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(@ammoniatone)

Posted : 12/10/2009 7:05 pm

thanks for the useful input john smile.gif did you ever try shea butter or coconut oil and if so did you feel that they were less effective than plain ol' jojoba oil?

 

No ... I was using that Vita Oil stuff until they stopped making it before I even looked to see what it was made of. Saw it was jojoba, so just stuck with it. I would imagine that an actual "oil" (which jojoba isn't) would behave and feel very different, but I don't know.

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(@dsrfgsertwe)

Posted : 12/11/2009 12:01 pm

BLEPHARITIS. look up on google. I even had to go to an opthamologist cuz I had no idea of what i had and he said it's cuz of SD...FUCK sebaceous glands.

 

I don't have it anymore tho cuz im on accutane =D Feels so good to run and sweat without itching.

thanks for the blepharitis call, maybe if i can;t find a natural way to handle it i'll see if my derm thinks that's it...

 

and i can imagine how good being able to sweat must feel (the little things you never appreciated anymore, right? :P) I'm naturally thin but i like to start working out (just a little cardio) starting in march-april to get me ready to wear a bikini but idk if that's gonna work out =( i was working out every day before I got SD and OMG sweating makes my skin BURN. even today if i'm just running to catch my train on time and i start to sweat i get soo itchy.

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(@joellie)

Posted : 12/12/2009 8:56 pm

Here is my reply. This disease has been known for about 20/30 years and yet there is still nothing that cures it (just like acne..). I am fully aware that after the Accutane treatment it may come back (although it may not be as bad as before) but at least I was able to sweat without having to scratch my head every second. I dunno about the A.A thing since I, thankfully, don't have any hair disease (I've got a head full of hair lol), but, I've attended a very famous italian site for those who suffer from this 'disease' and about 3/4 of them have got SD and not all of em take Finasteride so ye..mystery.

 

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(@italianboy)

Posted : 12/26/2009 4:40 pm

Therapeutic and prophylactic effects of crude honey on chronic seborrheic dermatitis and dandruff.

 

Al-Waili NS.

 

Dubai Specialised Medical Centre and Medical Research Labs, P.O.Box 19964, Dubai, United Arab Emirates. [email protected]

 

Honey has antibacterial, antifungal and antioxidants activities and has high nutrient value. In this study we investigated the potential use of topical application of crude honey in the management of seborrheic dermatitis and dandruff. Thirty patients with chronic seborrheic dermatitis of scalp, face and front of chest were entered for study. Twenty patients were males and 10 were females, their ages ranged between 15 and 60 years. The patients had scaling, itching and hair loss. The lesions were scaling macules, papules and dry white plaques with crust and fissures. The patients were asked to apply diluted crude honey (90% honey diluted in warm water) every other day on the lesions with gentle rubbing for 2-3 mins. Honey was left for 3 hr before gentle rinsing with warm water. The patients were followed daily for itching, scaling, hair loss and the lesions were examined. Treatment was continued for 4 weeks. The improved patients were included in a prophylactic phase, lasting six months. Half patients were treated with the topical honey once weekly and the other half served as control. All the patients responded markedly with application of honey. Itching was relieved and scaling was disappeared within one week. Skin lesions were healed and disappeared completely within 2 weeks. In addition, patients showed subjective improvement in hair loss. None of the patients ( 15 patients) treated with honey application once weekly for six months showed relapse while the 12/15 patients who had no prophylactic treatment with honey experienced a relapse of the lesions 2-4 months after stopping treatment. It might be concluded that crude honey could markedly improve seborrheic dermatitis and associated hair loss and prevent relapse when applied weekly.

 

Man I'm so trying this if it comes back (hope not)

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(@dsrfgsertwe)

Posted : 12/27/2009 9:30 am

^"crude" honey? is that different from the stuff you get in the supermarket?

