnecessarily long seems to be their strong suit.
I wish they would just bring their research overseas or something. This is absurd. They discovered it in 2011 and here were are approaching 2013 and still absolutely nothing.
No money! DR Gerecht is moving forward with being in touch with business though
But the fact that someone SOMEWHERE hasn't provided the money is still absurd. Tons of things get funded all the time. Tons of things for skin regeneration get funded. And they all produce results like 30% improvement, 45% improvement, etc - NOTHING has produced scar free results like the hydrogel. NOTHING is as simple as the hydrogel. Someone has got to be willing to put up the funds for this.
As far as I know,they are working on this now, and some investors are intersted in this too.Hopefully they can get the funding soon!
I know that they're working on it. They have been. And we appreciate them for that for sure. But it's been a year and nothing has happened.
How do you know there are investors interested?
This is new update of 2 weeks ago...
What's a new update?
Well, something did happen with Juvista. It just wasn't positive. Plus, Juvista never had results anywhere near this prior to their failed clinical trials.
Look, it may not happen as soon as we like but something like this will get funding. Be it from the DoD or increased support and funding from the NHBLI (remember, they're already getting funding from them) they'll reach what they need and progress further.
Chuckstonchew, keep us updated throughout November and if Harmon ever requests our help I'm still happy to do it.
Well, something did happen with Juvista. It just wasn't positive. Plus, Juvista never had results anywhere near this prior to their failed clinical trials.
Look, it may not happen as soon as we like but something like this will get funding. Be it from the DoD or increased support and funding from the NHBLI (remember, they're already getting funding from them) they'll reach what they need and progress further.
Chuckstonchew, keep us updated throughout November and if Harmon ever requests our help I'm still happy to do it.
You got it!
I just came across this stem cell company who is using crowd funding to raise money for their research.
They're called Centagen and are developing anti-aging techniques with adult stem cells.
http://www.indiegogo.com/centagen
Anyway, I just thought I'd post this as an example of a medical company attempting to gain funding that is utilizing crowd funding.
We talked about this before. I think this could be a good option if the DoD doesn't come through.
Very interesting, chuckstonchew. I was not aware that indiegogo allowed funding for medical research but that's great that it does! Most of the medical crowd funding sites are just getting started and as such don't have the exposure that Kickstarter and indiegogo have attained.
I definitely still want to do this if Harmon still expresses interest and they don't get funding from the DoD. I think if people were told about something with the potential of the hydrogel a lot of them would want to back its research.
I definitely still want to do this if Harmon still expresses interest and they don't get funding from the DoD. I think if people were told about something with the potential of the hydrogel a lot of them would want to back its research.
I think they would too! I honestly think it would pick up very quickly! We would just have to make sure we spread the word around as much as we possibly could.
Didn't someone in here say they'd be willing to help make a video? Was that you golfpanther?
You know what? I did until 6 years ago. In that very city. I still have friends and family there so I can make it back if need be. My mother-in-law got her PhD from Johns Hopkins so I know some people there. If it comes to where we need to make it, I can get back that way.
You know what? I did until 6 years ago. In that very city. I still have friends and family there so I can make it back if need be. My mother-in-law got her PhD from Johns Hopkins so I know some people there. If it comes to where we need to make it, I can get back that way.
Perfect!! 
I just came across this stem cell company who is using crowd funding to raise money for their research.
They're called Centagen and are developing anti-aging techniques with adult stem cells.
http://www.indiegogo.com/centagen
Anyway, I just thought I'd post this as an example of a medical company attempting to gain funding that is utilizing crowd funding.
We talked about this before. I think this could be a good option if the DoD doesn't come through.
You can ask dr Harmon if he is interested in crowd funding to raise money for his research but if he says 'no' do not continue insisting on it, then ask him if he has ever considered venture capital funding? Here you can learn something about venture capital funds:
http://www.investope...p#axzz2CSQTOvTE
In 2011 venture capital funds invested $29.4 billion in 3,904 deals:
I really don't understand why they don't try to do that, there must be some good reason for it? 
The entire project is in 'standby' for more than a year, it's really pointless and and very frustrating (although I know that the funds will be approved sooner or later but it would be apsurd to wait for another few years for that to happen 
), they should just set up a company that they would called 'XYZ Therapeutics' or 'ABC Pharmaceuticals' or something like that, for such an extraordinary discovery venture capital firms would be willing to put money into research very quickly, if they were willing to fund Excaliard (EXC-001), RXi Pharma (RXI-109), Halscion and other scarless healing drugs and devices then I don't see a good reason why they wouldn't be willing to fund a potential cure for scars with such superior results.
Here's a new hydrogel being funded by the US Army that is essentially a biological filler which does not degrade (think silicone microdroplets except not synthetic plastic). I'm not exactly sure how, but they list accelerated wound healing as one of the possible applications.
