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Somethang, I tried only pure White vinegar. I've never used the synthetic one.
Sidra, before trying the White vinegar/Green(White) tea solution, I used Protopic. I had good results with Protopic, but it did not cure the Seborrheic Dermatitis. That's when I decided to use my current treatment. I have to admit that the vinegar/tea method has worked better than Protopic, it is much less expensive, less invasive and it's natural.
Hi Sebatian,
thanks for your comment! very interesing .. What will be a good ratio of repeatment of treatment if I have a not so good diet and dont want to see any flakes on the pillow or face..
Is that possible anyway?
You didn't got resistent after almost a year.. I got resistent of the ACV after a few weeks..
but this seems to work differently.. perfect please post your diet..
I am currently also working with the sulphur soap of CECI.. so I will try soon this application of yours.. or combinate.. probably next week!
The best recurrent ratio for me is 50/50. It's also the easiest to apply and to remember. And no, I haven't encountered resistance so far. I've read accounts on the internet of people using vinegar for their whole lives. The good thing is that it also improved the health of my hair.
Diet is important and I've just begun to discover it recently. My diet? Well, my diet is a bit Spartan for most people, but it has helped me a great deal and not only with my skin. Basically, I decided to wean myself of the Western diet and eat as natural as possible.
My diet in general terms:
No dairy except organic, non-fat plain yogurt.
No meat.
No salt or very little of it.
Nothing sweet or containing sweet stuff except fruits. This means nothing of the following: cakes, sugar, sweets, candies, chocolate, granola bars, honey, maple syrup (sigh...), etc.
No creams or dresings.
No fruit juices except very rarely home made orange juice with all the pulp of the oranges.
I try to eat organic if it's available and if I can afford it.
I eat:
Fish: Organic salmon, sardines and very rarely: shrimps, scallops, White chunk tuna. (I wish my fish selection were broader, but it's difficult to eat healthy and environmentally sound fish at the same time).
Whole grains: home made whole-wheat bread; soaked: organic groats, organic rye, organic Red Hard Spring wheat, organic barley, organic buckwheat.
Organic sunflower seeds (If I weren't slightly allergic to nuts, I'd eat also Walnuts and Almonds).
Quinoa, wild rice and, rarely, Brown rice.
Beans (Especially Red beans and lentils).
Lots of vegetables (Especially tomatoes, collards and olives).
Eggs only once a week.
No oil and, when used, only extra virgin olive oil.
Fruits only twice a day and only two fruits each time on average (Fruits are my Achilles' heel. I have to restrain myself from eating too many fruits since I'm a fruitowholic).
Organic non-fat plain yogurt.
The dressings I use are: fresh squeezed lemon juice, organic apple cider vinegar, garlic, spices and leaves (cilantro, basilic, tumeric, cinnamon, parsil, red pepper, etc.), organic mustard.
And a few other things I probably forgot to mention.
One of the elements that has improved my diet is the fact that now I eat less. Before I used to eat very healthy, but a lot. Now, I let my digestive system and stomach do their work in peace. I also eat much slower and chew carefully. Something else that I suspect has helped me are also the freshly squeezed lemon juice and organic apple cider vinegar. I use them a lot for fish, salads, etc. I've read that these two are used to purify one's internal digestive system and they might help me in this sense.
As for the sulfur soap, I have an interesting story. I believe around November 2009, I developed dermatitis in my axilla (armpit) regions. Hitherto, I was using a cologne that I applied also under my arms and I think this might have triggered the dermatitis, thought I had used the cologne for 6-7 months before without problems. Therefore, I discontinued the use of the cologne, replaced it with a natural deodorant made of salts and applied Cetaphil and a generic sulfur soap I bought in a health store. Well, needless to say, now I have no more dermatitis in the axilla region, at all. Thus, now I am wondering what happened. Is the dermatitis gone because I discontinued the problematic cologne? Is it because of the natural salt-based deodorant? Is it because of the sulfur soap or Cetaphil? Or is it because of a combination of these last elements? To be continued...
Finally, as a side note, recently I've lasted one week and a half without having to apply the vinegar/tea treatment.
I was diagnosed w/ Seborrheic Dermatitis over 10 years now. I think I finally found a permanent cure (for myself at least)!
