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(@neyo)

Posted : 04/13/2010 10:26 pm

10 mg is actually not a whole lot in terms of the size. 4 very tiny pills.

 

Remember, this is miligrams; not grams. It's not like taking 10-20 grams of vitamin B5 everyday. The recommended daily value is pretty low, but that's largely because it's assumed the body can produce its own.

 

Also, it's a water soluble vitamin so there aren't any side effects outside of the beneficial ones correcting my deficiency.

 

I will continue using biotin so long as it keeps my seb derm at bay. If I have to take it forever, so be it. Cheap enough and really not a hassle at all. The thing is, I have no idea how messed up my liver is after accutane, but I fear it has significantly impaired my body's ability to process biotin, hence a requirement of the vitamin significantly above normal levels.

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Posted : 04/14/2010 12:26 am

ugh, i skimped on my regimen for a few days and now i have tonsssss of flaking. no redness, just flaking =(. the worst part about it is when i think i got all the flakes off with my scrub and then i go to put my makeup on and as i'm applying it more and more flakes start to come off! it looks so nasty. i slathered on shea butter tonight, i hope that'll do the trick! if it doesn't, i'll put on some hydrocortisone for *just* one night to give my skin a boost.

 

my skin's also adjusting to the weather, i think...it changed from very cold to very warm in just a few days! i think some of the flaking and the fact that i'm breaking out is due to this sudden change...is that possible? i'm hoping that if i just make sure to keep up with my skincare it'll improve within the week...

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Posted : 04/14/2010 6:52 am

interesting on the biotin success

 

strange how you noticed success after a day though..thats never happened to me with any product

 

but i did get severe seb derm after accutane so i was really interested in your story

 

i heard biotin can cause acne though?

 

you take 10mg a day

 

so 5000 mcg pill twice a day=10 mg

 

you only have 2 posts too and thats in this topic and you joined in september...

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Posted : 04/14/2010 7:14 am

I'm mostly a lurker, but I decided to post about this because I saw such a radical and immediate change in hopes that other people would be alleviated like I have.

 

Like you said, I've tried lots of products and have almost never had immediate success after only a day....but this has worked amazingly.

 

Bioton hasn't caused acne at all, in fact it's getting rid of my papules and pustules that I believe are not genuine acne, but a result of my seb derm.

 

All people are different though. There could be multiple causes of seb derm, but biotin deficiency appears to definitely be one of them.

 

It should be noted that I take MSM as well (~4 grams), and took it before bioton and didn't see any real results. It wasn't until I added Biotin that I noticed at the end of the first day that my nose and T-Zone were no longer flaking and my skin felt so smooth.

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Posted : 04/14/2010 6:10 pm

I love it when people come with success stories, gives me some tiny hope. :rolleyes:

 

I took Biotin three years ago (ahh.. time flies...) and it didn't do anything back then. I guess maybe I didnt take it in large enough doses. After reading up on biotin again I noticed that I have another symptom of biotin deficiency: conjunctivitis. Anyone else has the same symptom?

 

Anyway, I'll probably buy some biotin again. Thanks for your input, neyo.

 

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(@raddude)

Posted : 04/14/2010 8:31 pm

anyone ave any of these symptoms along with their sd..

 

dry hands

white tongue

fatigue

dry eyes

 

after trying practically everything else, i'm going to try and tackle this as adrenal gland dysfunction or hypothyroidism.

 

 

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Posted : 04/15/2010 9:29 am

raddude said:
anyone ave any of these symptoms along with their sd..

dry hands

white tongue

fatigue

dry eyes

after trying practically everything else, i'm going to try and tackle this as adrenal gland dysfunction or hypothyroidism.

My symptoms besides SD:

*Not terribly dry hands, but dry. Infact, my hands, arms and my legs flakes abit.

*White tongue. This was a picture of my tongue a year ago [Edited link out]and it's still in the same condition today. Here's another one: [Edited link out]

*Fatigue with slow thinking process. Forgetting words as I speak etc. Really frustrating.

*Dry and bloodshot eyes.

EDIT: Btw, neyo. Are you taking d-Biotin or just Biotin? Noticed that there were two types, not sure what the difference is though.

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Posted : 04/21/2010 1:05 pm

The Biotin deficiency sounds like an interesting lead. I took acutane too and have tried Biotin supplements, but to no avail. But I probably wasn't taking enough of it. Please post back in several months and let us know your progress.

