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Posted : 07/27/2011 1:02 pm

Iave had a recurring seborrheic dermatitis on my face (nose and cheeks) for the last 4 years or so (32 year old Caucasian male). It tends to flare up and down, usually getting worse in the spring, and sometimes going away altogether. I have been given at least 6 or 7 different creams which donat seem to help at all. I have had minor success with diaper rash cream that contains zinc (something I read online) but it never made the rash go away altogether. Twice I was given prednisone which made the rash go away, but it came right back after I stopped taking it. I think the prednisone might have contributed to my hip pain also (see below).

 

I have also had 2 cases of severe pain in my right hipa once in 2008 and again this year. It seems to coincide with the rash, but I donat get it every time I get the rash. I have been x-rayed for it twice but they didnat find anything out of the ordinary.

 

My doctor is pretty much clueless. He has tested me for lupus (negative) and at my request he did a blood test for celiac (also negative). I understand the blood tests are not that accurate so out of desperation, I started a Gluten Free diet anyways just to see if it would help. Iam about 3 and a half weeks in now and I havenat really noticed much of a change so far.

 

My rash and hip pain have both gotten slightly worse in the last few days. Possibly due to too much sugar and alcohol this past weekend (GF cake and sprite/Jim Beam). The more research I do online, the more I am thinking my problems could be linked to Candida more than gluten. I had mentioned this to my doctor when he tested for celiac, but he just kind of shrugged it off and said heas never seen that and there wasnat a good way to test for it. If it is a Candida problem, I guess the prednisone they gave me was only making it worse? I also took red yeast rice for high cholesterol for several yearsa wonder if that could have contributed? Maybe the rash tends to come out in the spring because my immune system is bogged down with seasonal allergies which allows the Candida to spread?

 

There is a ton of Candida information on the weba almost too much. There are a million different ideas on how to treat ita diet, antifungals, probiotics, etc. If anyone has any insight here, I would really appreciate it. My rash and hip pain arenat terrible right nowa I wonder if I could get rid of it by reducing (but not eliminating altogether) carbs, sugars, alcohol, etc. and taking probiotics? Is there a specific order I need to do this in? Am I wasting my time by considering Candida in the first place?

 

Moonset, you seem to be pretty knowledgeable on this topic... any thoughts?

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(@moonset777)

Posted : 07/27/2011 3:32 pm

Moonset, what antihistamine do you take

 

Currently on 10mg of Cetrizine Hydrochloride per day. I've also used Lotradine as well. Just depends really what one I buy.

 

BTW If you are looking for quicker replies from me it will speed things up if you reply to one of

my posts or pm me, that way I get email notifications of them. I rarely check this Forum/Thread.

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Posted : 07/27/2011 3:35 pm

Iave had a recurring seborrheic dermatitis on my face (nose and cheeks) for the last 4 years or so (32 year old Caucasian male). It tends to flare up and down, usually getting worse in the spring, and sometimes going away altogether. I have been given at least 6 or 7 different creams which donat seem to help at all. I have had minor success with diaper rash cream that contains zinc (something I read online) but it never made the rash go away altogether. Twice I was given prednisone which made the rash go away, but it came right back after I stopped taking it. I think the prednisone might have contributed to my hip pain also (see below).

 

I have also had 2 cases of severe pain in my right hipa once in 2008 and again this year. It seems to coincide with the rash, but I donat get it every time I get the rash. I have been x-rayed for it twice but they didnat find anything out of the ordinary.

 

My doctor is pretty much clueless. He has tested me for lupus (negative) and at my request he did a blood test for celiac (also negative). I understand the blood tests are not that accurate so out of desperation, I started a Gluten Free diet anyways just to see if it would help. Iam about 3 and a half weeks in now and I havenat really noticed much of a change so far.

 

My rash and hip pain have both gotten slightly worse in the last few days. Possibly due to too much sugar and alcohol this past weekend (GF cake and sprite/Jim Beam). The more research I do online, the more I am thinking my problems could be linked to Candida more than gluten. I had mentioned this to my doctor when he tested for celiac, but he just kind of shrugged it off and said heas never seen that and there wasnat a good way to test for it. If it is a Candida problem, I guess the prednisone they gave me was only making it worse? I also took red yeast rice for high cholesterol for several yearsa wonder if that could have contributed? Maybe the rash tends to come out in the spring because my immune system is bogged down with seasonal allergies which allows the Candida to spread?

