i saw results within 3 days. i just use water and no other soap. i wash once in the morning and once at night..

Hello everyone,

I have never posted on one of these blogs before so here it goes. I have been suffering with SD on the face for over 2 years and it really annoyed me to the point where it affected my everyday life. Through countless hours of research online, I finally found a way to control my SD on the face. Every morning and night, I wash my face with Head and Shoulders Conditioner. This keeps the SD at bay and does turn my face red like the regular H&S shampoo does. I also will spot treat the dry areas with Neutrogena healthy skin face lotion (Alpha hydroxy). Hope this helps someone out there. I had tried 30-40 different medications (RX and OTC) before this and nothing worked this well. Give it a try and see what happens.

Hi. It's probably the 1% pyrithione zinc in the H&S conditioner that's helping you. I was tempted to try ZNP bar which is 2% pyrithione zinc but then sulfur has been working for me.

Hi Joellie,

Yes, I just added pure sublimed sulfur to the shea butter. If you do do this, do not use more than 10% sulfur or you can get a chemical burn or irritation.

Yes, I apply this shea butter/sulfur after using the sulfur soap.

Ceci.

Hi Joellie,

 

Yes, I just added pure sublimed sulfur to the shea butter. If you do do this, do not use more than 10% sulfur or you can get a chemical burn or irritation.

 

Yes, I apply this shea butter/sulfur after using the sulfur soap.

 

Ceci.

thanks Ceci, did you use this immediately right from the start? Did you get this sulfur also at St Joseph?

ciao.

joel

I've had seb derm for a ten years. Stay away from steriods, unfortunate for me I didnt. Each year it got worse and covered more of my face. In the past year my face began to sting when I sweat. This never happened the first 9 years. It is now much more controlled.

I like sulfur or sulfur/salicylic based cleansers. I'd recommend Sebulex shampoo. I use the foam from shampooing on my face. I use to use a sulfur cleanser from philosophy that has been discontinued. I haven't tried sulfur masks. They maybe useful if used once a week.

Anti-fungal shampoos like nizoral, selsun blue, head&shoulders will loose the effectiveness over time. If you use them dilute them and rotate them. I found these too drying or irritating.

I haven't used coal tar like the guy from Ireland, his skin looks pretty good, I may try it.

In addition to any product for dandruff you can try products for cradle cap like Mustela Shampoo,

which has salicylic acid and Climbazole (which is and anti-fungal).

Avoid putting anything on your face containing oil or fatty acids this will increase malassezia.

When do you see a definite cure for this disease coming around. Accutane helps acne, why cant there be such a thing for Sub derm?

Why do we have to keep it under control? Why cant we just get rid of it for good. Sigh..

Ive had this for 2 years and it is worse then anything i have ever endured.

Hello, finally I have the results from the Lab metametrix.. maybe someone like to know I did ship it from Holland to the us cause they seem to be the best lab in the world. It cost me a fortune but it's good to know.

I did only mark the things out of the tests which where out of range.

2100 Gastrointestinal Function Profile

intestinal bacterial.

Bacteroides sp. 1.3 L >= 1.3 referange range 1.6 so this is low

Clostridia sp. 1.3 L >= 1.0 6.2 referange range 1.5 this is low too

‚®

Helicobacter pylori 5.8E+005 H <=1.0E+005 I think I got this one in Asia so after SD

Beneficial SCFA

Propionate % 26 H 10 - 29 ‚® %

Yeast/Fungi

Yeast/Fungi; taxonomy unavailable. +3 => 10000 pg DNA/g specimen Neg

A taxonomy unavailable finding may indicate ingested mold. The higher the number, the greater the

indication for treatment, particularly when accompanied by clinical symptoms.

Yeast/Fungi

Yeast overgrowth has been linked to many

chronic conditions, in part because of antigenic

responses in some patients to even low rates of

yeast growth. Potential symptoms include

diarrhea, headache, bloating, atopic dermatitis

and fatigue. Positives are reported as +1, +2,

+3 or +4 indicating >100, >1000, >10000 or

>100000 pg DNA/g.

Parasites

Parasite present; taxonomy unavailable. Positive Neg

A taxonomy unavailable finding likely indicates an ingested protozoan and not a human parasite. It

does not indicate treatment unless patient symptoms and other inflammatory markers are consistent

with parasite infection.