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Age: 36. Male. Had Acne Vulgaris as a teenager. Took Tetracycline (anti-bacterial) from 18 to 24. I believe this killed off all my good bacteria which caused a chronic SD infection ... had it on my chest, a patch on my back and aaaaall over my face and head. I'd take a shower and my face would be red and flaky for half the day. SD SUCKS!!!
Topical ACV was the winner for a long time, but the SD would always come back. I've tried 99% of everything mentioned in this post, including going on a completely raw food diet ... lost about 30 pounds. I had been juice fasting for a whole month, had a colonic (the health of your intestines directly correlates to the health of your skin) and the practitioner recommended fermented foods. Did some googling and came across a posting that prescribed eating lots and lots of sauerkraut for SD. Something in the fermentation is balancing my system. My skin has totally cleared up! I pray this is permanent. I'm of Germanic descent, so maybe my gut just loves the sauerkraut. 
I was diagnosed w/ Seborrheic Dermatitis over 10 years now. I think I finally found a permanent cure (for myself at least)!
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Age: 36. Male. Had Acne Vulgaris as a teenager. Took Tetracycline (anti-bacterial) from 18 to 24. I believe this killed off all my good bacteria which caused a chronic SD infection ... had it on my chest, a patch on my back and aaaaall over my face and head. I'd take a shower and my face would be red and flaky for half the day. SD SUCKS!!!
Topical ACV was the winner for a long time, but the SD would always come back. I've tried 99% of everything mentioned in this post, including going on a completely raw food diet ... lost about 30 pounds. I had been juice fasting for a whole month, had a colonic (the health of your intestines directly correlates to the health of your skin) and the practitioner recommended fermented foods. Did some googling and came across a posting that prescribed eating lots and lots of sauerkraut for SD. Something in the fermentation is balancing my system. My skin has totally cleared up! I pray this is permanent. I'm of Germanic descent, so maybe my gut just loves the sauerkraut.
I pretty much have the same view that Tetracycline screwed up my intestines which causes malabsorption and thus SD.
Interesting stuff with the sauerkraut. I'll try to increase my intake of sauerkraut and I'll get back if I see any changes. How long have you been eating it and how much?
Hihi MikeGO,
Nice of you that you thougt about posting this!
Tell us how you eat the sauerkraut RAW or cooked? In what form you buy it(in pack pastoirised or raw? In combination with what kind of diet you take it?How long does it take to go away in time? How much and how often did you take it...
Do you still eat it? How do you prepare the saerkraut?
tell us all about it... thank you.
I was diagnosed w/ Seborrheic Dermatitis over 10 years now. I think I finally found a permanent cure (for myself at least)!
Profile:
Age: 36. Male. Had Acne Vulgaris as a teenager. Took Tetracycline (anti-bacterial) from 18 to 24. I believe this killed off all my good bacteria which caused a chronic SD infection ... had it on my chest, a patch on my back and aaaaall over my face and head. I'd take a shower and my face would be red and flaky for half the day. SD SUCKS!!!
Topical ACV was the winner for a long time, but the SD would always come back. I've tried 99% of everything mentioned in this post, including going on a completely raw food diet ... lost about 30 pounds. I had been juice fasting for a whole month, had a colonic (the health of your intestines directly correlates to the health of your skin) and the practitioner recommended fermented foods. Did some googling and came across a posting that prescribed eating lots and lots of sauerkraut for SD. Something in the fermentation is balancing my system. My skin has totally cleared up! I pray this is permanent. I'm of Germanic descent, so maybe my gut just loves the sauerkraut.
Hey Sebastian,
I found the white tea as well and have got a mix..
thanks for your reply as well
I have a kind of the same diet as you have.
probably we gonna eat a lot of sauerkraut as well haha.
The best recurrent ratio for me is 50/50. It's also the easiest to apply and to remember. And no, I haven't encountered resistance so far. I've read accounts on the internet of people using vinegar for their whole lives. The good thing is that it also improved the health of my hair.
Diet is important and I've just begun to discover it recently. My diet? Well, my diet is a bit Spartan for most people, but it has helped me a great deal and not only with my skin. Basically, I decided to wean myself of the Western diet and eat as natural as possible.
Salmon is the fish which I can't eat.. I can eat tuna unlimited so that fish is safe for me.