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(@stylist17)

Posted : 12/27/2009 11:24 am

Hello All,

 

I just happened upon this topic and I'm totally shocked at what I'm reading!! Everyone here seems to believe that they are suffering from Seborrheic Dermatitis. This particular problem is most commonly know as "Cradle Cap" which is a very dry scaling and itching of the scalp in infants. It rarely occurs in adults and when it does it is primarily in males between the ages of 30-60 years of age.

 

This problem is Fungal in nature and I've seen that the majority of your treatment methods are prescription Shampoo and Creams for "Dandruff". This is going to do nothing for a fungal disorder! What ultimately destroys the fungi that cause SD is a shampoo that contains "Tar" and you can find one over-the-counter, the best would be Neutragena T/Gel Shampoo. This will kill the fungus that is causing SD and help you begin the healing process.

 

All of these prescription Shampoos you all are using have side effects of increased oil production, itching, pin-head sized pimples around the forehead, hairline and sides of the nose, flaking, redness and increased skin sensitivity!

 

Just thought I'd throw in my two cents!! Good Luck with this!! I sincerely believe some of you have been miss diagnosed.

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(@italianboy)

Posted : 12/27/2009 3:31 pm

^"crude" honey? is that different from the stuff you get in the supermarket?

 

I didnt know what crude honey meant but I believe it's a synonym of raw honey so I'm just gonna buy the one you buy at the supermarket =) Let me know if youre gonna try. It can't do no harm anyway

 

Hello All,

 

I just happened upon this topic and I'm totally shocked at what I'm reading!! Everyone here seems to believe that they are suffering from Seborrheic Dermatitis. This particular problem is most commonly know as "Cradle Cap" which is a very dry scaling and itching of the scalp in infants. It rarely occurs in adults and when it does it is primarily in males between the ages of 30-60 years of age.

 

This problem is Fungal in nature and I've seen that the majority of your treatment methods are prescription Shampoo and Creams for "Dandruff". This is going to do nothing for a fungal disorder! What ultimately destroys the fungi that cause SD is a shampoo that contains "Tar" and you can find one over-the-counter, the best would be Neutragena T/Gel Shampoo. This will kill the fungus that is causing SD and help you begin the healing process.

 

All of these prescription Shampoos you all are using have side effects of increased oil production, itching, pin-head sized pimples around the forehead, hairline and sides of the nose, flaking, redness and increased skin sensitivity!

 

Just thought I'd throw in my two cents!! Good Luck with this!! I sincerely believe some of you have been miss diagnosed.

 

Sorry to disappoint you sir, but Cradle Cap is a different thing from Seborrheic Dermatitis. And FYI my derm diagnosed me.

 

And it's NOT rare at all. Common, actually. 1 to 3% of the wordwide population has it.

 

P.S= We have SD also on our face.

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(@yvette2)

Posted : 12/27/2009 5:35 pm

Hi Stylist17,

 

I'm afraid you need to look at more research and articles on SD. It's pretty common and often it causes flares in folks in colder, Winter months. Yes, coal tar may work for some, but there are other options as well that work too: Nizoral, Zinc Pyrothinone, Clindamycin, Salicylic acid, other keralytic agents (retinoids, mandelic acid, lactic acid, etc.).

 

I use Nizoral foam (Extina) and it softens my skin and keeps the bumps at bay! Without it, my forehead would be super scaley/bumpy/waxy.

 

Regards,

Yvette

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(@joellie)

Posted : 12/27/2009 6:08 pm

 

Hello,

 

I tried the Honey treatment and had contact with Mr Wali by mail.. He used black forest Honey.

I did try the Honey of Manuka and other ones.. It will help but eventually not enough for a 100% remission. So I stopped with this. sorry to tell. Maybe for the redness it will help complete.

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(@italianboy)

Posted : 12/28/2009 7:35 am

Hello,

 

I tried the Honey treatment and had contact with Mr Wali by mail.. He used black forest Honey.

I did try the Honey of Manuka and other ones.. It will help but eventually not enough for a 100% remission. So I stopped with this. sorry to tell. Maybe for the redness it will help complete.