Parasites

Parasite infections are a major cause of

non-viral diarrhea. Symptoms may include

constipation, gas, bloating, increased allergy

response, colitis, nausea and distention

Porphyrins test

Copro I/Copro III 0.40 ‚® <= 0.50 0.35H

Repeated and Verified

Creatinine =374 mg/dL

The following comments pertain to abnormalities found on this report.

A high value for the Coproporphyrin I/III ratio indicates a more specific association with the toxic effects of arsenic.

Organix comprehensive profile test

Energy Production (Citric Acid Cycle)

(B comp., CoQ10, Amino acids, Mg)

Isocitrate 37L 39 - 143

Methylation Cofactor Markers

(B12, Folate)

Methylmalonate

2.2 H ‚® <= 2.3

Oxidative Damage and Antioxidant Markers

(Vitamin C and other antioxidants)

7.4 H ‚® <= 7.6 5.3

Summary of abnormal results:

Findings Intervention Options Common Metabolic Association

0091 Organixž Comprehensive Profile Methodology: LC/Tandem Mass Spectroscopy, Colorimetric

Fatty Acid Metabolism

No Abnormality Found

Carbohydrate Metabolism

No Abnormality Found

Energy Production Markers

Isocitrate Very Low Free-form amino acids Amino Acid insufficiency

B-Complex Vitamin Markers

No Abnormality Found

Methylation Cofactor Markers

Methylmalonate High B12 Adenosylcobalamin insufficiency

Neurotransmitter Metabolism Markers

No Abnormality Found

Oxidative Damage and Antioxidant Markers

8-Hydroxy-2-deoxyguanosine High Vitamin C, Vitamin E DNA oxidation product

Detoxification Indicators

No Abnormality Found

Bacterial - General

No Abnormality Found

L. acidophilus / general bacteria

No Abnormality Found

Clostridial Species

No Abnormality Found

Yeast/Fungal

No Abnormality Found

As you can see in the first test they came with dna markers of yeast but they couldn't identify the yeast. So defenitely not candida! Please let me know how you think about these findings...

As you can see in the first test they came with dna markers of yeast but they couldn't identify the yeast. So defenitely not candida! Please let me know how you think about these findings...

i guess it means god just hates us

can't some dermatologists do biopsies of your skin to see if there's fungi on it? i'd like to look into that...

my face is gettin itchy again cuz i ran out of acv and i've been too lazy to pick some up =/ i think the sulfur soap and aloe vera gel is keeping it under control, though. but i'm so damn oily!

Im seriously debating about make up at this point. This is just unbearable.

Why is this so hard to fight where we have to keep it under control, why cant we get it to go away like acne.

As you can see in the first test they came with dna markers of yeast but they couldn't identify the yeast. So defenitely not candida! Please let me know how you think about these findings...

i guess it means god just hates us

can't some dermatologists do biopsies of your skin to see if there's fungi on it? i'd like to look into that...

 

my face is gettin itchy again cuz i ran out of acv and i've been too lazy to pick some up =/ i think the sulfur soap and aloe vera gel is keeping it under control, though. but i'm so damn oily!

 

I know.. it's fucked up.. I do not know everything.. This is the almost the most far as I could go.

next week I got al my dutch lab results. I did almost all the tests there were.

still using the sulpur soap in combination now with the par tine soap. started this week. Looks better using this combination. so in the morning sulphur at night the grandpa tarpine soap.

I tried Vemma as well this week but it looks like that I got a terrible moodswing after 20 minutes drinking this product. I will continue till next week using this product.

we must stay ok. cause one day we are fine!

Im seriously debating about make up at this point. This is just unbearable.

 

Why is this so hard to fight where we have to keep it under control, why cant we get it to go away like acne.

Besides yeasts it's most likely that the skinbarrier of the skin itself is not in tact. So it's from inside out.

Everybody is looking to find a cure from the outside. So I guess we have to wait till they found out for looking inside the body!

So please do a lot of googling and search for people who have success with treating this condition from the inside and please report it here... that's a way.. try and we can talk about it.

Btw Accutane DOES help it. In fact, I've 0 SD right now. I had moderate SD before.

Btw Accutane DOES help it. In fact, I've 0 SD right now. I had moderate SD before.