Of the nuts I only can stand Macademia without salt!. walnuts & almonds are bad for me. As well lemon juice and cinnamon. the rest I can all eat.
The thing about eating to much is familiar with me.. better eating smaller portions at one time. yep!
HMMM maybe you should try the treatment you mentioned below on a other place where you have sd as well.. keep us informed! I think it is the combination.
Do you have everytime rashes on your pillow after treatment the following morning.. or is this only when you waited to long>?>
As for the sulfur soap, I have an interesting story. I believe around November 2009, I developed dermatitis in my axilla (armpit) regions. Hitherto, I was using a cologne that I applied also under my arms and I think this might have triggered the dermatitis, thought I had used the cologne for 6-7 months before without problems. Therefore, I discontinued the use of the cologne, replaced it with a natural deodorant made of salts and applied Cetaphil and a generic sulfur soap I bought in a health store. Well, needless to say, now I have no more dermatitis in the axilla region, at all. Thus, now I am wondering what happened. Is the dermatitis gone because I discontinued the problematic cologne? Is it because of the natural salt-based deodorant? Is it because of the sulfur soap or Cetaphil? Or is it because of a combination of these last elements? To be continued...
Finally, as a side note, recently I've lasted one week and a half without having to apply the vinegar/tea treatment.
hey guys! sorry i haven't checked this out in so long...mostly because my skin's been looking great lately! but i did have a little flare up a few days ago...the only thing in my regimen that had changed was i started trying to wear mineral makeup again. i guess i must have a little mica sensitivity on top of the SD because when i got my first flare up almost a year ago i was wearing mineral makeup every day
QuoteHey Sebastian,I found the white tea as well and have got a mix..
thanks for your reply as well
I have a kind of the same diet as you have. Probably we gonna eat a lot of sauerkraut as well haha.
Salmon is the fish which I can't eat.. I can eat tuna unlimited so that fish is safe for me.
Of the nuts I only can stand Macademia without salt!. walnuts & almonds are bad for me. As well lemon juice and cinnamon. the rest I can all eat.
The thing about eating to much is familiar with me.. better eating smaller portions at one time. yep!
HMMM maybe you should try the treatment you mentioned below on a other place where you have sd as well.. keep us informed! I think it is the combination.
Do you have everytime rashes on your pillow after treatment the following morning.. or is this only when you waited to long>?>
I have tried to use the sulfur soap and the salt-based deodorant on my face and it has really improved my SD. However, the sun has come back here in Canada and in addition I kept eating right. I'll wait to see if it was really the sulfur soap and the salt-based deodorant who caused the positive reaction.
Some tuna contains high amounts of mercury, choose it carefully. Here some links for fish recommendations:
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As for the sauerkraut, I'm definitely curious. I will definitely try it. I just want to know what type or sauerkraut, how often to eat it and if it cures SD or if it simply takes care of it. In the meanwhile. I also discovered that I can replace nuts with seeds like ground flax seed, pumpkin seeds and sunflower seeds. They actually seem even better than the nuts health wise, flavor wise and are also more convenient.
I get Red spots on my skin where the SD is most active only if I wait too long to apply the white vinegar / Green (White) tea treatment. If I do it twice a week while I take my shower, my skin is almost flawless.
MikeG0 said:I was diagnosed w/ Seborrheic Dermatitis over 10 years now. I think I finally found a permanent cure (for myself at least)!
had a colonic (the health of your intestines directly correlates to the health of your skin) and the practitioner recommended fermented foods. Did some googling and came across a posting that prescribed eating lots and lots of sauerkraut for SD.
Hi MikeG0,
Of course I still want to know what kind of sauerkraut you use.. and how you eat it.. Raw and fresh or Pasturized in pack.
I came on a interesting post on the other forum of funkymonk.
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He 's also free of SD. and did as well a colon. How long in time after the colon treatment you experienced that your SD went away? How long in time after the colon treament did you start eating the sauerkraut.
thanks.
joel
Hi SebastianC.
Thanks for info. Also for the fish.. Tuna .. is the best fish for me without giving me SD.
As for already a long time I only have some rashes left and a light red coloured chin. I tried the ACV/white and green tea together in combination with the honey treatment. and it leaves my skin perfect.. with no rashes.. I tried it only on my chin last week..and its ok.