 

Water Fasting?

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On another note, has anyone here tried extended water or juice fasting? My current theory is that the gut needs a break in order to repair and balance the bacterial flora. I tried a 3 week green juice only diet with some improvements, but had to break it because of roommate issues. I've been reading up on a 92 day juice diet that has been touted to cure tons of diseases. Extended 30-40 day water fasts are claimed to detox and re-balance the digestive system too.

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Posted : 04/22/2010 3:08 am

Hey neyo,

 

I take biotin as well. I only take 5 mg at morning, and it helps a little bit, but my SD is not gone completely. I think I'm gonna go up to 10mg and see if that does anything. Do you take all the pills in the morning, or some at morning, some at night?

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Posted : 04/22/2010 3:14 am

anyone ave any of these symptoms along with their sd..

 

dry hands

white tongue

fatigue

dry eyes

 

after trying practically everything else, i'm going to try and tackle this as adrenal gland dysfunction or hypothyroidism.

 

I don't get dry hands - but I do have the other symptoms. I've always had a really white tongue with a lot of gunk on it. Is that a sign of something?

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Posted : 04/24/2010 2:52 pm

Care to update us Neyo?

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Posted : 04/24/2010 4:03 pm

I don't get dry hands - but I do have the other symptoms. I've always had a really white tongue with a lot of gunk on it. Is that a sign of something?

 

sidra - A really white tongue with a lot of gunk on it, means you have a yeast infection in your mouth... and since Seborrheic Dermatitis is a yeast infection of the skin, it seems common for them to coincide. However, it could also be a sign that you have a Candida problem, which is more serious to your overall health. Candida is also known to play a role in causing SD.

 

Well, I should mention that this is my first post on acne.org. This website has been very helpful to me in the past, but this particular thread was of great interest and assistance because I was recently diagnosed with Seborrheic Dermatitis. So I wanted to thank everyone who has shared their info and advice here.

 

Looking back, I realize that I've had SD for a long time, but was never properly diagnosed. I thought I simply had extremely sensitive skin, that would get rashy and flaky. Sometimes it got really inflamed, but it would come and go... so I never knew what it was.

 

Unfortunately, it got soo bad recently that I was flaking off my head and face like crazy!! It was literally snowing on my clothes :mad: and wasn't going away this time, after months of trying every skin care product under the sun!

 

I was at my wit's end, and decided to do a google search for "facial dandruff". To my surprise there was a name for this condition, as every link that resulted was for Seborrheic Dermatitis. I read through many articles about SD, and discovered I had many of the symptoms. Things that I thought were unrelated, are actually connected... and now I understand that I have a yeast problem.

 

I went to my doctor with this information, and he confirmed that I have SD. Let's just say it's a bittersweet discovery, as most of you can relate. At least I know what disease I've been suffering from, but it seems like a stubborn thing to control. I should also mention that I too have a furry-white tongue, and was additionally diagnosed with a Candida infection.

 

Anyway, I read through every page in this thread to figure out my plan of attack, which is why I'm so grateful to everyone who contributed.

 

I really liked neyo's post regarding Biotin, especially because I also took Accutane when I was younger. So I did some research about Biotin, and it's highly recommended for SD, as well as Candida. I'm definitely gonna start taking some!!! Should be taken with a B complex too.

 

Probiotics, an anti-fungal like Oil of Oregano, Fish Oil, and Zinc are also important supplements.

 

I'm also gonna try ACV as a toner, since it seems heavily supported in this thread. As far as cleansers go, there is definitely a lot of different opinions on that subject here... so I guess I'll have to trial and error that one.

 

However, there is one cleanser that wasn't mentioned, that I wanted to post my two-cents on. It seems like this disease doesn't agree with chemical products, and there is an awesome organic all-natural castile soap made by Dr. Bronner's. It has many ingredients in it that I've read good things about for SD, such as jojoba oil, coconut oil, and olive oil. They even have a tea tree version, which is a great anti-fungal oil for fighting yeast. This product is also a bit alkaline, but yeast thrives in acidic environments, so that might be a good thing. I think I'm going to give it a try, and can post my feedback.

 

Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to share some of my own info here. And thanks again!!