Here's a new hydrogel being funded by the US Army that is essentially a biological filler which does not degrade (think silicone microdroplets except not synthetic plastic). I'm not exactly sure how, but they list accelerated wound healing as one of the possible applications.
http://web.mit.edu/n...solid-1116.html
It has been proven that non degradable scaffolds create scar and degradable scaffolds create new tissue after degrading. Also that looks like it has been developed for long term drug release inside the body.
I just came across this stem cell company who is using crowd funding to raise money for their research.
They're called Centagen and are developing anti-aging techniques with adult stem cells.
http://www.indiegogo.com/centagen
Anyway, I just thought I'd post this as an example of a medical company attempting to gain funding that is utilizing crowd funding.
We talked about this before. I think this could be a good option if the DoD doesn't come through.
I love the idea of crowd funding. I like the idea of a crowd saying fuck any procrastination and lets get this done asap. However I get the impression so far we have a flame and a few or more of us are tending the flame to keep it going, we are protecting it from being blown out. When what we would need on this thread is a roaring fire and a blaze for the crowd funding. I mean if this took off exponently, which I reckon there is a big chance it could. The thought of this instantly having the money, where any time wasting is completely eliminated, is empowering.
I just came across this stem cell company who is using crowd funding to raise money for their research.
They're called Centagen and are developing anti-aging techniques with adult stem cells.
http://www.indiegogo.com/centagen
Anyway, I just thought I'd post this as an example of a medical company attempting to gain funding that is utilizing crowd funding.
We talked about this before. I think this could be a good option if the DoD doesn't come through.
I love the idea of crowd funding. I like the idea of a crowd saying fuck any procrastination and lets get this done asap. However I get the impression so far we have a flame and a few or more of us are tending the flame to keep it going, we are protecting it from being blown out. When what we would need on this thread is a roaring fire and a blaze for the crowd funding. I mean if this took off exponently, which I reckon there is a big chance it could. The thought of this instantly having the money, where any time wasting is completely eliminated, is empowering.
I agree. Merely the thought of crowd funding makes me feel empowered and excited. It could get it done so quickly. I think this is the answer. This is something that virtually everyone would enjoy the benefits of - an exponential take off is certainly possible if not likely. I will present the idea to Dr. Harmon at the end of this month. I hope he and the others see the potential crowd funding has. And I also hope something as new and untraditional as crowd funding would be an option they'd consider, being that JHU is a pretty prestigious, venerable research university...
And as far as this flame that we're tending to - how do you suggest we ignite it to the next level if and when we initiate this crowd funding approach?
I just came across this stem cell company who is using crowd funding to raise money for their research.
They're called Centagen and are developing anti-aging techniques with adult stem cells.
http://www.indiegogo.com/centagen
Anyway, I just thought I'd post this as an example of a medical company attempting to gain funding that is utilizing crowd funding.
We talked about this before. I think this could be a good option if the DoD doesn't come through.
I love the idea of crowd funding. I like the idea of a crowd saying fuck any procrastination and lets get this done asap. However I get the impression so far we have a flame and a few or more of us are tending the flame to keep it going, we are protecting it from being blown out. When what we would need on this thread is a roaring fire and a blaze for the crowd funding. I mean if this took off exponently, which I reckon there is a big chance it could. The thought of this instantly having the money, where any time wasting is completely eliminated, is empowering.
I agree. Merely the thought of crowd funding makes me feel empowered and excited. It could get it done so quickly. I think this is the answer. This is something that virtually everyone would enjoy the benefits of - an exponential take off is certainly possible if not likely. I will present the idea to Dr. Harmon at the end of this month. I hope he and the others see the potential crowd funding has. And I also hope something as new and untraditional as crowd funding would be an option they'd consider, being that JHU is a pretty prestigious, venerable research university...
And as far as this flame that we're tending to - how do you suggest we ignite it to the next level if and when we initiate this crowd funding approach?
Personally I'd prefer the funding up front and in place now and the check cashed. So if they can get it now, the need for a social media for the crowd funding wouldn't be needed, So to me the thought of crowd funding is still secondary, however it still makes me excited as it has a 'fuck this procrastination'. It also gets me excited as it means in the back ground, who knows, we may have another financial gorilla backing it up. Still it still should get it this November for all we know. However there is a worry I have with crowd funding, what if the progress over time is curved, eg. for 1 year the crowd funding progress is slow and then it takes off exponently; whereas getting the DOD funding, despite the procrastination, could just be the signing of one check. It all depend on which one gets the funding first imo.
Regarding the flame, I'm no PR expert on social media, I dont even use facebook, but I believe the answer is social media in order to build up the flame. Who knows it could catch like wildfire in an instant, people donating, people doing fun runs, etc. However it still gets me that a lot of people who come onto this scar forum still don't see what is in plain sight and ignore this thread...