The honey treament is the basic for now.. I am 2 and a half week on the way.. have to try it for one month. still a short 2 weeks to go. than if results are not ok I will add the ACV teamix treatment.
Do you get first red spots or mild rashes if you wait to long? I first get always the rashes.
About the seads.. I I eat to much pumpkin it also starts to aggravate my SD.. but a little seems to be ok. Nut like almonds or cashew seems to aggravate the sd as well. It's difficult changing my diet.. but last week I eat some paleo.. probably looking out in the future for colonics as well.
I also start eating sauerkraut.. yakki.. its so acid.. I eat it raw not from the pack. just fresh. But the seasons ends now so than the only option left is from the pack.. but keep in mind he did a colonic as well.
just thought i'd re-post this message i found, it has a lot of good information i think is helpful for us suffers.
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Seborrheic dermatitis is linked to the immune system, as is eczema, acne , dandruff. 75% of the immune system is found in the gut, so to begin treating the problem you have to go to the root. Seborrheic dermatitis is linked to a yeast overgrowth of candida, which occurs when the balance of good bacteria is tipped in favour of the bad bactera. Seborrheic dermatitis symptoms, the dry skin, the irritated flaky weeping cracked sore skin, occurs because of the multi nutritional deficiencies that the bad bacteria causes. Riboflavin (B6) , Biotin, B12, Zinc, Fatty acid metabolism, omega 3 and 6's are all synthesized and kept in harmony by the good bacteria in our gut. The good bacteria produce these essential vitamins, and keep in check these essential actions within the body to keep our skin healthy, and to keep our immune system healthy.
Obviously when the bad bacteria take a stance, they begin to digest foods their way, and the nutritional deficiencies occur. You can eat the most healthiest diet in the world, you can stick to the candida diet for 10 years but you will ultimately fail to heal yourself because you are not addressing the root of the problem. Yes, the candida diet is necessary because it stops feeding the pathogenic yeasts and toxins that reside in your intestines and without it your condition will simply spiral out of control, but the emphasis should be placed on restoring your gut flora, and bringing back the balance the body so evidently needs. If you google people such as Natasha Campbell-Mcbridge and Donna Gates, you will all too clearly begin to see the roots of seborrheic dermatitis. So why do we avoid the certain foods, such as gluten, dairy and sugar. I believe that most if not all sufferers of Seborrheic dermatitis have over time developed leaky gut syndrome. The over consumption of sugar, the antibiotics and the whole wealth of causes that cause the good bacteria in our body to be put on the backfoot enables the bad bacteria to get a foothold in the door and begin to wreak havoc. Leaky gut is essentially holes in your intestinal permeability, larger than they should be. (Caused by a lack of good flora, start to see the importance of flora here). So when you eat dairy, or sugar, of anything that feeds the bad bacteria, or when you don't chew enough, or if you overeat, all the toxins seep through the wall . The immune system then thinks, crap, you shouldnt be here and attacks it which causes the flare ups. It produces histamine, and your immune system becomes over active. At the same time it becomes suppressed and weakened, mostly because of the candida, but secondly because it begins to confuse the food molecules that it attacks with other molecules in the body. The gut flora, the good bacteria in our body, the probiotics have the job of modulating the immune system, they teach it how to interact.
So as you begin to see the picture of seborrheic dermatitis, you begin to see why you are why you are. The solution to seborrheic dermatitis, dandruff, acne, fatigue, and the whole host of chronic conditions brought on by our multi industrialized food production potentially lies in restoring the harmony of good bacteria and bad bacteria in our body. Fermented foods I believe holds the key to these conditions. Fermented foods, like sauerkraut, kimichi and kefir promote and re-establish the good flora in our body. They promote regular bowel movements, which is yet another crucial point to this condition, proper elimination allows less elimination through the skin. Sauerkraut has been used for thousands of years for treating and healing gastrointestinal disorders, because that is essentially what seborrheic dermatitis is. It's a hole host of nutritional deficiencies caused by a breakdown of services in the gut. If you are to heal your skin, proper digestion must first occur. You must absorb the nutrients from your food. Without the gut flora winning the battle against the bad bacteria, your immune system will not be working at optimum capacity. It is interesting to note, that depression is linked to a lot of B vitamins, the exact B vitamins that you are lacking in with seborrheic dermatitis. Serotonin, which is what anti depressants are, is made in the gut. 90% of it is made in the gut. Google Natasha Campbell Mcbride, and listen to her lectures because it will be the first step in healing yourself.