 

Thank you very much for your feedback. Can you tell me how you mixed honey and water?

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(@joellie)

Posted : 12/28/2009 8:08 am

Hello,

 

I tried the Honey treatment and had contact with Mr Wali by mail.. He used black forest Honey.

I did try the Honey of Manuka and other ones.. It will help but eventually not enough for a 100% remission. So I stopped with this. sorry to tell. Maybe for the redness it will help complete.

 

Thank you very much for your feedback. Can you tell me how you mixed honey and water?

 

 

 

Of course...just bring in a little honey in the lid of the cup like two teaspoons. apply some water in the lid as wel but a tiny bit.. than you go around in the lid with your finger as long it as it get fluid / more liquid. than apply on the sd areas in the evening for about 3 hours and rinse goes easily with warm /not hot water. and dab with towel..

 

maybe if you combinate it with something else you get a 100% remission

 

 

 

 

 

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(@italianboy)

Posted : 12/28/2009 8:37 am

Thanks!

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(@raddude)

Posted : 12/28/2009 8:37 am

Anyone tried NeutrogenaA T/GelA Shampoo for flaking/redness? I have been able to get the flaking down, but then the areas that usually flake are left red.

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(@mikeg0)

Posted : 12/28/2009 5:25 pm

Hi guys, newbie here. Just found this via Google. Good info. Was diagnosed w/ Seborrheic Dermatitis over 10 years now. Am determined to fix this issue permanently.

 

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Age: 36. Male. Had Acne Vulgaris as a teenager. Took Tetracycline (anti-bacterial) from 18 to 24. I believe this killed off all my good bacteria which caused a chronic SD infection. I subscribe to the theory that there are bacteria which feed on the SD yeast. Maybe this specialized bacteria is now an extinct species in the ecosystem of my body? Could these be specialized organisms passed from mother to child?

 

Regimen:

Had a breakthrough with ACV about 9 months ago. I made a 50/50 water/ACV solution and put it into a spray bottle. Spray it on every morning, then take a cold shower with unscented Lye soap. I also drink an 8oz glass of water with 1/4 teaspoon of ACV in it every morning. 1000 mg omega 3 krill oil, 1000 mg D3, 100 mg Vit C (rosehips) daily. SD disappeared; skin healthier than I can ever remember. However, SD reappeared during the holidays because I was traveling and had to completely abandoned this regimen.

 

 

Further Thoughts:

I think there is a strong link between acne and HFCS (high fructose corn syrup), bleached wheat and bleached rice and the increased rise of sugar levels in the SAD (standard american diet). HFCS were *invented* in Japan in 1969. Did I read correctly that SD has only been around for 30 years ... coincidental correlation?

 

The following is a must see video about HFCS and sugar. Share it with your friends. You will be smarter after watching it ...

 

 

youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

 

 

 

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(@what1sth1s)

Posted : 12/31/2009 1:34 am

hey ive read the whole forum so far.

 

got some questions: ACV or apple cider vinegar, do you drink it or apply it to the face?

 

do any of you use the "tape method" of exfoliating the flakes? (using tape)

 

thanks

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(@raddude)

Posted : 01/03/2010 2:54 pm

has anyone noticed their sd spread or turn into rosacea?

 

first i had a small patch of skin in the fold between my nose and mouth. eventually that turned into sd on both sides of nose and fold. now my cheeks have become red and grainy in texture. this all happened over the course of about a year after moving to nyc.

 

i do notice that when i went back to sf that my problem seemed to go away for the most part, climate related i'm guessing. but to contradict that, i was just in nebraska for a week and out doors a lot. it was 20 degrees and snowing, yet my symptoms we're pretty minimal like in sf. came back to nyc and its cold right now here. within a week my symptoms came back and now my cheeks are worst than ever.

 

i'm seriously considering moving to los angeles if it would help the symptoms go away, this is intolerable.