 

There is a ton of Candida information on the weba almost too much. There are a million different ideas on how to treat ita diet, antifungals, probiotics, etc. If anyone has any insight here, I would really appreciate it. My rash and hip pain arenat terrible right nowa I wonder if I could get rid of it by reducing (but not eliminating altogether) carbs, sugars, alcohol, etc. and taking probiotics? Is there a specific order I need to do this in? Am I wasting my time by considering Candida in the first place?

 

Moonset, you seem to be pretty knowledgeable on this topic... any thoughts?

 

I certainly think it's related to candida although as Western Medicine is still refusing to accept that Candida plays a role in a lot of conditions it's little wonder that your doctor just shrugged off any suggestion of it.

 

If you could post a weekly example of your diet I may be able to get a better picture of things. Thanks!!!

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Posted : 07/29/2011 10:27 am

I certainly think it's related to candida although as Western Medicine is still refusing to accept that Candida plays a role in a lot of conditions it's little wonder that your doctor just shrugged off any suggestion of it.

 

If you could post a weekly example of your diet I may be able to get a better picture of things. Thanks!!!

 

Well, my current diet is pretty varied but consists of a lot of grilled chicken, pork, steaks, and some fish (not much). I eat some veggies too (green beans corn, potatoes, etc.) although it certainly wouldnat hurt to eat more. I have salad 4-5 times a week, usually with Italian or French dressing. I do eat a lot of fruit and fruit yogurt. My normal breakfast is an apple and a glass of OJ. I eat some but not a whole lot of junk food. I donat really have a sweet tooth either, but will have ice cream occasionally. I also have a drink a couple of nights a week. I have been 100% gluten free for the last 4 weeks, as I originally suspected I could have a gluten intolerance. Iam leaning more towards candida now.

 

My seb derm has been coming and going for about 4 or 5 years now. I only learned what it was this year when my dermatologist did a biopsy on it. My diet was probably somewhat unhealthier 4-5 years ago when it started and definitely involved more alcohol. I have been on short stints of predisone twice in the last few years for the rasha which did indeed make the rash go away, but it came right back when I stopped taking it. Now, Iam wondering if the prednisone contributed to making the candida worse.

 

My symptoms seem to come and go on their own, but they seem to be getting worse and lasting longer every year. Sometimes it is just the rash, sometimes it is the rash and the hip pain. The hip pain has been particularly bad this year. There have been some days when I had a lot of trouble walking. They normally appear right around the start of spring and I spent more time outside.. I originally thought I had become sensitive to the sun. This is somewhat strange because most people report their seb derm is worse in the winter and sun actually helps clear it up. I have pretty bad seasonal allergies in the spring, so Iam wondering if the candida is taking advantage of my immune system while it is fighting the allergies. Or maybe me sweating more in the spring makes it worse? Iam not surea

 

Any insight you can offer would be appreciated. Starting today, Iam going on a more strict diet. I picked up a lot of the supplements you mentioned, so hopefully those will helpa garlic pills, coconut oil pills, probiotics, flax oil pills, and zinc. I already take fish oil and a multivitamin.

 

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Posted : 07/29/2011 11:56 am

I certainly think it's related to candida although as Western Medicine is still refusing to accept that Candida plays a role in a lot of conditions it's little wonder that your doctor just shrugged off any suggestion of it.

 

If you could post a weekly example of your diet I may be able to get a better picture of things. Thanks!!!

 

Well, my current diet is pretty varied but consists of a lot of grilled chicken, pork, steaks, and some fish (not much). I eat some veggies too (green beans corn, potatoes, etc.) although it certainly wouldnat hurt to eat more. I have salad 4-5 times a week, usually with Italian or French dressing. I do eat a lot of fruit and fruit yogurt. My normal breakfast is an apple and a glass of OJ. I eat some but not a whole lot of junk food. I donat really have a sweet tooth either, but will have ice cream occasionally. I also have a drink a couple of nights a week. I have been 100% gluten free for the last 4 weeks, as I originally suspected I could have a gluten intolerance. Iam leaning more towards candida now.

 

My seb derm has been coming and going for about 4 or 5 years now. I only learned what it was this year when my dermatologist did a biopsy on it. My diet was probably somewhat unhealthier 4-5 years ago when it started and definitely involved more alcohol. I have been on short stints of predisone twice in the last few years for the rasha which did indeed make the rash go away, but it came right back when I stopped taking it. Now, Iam wondering if the prednisone contributed to making the candida worse.

