To purplestone...I don't know for sure if oils are bad ,I have read that the way that they are grown is bad , bad , it's so all the food that we eat .
Anyways , try to avoid dairy ,I know it's hard ,I ate pizza today ,I couldn't resist.
Fruits like berries and citrus fruit and avocados make me itch.
Lately having this mamma chia drink that I buy at target , the cranberry lemonade and having a banana and some water , has kept me regular , and when I say regular , it's because of my hypothyroidism I was always constipated , so I think in a way it's helping with the Candida , issues.
I was using the coconut milk but it had vitamin b12 .And my body just reacts with any vitamin.
About your question in the oils ,I think that mostly for me cooking makes my face red , and because of that my husband got me one of those plastic cover masks that people use on jobs to cover their faces and guess what , after I was done cooking some steak , and I only put a little olive oil on the pan,I removed the excess with a paper towel , so in reality,I just rub the pan , with the paper towel, well to the point.....the plastic mask was covered with spots from the grease .that means all that grease was meant to get stuck on my face, no wonder I break out , really?
So , it's good to watch your diet and , like my son says , try a slow cooker , it's more healthy ,I still have to do that ,I think I prefer to use oven bags and cook in the oven .
But a slow cooker it's not a bad idea , that way you will avoid grease and oils , on the pan and on your face.
Ok my update,....I had a pimple that was just there , it was like a little old pimple that was just there, so I decided that putting acnomel , on it would exfoliate , that damn little old pimple that never wanted to come out and also didn't have a point.
So I decided , this acnomel really exfoliates , so then during the day I spot treated and at night I did my routine with the Vicks vaporub, guess what, next day a big whole cyst came out , the vaporub pulled that thing out, this morning I removed what could be removed with the make up remover towels
And I just applied the benzoyl peroxide treatment , no acnomel ,I think I used too much .
I have mixed feelings, because I wanted that thing out , but that fast, it's scary and relieving, but this cyst hurts a lot , the yellow pus was showing but I didn't pushed anything out , let's see what happens tomorrow ,I just hope the rest comes out, and doesn't leave scar tissue that will stay in my face for months.
@bostonredbean.....yes , the ketonazole is an antimicrobial drug that has the capacity to reduce androgen synthesis.
I have been reading about anti-androgen therapy on the dermnetnz.org
Ok, my update, don't ever try to force a cyst to come out, it's crazy.
Well the acnomel, peels the skin, so it made the Vicks vaporub to work overnight and the cyst came out , big , big, some pus came out next day, so I got kind of impatient because I had the worst pain, the reason I wanted to have it out, was because if my pimples are not fully extracted they form this weird kind of scar tissue that looks like a pimple that never goes away or simply will take forever.
The vaporub didn't form this pimple,I had it before I started using the Vicks.
So I had to go back to my Neutrogena clear pore cleanser/mask, and the now jojoba oil for the day .on the messy cyst I just drench it in jojoba oil, because of the dryness.
Other than that, no other problems I just got impatient.
My face seems to be very reactive, and it seems that my skin has gone through a lot of changes, and doesn't agree with chemical or manual exfoliation anymore.
I think I should start writing on another forum, cystic acne.
Ok my skin forms this pore clog ,I can see the pore with keratin , but sometimes it exfoliates like flakes others , expelles a whitehead or just a big cystic bump with a pore or no pore,unpredictable.
Also my skin feels like it burns and after the redness subsides it leaves like a brown line,I have one on top of my lip. The ones on the side at the bottom of my cheeks are gone now, my problem area are my chin and my upper lip , the sides of my nose still get these whiteheads that can flake or exfoliate, but when they exfoliate, sometimes not the whole whitehead comes out, it can come piece by piece and feels like sometimes the whitehead retreats and hides.
What the heck is going on.I don't get it.
To tell you the truth , the dermatologists have said, seborrheic dermatitis on hairline ,eczema all over ,acne .And the other answer or assumption was I have no idea, we can treat it with Accutane or the spirinolactone , or if I prefer I could see the Stanford specialist.
Oh I just want to cry.
I control the burning during the day with jojoba first and then apply the benzoyl treatment from the acne.org on top .I feel like the peroxide is the one that calms the burning, not the jojoba oil.
Sometimes I feel like a have a fungal infection.
Ok this is the big cystic pimple
The big cyst that already exploded ok, that means second day? Kind of, right now it's healing, but it doesn't help to be impatient.if left alone it would have heal by now.
