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I'm glad that Somthang and Nbar are seeing results. Keep up the good work.
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I've tried the sauerkraut and it gave me a funny result. The first time I tried it, my SD improved like it never did before (I postponed my white vinegar-green/white tea treatment on purpose). Meaning that the flakes actually disappeared both on my face and scalp, something that never happened before. Then, I tried eating sauerkraut every day and the SD came back. This was a little bummer, but it made me think that maybe something that I was eating with the sauerkraut made my condition worse. I immediately thought of bread and grains, so I cut them for a week without any result (Thank goodness. A non-meat diet without grains is really tough).
Finally, I wondered if the problem were fruits and lo and behold! my condition improved dramatically. It has still not cured my SD, but for instance, now I can (not "have to") use my treatment every 10 days or more instead of every 3/4 days. I also feel much less bloated. I admit that giving up fruits has been really tough considering how much I love them and also that my diet doesn't have many treats (no sweets, no sugar, no processed food, no honey, no syrup, no dairy except yogurt and kefir, etc.) The first days I was irritated, it was like going through withdrawal. But, in the end, it was for the best. Now I try to eat more vegetables for the nutrients intake. Incidentally, what made me question fruits initially was this video:
Let me get this straight: I'm not saying fruits are bad, I'm just saying that something in them increases the severity of my SD. So check it out. In the meanwhile, I am shopping around for good Biotin products even if my SD isn't really an issue anymore. Now, it's more a medium-level nuisance.
Hi Steff,
I cleanse with Dove white bar or the neutrogena foaming wash.. and sulphur on the tip of my nose to experimentate with different lotions after. Honey treatment on my whole face except my nose tip. The volcanic soap did make it worse to me. You can not combine the honey with sulphur in case you want to try the sulphur soap. treatment CeCi.
Washing with water only is not an option for me. Some say the fluoride in the water make it more worse.
Honey treatment is from Auburn... http://www.rosaceagroup.org/The_Rosacea_Fo...ead.php?t=20789
maybe you'll like this product Thoroughly Clean Face Wash and is made by Desert Essence. google it.
I haven't tried it yet. Someone recommended this one to me.
Personallly I believe to watch out with oils cause there is oleic acid in it so you can not elliminate it entirely. Also I believe in probiotics applying externally because they eat yeast. Acidophillus!
Maybe instead of neem oil use neem powder and instead of dactarin cream use the powder.
Camphor and grapefruitseed extract externally. so still some things to try to reach the 100% flake free!
Help me I am allergic for any tiny white flake. The yellow ones I hardly don't see anymore and I have almost no reddness except a little pink on my chin.
Vit b2 helps very well as selenium pills work well. I don't use them only selenium as b vitamins can help spread yeast. The only reason why I am looking for a good external remedy is for preventing the skin damage. So I hope this is some help for you. The best things I have tried so far are the honey treatment the sulphur soap treament with sheabutter mixed with a tiny bit of sulphur powder on top. and for a short while the ACV treatment.. but didnt hold long.
I think the quickest option will be the sulphur soap to get success. don't forget the sheabutter mix of ceci to apply on top. JUST DO IT!
about looking for affected areas.. my dad has in his shower a tanning booth. Its with purple light like black light. If I go there I see very good where the yeast is located. Sometimes there is almost no yeast present this lights up in white. or it is dead skin but whatever is is a good indicator.
Are you a female? the name steff is male I know but you describe the 2 weekly cycle.. steff can be just a user name..
Do you know where I can make a forum so we can rate products on redness and rashes? Is that possible on this forum?
Hi Sebastian,
Good Video! I saw that the sauerkraut man MikeGo on the other forum curezone said that it didn't work out for him. But on the other forum of Rosecea user name Funkymonk is already 6 monts abroad without having SD. In the netherlands on a forum is also someone cured of SD 2 years ago. He did it by diet.
According my test results there is something wrong with the SCFA's. I have got a high propionate and a low acetate and my overall is ok. I am trying to find out what this does mean. Also I have a high arsenic indication. I would like to stimulate everybody to get testing results.. But not only stool also amino acids and hormone profiles. I think that's the only way to make a real progress and discuss them with eachother and with proffessionals.
see u
Jesus think we have problems..
http://books.google.com/books?id=7D4ekHg71...tis&f=false
Dermatitis is covered and these people have it really bad.
I've been reading up quite a bit on the biotin and I'm going to start tomorrow, but I just wanted to add this in real quick.
Just because ONE PERSON finds immediate success does not mean everyone will. The absolute wrong thing to do is to try it for a week and to give up. Some people on other websites have stated that they didn't see improvement to their seb derm until three and a half weeks in.