 

My symptoms seem to come and go on their own, but they seem to be getting worse and lasting longer every year. Sometimes it is just the rash, sometimes it is the rash and the hip pain. The hip pain has been particularly bad this year. There have been some days when I had a lot of trouble walking. They normally appear right around the start of spring and I spent more time outside.. I originally thought I had become sensitive to the sun. This is somewhat strange because most people report their seb derm is worse in the winter and sun actually helps clear it up. I have pretty bad seasonal allergies in the spring, so Iam wondering if the candida is taking advantage of my immune system while it is fighting the allergies. Or maybe me sweating more in the spring makes it worse? Iam not surea

 

Any insight you can offer would be appreciated. Starting today, Iam going on a more strict diet. I picked up a lot of the supplements you mentioned, so hopefully those will helpa garlic pills, coconut oil pills, probiotics, flax oil pills, and zinc. I already take fish oil and a multivitamin.

 

 

 

Hi ferb,

 

I'd stay clear of the prednisone for a start, it's a synthetic corticosteroid which is an immuno-supressant, can induce hip pain and would certainly do a candida overgrowth no favours.

 

1 Eat as much raw fresh veg as you can, broccoli, spinach, kale, lettuce, celery, radishes, peppers, carrots. Eat a low carb diet as well, as low as you can manage.

 

2 All sugars have to go and that probably includes fruit and fruit drinks. Maybe they have no adverse affects on your seb derm but they do on mine. Only way to find out is to cut them out for a few weeks and reintroduce them very gradually. By eliminating them and reintroducing one at a time you may be able to see if they are exacerbating the situation. Best avoided all together if you ask me.

 

3 Avoid, alchohol, tea, coffee etc. I drink only mineral water.

 

4 Put nothing on the rash if you can and certainly nothing that contains lots of chemicals or that will irritate it. I learned that seb derm rashes are best left alone as most anything you will put on them only makes the situation worse. If you must use a moisturiser try and get a natural parabens free aloe vera cream or similar.

 

5 Stick to the supplements. It takes time for these to build up in your system. A good natural antifungal routine (Coconut Oil, Pau D'Arco, Garlic, ACV, Grapefruit Seed Extract, Oil of Oregano) will help in the fight against candida.

 

 

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Posted : 07/29/2011 1:23 pm

Hey Moonset.

 

Now that you have your Candida under control, are you then able to eat "normal food" again without braking out, or do you have to be on the candida diet to keep it down?

 

I am one month in on the Candida diet, and seeing great results, but I am afraid I will never be able to eat normal again.

 

My SD started 2 years ago, and before that I could eat whatever I wanted. I would like to at least get some of that back, as the Candida diet is really strict.

 

By the way, congratulations on your recovery. Always great to hear succes stories.

 

Elvin

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Posted : 07/29/2011 3:01 pm

Hey Moonset.

 

Now that you have your Candida under control, are you then able to eat "normal food" again without braking out, or do you have to be on the candida diet to keep it down?

 

I am one month in on the Candida diet, and seeing great results, but I am afraid I will never be able to eat normal again.

 

My SD started 2 years ago, and before that I could eat whatever I wanted. I would like to at least get some of that back, as the Candida diet is really strict.

 

By the way, congratulations on your recovery. Always great to hear succes stories.

 

Elvin

 

Hi Elvin,

 

Great to hear that you are seeing an improvement after sticking to the diet!!

 

In theory you should be able to go back to some sort of normal diet once you

get the balance of good gut flora restored. This means that not only do you have to

stick to the candida diet for at least 6 months but you need to also take a good course

of probiotics to do this.

 

I myself have been able to eat some things that before would have flared my skin wildly

but I still keep to a healthy diet as the benefits of this have been very rewarding to me.

 

Once you think that you may be clear you can start introducing foods back slowly into

your diet one by one. This way you will be able to see if something you are eating is trigggering

rashes. A lot of it is trial and error to be honest.

 

I really believe that Sugar is the big enemy here. Our bodies simply cannot process the

amount of sugar that the average person may be consuming (a lot of the time unwittingly)

in the highly processed foods that we eat in this day and age.

 

Did you know that eczema and most of it's forms was virtually non existant about 100 years ago

when the average diet contained much, much less sugar that it does today???

 

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Posted : 07/29/2011 3:15 pm

Hey Moonset.

 

Now that you have your Candida under control, are you then able to eat "normal food" again without braking out, or do you have to be on the candida diet to keep it down?

 

I am one month in on the Candida diet, and seeing great results, but I am afraid I will never be able to eat normal again.

 

My SD started 2 years ago, and before that I could eat whatever I wanted. I would like to at least get some of that back, as the Candida diet is really strict.