So to conclude, I believe that restoring your gut flora will in effect restore order to your body. Your diet is the key, meats, vegetables, fish, Flaxseed Oils, Grains such as Quinoa, Buckwheat and Millet. Yet the true key lies in fermented vegetables, as they will help you digest your food, regrow your good flora, eliminate cravings and restore bowel regularity. You must cut out the crap from your diet, sugar, wheat and dairy. Lactose intolerance is essentially yet again, a lack of good bacteria to digest lactose, the protein found in milk. However, I believe Kefir is a star player in seborrheic dermatitis so I am personally going to introduce it slowly after 3 months of homemade, unpasteurized sauerkraut. In addition, a good strong probiotic is recommended, such as Biokult. The reason I do not believe supplements and lotions and potions work is because the body does not no what to do with them. With food, it is programmed to absorb the nutrients, with supplements it thinks, what the f*** dude. However, a little part of probiotic supplements, as do all supplements make it through, and over time they build it up so you will not lose out. The evidence is there, and I myself as a personal sufferer recognise how hard the struggle is. Each day is a battle, a battle against the mirror and society. Implement these changes and you will see improvement. Little by little you will restore your health, but as with everything, healing takes time. Fermented foods are the key. Google Die off, as you will inevitably feel worse when you start, but this is a good sign because it means your detoxing. It will not happen overnight, and you will not change your eating habits of overnight. Add self care, and when you fall off the diet, forgive yourself and get back on it. Remind yourself of the end goal, a clear complexion and your immune system fully functioning. Do not neglect your mental side, as this too takes a hit. Get support, and stay optimistic. It has taken me 5 years of suffering to find the answers everyone looks for, but now you know what's causing it, you can treat it.
I just tasted raw, fermented sauerkraut and it's D-E-L-I-C-I-O-U-S! I can see myself eating this everyday. But, I have a few questions for those whom it has helped with their dermatitis:
- How often do you eat it?
- How much do you eat every time?
- Do you combine it with other foods?
- Have you seen more or less of an effect while combining with certain foods?
- Do you cook it or eat it raw?
I already eat Red cabbage due to its health properties, this is really a bonus.
I get contact dermatitis when I use products like AHA or BP on my cheeks and mouth area. At least I think it is dermatitis since the area gets very red and dozens of mini bumps show up.
Would an IPL treatment irritate my skin as the harsh creams do? I am talking about light theraphy done by a professional.
Just thought I'd chime in with my little story about SD.
About three years ago I was put on antibiotics....minocycline(sp?)...for about 12 months.....100mg/day. My dermatologist also recommended that I stay off dairy products while taking antibiotics... so you can already see the sh**t storm starting to form in my stomach.
Well when I got off school and went out or the summer to the beach( supposed to stay off sun during antibiotics... yah right...)I started noticing that my chest had some yellow appearance to it that wasn't normal. My entire family noticed and we all couldn't figure out what it was. My mom suggested it might be a fungus and I thought it was absurd at the time but little did I know she was very possibly right. Well....I lived with it because a shirt covers your chest so it was no big deal... about 6 months to a year after that it was all gone... and it hasn't come back yet.
Fast forward two years......in that time I abused vit b5, vit A, ClO, and zinc. Anyways needless to say I came to the realization this past week that the yellow on my chest closely resembles the yellow flakes I get on my face now.....and I realise now that back then I had SD on my chest....... and now two years later I have it on my face and scalp.... it started about 6-8 months ago.... and its under control with nizoral shampoo.
Anyways... I can trace the start of it with the start of antibiotics... and im sure the no dairy( no yogurt worries me most) really caused problems on my stomach when I was younger. I am hoping that just like it went away on my chest it will go away on my face!!! fingers super crossed !!!
Hope this can provide valuable information to the fellow members of the forum!
hey what do you guys do about the flaking? every morning i wake up and its depressing to look in the mirror when you have so much flaking. i think i would scare my gf if she slept overnight with me haha =(
what i do is i use clear tape and let the tape do its work. however it does make my skin a bit more irritated and thus more red. then i apply jojoba oil / moisturizer and hope that my skin stays moist and doesnt flake in public
what are your guys experience on this?