I've been reading around, and articles (not just forum postings) are stating the links between accutane and biotin deficiency, as well as the link between biotin deficiency and skin conditions on the face such as eczema and different types of dermatitis. Most articles seemed to stress seb derm above the other conditions in relation to the deficiency.
Besides which, Biotin is a fairly harmless drug. Even if you "overdose" it'll simply be deposited in your urine. It also improves the health of your skin as a whole, your hair, and your nails, so even if you are uninspired by the impact that it has on your seb derm it's still a positive drug for your body anyways.
Sorry, for my tardy reply but after my exam ive been a little busy preparing for my next one and with the cricket world cup which ended in dissapointment for us pakis lol.
I would like to reiterate that i am NOT having MSM merely because i couldnt find it anywhere here but it doesnt even seem like i really need it. Neyo mentioned having roughly 10 mg of biotin daily and, for me, only 1.8-2.4 mg per day has made it go away 70 - 80 percent. In my previous post i said how id be trying biotin alone without the 'GNC's mega men' and to be fair my condition got worse BUT i was only having 1.8-2.4 mg biotin. It was still well under control which makes me sure that bition IS what my body pre-dominantly lacks in.
One interesting thing I noticed was that on the morning of my exam (it was in the afternoon) my SD worsened severely (relative to how it had improved) inspite of having taken the pills after getting up. I dont know if it was the tension or what but well it happened anyway and i wanna know if anyone of you has experienced something like that because my weak SD areas started itching like anything.
Right now i am waiting to get my 5000 mcg biotin pills. Two days ago i had 7 (4.2mg) and even the next morning my nose was barely oily which is a very big deal because taking 2.4 mg of biotin; my nose is oily like in normal SD by the next morning. So that was pretty encouraging. I would actually get the bition myself but its not exactly cheap for us in paki rupees so i just have to wait for my father to get coming home from his workplace. He actually thinks i have gone mad and i have to literally spend hours explaining how i am NOT trying to kill myself and it does NOT have side-effects LOL. I actually had to make him read Neyos post for him to believe me. 
Anyway, ill try logging in again soon, but cant really guarantee since my next exam is fast approaching. Take care all of you.
Sorry, for my tardy reply but after my exam ive been a little busy preparing for my next one and with the cricket world cup which ended in dissapointment for us pakis lol.
I would like to reiterate that i am NOT having MSM merely because i couldnt find it anywhere here but it doesnt even seem like i really need it. Neyo mentioned having roughly 10 mg of biotin daily and, for me, only 1.8-2.4 mg per day has made it go away 70 - 80 percent. In my previous post i said how id be trying biotin alone without the 'GNC's mega men' and to be fair my condition got worse BUT i was only having 1.8-2.4 mg biotin. It was still well under control which makes me sure that bition IS what my body pre-dominantly lacks in.
One interesting thing I noticed was that on the morning of my exam (it was in the afternoon) my SD worsened severely (relative to how it had improved) inspite of having taken the pills after getting up. I dont know if it was the tension or what but well it happened anyway and i wanna know if anyone of you has experienced something like that because my weak SD areas started itching like anything.
Right now i am waiting to get my 5000 mcg biotin pills. Two days ago i had 7 (4.2mg) and even the next morning my nose was barely oily which is a very big deal because taking 2.4 mg of biotin; my nose is oily like in normal SD by the next morning. So that was pretty encouraging. I would actually get the bition myself but its not exactly cheap for us in paki rupees so i just have to wait for my father to get coming home from his workplace. He actually thinks i have gone mad and i have to literally spend hours explaining how i am NOT trying to kill myself and it does NOT have side-effects LOL. I actually had to make him read Neyos post for him to believe me.
Anyway, ill try logging in again soon, but cant really guarantee since my next exam is fast approaching. Take care all of you.
Hey guys I have been reading through the thread and I almost 100% sure I have seborrheic dermatits, because I also seem to have dandruff and no acne medication has ever worked.
Here are some pics. Is ths SD? I have been having it for years.
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ItsMe16 said:Hey guys I have been reading through the thread and I almost 100% sure I have seborrheic dermatits, because I also seem to have dandruff and no acne medication has ever worked.Here are some pics. Is ths SD? I have been having it for years.
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I can't tell because the pics are kinda blurry, but basically if the area you are worried about has scaly/flaky skin, it is probably SD.
Now I'm scared to take it. Everyone keep us updated on their progress, though! Right now i am waiting to get my 5000 mcg biotin pills. Two days ago i had 7 (4.2mg)
Holy shit, seven 5000 mcg pills???