For how long do you want to use this? Great that it helps you. But is it a treatment for the long run? Maybe better looking for what's wrong with the body.. I understand your situation and uderstand your idea of using this. I am afraid for drugs cause I most likely developed SD by propecia

Hi Joellie,

 

Yes, I just added pure sublimed sulfur to the shea butter. If you do do this, do not use more than 10% sulfur or you can get a chemical burn or irritation.

 

Yes, I apply this shea butter/sulfur after using the sulfur soap.

 

Ceci.

 

 

thanks Ceci, did you use this immediately right from the start? Did you get this sulfur also at St Joseph?

ciao.

joel

 

Hi Joellie. Sorry, I missed your message somehow. This shea butter/sulfur mix I made in October/November. It's working well. I bought the sulfur online from Americarx through Amazon.

Btw Accutane DOES help it. In fact, I've 0 SD right now. I had moderate SD before.

 

 

For how long do you want to use this? Great that it helps you. But is it a treatment for the long run? Maybe better looking for what's wrong with the body.. I understand your situation and uderstand your idea of using this. I am afraid for drugs cause I most likely developed SD by propecia

 

I can't decide it myself cuz I'm going to a derm...

Propecia does NOT cause SD, Alopecia Androgenetic does, though. It's because of the hormones, there is a more specific reason but I wouldn't go too far.

I'm using Accutane for Acne (moderate acne), but since I've got SD too, I guess it's 2 in 1.

I can't decide it myself cuz I'm going to a derm...

Propecia does NOT cause SD, Alopecia Androgenetic does, though. It's because of the hormones, there is a more specific reason but I wouldn't go too far.

I'm using Accutane for Acne (moderate acne), but since I've got SD too, I guess it's 2 in 1.

Hi Joellie. Sorry, I missed your message somehow. This shea butter/sulfur mix I made in October/November. It's working well. I bought the sulfur online from Americarx through Amazon.

thank you Ceci!

Has anyone tried this?

UPDATE: Just ordered some under it's EURO name SEBCLAIR. You need a prescription if you order it in the US as PROMISEB. Look forward to trying this out, sounds like the most promising thing out there to treat this condition we're all suffering from.

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Promiseb even better than Desonide 0.05%

November 26th, 2009, by Digital Davo | seborrheic dermatitis, steroids

Promiseb Topical Cream has been found to be as effective as desonide cream 0.05% when treating facial dermatitis. This is an exciting finding, especially if the results can be replicated at large in the rosacea / seborrheic dermatitis community.

Rosacea sufferers are well advised to be careful with any form of steroids because it has been shown that even over the counter steroids can cause steroid induced rosacea.

Those using the Promiseb Cream, who experienced cleared symptoms after 14 days, were more likely to stay clear for another 14 days after ceasing, compared to the Desonide Cream. This result is encouraging as it suggests that the benefit from Promiseb is more sustainable compared to even low strength topical steroids. Thus it seems from this study that Promiseb is indeed a better treatment than Desonide for mild to moderate seborrheic dermatitis.

Promiseb Topical Cream (Sebclair) is a non-steroidal, prescription only cream for the treatment of seborrheic dermatitis. It has demonstrated anti-inflammatory and anti-fungal properties. Sebclair is approved for use in the European Union to treat seborrheic dermatitis. One of Sebclairas (and now Promisebas) claims to fame is that it contains no corticosteroids or immunomodulating agents.

The ingredients of Sebclair are listed here: Sebclair for seborrheic dermatitis. See also the Promiseb Prescribing Information.

An investigator-blind, randomized, 4-week, parallel-group, multicenter pilot study to compare the safety and efficacy of a nonsteroidal cream (Promiseb Topical Cream) and desonide cream 0.05% in the twice-daily treatment of mild to moderate seborrheic dermatitis of the face.

Clin Dermatol. 2009 Nov-Dec;27(6 Suppl):S48-53., Elewski B.

The treatment of seborrheic dermatitis includes topical antifungal agents to eradicate Malassezia spp, corticosteroids, which treat the inflammatory component of the disease and keratolytics which remove scale and crust.

This study compared the efficacy of a nonsteroidal topical cream and a low-potency topical corticosteroid for the treatment of mild to moderate seborrheic dermatitis of the face in 77 volunteers randomized to twice-daily treatment with nonsteroidal cream or corticosteroid cream for up to 28 days. If the individual was rated clear by day 14, the study drug was collected and the participant was told not to use any topical products on the previously treated areas until after the 28-day follow-up visit.