 

P.S. - the sd in sdnova are my initials... isn't it ironic that I'm S.D. and suffer from SD :confused:

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Posted : 05/06/2010 9:18 am

Biotin appears to have no success on my SD :(. Have tried 20mg for a week now and no changes in either of my symptoms.

However, I'm once again hopeful because I came along a very interesting case in which long term use of tetracyline (I used tetracyline for a year or so) induced a folate deficiency (see http://www.annals.org/content/78/6/910.abstract ). And guess what, folate deficiency results in SD ("In the skin, the most common folate deficiency-related condition is seborrheic dermatitis. " see [Edited link out] and anemia. This also explains my extreme fatigue. I'll try to hunt down some folate supplements and update you guys if anything happens.

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Posted : 05/06/2010 2:13 pm

Okay, so having been part of this forum for barely two months I have learnt so much about SD that when I think about my perception of it previously, I feel stupid. I want to tell all of you about what I have learnt, how my life had become so miserable, and how I finally, at least till now, seemed to have found a cure (special thanks to neyo for that).

 

Well, I am 18 right now and my symptoms started around the age of 12 I think. My father has/had the same disease and he told me how there was no cure to it and I would just have to apply the same oils he did and it would stay in control. Initially, my SD was not so bad. Mainly on the scalp; there used to be a few outbreaks around my nose and eye brows. Actually, during the first two years, I didnat even pay much attention to it and never understood why my father used to complain about it so much (its well worth noting that he had severe SD of the scalp ONLY though recently he has started having it around the nose area too since his blood pressure meds).

 

Gradually, my SD became resistant to the oil I would use once a week and I started noticing how every day my skin would be apeeling offa and I was flaking heavily. It affected my social life immensely in school and everywhere. Until that time, everyone used to be in love with my hair touching it always. I started noticing how everyone stopped doing that. Now it wouldnat take a genius to tell me why that happened even though no one said anything at that time. Another year or so later it got even worse. So much so, that some of my friends used to ask me if I ever washed my face. That had a terrible, terrible impact on my self-esteem. I stopped hanging out so much in school with people and didnat feel comfortable around anyone. Pretty much stopped going anywhere out of the house unnecessarily. Without trying to sound conceited or anything, before, I was the acute boya in my grade and the girls were after me, but since I stopped hanging out with them that stopped too. I believe that really hit me hard mentally for some reason.

 

On top of all of this, the constant itching, flaking from everywhere, burning, and just not generally feeling normal seeing the perfect skins on everyoneas faces and them not understanding what I have to go through made me feel.. uh well I donat need to tell all of you how it feels. Finally, my parents took me to a dermatologist. I donat want to talk about that because basically it was an utter failure. The doctor gave me some ointment which actually triggered acne. My predicament was now doubled to an extent. Anyway, so I just reverted back to my previous atreatmenta a the oil for the scalp and this steroid which was close to decent for my face but would barely work for five hours and leave my skin oilier than it already was. Not that this would do much, but yes I guess I had learnt to live this way crying every night, which no one knows about actually, not even my girlfriend.

 

When I thought it couldnat get worse, it did. I am talking about the end of 2008. The flaking got agonizing as did the itching. The SD spread to inside and behind my ears. This was a dreadful time especially as this was the most important year of my life in terms of my academics; I was to appear for my GCEas in 2009 . I would spend hours in front of the mirror digging out the shit off my face before going anywhere. In class, I would barely be able to concentrate, thanks to the itching. Close to my exams, my dad seeing my condition which was now ten times worse than his had ever been, took me again to that same dermatologist. Again it didnat help a lot. God knows how, but I managed to ace my exams. One interesting thing, I noted during last summer though was how my SD improved in Malaysia when I went there for my holidays. It could not have been the diet I am confident about that because my intake of sugar and other junk food increased. According to my father, it was the asoft watera. I am not sure what that is, but apparently where I live (Karachi) we have ahard watera. Not sure what all that was about but it did seem to improve considerably. Later, when I came back, it was normal service resumed.