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(@sebastianc)

Posted : 01/03/2010 4:07 pm

My SD was minimal as well and then spread throughout my face. Recently, I developed it in the axilla region.

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(@madzippy)

Posted : 01/03/2010 4:22 pm

Further Thoughts:

I think there is a strong link between acne and HFCS (high fructose corn syrup), bleached wheat and bleached rice and the increased rise of sugar levels in the SAD (standard american diet). HFCS were *invented* in Japan in 1969. Did I read correctly that SD has only been around for 30 years ... coincidental correlation?

 

The following is a must see video about HFCS and sugar. Share it with your friends. You will be smarter after watching it ...

 

 

youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM

Welcome to the boards and thanks for sharing and the reminder of the benefits of ACV. I forgotten about using ACV and will try it again.

 

I will also chime in about the link between acne and sugar. Over the holidays, I indulged in some spiced apple cider NOT to be confused with ACV. Anyway, the main ingredient is sugar and includes caramel color. While it was delicious, I developed some serious cysts and breakouts. I had been otherwise pretty clear with an occasional small zit. As soon as I stopped drinking it, my face settled down. ACV should help with the red marks too!

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(@dsrfgsertwe)

Posted : 01/07/2010 12:28 am

also about the acne/sugar link...i believe it. i've been avoiding sweets but yesterday i went to a milk bar with a bunch of old friends and figured i deserved just one milkshake for my good behavior. when i woke up the next day i could feel the SD patches before i even saw them in the mirror. probably had to do with the dairy plus the sugar.

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(@raddude)

Posted : 01/07/2010 11:04 am

Any ideas about my last post.

 

In regard to ACV, I have tried it before twice and it didn't seem to help much. Not sure why people praise it so much, I think there are better alternatives out there. I guess ti works for some, but if you have sensitive skin I doubt it will make things any better.

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(@ceci2468)

Posted : 01/07/2010 9:34 pm

has anyone noticed their sd spread or turn into rosacea?

 

first i had a small patch of skin in the fold between my nose and mouth. eventually that turned into sd on both sides of nose and fold. now my cheeks have become red and grainy in texture. this all happened over the course of about a year after moving to nyc.

 

i do notice that when i went back to sf that my problem seemed to go away for the most part, climate related i'm guessing. but to contradict that, i was just in nebraska for a week and out doors a lot. it was 20 degrees and snowing, yet my symptoms we're pretty minimal like in sf. came back to nyc and its cold right now here. within a week my symptoms came back and now my cheeks are worst than ever.

 

i'm seriously considering moving to los angeles if it would help the symptoms go away, this is intolerable.

 

Could be the water? Do you have a shower filter? If not, I understand they have some good inexpensive ones at Home Depot. ;)

 

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(@raddude)

Posted : 01/07/2010 10:36 pm

that was my thought too, so i installed filters on all my faucets, etc. the water here is extremely filtered. i'm pretty sure something in the water is causing issues with my sd, so i tried washing with store bought water for a week. i didn't notice much difference, but i might give it another go. washing with cold water definitely helps.

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(@missfig59)

Posted : 01/07/2010 10:46 pm

I just found out today that I have seborrheic dermatitis on my scalp. I've had some weird spots for a while now but I didn't think anything about it. Does anyone know if Scalpicin works well?

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(@italianboy)

Posted : 01/08/2010 5:05 pm

I just found out today that I have seborrheic dermatitis on my scalp. I've had some weird spots for a while now but I didn't think anything about it. Does anyone know if Scalpicin works well?

 

NO DON'T use steroids they are very bad for us SD sufferers. Are you sure you have SD on the first place? Who told you? 'Spots' could also be folliculitis as well as scalp acne. Also, dryness makes it worse.

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(@missfig59)

Posted : 01/08/2010 5:16 pm

They're just fairly large patches on my scalp. They're very flaky and dry. They're not itchy but I scratch them anyway just because they're annoying.

I kinda remember having similar patches as a kid but they gradually went away.

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