I'm taking one 5,000 mcg pill of biotin a day. It's been about four and a half days, and the results are AMAZING. No MSM, nothing else. I used to have to wash my face with a shampoo every night along with slathering some protopic onto my face about once or twice a week, but I haven't done either in this biotin experiment and things are going fine.
It's tough to say whether or not it affected my acne. I've been a year off of accutane and about a month ago my acne started to come back a bit in various places. Sucks but what can you do? The acne isn't nearly as noticeable as the seb derm anyways, so I don't really mind. I use a bit of sulfur wash that my dermatologist gave me and it clears the acne spots after three or four days.
The only other thing that ever worked for me was Nizoral shampoo, but it made me break out something fierce. That spurred me to try biotin. So, if it's any consolation, the biotin isn't doing what the Nizoral did in terms of my acne. It just seems to be pretty flat.
I'm interested to see where this will go in the coming weeks. I'm pretty happy with the results thus far, but I still have a decent amount of redness (albeit less) in my face, so we'll see if the biotin can fully kill that off or not.
Are you people sure you have seborrheic dermatitis. I thought i did for the longest time. Turns out I had dry skin. They look very similiar but are not. I used dandruff shampoos, which only dried me out more and made it worse. The cause of my dry skin was warm\hot water. I started taking cold showers, and guess what. My skin isn't as itchy. There are still some flake, but I have no scalpacne, no new forming acne on face, chest or back.
I went to my Dermatologist back in November and he told me I have SD a long the creases of my nose and also a mixture of acne with it that spreads all the way below my eyes. He prescribed me Clotrimazole (Anti-Fungal Cream) & Hydrocoratisone (Steroid Cream) I had been using these two creams once a day for about a good six months, and I did not notice any type of significant improvement. My SD is fairly mild and the color kind of a light brown and it seems to spread to my chin (gotee).
However, I SD is not itchy or flaky, so I do wonder if it really is SD.
Hi all. I found this thread yesterday on another desperate Google search, and I must have spent about 2 hours reading all the way through it! It was a really interesting read.
I am 37 and have suffered to some degree with my skin all my life (mostly acne), but in recent years the skin on my face has been mostly under control, and it's my seborrheic dermatitis that is dire. My mother has always had this, and my sister too, so I guess I've had the misfortune to inherit it.
It's not so much the appearance of it, as it doesn't actually look that noticeable, but the fact that it causes me so much physical pain! Basically, I have TMJ (jaw) issues and almost constant migraines, so any discomfort around my face and ears is magnified somewhat.
Which brings me to the biggest problem, which is inside one of my ears. I get terrible ear ache from the SD (which has been investigated by numerous doctors - I even went to see an ear, nose and throat specialist). As you'll know, it's very limiting as to what you can actually put inside your ear, so I wondered if anyone had any success stories in that regard. At the moment I use Canesten clotrimazole solution (I am in the UK), which does help, but not enough.
I've tried quite a few things over the years, eg. vinegar (white and ACV, but not taking it internally), lime juice, ascorbic acid (vitamin C), coconut oil, bicarb of soda, aromatherapy oils etc. The only thing I've found that gives me any relief for my scalp and around my hairline and eyebrows is vegetable glycerine. Also taking fish oil internally. I'd love to take biotin, but it makes me really break out with the acne.
I was really interested to read about all the sulfur experiments some of you have done. I have ordered some sulfur powder (flowers of sulfur/sublimed sulfur) to try to mix some in with my shampoo etc. I have a feeling that if I could resolve my scalp SD, the rest would improve by itself.
Any help would be much appreciated - particularly for my ears.
My skin has been going reasonably well lately through diet and using the 50/50 white vinegar/green tea solution. It's not completely clear as I am still getting red patches around my nose and some flaking of my scalp but I've noticed a significant improvement and its nice not to have to use nasty cortisone or nizoral 
To try and completely clear my sd I am thinking about taking biotin tablets. The strongest I can find here in Australia contain 1300mcg in a nails, hair and skin formula containing:
Silica colloidal anhydrous 18 mg
Silicon dioxide (Total silica equiv. 25 mg) 7 mg
Equisetum arvense (Horsetail) extract equiv. to dry stem 460 mg
Vitamin C (Ascorbic acid) 30 mg
Folic acid 150 mcg
Vitamin B5 (Pantothenic acid from calcium pantothenate 21.8 mg) 20 mg
Ferrous fumarate (Iron 3 mg) 9.5 mg
Zinc amino acid chelate (Zinc 7.5 mg) 37.5 mg
Manganese amino acid chelate (Manganese 1 mg) 10 mg
Biotin 1.3 mg
Beta-carotene 1 mg
The strongest stand alone biotin pill I can find here is 300mcg so I'd probably have to take about 6-10 a day to notice any difference.