 

By the way, congratulations on your recovery. Always great to hear succes stories.

 

Elvin

 

Hi Elvin,

 

Great to hear that you are seeing an improvement after sticking to the diet!!

 

In theory you should be able to go back to some sort of normal diet once you

get the balance of good gut flora restored. This means that not only do you have to

stick to the candida diet for at least 6 months but you need to also take a good course

of probiotics to do this.

 

I myself have been able to eat some things that before would have flared my skin wildly

but I still keep to a healthy diet as the benefits of this have been very rewarding to me.

 

Once you think that you may be clear you can start introducing foods back slowly into

your diet one by one. This way you will be able to see if something you are eating is trigggering

rashes. A lot of it is trial and error to be honest.

 

I really believe that Sugar is the big enemy here. Our bodies simply cannot process the

amount of sugar that the average person may be consuming (a lot of the time unwittingly)

in the highly processed foods that we eat in this day and age.

 

Did you know that eczema and most of it's forms was virtually non existant about 100 years ago

when the average diet contained much, much less sugar that it does today???

 

 

do you think sugar in fruits is also a big enemy?

 

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Posted : 07/30/2011 12:33 am

Hi Elvin,

 

Great to hear that you are seeing an improvement after sticking to the diet!!

 

In theory you should be able to go back to some sort of normal diet once you

get the balance of good gut flora restored. This means that not only do you have to

stick to the candida diet for at least 6 months but you need to also take a good course

of probiotics to do this.

 

I myself have been able to eat some things that before would have flared my skin wildly

but I still keep to a healthy diet as the benefits of this have been very rewarding to me.

 

Once you think that you may be clear you can start introducing foods back slowly into

your diet one by one. This way you will be able to see if something you are eating is trigggering

rashes. A lot of it is trial and error to be honest.

 

I really believe that Sugar is the big enemy here. Our bodies simply cannot process the

amount of sugar that the average person may be consuming (a lot of the time unwittingly)

in the highly processed foods that we eat in this day and age.

 

Did you know that eczema and most of it's forms was virtually non existant about 100 years ago

when the average diet contained much, much less sugar that it does today???

 

 

Oh thank you so much, that is great news. It is much more motivating knowing, that I dont have to live like this forever. Not that I would ever go back to the way I ate before, since that was really unhealthy,

but to be able to eat without worrying if this or that would brake me out, would be nice.

 

The thing about eczema makes perfect sense. The food we eat today are crap compared to a 100 years ago. No wonder there are so many sick people today.

 

By the way, thank you for helping us all fight this skin decease with your experience.

Hopefully in a few months when I am clear, I too will write down my story for everyone, so they can see, that diet is the way to go.

 

Elvin

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Posted : 07/30/2011 8:11 am

do you think sugar in fruits is also a big enemy?

 

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Posted : 07/30/2011 8:25 am

Hi Elvin,

 

Great to hear that you are seeing an improvement after sticking to the diet!!

 

In theory you should be able to go back to some sort of normal diet once you

get the balance of good gut flora restored. This means that not only do you have to

stick to the candida diet for at least 6 months but you need to also take a good course

of probiotics to do this.

 

I myself have been able to eat some things that before would have flared my skin wildly

but I still keep to a healthy diet as the benefits of this have been very rewarding to me.

 

Once you think that you may be clear you can start introducing foods back slowly into

your diet one by one. This way you will be able to see if something you are eating is trigggering

rashes. A lot of it is trial and error to be honest.

 

I really believe that Sugar is the big enemy here. Our bodies simply cannot process the

amount of sugar that the average person may be consuming (a lot of the time unwittingly)

in the highly processed foods that we eat in this day and age.

 

Did you know that eczema and most of it's forms was virtually non existant about 100 years ago

when the average diet contained much, much less sugar that it does today???

 

 

Oh thank you so much, that is great news. It is much more motivating knowing, that I dont have to live like this forever. Not that I would ever go back to the way I ate before, since that was really unhealthy,

but to be able to eat without worrying if this or that would brake me out, would be nice.

 

The thing about eczema makes perfect sense. The food we eat today are crap compared to a 100 years ago. No wonder there are so many sick people today.

 

By the way, thank you for helping us all fight this skin decease with your experience.

Hopefully in a few months when I am clear, I too will write down my story for everyone, so they can see, that diet is the way to go.

 

Elvin

 

 

Hi Elvin,

 

I hope it works out for you. It takes a lot of willpower but the benefits far outweigh everything that you have to go through. An unsightly skin condition can be very hard to cope with and will affect your quality of life drastically if you don't get to grips with it and treat it properly.