 

I got so frustrated, that I started shampoo-ing every day using head and shoulders yet the condition just seemed to get worse and worse. Then the worst thing happened. Waking up one day, I found the left-from-middle- side of my front hair line COMPLETELY clogged up with dandruff. I tried to scratch it off a little but the only thing that came off were a few strands of hair. At that time my hair had started to thin ever so slightly, most notably, in that area. Well, that day when I was taking a shower I got so aggravated that I used my whole force to get rid of the dandruff in and around that front hair line area. Coming out I found that with the dandruff, a whole chunk of my hair was gone from that area. I was devastated. I honestly didnat know what to do. About the dandruff, or the hair I had lost in two minutes. It felt like a joke. The next day I was like this is it. I donat want ******* hair. Went to the barber got all my hair shaved off, and guess what? The guy was like he has never seen scalp like that before and that I should honestly contemplate going to a dermatologist again. I had red scars on my head.

 

That day my recovery started. First, the new derm I went to was helpful, but as my hair started growing out I was pessimistic again. I had the weirdest front hairline in the world. On a relatively straight hair line, there was a ball like shiny area (the hair I had managed to remove manually iS ). My dandruff was better than ever before but again a new dilemma. All I could do was hope, just hope, that I would have normal hair again and ppl would not ask me if I had an accident every time they saw my hair. 4 months later ( 2 months ago) I found out about this site while researching about SD and yeah this has been a major help. Especially the Vinegar green tea thing. Still, I had to apply it everyday just to keep it under decent control. Then another encouraging thing happened when I saw little baby hair coming out (by chance through a magnifying glass LOL) in the area I had pulled out hair. I was absolutely over the moon that day because I never knew they could come back after roughly 8 months.

 

Anyway, when I saw Neyos post about biotin, I remembered how through my childhood I had been very ill and had had a lot of antibiotics. After, having biotin supplements the first time last week it took only a matter of hours to see the effects. Since that day my skin keeps improving and I have near zero dandruff (having 600mcg biotin) and my skin feels so smooth. I have never been happier, to be honest.

 

I am really sorry about this post which I just realized is humongous but the only reason I did was to tell each and everyone of you that no matter how much you want to give up and bad the situation is, just never ever give up. Thereas hope for everyone out there. I can safely say that I probably had one of the worst cases of SD in the world; hence, the dramatic nature of my post. I used to bleed while showering or when I scratched. I would not be able to sleep at night. It was horrifying. I am sure all of you will be able to find your cure because SD seems to have a lot of reasons but biotin is definitely one of them.

 

P.S. Special thanks again to Neyo and SebastianC, for his vinegar green tea solution.

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Posted : 05/07/2010 1:08 am

I've been reading this thread for a few months now and I've decided to share my story and thank everyone for their experiences and ideas.

 

Well first off I've had a horrible time with acne over the years which started when I was about 13 and only over the last 6 months or so have I been able to say that my acne has now all but gone (I'm 25 now).

 

I now realise that my SD probably started roughly around the same time as my acne when I began to get flaking of the scalp that was more than just the typical case of dandruff. Until the time I was about 18 though the SD was confined to my scalp so it didn't bother me too much which is a relief because my acne was doing a great deal of harm to my self esteem on its own.

 

So when I was about 18/19 I began getting patches of SD around my eyebrows and the sides of my nose and I went to see my doctor who prescribed a topical cream that contained cortisone which I realise now is a definite no go. So once or twice a week I would apply the cream to these patches and they would disappear basically overnight so I didn't worry about it much for the next few years.

 

That was until the time I was 21 when, a few months earlier, I had my wisdom teeth removed. There was a minor complication so I had to take two doses of antibiotics which meant I was taking 2 antibiotic capsules per day for a month. So a few months after taking these antibiotics the SD began to spread to behind my ears, cheeks and on my chin - basically my whole face. The cream prescribed by my doctor wasn't working anymore so I went to the dermatologist. He told me I had SD and for the first time I had a name to this terrible affliction. He prescribed nizoral cream for my face, stronger cortisone cream than the one I had used and nizoral shampoo. Using these products made my symptoms clear up after a month or so and I was joyous with the thought that my woes were behind. Unfortunately this was just a false dawn.

 

My SD became tolerant of these products and I had to find another answer and I decided to take the alternative route and see a naturopath. He told me that my symptoms were an indication of a faulty digestive system exacerbated by the use of antibiotics and told me to stop eating wheat, products containing yeast and also dairy products. I should also note that for years I had suffered from stomach cramps, bloating, flatulence and fatigue. As hard as it was I eventually changed my diet and underwent a liver and stomach cleanse and started taking fish oil, a multi vitamin and a probiotic each day. This regime did wonders for my gut, energy levels and acne and did improve my SD but it still remained.