Both treatments were similarly effective in reducing disease severity, with approximately 90% of participants clearing or almost clear during the study. Both treatments demonstrated significant reductions in erythema, scaling, and pruritus (P < .0001). Safety in both groups was rated as excellent in more than 90%.

Those using the nonsteroidal cream who cleared after 14 days of treatment were more likely to remain clear than were participants using the corticosteroid cream (P = .0173). [my emphasis]

Investigator global assessments of improvement found both study agents were essentially the same, and participants in both groups achieved clinically important improvement.

Has anyone tried this?

 

UPDATE: Just ordered some under it's EURO name SEBCLAIR. You need a prescription if you order it in the US as PROMISEB. Look forward to trying this out, sounds like the most promising thing out there to treat this condition we're all suffering from.

 

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Promiseb even better than Desonide 0.05%

November 26th, 2009, by Digital Davo | seborrheic dermatitis, steroids

 

 

 

Promiseb Topical Cream has been found to be as effective as desonide cream 0.05% when treating facial dermatitis. This is an exciting finding, especially if the results can be replicated at large in the rosacea / seborrheic dermatitis community.

 

Rosacea sufferers are well advised to be careful with any form of steroids because it has been shown that even over the counter steroids can cause steroid induced rosacea.

 

Those using the Promiseb Cream, who experienced cleared symptoms after 14 days, were more likely to stay clear for another 14 days after ceasing, compared to the Desonide Cream. This result is encouraging as it suggests that the benefit from Promiseb is more sustainable compared to even low strength topical steroids. Thus it seems from this study that Promiseb is indeed a better treatment than Desonide for mild to moderate seborrheic dermatitis.

 

Promiseb Topical Cream (Sebclair) is a non-steroidal, prescription only cream for the treatment of seborrheic dermatitis. It has demonstrated anti-inflammatory and anti-fungal properties. Sebclair is approved for use in the European Union to treat seborrheic dermatitis. One of Sebclairas (and now Promisebas) claims to fame is that it contains no corticosteroids or immunomodulating agents.

 

The ingredients of Sebclair are listed here: Sebclair for seborrheic dermatitis. See also the Promiseb Prescribing Information.

 

An investigator-blind, randomized, 4-week, parallel-group, multicenter pilot study to compare the safety and efficacy of a nonsteroidal cream (Promiseb Topical Cream) and desonide cream 0.05% in the twice-daily treatment of mild to moderate seborrheic dermatitis of the face.

 

Clin Dermatol. 2009 Nov-Dec;27(6 Suppl):S48-53., Elewski B.

 

The treatment of seborrheic dermatitis includes topical antifungal agents to eradicate Malassezia spp, corticosteroids, which treat the inflammatory component of the disease and keratolytics which remove scale and crust.

 

This study compared the efficacy of a nonsteroidal topical cream and a low-potency topical corticosteroid for the treatment of mild to moderate seborrheic dermatitis of the face in 77 volunteers randomized to twice-daily treatment with nonsteroidal cream or corticosteroid cream for up to 28 days. If the individual was rated clear by day 14, the study drug was collected and the participant was told not to use any topical products on the previously treated areas until after the 28-day follow-up visit.

 

Both treatments were similarly effective in reducing disease severity, with approximately 90% of participants clearing or almost clear during the study. Both treatments demonstrated significant reductions in erythema, scaling, and pruritus (P < .0001). Safety in both groups was rated as excellent in more than 90%.

 

Those using the nonsteroidal cream who cleared after 14 days of treatment were more likely to remain clear than were participants using the corticosteroid cream (P = .0173). [my emphasis]

 

Investigator global assessments of improvement found both study agents were essentially the same, and participants in both groups achieved clinically important improvement.

Tried it under the name of Sebclair (it's made in Italy) and it didn't do much. It's for MILD SD as the leaflet/site states. You can't develop resistance to it so I guess if it works for you then keep using it.

HI. It's great that the accutane is working for you. I am not fully understanding this disease what we are suffering but what I can tell you is that I can certainly say that I came along so many post on forums about SD is besides other things in most cases caused by Anti-biotics, birth control pills, Propecia, certain fitness shakes and bad long term diets. About the drugs propecia if you want I saved the urls from posts which I can link them on this site so that you are able to read there stories.