 

The people that can get on top of seb derm are the people that have the determination to do so.

There is no quick overnight cure for this condition and many people who do not see big improvements very quickly often abandon their course of action as they want too much too soon. That's the wrong way to go about things and why for many people the condition remains a chronic one.

 

That's not to say that you can't see marked improvements in as little as a week with the right treatments/lifestyle. When I got my plan into full swing my condition started to clear up ever so slightly every day which gave me great encouragement to keep going. You're looking at anywhere from 6 months to 18 months to get on top of this thing, it all depends on how much you stick to the regime and how many times you 'slip' along the way.

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Posted : 07/30/2011 10:08 am

Well I am ready for it.

 

I am one month in, and it only took 14 days for 95% of my acne to go away. Now I am left with "only" the redness.

I am actually surprised it only took so little time, to get my acne under control. Maybe its because I have only had SD for a little under 2 years.

 

6-18 months sounds like a lot of time. I am hoping since I only have had it for 2 years, that mine wont take so long. But even if it does, I am sticking with the program no matter what. I am determent to beat this decease.

 

My diet is:

 

Fat: 180 grams = 1620 Kcal (Coconut oil, Olive oil, Eggs, animal fat.)

 

Protein: 75 grams = 525 Kcal ( Fish, Shrimp, Ground beef, Eggs.)

 

Carbs: 20 grams = 80 Kcal ( Only vegetables)

 

I am using BeeAs Candida diet formula.

I like it, it keeps me full, and my weight stabel.

 

If you have some input on my diet, maybe something I could do better, I would love to hear it, if you have the time.

 

Elvin

 

 

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Posted : 07/30/2011 10:20 am

Well I am ready for it.

 

I am one month in, and it only took 14 days for 95% of my acne to go away. Now I am left with "only" the redness.

I am actually surprised it only took so little time, to get my acne under control. Maybe its because I have only had SD for a little under 2 years.

 

6-18 months sounds like a lot of time. I am hoping since I only have had it for 2 years, that mine wont take so long. But even if it does, I am sticking with the program no matter what. I am determent to beat this decease.

 

My diet is:

 

Fat: 180 grams = 1620 Kcal (Coconut oil, Olive oil, Eggs, animal fat.)

 

Protein: 75 grams = 525 Kcal ( Fish, Shrimp, Ground beef, Eggs.)

 

Carbs: 20 grams = 80 Kcal ( Only vegetables)

 

I am using BeeAs Candida diet formula.

I like it, it keeps me full, and my weight stabel.

 

If you have some input on my diet, maybe something I could do better, I would love to hear it, if you have the time.

 

Elvin

 

 

Hi Elvin,

 

That sounds like a great improvement and must be very encouraging for you. Everyone is different and their diet and what works best will be unique to them.

 

It sounds like you are on the road to recovery for sure so my advice to you is......if it ain't broke don't fix it.

 

I'd stick with what you are doing, so far so good and if you need slight adjustments further down the line to be totally clear you can look into making them at that time but for now keep things as they are I'd say.

 

Good Luck!!!!

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Posted : 07/30/2011 12:24 pm

Hi Elvin,

 

That sounds like a great improvement and must be very encouraging for you. Everyone is different and their diet and what works best will be unique to them.

 

It sounds like you are on the road to recovery for sure so my advice to you is......if it ain't broke don't fix it.

 

I'd stick with what you are doing, so far so good and if you need slight adjustments further down the line to be totally clear you can look into making them at that time but for now keep things as they are I'd say.

 

Good Luck!!!!

 

 

Thank you for that.

 

I will need it, because this diet is the hardest thing I have ever done.

But I like my skin clear, more then I like food.

 

I will come back to this thread once in a while, and update with my progress.

 

Elvin

 

 

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Posted : 08/02/2011 11:25 am

Moonset, how extensive was your seb derm? Just wondering, because mine is really just on my nose and a little bit on my cheeks. I was hoping since mine isn't too bad that it might go away within a few weeks of starting the diet. I've only had it for 4 years or so... it will flare up and go away on it's own sometimes. I am 4 days into the diet now and also taking some of the supplements you suggested.

 

Also, did you have any other side effects from the candida? My hip pain is really puzzling, but I feel that it must be related because it seems to get worse when my rash gets worse.

 

And one last question... did you experience the "die off" effects I have read about where your symptoms got worse after starting the diet? If so, how long after starting the diet did that begin?