The other side of the face,has kind of cleared.
I took the pics as closest as I could, my camera can make me look clear , but I didn't want to,I don't mind the scars , really ,I mind the pain of the cystic acne and the redness that doesn't stop burning.
Oh , what is wrong with me.
To anyone with red face from face dermatitis, i have a few things thats been clearing me up,
First make sure you don't have bangs, make sure your hair is never on your forehead and always to the side or up, this is actually a big cause to why i got mine. It travels from your hair to your face and eyebrows when you have bangs on your forehead.
Second, i recommend using a combo of zinc soap and antifungal shampoo (nizoral anti dandruff shampoo). I also use antifungal cream as well just to help.
Also, make sure your hair is dandruff free. Still not having bangs is a big deal because even if you think your dandruff free on your hair even a small amount in your hair will ruin your face if you have bangs.
My face has improved drastically and i believe soon enough it will be completely gone. To be honest its going slower than i hope but i guess thats just the way it is.
Warrior027.....what antifungal cream do you use for your face ?
I used the generic ketoconazole shampoo for my scalp, but didn't do anything, it just made me more itchy.
I used the Neutrogena t-sal , and same thing, the only one that helped was the zinc phithyrotone(sp?) Shampoo on my scalp and body ,it seemed to work for about 2 months. Then didn't.
Right now I don't have a scalp problem,I have been using a sulfate free shampoo and when it starts itching, then I use the daily clarifying shampoo from suave.
Conditioners make my scalp and body itch, so I can only use, like 2 or 3 drops of jojoba oil mixed with 2 drops of lavender oil , I mixed both and lightly apply to my scalp, barely touching it and to the ends and all over, then dry my hair after that.
Some people have tried tea tree oil and it seems to work for them.May be I will later.
For my face , applying the jojoba oil first ,and the acne.org peroxide treatment after ,seems to help with the redness , for now.
Hello all , long time no seek but i was testing a diet !!
As i mentioned in my previous posts just to clear it up what worked for me was so far : ketoconazole cream (fungoral from Johnson and Johnson company) applied every night for 7 nights and a face liquid soap from la roche company why i posted in previous posts.
What didnt work for me was free sls shampoo , conditioners (i guess cause the fungus is lipofilic) , anti-dandruff shampoos , cutting off sugar (no major effect on my sd ) , different hydrating cremes (which actually might feed the fungus).
I also tried multi vitamins which contained viotin and folic acid (which are said to be good for SD) and that helped me reach 17 days clear of SD!! I usually have and SD breakout every 14 days,then i apply the cream and in 1-2 nights it goes away.I have in mind testing only viotin supplement as i have heard success stories with it.
Finally i'm very happy to say that i tested gluten free diet and i didn't have an SD breakout for 28 days !!!! After that i got sick, i had the flu and had an SD breakout!
What a coincidence my friends !!! I remember geting my SD worse 2 other times , when i donated blood and when i had the flu again before some months!! Which obviously means that when you're not well on the inside you will not look ok on the outside too .
Anyway , while i tested this very difficult diet (glutten free) i also tried to fix my scalp SD condition so after the shampoo i used ACV therapy for around 8-10' but at first i didnt see any good results cause ACV was pasteurized so i bought another ACV "with the mother" which means unpasteurized and unfiltered and used it every other day for a week, then my scalp SD had almost cured !! Great results my friends it really works!! I will now use it around 2-3 times per week.
So these are my findings ,
be strong be happy
Hopedieslast
@ hopedieslast...I'm happy for your clear days, it's bad that you got sick and had a flare up , it happens to me , when I get sick too.
I also started using suave clarifying shampoo on my scalp and on my body too,I noticed that sls free shampoos still make my scalp itch, and that most soaps, leave a film on my body, plus bumps and dry skin.
I haven't been using the suave for long, so I can't say if I will stick to it.
I had to stop the jojoba oil , because it acts like an oil on my skin, even when its not an oil.
I have been avoiding sugar,I don't know if that has made a difference, the only thing I have noticed is that, I'm not that itchy.
I have noticed that my body is having a hard time healing my existing pimples, but I think it's because I haven't had any sleep, my husband got sick with a really bad cold,ended up in the ER. His allergies get too complicated, like asthma attacks, so I have to keep an eye on him, and I haven't had time to sleep or take care of myself.