Not all people who are suffering Alopecia Androgenetic develop SD and what about all the females who are suffering this? it's true it's a hormonal thing. Estrogen ratio and some others. but as I put in a message before on this forum I mentioned that the intestinal track (the bacterial thing) can have a influence on the hormonal thing. Even toxines can block certain metablolism which have influence on hormones. But we don't know yet what the mechanism is exactly. I am waiting your reply how you feel about this. This is only my opinion

Here is my reply. This disease has been known for about 20/30 years and yet there is still nothing that cures it (just like acne..). I am fully aware that after the Accutane treatment it may come back (although it may not be as bad as before) but at least I was able to sweat without having to scratch my head every second. I dunno about the A.A thing since I, thankfully, don't have any hair disease (I've got a head full of hair lol), but, I've attended a very famous italian site for those who suffer from this 'disease' and about 3/4 of them have got SD and not all of em take Finasteride so ye..mystery.

Hey everybody...

I've managed to control my seb derm peeling and redness to the point where it's at a very manageable level. However, every morning I wake up with swelling in my cheeks and eyelids. It comes with this extremely irritating sensation in those areas (also my forehead) that feels like my skin is being stretched out. The swelling and pain slowly improve as the day goes on.

Does anyone else experience the same thing with their SD? Or can anyone recognize what's causing this?

Hello all!

Thought I'd share my experience with SD. I'm 41, male, and have had SD for over 20 years. It's only on that area between the nose and cheeks, and in and between my eyebrows. What's finally worked for me is this: wash with Cetaphil, gently go over the area with a wet cotton ball to exfoliate, and while the area is still wet massage in a couple drops of organic jojoba oil, and pat dry with a tissue.

That's it. No more itching or scaling, and the redness is significantly reduced. It's been a couple years now, and haven't even had a single flare up. It's something I picked up from Linda Sy's Vita Oil treatment (now discontinued. It was basically just jojoba oil.)

This is after years of using hydrocortisone daily (stupid, I know). Then more years of using dermatologist-prescribed desonide lotion (don't get me started on doctors). DON'T USE TOPICAL STEROIDS. It DID thin my skin, and induced rosacea on my cheeks. Strangely, I also now have rosacea on my forehead, though I never had SD there. My SD area will always be a little pink because of the thin skin there, but it's not red anymore.

I should also mention if I didn't use Head & Shoulders on my scalp, I would have dandruff like you would not believe. I used to use TGel (coal tar shampoo) with moderate success until my early 20s then switched to H&S, and haven't had a flake of dandruff since. Seriously - I'm surprised by all the people who have said you need to switch dandruff shampoos or they lose effect. That has not been the case with me.

For the Rosacea I tried numerous prescription things (Finacea, Metrogel, a couple antibiotics, other creams/gels I can't remember the names of) with zero results. But then I found just washing with Cetaphil and putting on a thin layer of tinted moisturizer/sunscreen works fairly well. At least people have stopped asking me, "oh, did you get a little too much sun?".

For the record, I eat and drink like crap and take no supplements.

~John

When I wash my face with cold water instead of hot, I find that my SD is kept more or less at bay.

any recommendations for a nice, gentle, oil-free DAYTIME facial moisturizer that won't make me look shiny or greasy? anything from the cetaphil line makes me look like a greaseball and so do coconut oil & shea butter, no matter how small an amount i try to use.

Hello all!

 

Thought I'd share my experience with SD. I'm 41, male, and have had SD for over 20 years. It's only on that area between the nose and cheeks, and in and between my eyebrows. What's finally worked for me is this: wash with Cetaphil, gently go over the area with a wet cotton ball to exfoliate, and while the area is still wet massage in a couple drops of organic jojoba oil, and pat dry with a tissue.

 

That's it. No more itching or scaling, and the redness is significantly reduced. It's been a couple years now, and haven't even had a single flare up. It's something I picked up from Linda Sy's Vita Oil treatment (now discontinued. It was basically just jojoba oil.)

 

This is after years of using hydrocortisone daily (stupid, I know). Then more years of using dermatologist-prescribed desonide lotion (don't get me started on doctors). DON'T USE TOPICAL STEROIDS. It DID thin my skin, and induced rosacea on my cheeks. Strangely, I also now have rosacea on my forehead, though I never had SD there. My SD area will always be a little pink because of the thin skin there, but it's not red anymore.