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Posted : 08/02/2011 5:40 pm

Moonset, how extensive was your seb derm? Just wondering, because mine is really just on my nose and a little bit on my cheeks. I was hoping since mine isn't too bad that it might go away within a few weeks of starting the diet. I've only had it for 4 years or so... it will flare up and go away on it's own sometimes. I am 4 days into the diet now and also taking some of the supplements you suggested.

 

Also, did you have any other side effects from the candida? My hip pain is really puzzling, but I feel that it must be related because it seems to get worse when my rash gets worse.

 

And one last question... did you experience the "die off" effects I have read about where your symptoms got worse after starting the diet? If so, how long after starting the diet did that begin?

 

Hi,

 

My SD was really on both sides of my nose, scalp and to a lesser extent my chin, I suppose they are the sebum rich areas of the face.

 

I certainly believe that the severity of one's SD is dependant on how much the candida has taken hold internally. If you have very mild SD logically there is no reason to think that you should not clear it more quickly than people who have a more severe or agressive form of it. Don't be banking on a quick fix because that will rarely happen with this condition and if you do get clear bear in mind that it can and will come back with a vengeance if you haven't given it long enough and then revert back to bad old dietary/lifestyle habits.

 

If I suffered any die off (Herxheimer reaction) it was so mild that I actually did not notice it. If you experience it then you must see it through. Too many people who notice their condition getting worse cease their course of action as they think things are getting worse but in fact this reaction is quite normal and should be encouraging as it shows the battle is being won.

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Posted : 08/06/2011 3:26 am

Stieprox Liquid (also known as Loprox) is amazing for SD and is kind to even the most sensitive skin (I also have Rosacea and Stieprox doesn't cause any probs for me). I highly recommend it. I use it once a day - make a bubbly lather and leave on the face for a couple mins and rinse with tepid water. My skin has improved dramatically, and gone from oily to normal. In addition, I use topical Miconazole cream 2x a day. This is my on-going anti-SD regimine and it works. Just thought i'd share incase anyone else is interested in trying this combo. Both products are available without prescription at most Pharmacys.

Further info: [Edited link out]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ciclopirox

Best, Shantelle

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(@hans83)

Posted : 08/07/2011 7:06 pm

A few quick questions:

 

Will lotion in general help? Will applying lotion too often make the condition worse? Should certain lotions be avoided? Such as those containing AHA or anything else in particular?

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(@cavemanfan)

Posted : 08/08/2011 10:19 am

Ferb & Elvin, can either of you provide an update on how the Candida diet is affecting your seborrheic derm?

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Posted : 08/08/2011 1:57 pm

Hey Cavemanfan.

 

Sure no problem, here is an update.

 

The severity of my SD:

 

My SD started 2 years ago, and as bad as the redness is, the acne was even worse.

The redness are on the side of my nose, on my cheeks, and behind my ears.

My face was extreamely oily, flaky, itchy, and constant burning.

When I drove a nail across my forehead, my nail would be covered with yellow dead skin form the SD.

And on top of that, I had acne everywere. On my forehead, cheeks, chin, behind my ears, neck, and on my scalp.

It was a living hell.

 

 

I have now been on the candida diet for 39 days.

 

After 14-21 days on the diet, 95% of my acne disappeared.

And on day 30 on the diet, the oil on my face,flaking, itchiness and burning, was also 95% gone.

The redness was still there.

 

On August 1 2011, 8 days ago I went to see a skilled homeopath, so I could figure out what was causing me this problem.

His tests showed, that my liver, kidneys and colon are backed up with toxins, and my digestion is bad.

(I pretty much knew that, hence the skin problems,) and I have food intolerances, and quite a lot actually.

Now I already knew a lot of them, cause I have been testing them for the past to years, but it was nice to get it confirmed.

 

Turns out, I was still eating one thing I was intolerant to the first 30 days. Eggs.

 

So for 8 days now, I have not been eating eggs, and my face has gone from 95% to 99% clear.

(I am talking about the acne, oil, flakiness, itchiness and the burning, those are 99% gone. I was told that I should wait a month from when I cut out the eggs, to see the full effect, so I expect to be 100% clear by the end of this month. The redness however is still there.)

But that is to be expected, since I have only been on the diet for 39 days, and I am nowhere healed yet.

 

The redness will probably be there, until I get my liver, kidneys, colon, and digestion back to balance.

But so far I am extremely happy with the results. Beside the redness i now look completely normal.