Hi, everybody.
So far,I have been finding out what works or doesn't for my skin.
Lately I think that my face doesn't like salicylic acid all over my face.
I kind of found out that the vicks vaporub will take a cyst out, probably piece by piece, especially the ones with multiple heads.
So far I haven't had new breakouts, I'm still dealing with the big cyst, my fault for squeezing it, and also that I haven't been able to apply a thick layer of Vicks at night.
So,I went and got extra strength gold bond powder, the green bottle, since I still think that I'm dealing with some fungus here, so I just applied some thick paste to the cyst once during the day and once that night, and next day the dry skin come out and also a lot of bleeding, it seems that it was still infected, and it looked like it still had a plug , that is today.
I still had some peeling, from old breakouts and applied some gold bond powder and that powder really gets rid of dry skin.
My conclusion I can only use the gold bond powder of I want to finish drying an old pimple or scar, it works really fast , the skin has to be very dry before applying.
All I can say its that , the cyst it's shrinking, I'm happy with the results I'm getting.
I can apply make-up on it now.
I'm still using the same
Neutrogena clear pore, cleanser mask
The acne.org benzoyl treatment, dang! I can't live without this. I don't even need moisturizer on top of it.My face loves,hates oil.
It loves it because if I use moisturizer for awhile, then my skin feels good and soft and then after that my face hates it and starts getting oily.
So far my face it's getting , better.
Hey ,everybody,....So I was trying to find something that stopped my itchiness and redness for the day .
Ok so after washing face , then I apply the treatment from the acne.org with a latex free sponge , kind of like a toner ,I apply enough to avoid rubbing my face too much.Ok then after it dries , like ,30 , minutes after I apply the extra strength gold bond powder , and guess what itchiness burning and redness gone.
No make-up ...let the skin heal.
I know that the extra strength gold bond powder has ,3 , ingredients that the vicks vaporub has .
I just wanna go through the day without pain on my face.
I don't know if I mentioned , but some people here have used this gold bond powder for backacne.
I guess this is proving me that I really have a problem with some kind of fungus ,I don't know what kind though.
I have a confession to make, I went to a morgellons page to see what people are using to kill that fungus, and that is how I found the gold bond powder .
I don't have fibers coming out of me,I feel really sorry for those who have this disease that doctors don't want to believe.
It's really heartbreaking when doctors say that these people are making up their symptoms.
I forgot to mention that I'm trying to eat healthy , mostly chicken with vegetables on soups or grilled, no potatoes, only bananas and apples, my cranberry organic mamma chia drink from target that I have after dinner and the least sugar , the better,sometimes I have 1 or 2 honey lemon halls.
I try to drink water and I'm staying away from citrus fruits and all berries, because I get itchy when I eat those.
I'm cooking with canola oil from mazola, or butter,I barely put any on the skillet, kind of clean it with a paper towel.
No dairy.
I think that I have lost weight doing all of this.
My breakfast is 3 hard boiled eggs.
Sometimes I can make an omelette using red and green bell peppers.no chilies,cilantro ok , or scrambled eggs with nopales (cactus),season with salt ,onions and garlic.
That's it , my chicken soups I make them with chicken breast,green beans ,zuchini ,I use the light green, cilantro and just drop some whole onion and garlic for flavor, and a little salt.
No breads, corn,...corn tortillas,1 or 2., no tomatoes, they are acidic.
The truth,I don't know if I will be able to keep up with eating healthy all the time. It's really hard.
I breakout with chocolate and all nuts, and avocados.
So,I think that's it.
Noche have you had or considered laser treatment? Your condition seems a good deal different than most people on this thread. Might consider removing some hair from your face permanently. Also I would strongly consider not leaving BP on an active wound (like you did after removing the cyst). You should disinfect it of course, but keeping a peroxide on it like that may increase scarring.
From reading posts about successes it seems like a common theme is area/spot treatment doesn't work. Like people managing to keep their face clean except for when bangs fall on it etc. Or people having lots of short-term success with dandruff only to have it come back quickly (comes back into the scalp from the neck/face) You have to completely eradicate whatever small organism it is from the collar bone up to have long term success.
Diet and excercise will help regulate/improve your immune system, which should improve symptoms and break out frequency, but I doubt it would provide an end-all cure for most people.
fleKkn...thank you very much for your advice, and yes I have noticed that my condition these days resembles more of atopic dermatitis,eczema .