 

Late last year my SD began to get out of control again especially on my scalp and I had heard about the wonders of coconut oil so I gave it a try which, like everything else, worked for a while until my body became resistant to it. Then I read SebastienC's post about the 50/50 white vinegar and green tea solution and decided to give it a try. For about 5-6 weeks I've been using this solution on my scalp and face and wow! The results have been amazing especially on my face. It works so much more effectively on my face than cortisone without the nasty skin-thinning side effects. I spread it over my face every night and leave it for a few minutes before showering and the results are exceptional. Now, I just use it every second night on any suspicious looking areas and my face has been free of redness and flaking ever since. The results on my scalp haven't been as miraculous but the flaking has reduced significantly and there is no more redness and itching.

 

So many thanks SebastienC. Thanks neyo for the info about biotin. I will give it a try as, personally, I believe that the best solution to get rid of SD involves both internal and external treatment and I can't just rely on one or the other.

 

Somethang you say you take 600mcg of biotin. Is that daily or is it multiple 600mcg tablets daily?

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Posted : 05/07/2010 9:10 pm

I've been reading this thread for a few months now and I've decided to share my story and thank everyone for their experiences and ideas.

 

Well first off I've had a horrible time with acne over the years which started when I was about 13 and only over the last 6 months or so have I been able to say that my acne has now all but gone (I'm 25 now).

 

I now realise that my SD probably started roughly around the same time as my acne when I began to get flaking of the scalp that was more than just the typical case of dandruff. Until the time I was about 18 though the SD was confined to my scalp so it didn't bother me too much which is a relief because my acne was doing a great deal of harm to my self esteem on its own.

 

So when I was about 18/19 I began getting patches of SD around my eyebrows and the sides of my nose and I went to see my doctor who prescribed a topical cream that contained cortisone which I realise now is a definite no go. So once or twice a week I would apply the cream to these patches and they would disappear basically overnight so I didn't worry about it much for the next few years.

 

That was until the time I was 21 when, a few months earlier, I had my wisdom teeth removed. There was a minor complication so I had to take two doses of antibiotics which meant I was taking 2 antibiotic capsules per day for a month. So a few months after taking these antibiotics the SD began to spread to behind my ears, cheeks and on my chin - basically my whole face. The cream prescribed by my doctor wasn't working anymore so I went to the dermatologist. He told me I had SD and for the first time I had a name to this terrible affliction. He prescribed nizoral cream for my face, stronger cortisone cream than the one I had used and nizoral shampoo. Using these products made my symptoms clear up after a month or so and I was joyous with the thought that my woes were behind. Unfortunately this was just a false dawn.

 

My SD became tolerant of these products and I had to find another answer and I decided to take the alternative route and see a naturopath. He told me that my symptoms were an indication of a faulty digestive system exacerbated by the use of antibiotics and told me to stop eating wheat, products containing yeast and also dairy products. I should also note that for years I had suffered from stomach cramps, bloating, flatulence and fatigue. As hard as it was I eventually changed my diet and underwent a liver and stomach cleanse and started taking fish oil, a multi vitamin and a probiotic each day. This regime did wonders for my gut, energy levels and acne and did improve my SD but it still remained.

 

Late last year my SD began to get out of control again especially on my scalp and I had heard about the wonders of coconut oil so I gave it a try which, like everything else, worked for a while until my body became resistant to it. Then I read SebastienC's post about the 50/50 white vinegar and green tea solution and decided to give it a try. For about 5-6 weeks I've been using this solution on my scalp and face and wow! The results have been amazing especially on my face. It works so much more effectively on my face than cortisone without the nasty skin-thinning side effects. I spread it over my face every night and leave it for a few minutes before showering and the results are exceptional. Now, I just use it every second night on any suspicious looking areas and my face has been free of redness and flaking ever since. The results on my scalp haven't been as miraculous but the flaking has reduced significantly and there is no more redness and itching.

 

So many thanks SebastienC. Thanks neyo for the info about biotin. I will give it a try as, personally, I believe that the best solution to get rid of SD involves both internal and external treatment and I can't just rely on one or the other.

 

Somethang you say you take 600mcg of biotin. Is that daily or is it multiple 600mcg tablets daily?

 

Well, to be honest right now im a little confused. When i read about neyos post i tried finding biotin near my place but i couldnt though i did find GNC's 'mega men' it has a lot of stuff in it including 300mcg biotin so i bought that. I had two supplements each day thinkiing it was probably biotin working but im not so sure anymore.