39 days ago, I looked like I had the plague, and I broke out in acne 30 new places a day, ( I am not kidding,) and now I am 99% acne, oil, flaky itchy and burn free. The redness are only behind my ears, the side on my nose, and a little on my cheeks. Not much.

Cutting out the foods that my body was intolerant to, got me where I am now.

 

Also I only drink and wash my face with chlorine free water.

 

 

Supplements:

 

Fishoil.

Probiotics.

Multivitamin.

Antifungal.

 

 

I plan on updating my progress every month I have been on this diet, so my next update will be in 3 weeks. September 1.

 

Take care you all.

 

Elvin

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Posted : 08/08/2011 11:52 pm

Hey Cavemanfan.

 

Sure no problem, here is an update.

 

The severity of my SD:

 

My SD started 2 years ago, and as bad as the redness is, the acne was even worse.

The redness are on the side of my nose, on my cheeks, and behind my ears.

My face was extreamely oily, flaky, itchy, and constant burning.

When I drove a nail across my forehead, my nail would be covered with yellow dead skin form the SD.

And on top of that, I had acne everywere. On my forehead, cheeks, chin, behind my ears, neck, and on my scalp.

It was a living hell.

 

 

I have now been on the candida diet for 39 days.

 

After 14-21 days on the diet, 95% of my acne disappeared.

And on day 30 on the diet, the oil on my face,flaking, itchiness and burning, was also 95% gone.

The redness was still there.

 

On August 1 2011, 8 days ago I went to see a skilled homeopath, so I could figure out what was causing me this problem.

His tests showed, that my liver, kidneys and colon are backed up with toxins, and my digestion is bad.

(I pretty much knew that, hence the skin problems,) and I have food intolerances, and quite a lot actually.

Now I already knew a lot of them, cause I have been testing them for the past to years, but it was nice to get it confirmed.

 

Turns out, I was still eating one thing I was intolerant to the first 30 days. Eggs.

 

So for 8 days now, I have not been eating eggs, and my face has gone from 95% to 99% clear.

(I am talking about the acne, oil, flakiness, itchiness and the burning, those are 99% gone. I was told that I should wait a month from when I cut out the eggs, to see the full effect, so I expect to be 100% clear by the end of this month. The redness however is still there.)

But that is to be expected, since I have only been on the diet for 39 days, and I am nowhere healed yet.

 

The redness will probably be there, until I get my liver, kidneys, colon, and digestion back to balance.

But so far I am extremely happy with the results. Beside the redness i now look completely normal.

39 days ago, I looked like I had the plague, and I broke out in acne 30 new places a day, ( I am not kidding,) and now I am 99% acne, oil, flaky itchy and burn free. The redness are only behind my ears, the side on my nose, and a little on my cheeks. Not much.

Cutting out the foods that my body was intolerant to, got me where I am now.

 

Also I only drink and wash my face with chlorine free water.

 

 

Supplements:

 

Fishoil.

Probiotics.

Multivitamin.

Antifungal.

 

 

I plan on updating my progress every month I have been on this diet, so my next update will be in 3 weeks. September 1.

 

Take care you all.

 

Elvin

 

What sort of antifungal supplement do you take?

 

And do you mind positing a link to the candidia diet that you follow? -- I tried eating much less of lots of things (sugars, carbs) and more of things like leafy greens and have done so for about a a month and a half but the results have been little-none. So maybe 'cutting back' isn't enough and I need to follow something more strictly?

 

Also, why only use de-chlorinated water?

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Posted : 08/09/2011 12:53 am

Hey Hans.

 

The only antifungal I am using right now, are coconut oil, and a mild tea.

 

My plan is to let my body adapt to the diet chances first, and then increase the antifungals later, so I dont overwhelm my system.

 

My homeopath thought that would be best.

 

The Candida diet I use, are from: Healing naturally by Bee.

 

I only use chlorine free water, because the chlorine aggravates the SD.

When I wash my face with regular water, my face will get really dry and red for hours after.

With chlorine free water, I dont have that problem.

 

Elvin

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Posted : 08/10/2011 12:54 pm

I have only been on the diet for 2 weeks, and have seen slight improvement (maybe 25%) so far. I got worse for a few days after starting the dieta Iam not sure if that was die off or not.. I felt like it was already getting worse before I started the diet, so it may have been a continuation of that.

 

I have been fairly strict with it. I was already gluten free, and I have had no alchohol, no caffeine and no sugar (not even fruit). I have been using stevia some though, which I think is ok. I mix stevia and cinnamon in my greek yogurt to make it better. I think diet probably is the key to curing this.. itas just going to take longer than I would like.