 

I should also mention if I didn't use Head & Shoulders on my scalp, I would have dandruff like you would not believe. I used to use TGel (coal tar shampoo) with moderate success until my early 20s then switched to H&S, and haven't had a flake of dandruff since. Seriously - I'm surprised by all the people who have said you need to switch dandruff shampoos or they lose effect. That has not been the case with me.

 

For the Rosacea I tried numerous prescription things (Finacea, Metrogel, a couple antibiotics, other creams/gels I can't remember the names of) with zero results. But then I found just washing with Cetaphil and putting on a thin layer of tinted moisturizer/sunscreen works fairly well. At least people have stopped asking me, "oh, did you get a little too much sun?".

 

For the record, I eat and drink like crap and take no supplements.

 

~John

thanks for the useful input john did you ever try shea butter or coconut oil and if so did you feel that they were less effective than plain ol' jojoba oil?

Hey everybody...

 

I've managed to control my seb derm peeling and redness to the point where it's at a very manageable level. However, every morning I wake up with swelling in my cheeks and eyelids. It comes with this extremely irritating sensation in those areas (also my forehead) that feels like my skin is being stretched out. The swelling and pain slowly improve as the day goes on.

 

Does anyone else experience the same thing with their SD? Or can anyone recognize what's causing this?

i've also been waking up with swelling/burning around the eyes lately (ever since the weather got cold) and this never happened until i got sd...i'd also like to hear if anyone has anything to say about this.

any recommendations for a nice, gentle, oil-free DAYTIME facial moisturizer that won't make me look shiny or greasy? anything from the cetaphil line makes me look like a greaseball and so do coconut oil & shea butter, no matter how small an amount i try to use.

 

Hello all!

 

Thought I'd share my experience with SD. I'm 41, male, and have had SD for over 20 years. It's only on that area between the nose and cheeks, and in and between my eyebrows. What's finally worked for me is this: wash with Cetaphil, gently go over the area with a wet cotton ball to exfoliate, and while the area is still wet massage in a couple drops of organic jojoba oil, and pat dry with a tissue.

 

That's it. No more itching or scaling, and the redness is significantly reduced. It's been a couple years now, and haven't even had a single flare up. It's something I picked up from Linda Sy's Vita Oil treatment (now discontinued. It was basically just jojoba oil.)

 

This is after years of using hydrocortisone daily (stupid, I know). Then more years of using dermatologist-prescribed desonide lotion (don't get me started on doctors). DON'T USE TOPICAL STEROIDS. It DID thin my skin, and induced rosacea on my cheeks. Strangely, I also now have rosacea on my forehead, though I never had SD there. My SD area will always be a little pink because of the thin skin there, but it's not red anymore.

 

I should also mention if I didn't use Head & Shoulders on my scalp, I would have dandruff like you would not believe. I used to use TGel (coal tar shampoo) with moderate success until my early 20s then switched to H&S, and haven't had a flake of dandruff since. Seriously - I'm surprised by all the people who have said you need to switch dandruff shampoos or they lose effect. That has not been the case with me.

 

For the Rosacea I tried numerous prescription things (Finacea, Metrogel, a couple antibiotics, other creams/gels I can't remember the names of) with zero results. But then I found just washing with Cetaphil and putting on a thin layer of tinted moisturizer/sunscreen works fairly well. At least people have stopped asking me, "oh, did you get a little too much sun?".

 

For the record, I eat and drink like crap and take no supplements.

 

~John

thanks for the useful input john did you ever try shea butter or coconut oil and if so did you feel that they were less effective than plain ol' jojoba oil?

 

Hey everybody...

 

I've managed to control my seb derm peeling and redness to the point where it's at a very manageable level. However, every morning I wake up with swelling in my cheeks and eyelids. It comes with this extremely irritating sensation in those areas (also my forehead) that feels like my skin is being stretched out. The swelling and pain slowly improve as the day goes on.

 

Does anyone else experience the same thing with their SD? Or can anyone recognize what's causing this?

 

i've also been waking up with swelling/burning around the eyes lately (ever since the weather got cold) and this never happened until i got sd...i'd also like to hear if anyone has anything to say about this.

 

BLEPHARITIS. look up on google. I even had to go to an opthamologist cuz I had no idea of what i had and he said it's cuz of SD...FUCK sebaceous glands.

I don't have it anymore tho cuz im on accutane =D Feels so good to run and sweat without itching.