 

Two days back, i did manage to find a place where i could get biotin. i started having one of that (600mcg) and still two of the mega men supplements which equalled to 12 mg.. so till yesterday my dandruff had completely gone. But today morning i decided to not have those supplements and only 18 mg of my biotin supplement. i had it like 18 hours back and my nose is almost perfect but i do seem to have a little bit of dandruff coming back in areas :s. I am not sure if it is the huge amount of coke i had last night or if biotin never actually worked and it was other stuff in the mega men supplement.

 

I'll keep a check on things in the next few days and keep you guys updated. I want to try and keep having only biotin for now to see if it actually is the problem or not. Today i might have four pills (24mg) and see how my condition is at the end of the day. Whatever it is im just trying to find out the perfect amount to have and WHAT EXACTLY to have. Not so much worried about the dandruff right now because i know it is not under my control. I also intend to have saurkraut (sp?) but i'll need to make that myself and for that i need my exams to get over. A levels now -_-. nbar you should definitely try out to because probiotics in supplement form is next to useless apparently.

Math on the 12th :D

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Posted : 05/07/2010 9:13 pm

it is under my control**

try it out too**

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Posted : 05/10/2010 6:43 am

hi everyone. i can relate to what you people are going through. i've been reading all your post and it makes me sad because i know what you're going through.i'm 100% convinced a drug called avodart caused me to develop seborrheic dermatitis. i could explain why but its a long story.i understand its herritary,but also can be caused by medications that effect or dissrupt the immune system and hormones.my situation is unbearible now. i can't even shave without severely irritating my face. i've developed wrinkles due to the scaling and dryness even though i have oily skin. i just don't won't to leave the house anymore. it makes me extremely sad that it effects everything. i'm too depressed and self conscience that going to work is a struggle. i'm a 27 yr male and considered myself attractive a few yrs back,but the sd changed all of that. i just don't have any hope or enjoyment in life anymore. sorry for the sad post. i really hope you all find a treatment that works.

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Posted : 05/10/2010 1:35 pm

hi everyone. i can relate to what you people are going through. i've been reading all your post and it makes me sad because i know what you're going through.i'm 100% convinced a drug called avodart caused me to develop seborrheic dermatitis. i could explain why but its a long story.i understand its herritary,but also can be caused by medications that effect or dissrupt the immune system and hormones.my situation is unbearible now. i can't even shave without severely irritating my face. i've developed wrinkles due to the scaling and dryness even though i have oily skin. i just don't won't to leave the house anymore. it makes me extremely sad that it effects everything. i'm too depressed and self conscience that going to work is a struggle. i'm a 27 yr male and considered myself attractive a few yrs back,but the sd changed all of that. i just don't have any hope or enjoyment in life anymore. sorry for the sad post. i really hope you all find a treatment that works.

 

 

Try biotin. Research. You WILL find a way. Keep the hope mate

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Posted : 05/11/2010 8:15 am

hi everyone. i can relate to what you people are going through. i've been reading all your post and it makes me sad because i know what you're going through.i'm 100% convinced a drug called avodart caused me to develop seborrheic dermatitis. i could explain why but its a long story.i understand its herritary,but also can be caused by medications that effect or dissrupt the immune system and hormones.my situation is unbearible now. i can't even shave without severely irritating my face. i've developed wrinkles due to the scaling and dryness even though i have oily skin. i just don't won't to leave the house anymore. it makes me extremely sad that it effects everything. i'm too depressed and self conscience that going to work is a struggle. i'm a 27 yr male and considered myself attractive a few yrs back,but the sd changed all of that. i just don't have any hope or enjoyment in life anymore. sorry for the sad post. i really hope you all find a treatment that works.

 

 

Hi there! I got SD already from propecia but after propecia I used as well Avodart (dutasteride). I know how you feel.. everything is shit.. even you lost almost your hope. I remember when taking avodart how I could feel the burning inside my body after swallowing that tablet. Eat a green salad mixed with apple cider vinegar and a little sugar and you feel for a few hours as sharp as you where before. I am now on a paleo diet with no sugar. and preparing myself for the combi Paleo body ecology diet.