 

My supplements:

Multivitamin

Flax oil capsules (going to get the liquid which is supposed to be better)

Fish oil

Probiotic

Zinc

Coconut oil capsules

Vitamin D

 

Attached is some really good SD information I ran across today.

 

 

 

Elvin,

Can you tell me about the food allergy testing? Was it a blood test? I would like to get that done also. Do you have to be eating a regular diet prior to the test in order for the allergies to show up? I thought about seeing a homeopath, but Iam not sure how that works with insurance and all. I donat want to walk out of there with a $500 bill. iS

sd_report.pdf

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Posted : 08/11/2011 12:50 am

Hey Ferb.

 

It is nice to hear, that you are seeing progress.

 

I have gotten a lot of bloodtest done over the years from doctors, and they have never been able to show anything wrong with me. According to my doctor, I am as healthy as a horse. But I am not.

 

The test I had done at the homeopath, is called a Vega test. No blood involved.

 

At first I thought it was silly, but without me saying anything, he found every different foods, I already knew I was intolerant to. ( I have been testing foods the last 2 years)

 

Try to find someone with a lot of experience, and a good reputation.

I was lucky to find one with over 40 years of experience.

 

It was not necessary for me to eat the foods I was intolerant to before seeing him. He found them anyway. ( I had already been on the Candida diet one month before seeing him.)

 

But even with the test done, I still have to add new foods to my diet slowly.

No food intolerance tests are 100%

 

I will give you an example of how I have been doing it for the last almost 6 weeks.

(But remember, food intolerances are invidual, you will have to find your own. I have about 15 different food items that I am intolerant to.)

 

For the first 4 weeks I ate the following:

 

Coconut oil. ( Extra virgin)

Olive oil. (Extra virgin)

Romaine lettuce.

Tuna.

Shrimp.

Eggs.

Oregano.

Himalaya salt.

 

Except for eggs, these are my safe foods. I am intolerant to eggs, but I did not know that for sure then, until my homeopath confirmed it.

So since August 1, I have eaten the same things, but without the eggs.

That is almost 6 weeks total. Removing my food intolerances has gotten me 99% acne free.

 

And now I am clear enough to start adding new foods to my diet. This is how I do it.

 

On monday August 15, I will add Cauliflower to my diet. And if I dont get a reaction after a couple of days, I will know I can tolerate it. (3-4 days give or take)

 

After that I will add Broccoli, and again wait 3-4 days give or take, to see if I get a reaction. And so on, and so on, until a have a lot of different foods I can eat again.

 

I am not gonna lie, this is a pain in the ass, and I am not saying that everyone has to do this, but with my bad digestion, and sluggish liver, I cant know for sure what I am intolerant to or not.

 

I also have a small problem with too much meat. If I eat too much, my face breaks out a little. Thats how bad my digestion are right now.

 

By the way, nice SD report you attached. I have that one too. He is definitely on to something right.

 

Elvin

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Posted : 08/18/2011 6:22 pm

I have "cured" myself of SD by eliminating sugar. SD is a form of yeast on your skin. There is a ton of new research on this from peer-reviewed journals showing that SD is a type of yeast that is part of everyone's normal make-up. However, some of us are more sensitive to sugar and the yeast just eats it up and overproduces all over our skin. I got SD when I was 18 and did the nizoral and used a topical sulfur treatment to control it for years. Then, I started seeing an ND for my acne and they had me do an elimination diet. I haven't found anything that affects my acne (yet), but by eating absolutely no cane sugar (brown sugar, white sugar, molasses) and limited amounts of other high glycemic sweeteners (honey, maple syrup) I have no signs of SD anywhere. Basically, just eat as if you were a severe diabetic and you should be good to go. Check out simplysugarandglutenfree.com for recipe ideas...

 

It was on my face, chest and scalp and now...nothing! If I eat too much honey or have some sugar, it's back the next day, but I just dab on a bit of the topical sulfur and eat no sugars for a day or two and it goes away.

 

Now if I could just figure out the cause of my acne and I could throw all my make-up away!

 

The sugar free and low glycemic diet is really challenging at first, but after a month you will see results and after 3 months you should be totally clear. My guess is that if it's not working within a month of strict adherence, then it won't work for you. I'm so used to not eating sugar now that I don't even miss it and most normal foods (like ketchup) taste too sweet for me. Read ALL labels and make sure there is no sugar in anything you eat. This is the first step. Then reduce your intake of all high glycemic sweeteners and processed grains and foods.

 

Let me know if you have any questions.

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