The thing that I can't understand is why all these blocked pores resulting in big bumps, if I exfoliate too much or too little, either way I don't win.If I treat , dry skin if I don't , pimples.
And yes I have considered laser hair removal, the dermatologist said no, skin too fragile, it will cause more damage.you should've seen my dermatologist assistant's face when I mentioned laser hair removal, her face went, NO,NO,NO.
So far I have mixed feelings regarding use of salicylic acid, it gets rid of dead skin, but causes irritation.
My dermatologist , like you, think that peroxide interferes with healing.
Thank you again flekkn .I do appreciate every advice.
I found something really interesting.It's a product called skinade,a collagen drink for people over 18.
Look at the list of the main ingredients:
Hydrolysed marine collagen
MSM
VIT C
B- vitamin complex
Omegas 3&6
L-Lysine.
It's a product sold only in The United kingdom, I'm sad.
Look it up , the product claims are that it works on severe acne acne,eczema ,psoriasis.
I have been reading and reading and the most I read it seems that some people have had success using one or more of these ingredients combined.
This product seems to include them all.
This is really fascinating.
i have bought sudocrem which is a cheap miracle cream which is used mostly for napkin rash but its also used for eczema and redness.I've used it only once and the original cream is preety thick and even after 3-4 hours my skin didnt absorb it well. So when i washed my face to take the sudocrem off most off my face's redness was gone so i guess its a preety good alternative to soothe your skin.
I'm thinking of applying sudocrem when my skin is red, overnight or even better buying the sudocrem face cream which i assume will be better absorbed from my face's skin. My only problem now is that i have to buy it online from a pharmacy.
So, another possible treatment added in our little collection.[Edited image out]
i have bought sudocrem which is a cheap miracle cream which is used mostly for napkin rash but its also used for eczema and redness.I've used it only once and the original cream is preety thick and even after 3-4 hours my skin didnt absorb it well. So when i washed my face to take the sudocrem off most off my face's redness was gone so i guess its a preety good alternative to soothe your skin.
I'm thinking of applying sudocrem when my skin is red, overnight or even better buying the sudocrem face cream which i assume will be better absorbed from my face's skin. My only problem now is that i have to buy it online from a pharmacy.
So, another possible treatment added in our little collection. [Edited image out]
Hopedieslast...sudocream has good reviews here, in the acne.org , the only complain on the internet is that some people breakout with it, or that is hard to remove.
Well for what I have read ,it must be the zinc oxide that is insoluble in water, and that its true, now that I'm using the gold bond extra strength powder, that has zinc oxide ,I noticed that when I was washing my face , the powder was leaving a film , and I didn't know why , so I was reading some posts here and by accident probably someone was taking about using zinc oxide and how great it was for the skin, but that they felt that it was hard to remove.
So, next time I used the sensitive not exfoliating wipes from simple to remove the powder from my face and then after that I washed my face with my clear pore cleanser/ mask Neutrogena cleanser, then my face was happy.
No residue , so maybe that is why people breakout, because the cream might leave a residue.
Too bad I react to lanolin, the cream has good ingredients.
I mean,I thought that since I'm getting old I could now get away with using oils on my face , but I just can't, for some reason the only moisturizer that worked on my face for awhile was the dual action moisturizer from clean and clear, but that's it, jojoba is a no no .
Gosh , why do I have such complicated skin.
My son is like, use cerave , well the foaming kind makes my face itch and dry and red , and the hydrating kind, feels like I have a film and sebum on top of my face.????, like really , hummm , just like the cetaphyl cleanser ,too hydrating.
My husband says, hummm , everything that people put on their skin have some good ingredients and a couple of bad ones.they do it, so people keep buying another product to fix the mess that a another product caused, it's a business.
Hummm maybe he's right.
But I have to fix my mess.oh my gosh, maybe I'm hook.
Update on the cyst.....not open anymore , it left a brown mark and some thick skin,a little,....I stopped using the vicks vaporub because , the vicks kept pulling and pulling plugs, so I got tired , and just used the benzoyl treatment from Acne.org and extra strength gold powder to dry it .this powder really absorbs oil .I kind of suffocated it with the powder, all day and might.
Ok, like really, why does the picture in my gallery looks really clear and when I post it , it looks blurry and looks really bad , the skin is not that bumpy.
Come on , the skin is not even red.