On this forum I have read about biotin increasing breakouts of acne which I'm not too keen on as my acne is almost gone now but what scares me is that I've read some posts on other forums about biotin causing migraines. I have a long history of migraine though in recent years they have become less frequent so I have no intention of going back to the bad old days.
Are there any migraine sufferers on this forum who have experienced increased attacks as a result of taking biotin? Is there a safe dose anyone can recommend for migraine sufferers?
Thanks.
I have SD and I'm at a lost as what to do.
I have just started using tea tree oil on my face but don't expect results until a month or two. But I know just relying on this to cure me is foolish, so is there anything else I could be doing at the same time? Are success stories really true? Do they actually happen? My face is flakey just about everywhere, especially the sides of my face and the nose, and I develop this pee colored looking crust on the sides of my face a lot, and its hard to get rid of because I'm too afraid of any potential skin damage if I just ripped them off.
I need some guidelines. Also is there any risk of permanent skin changes? Because I always worry about that but some days my skin looks normal and I'm relieved that nothing permanent happened but then later on the fears creep right back in.
Oh and I am also planning on cutting back on eating sweets and might just eat whatever food is safe to eat and water, I don't care I just want this condition to go away.
Unless you use a steroid based cream, your skin coloration should not change. Try the vinegar mixed with Green/White tea solution. As for food, try gradually to avoid dairy (except non-fat plain yogurt), sweets and, believe me, fruits.
What do you mean by coloration? I notice my skin looks much better for about a week when I give it a good scrubbing and the redness goes away. And by permanent skin damage I mean stuff like horrible skin texture.
Why how well have you controlled your SD?
Here's an update.
It felt like Biotin alone was working, but after about a week in my seb derm started to flare up again. Not only that, but Biotin began to give me LARGE acne spots again. I always have about one or two large spots on my face when I'm on Biotin.
I read into it, and there are some theories that claim that BIOTIN, ZINC, and MSM can be used in conjunction with each other to cure seb derm. Now, the theory is that seb derm is caused by a condition nicknamed "leaky gut." I have found this theory ALL OVER THE PLACE, but I have been unable to pinpoint the origin of it, so take it with a HUGE grain of salt.
My current regimen is to take biotin every other day, and to take zinc and msm daily. The result appears to be that seb derm has decreased greatly, while acne has increased greatly. I have pinpointed the acne to being caused specifically by the biotin, as I stopped using biotin the past few days and my acne has nearly gone away.
I'm going to give this about a month to work its magic. According to the theory, after a month leaky gut should be "cured." I'm really, really skeptical about it but my seb derm seems to be clearing up well enough. I'm about two weeks in and it's going alright I guess.
That's just super duper.
Now lets talk about my problems.
Well, what are you currently on? Did you visit a dermatologist? They usually prescribe Protopic as a band-aid and perhaps ketaconazole as well. If ketaconazole works well for you, then great. For me, the ketaconazole refused to work at all, and the protopic only worked to eliminate flares ONCE they appeared, rather than preventing them.
If that's the case, there are an absurd number of homemade remedies to get SD under control. One method is to try washing your face with shampoo (yes, you heard right). The downside of this one is that 1) your face will become dry and 2) I broke out like CRAZY. However, it did indeed work at reducing my SD, although it didn't completely eliminate it. The two shampoos that are typically used are Head & Shoulders or Nizoral.
If that doesn't work, you could try to see if your SD is a reaction to something. Some people have reported that getting rid of a specific irritant completely rid them of their SD. For some people, filtering their shower and sink water cured it (perhaps due to excess chlorine in their state's water). You can try purchasing a filter for your shower to see if it helps. Some people have also stated that their SD was caused by something simple, like an irritating after-shave or a lotion. Try eliminating all possible irritants to see if something is causing the SD and add them back one by one.
If that STILL doesn't work, you can try the more crazy ones, like using certain Macgyver'ed face washes. I've seen things from olive oil to apple cider. I've tried a few and for me they did absolutely nothing, but some people have had success.
If this still all fails, you could try what I'm doing, which is a combination of biotin, MSM, and zinc pills. It's really, really doing wonders for my SD right now (although I'm not convinced it's completely cured it).
Finally, if you're truly at wits end you can argue and argue and argue with your dermatologists to do tests on you. Some people can be mistaken for having SD when they have other things, like psoriasis or MITES. Others have claimed that after years of being told they had SD, an extensive allergy test revealed that they had extreme allergies to common foods.