 

For your skin apply RAW HONEY 3 hours a day for 4 weeks and after each application put valeline for the night on. and coconut oil during day. as a most thin layer u can imagine. After the 4 weeks you'll put the honey only once a week 3 hours. See the rosecea forum for SD and look for Auburn. She is the founder.

Also Ceci sulphur treatment works good. OR the apple cider vinegar with white tea.. don't mix treatements with eachother cause that won't work.

 

As we destroyed something on the inside we suffer from SD due hairgrow drugs. Others from anti biotics or lots of protein shakes. Look also for the paleo or even better the body ecology diet. Even if the body ecology diet won't heal than al least you get approxemately 32 strains of different probiotics in your intestines which produce essential vitamines like b12, etc. They make the brain function better and you will feel better. even your SD will be less due the fermented foods like kefir kombucha.. this is already proven so google on kefir and SD. sure you'll find some positive findings.

 

Low in carbs is good for sd. skip sugar as much as possible. eat a lot of dark green lettuce like romain lettuce. Foods do affect SD. Also i have marks of SD. but in the while you can do a TCA peeling to make your skin better. Learn about your enemy and fight it in the best way you can. Sure sometimes you lose but we win by knowlegde and practice!! Do testing from labs but not the standard ones do them all.. urine, blood, stool ( metametrix lab USA) share results..

 

 

sure this helps a lot. for 95% and in most cases 99%

Help your BODY!!! it's not only the eczema. it's a internal thing. I believe the start of this disease is in colon. but got a chain reaction through the entire body.

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Posted : 05/13/2010 7:22 am

Could a food intolerance really be the cause of SD?

Has anybody tried the Foods Intolerance Detective Home Test?

 

And joellie, I've come across your name many times on SD message boards. I've read you also tried the Volcanic Clay soap which seemed a promising combination of ingredients to me, but apparently it didn't work for you. Is there another pure and organic cleanser you would recommend because I start to believe that finding a good cleanser or soap that doesn't dry out or irritate the skin will make the biggest difference. (I've only washed my face with water the last few years)

 

I can say that SD completely ruined my life since 2001. I've tried most things mentioned but it's getting harder to find the energy to try new things. I have also bought a digital microscope to monitor and examine my skin, but it's very depressing because you'll see that the affected areas are always infected even when you have one of those rare 'perfect skin' days in between SD cycles. In my case every SD cycle last about 2 weeks with day 10 being at its worst with the thick yellow flakes.

 

Am I the only one who's SD seems a lot worse than the Seborrheic google images? Or maybe I was misdiagnosed in 2002?

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Posted : 05/13/2010 7:45 am

Since two days I'm drinking 3 cups of green tea a day with honey till the end of the month, and rubbing one of those teabags on my face every day. I'll report back if it made any difference.

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Posted : 05/13/2010 6:32 pm

I have been rubbing a mix of organic olive oil, organic coconut oil, dead sea salt and baking soda on my SD affected areas a couple hours a day this week and I think it's too early to report anything, but I'll post my results in a week or so.

 

The most troublesome thing for me is the constant redness from the corner of my nose to the corners of my mouth. I have tried everything to keep it at bay and nothing has worked. There's a bunch of ways to keep the flaking down, which is pretty easy to accomplish but the redness is to worst part. Anyone had any luck clearing the redness away?

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Posted : 05/13/2010 7:02 pm

hey guys i also got sd and want to know if exfoliating lightly with a loofah is good? afterwards i would apply promiseb and some cetaphil.

 

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Posted : 05/14/2010 12:24 am

hi everyone. i can relate to what you people are going through. i've been reading all your post and it makes me sad because i know what you're going through.i'm 100% convinced a drug called avodart caused me to develop seborrheic dermatitis. i could explain why but its a long story.i understand its herritary,but also can be caused by medications that effect or dissrupt the immune system and hormones.my situation is unbearible now. i can't even shave without severely irritating my face. i've developed wrinkles due to the scaling and dryness even though i have oily skin. i just don't won't to leave the house anymore. it makes me extremely sad that it effects everything. i'm too depressed and self conscience that going to work is a struggle. i'm a 27 yr male and considered myself attractive a few yrs back,but the sd changed all of that. i just don't have any hope or enjoyment in life anymore. sorry for the sad post. i really hope you all find a treatment that works.

 

This applies to any issue in life: keep looking for solutions with patience, perseverance and confidence and your issues will improve.

 

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