@Hopedieslast.....maybe the reason the original didn't come off easily and you didn't feel it absorbing the next time you put it on, could be because zinc oxide doesn't disolve in water.
Ok,dummy me , since I'm using zinc oxide too, from the gold bond extra strength powder.
This is what happened, I was applying the benzoyl peroxide treatment from the acne.org with a latex free sponge, kind of like a toner, so later on I noticed that the used sponges were really dirty, so I thought, hummm maybe it's time to change my cleanser, this cleanser is leaving my face more dirty each day.
So then, it hit me, the zinc oxide is not soluble in water , so I went and Google,... people remove diaper creams from their faces with oil.
No wonder people who use bare minerals complain of breakouts ,maybe they don't use oil to remove the make-up powder.
That is my assumption,I did try bare minerals and always made me breakout ,I was using glycerin based wipes.
I also remember using this discontinued make-up , Jane...at the beginning my daughter and I felt like, oh my gosh , our faces are getting so soft, and then ,bam ...clogged pores, and yes we used wipes to remove it.
I don't know how you react to oils , probably not good huh? What a question.
I personally can use jojoba on hair, but not face. Removing the oil with a steamed towel maybe could be a good idea, but then again that would be putting undesirable oil on my face.
Sigh ,dilemmas, let us know how you use it , ok?
Best wishes
I'm left alone in this forum.I'm sorry people I don't know where to go.
Here we go....Flekkn , said, maybe the peroxide is causing the redness , so I did this,stopped the peroxide treatment and went with jojoba oil only,huh .....my face definitely hates oils. .my face loves peroxide, and peroxide definitely takes away my redness, how do I know this?
Because my quest for perfection took me to use this, blue star ointment,I did applied a little today, oh my gosh,if you happen to have sensitive skin,stay away ,please...my face turned so red, like if it was on fire. I immediately removed this ointment with my make-up remover towels and had to wash my face like 3 times with my cleanser, after that I applied the benzoyl peroxide treatment from the acne.org and voila the redness was gone, oh my gosh I'm addicted to this peroxide.
I have been applying vaporub only when needed,every other day or 2 days I go without. I still apply it with qtips and if I want to I can put extra on top ,I do kind of spread it first with the qtips and put some extra , on top if I feel like it.
I have noticed that when I remove the vicks with the simple make-up remover towels the vicks vaporub looks yellow , like when people have a cold and have the yellow mucus,I know, I'm sorry but that's the best comparison I can make.I guess it's due to all the sebum that was absorbed from the skin.
One thing I have learn is that I have to be patient and let the pimples dissolve on its own.
I'm using the Neutrogena clear pore cleanser/mask to wash face, twice a day and during the day my, can't live without benzoyl peroxide treatment from the acne.org , do I sound like an advertisement , well it works.I don't even need a moisturizer,I just apply it with latex free sponges and probably use like my thumb size of the lotion.
Then I apply maybelline dream liquid mousse, now that I can wear make-up.
Overall I think that my face is getting clear.
This is really weird, but my face is getting kind of oily,or should I say more balanced?
No dryness, no flaking,burning almost under control , if only I have had control and not had forced out any cyst.
I just got some vitamin d3 ,but only 400 iu , the recommended daily dose,I really don't do well with any vitamins, but since I can't stand the sun and never go in the sun ,,I guess I dont need to have any blood work to know that. I also know that fish oil is recommended to be taken with the vitamin d3, but I know I have high cholesterol, so let the fat from my cholesterol absorb the vitamin d3 or is it the other way? I'm sorry but it goes something like that.
I still drink the mamma chia drink, but only half a bottle a day with plenty of water,because I was flushing my synthroid pill ,probably,I use synthroid because of my hypothyroidism.
But really ,I lost weight , but then my body was loosing too many needed nutrients.
I'm learning new things ,I have been reading a lot and have come to my own opinion that everything starts with the demodex mites that we all have on our skins and if they are not controlled, then they can morph into something else.
But again this is my opinion and I just want to control this thing that makes me want to get my controllable acne back again.
I have started to see the light.
I promise to post pictures later ,December 13 ,2014 , my face went out of control because my husband got sick and I couldn't use the vicks vaporub or not even the peroxide treatment, but here I'm and not bad for it hasn't been that long.
Best wishes.
Let's see if any of you come out of hibernation and answer my question please, please.