One advice I can give you is to start washing your face with 50-50 White vinegar-Green/White tea every night. Let the solution dry on your face or on the concerned spots and then wash it away. Do this for a week and then start doing it every other night. Eventually, you'll be able to spread the lapses.
hey what do you guys do about the flaking? every morning i wake up and its depressing to look in the mirror when you have so much flaking. i think i would scare my gf if she slept overnight with me haha =(
what i do is i use clear tape and let the tape do its work. however it does make my skin a bit more irritated and thus more red. then i apply jojoba oil / moisturizer and hope that my skin stays moist and doesnt flake in public
what are your guys experience on this?
I wash my face with a sulfur soap (Dr. Joesoef's 10% sulfur soap) and moisturize with African shea butter (mixed with jojoba and grapeseed oils) and these take care of the flaking and itching. No more SD symptoms. Every now and then I might get a flare up of SD (flaking and itching) and I just use something with sulfur or hydrocortisone and that takes care of it. So far, so good.
Hi.. I've had SD for about 5 months now but im of indian origin and i don't get he typical redness i've had just had shiny cracked skin all over my forehead which become plasticy so moisturizer, makeup anything that goes on my forehead immediately makes my forehead look shiny and its very tight and shiny without anything on. I was given all sorts of creams from fucidin daktacort daktarin and hydrocortisone. I went to a derm and he told me I was overexaggerating and told me to carry on with hydrocortisone but it just seems to get more and more shiny and plasticy. Does anyone else have this as everyone seems to have redness but no shiny skin?
Biotin Cured my Seb Derm (accutane + antibiotics likely the cause)
After years and years of suffering from this horrific illness that has made my face, scalp, and skin all over my body a flaky, irritable, dry disaster I have found my miracle cure.
I have tried literally everything for years with no real relief outside of of hydrocortisone (which was far from perfect). The laundry list of products includes numerous dandruff shampoos, facial washes, vinegar, topical antifungals, coconut oils and moisturizes...almost everything that has been discussed here I have tried to no avail.
A few days ago I found a post about MSM + Biotin clearing eczema/seb derm (see: ) and decided to give it a shot.
What a difference only A DAY has made. I went and purchased 2500 mcg pills of Biotin and have been taking roughly 4 each day (for a total of 10 mg each day) and my seb derm has almost completely been eradicated. I am almost 100% clear of seb derm in a very short period of time. Within a week, if this trend continues, Seb Derm will be a distant memory.
Previously my face would always have a tight, burning feeling and my scalp and T-Zone were a flaky mess. I could literally 'dig' up dead skin cells on my scalp and it would be neverending. Every day I would need to exfoliate my face in order to prevent the embarrassing flakes from showing up.
My nose, particularly around the rim, was constantly red and flaky -- no more. I seriously cannot stop touching my face now! It feels incredibly smooth. I haven't felt skin like this in years. Better yet it is clearing up my pustules/papules which I believed to be caused by an impaired skin barrier that was prone to getting infected due to flaking skin leaving small open wounds on my face.
I believe the root cause of my issue was Biotin deficiency that was caused by one of two things:
1. Accutane - I researched Biotin and Accutane and was stunned to find out that those that took Accutane for acne had a very likely chance of Biotinidase deficiency -- accutane causes your liver to have impaired Biotin processing.
2. Antibiotics - Biotin is a largely unignored nutrient because it is generally assumed that your body can produce it. In fact, your body is supposed to produce far more than what you would normally get from food. This biotin is produced by bacteria in the gut. If you have taken antibiotics you run the risk of wiping out all the 'good' bacteria that produce ample amounts of biotin.
Biotin is responsible for carbohydrate and fat metabolism, and has a direct affect on the production of keratin. Not only that, but biotin prevents yeast from developing into malevolent fungal strains that contain mycelium strands.
Further research led me to reports of infantile seb derm (cradle cap) being cured by Biotin supplementation. Apparently some children are born deficient in biotin and this causes their cradle cap because it puts the body in a weakened state to ward off yeast.
I urge anyone suffering from suspected Seb Derm to give large doses (10 mg or so per day) a try. This has been my miracle cure and has ended years of horrific suffering that has greatly impacted my social life and self esteem. I hope this will be of help to some.