Ok , my skin lately ,patches of dry yellow skin that sticks to my face and are really hard to remove , because of forced to remove, this happens ,either leave a raw pinkish skin ,a pimple forms or just keeps flaking again , as soon as I remove the dry skin.
Also the feel and look of the skin is like a film of petrolatum , that starts forming, and starts looking like Brown film, and once the skin doesn't flake or get pimply then it still has a whitish/gray film , like flaked skin that keeps shading and flaking on top of each other.
Any idea?
Itchiness ,redness and burning when the skin is unbalanced.
Thank you , and sorry for what I wrote on top ,I was kidding,I know you all are busy.
Thank you again.
Best wishes.
Also I forgot to mention, face gets dry or oily , my t-zone is the most oily.
My hairline next to my forehead, looks and does the same.
I can feel sticky earwax , that is why I rub the inside of my ear with a little bit of vicks and it does help a lot,I have none right now.
I get pimples inside my ears , behind, heck, sometimes even inside my nose.
The reason I started writing on this thread is that according to the places In the body that the images on Google show,I have seborrheic dermatitis.
Oh my eyes get dry and flaky and so my eyebrows.
All of these, plus pimples.
@noche.....I'm writing to myself.
Update...this is what I did for 5 days, I stopped the Vicks vaporub and the acne.org benzoyl peroxide treatment,and used a cream for eczema,huh ? ....the results ...bad ,my pores got congested ,I had to stop yesterday and use my best friends products for right now. I have to use what is works for me right now, I say this ,because many other things have also work one time or another .
I guess in my case it all comes to hormonal changes.I have noticed that diet doesn't really affect me that much.But I still try to limit sugars and dairy products when I can,or should I say when I impose my willing power.
As I said,clogged pores and a cyst that had started to form next to the one that was healing,I call it cyst because it is painful,good that I stopped that eczema cream and wash that I used for 5 days.
The vaporub and the peroxide treatment opened the pore ,I say this because I can see the whole.but as much as I'm tempted to squeeze it,I haven't.
This a description of my pimples,the root of the pimple is really in a pouch ,really deep inside and seems to retract or stay on the side where the open pore is , so it doesn't matter if I try to extract it.
And for what I have read,the mallazessia (sp?)does this, such a fancy name for a horrible fungus.
I still think that this is the cause for all skin problems, it just gets together with another external fungus and mutates into a new one.
Doctors and scientists know this,but can't admit it,because it's big business. Well I can't really blame all of them because some of them try to do their best publishing their findings.
And for those that say the peroxide is going to make me old and give me cancer .Well I say this ,if I leave a cyst on my face untreated ,then I'm going to have to suffer with much pain , and cystic acne is that.
Physical and emotional pain.
And for the people who say that antioxidants are the key ,go and Google antioxidants and read the Wikipedia article.Even when my son tells me that I shouldn't trust Wikipedia by itself,because it's written by different people. I tell him that I hope that those people have the best interest and intentions for us,"the people".
Best wishes.
Oh ,I'm testing the wash and the cream on my itchy hypothyroidism body and scalp .I will let you know how it goes and how I use it.So far as a shampoo , it doesn't make suds, so I just apply to my scalp , massage and leave on for a couple of minutes and rinse, then apply my pink loreal sulfate free moisturizer shampoo and then rinse.
The wash for the body ,I rinse my body with water , then turn off the water, and apply the shampoo all over my body, then leave for a couple of minutes , turn on the water again and rinse,I do this on my whole body.
Then I apply the cream on the spots of my body where I itch.
The name of the wash is ...natralia ,eczema and psoriasis wash and shampoo.
The cream...natralia ,eczema and psoriasis cream.
I ordered this from the walgreens website, it's only available online.
The drugstore.com has all the ingredients listed.
The cream smells like bug spray , well, it contains borax.
Best wishes.
Guys the answer for my sub derm was so simple, all i had to do was take cold showers and avoid hot water on my face or scalp. So far in a few days and the redness on my face is clearing up, with the use of zinc soaps but zinc soap with hot shower didn't work for me, as soon as i switched to cold showers i got great results.
@warrior027...is there any specific brand of zinc soap that works for you?.
And about cold showers I can tell you that they make the hair shine,I know this for a fact , but I don't know why.
It's hard to take cold showers ,I would probably end up with pneumonia.
Great to hear about what has been working for you .
Thanks for sharing.
Best wishes.