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Repairing the long-term damage from Accutane

 
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(@dubya_b)

Posted : 03/01/2013 9:07 pm

@Robert1000- Well, if you insist on playing with fire by taking Propecia could you please report back if you have temporary resolution of your sexual side effects while on it?

A Dr. Kevin Pezzi mentioned Propecia reversed his Accutane-induced sexual side effects. This is the first and only case I'm aware of that the reversal was permanent. I have heard a few stories of Propecia making the sexual side effects of Accutane worse.

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(@oli-girl)

Posted : 03/01/2013 10:53 pm

Hi guys!

I tried so many suppliments, no result. Eating healthy with no result. Detox with no result.

My eyes get irritated 2-3 times a day, the pain its so big, its a hell. Eye drops doesnt help at all.

I lost about 80% of my eyebrows, now i only have few hairs there....looks like shit, there's not sign of new ones growing.

On the head, in the temples area, the hair is receidding alot, also in the center of the head.

I'm really tired. I'm gonna go on PROPECIA.

Has anyone tried Propecia here? does it really work for accutane hair loss? please reply me. thanks guys.

Did you ever go back to a physican and have lab work that you asked me about? such as hormones etc... I know your desperate, but I wouldn't jump so quick to propecia!

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(@movingon)

Posted : 03/01/2013 11:05 pm

Ummm has any female here noticed that many of our symptoms are strikingly similar to Estrogen Dominance? Not to get too out there, but i think somehow the thyroid might not cut it...I think something more hormonal is going on! For example, birth control made me SOOO ill. I've only been off it for about 4 or 5 days but i already feel a bit better.

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(@camaroz28)

Posted : 03/02/2013 12:53 am

You used to be a pretty girl and now you're not. Diet could be a major factor. Do the fast and find out. If you feel better, you know your "healthy" diet was wrong.

This is insane; I can't believe people will allow others to behave this way. Any difference that you perceive is no where near as clearly demonstrable as you state.

 

I'm really tired. I'm gonna go on PROPECIA.

Has anyone tried Propecia here? does it really work for accutane hair loss? please reply me. thanks guys.

This is insane. This is the only reply that you could theoretically and practically receive which you should heed.

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(@josephbuchignani)

Posted : 03/02/2013 2:08 am

There are definitely hormonal involvements for some. I think Accutane weakens detox mechanisms, which makes trying pharmaceuticals quite dangerous. My hormones are fine on a proper diet. I'm doing quite well these last few days.

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(@camaroz28)

Posted : 03/02/2013 2:28 am

There are definitely hormonal involvements for some. I think Accutane weakens detox mechanisms, which makes trying pharmaceuticals quite dangerous. My hormones are fine on a proper diet. I'm doing quite well these last few days.

Telling that girl she was once attractive, but not any longer was messed up (untrue). This is the type of garbage (no shortage of it) that keeps me interested in this thread; there is no way anyone here is going to reverse anything. The only prescription should be anti-diarrheals for peoples' mouths.

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(@josephbuchignani)

Posted : 03/02/2013 2:38 am

So your approach of minimizing and failing to recognize her pain is somehow more sensitive. Not to mention denying hope. I'll be sure to accord your medical and moral opinions the respect they deserve.

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(@acne1776)

Posted : 03/02/2013 2:48 am

Telling that girl she was once attractive, but not any longer was messed up (untrue). This is the type of garbage (no shortage of it) that keeps me interested in this thread; there is no way anyone here is going to reverse anything. The only prescription should be anti-diarrheals for peoples' mouths.

It's funny you say that after people have found things that have in fact helped. If you want to be a defeatist keep it to yourself so people who are actually trying to get better don't have to listen to your loser attitude.

 

Hi guys!

I tried so many suppliments, no result. Eating healthy with no result. Detox with no result.

My eyes get irritated 2-3 times a day, the pain its so big, its a hell. Eye drops doesnt help at all.

I lost about 80% of my eyebrows, now i only have few hairs there....looks like shit, there's not sign of new ones growing.

On the head, in the temples area, the hair is receidding alot, also in the center of the head.

I'm really tired. I'm gonna go on PROPECIA.

Has anyone tried Propecia here? does it really work for accutane hair loss? please reply me. thanks guys.

Dude i've done a lot of research on propecia and i wouldn't take that stuff for any amount of money in the world.

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(@camaroz28)

Posted : 03/02/2013 3:07 am

So your approach of minimizing and failing to recognize her pain is somehow more sensitive. Not to mention denying hope. I'll be sure to accord your medical and moral opinions the respect they deserve.

She hasnt succumbed to mediocrity vis-a-vis her aesthetics as you explicitly stated. She is obviously suicidal and you dont indulge someones misguided, ill-informed perceptions because it serves your ego trip. I think I liked it more when you would paraphrase and cut and paste garbage from self-help books to seem intelligent. It was always clear to anyone with half a brain that you were too inept to author any of it; now, on the other hand your attempts at attention seeking clearly need to be curbed.

 

Dude i've done a lot of research on propecia and i wouldn't take that stuff for any amount of money in the world

Dude. What a way to contribute.

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(@josephbuchignani)

Posted : 03/02/2013 3:16 am

So basically, you think I'm not smart enough to be writing what I'm writing. Aw, is that a compliment?

Plus, you have no idea how depression and suicide works. It is much easier to accept a loss, and work towards the hope of regaining, than to resist acceptance of a loss, and be constantly reminded of it. Agency = happiness, resistance = pain, irrational optimism = adaptive.

But hey, I must've copy pasted that.

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(@camaroz28)

Posted : 03/02/2013 3:45 am

So basically, you think I'm not smart enough to be writing what I'm writing. Aw, is that a compliment?

Plus, you have no idea how depression and suicide works. It is much easier to accept a loss, and work towards the hope of regaining, than to resist acceptance of a loss, and be constantly reminded of it. Agency = happiness, resistance = pain, irrational optimism = adaptive.

But hey, I must've copy pasted that.

I dont think anything you author is noteworthy, but I do miss the days when your penchant for cutting and pasting was demonstrably irrepressible. You have toned it down on recommendation. You now seek attention by openly declaring your fictitious IQ; and, now you have taken to openly calling people out for what they are not. Please, rigorously explain via the pictures how the attractive girl is no more.

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(@josephbuchignani)

Posted : 03/02/2013 3:53 am

Whereas I have no idea who you are, nor care.

Demonstrably, what a big word. Then why don't you demonstrate.

In like spirit, I will comply with your request: the lady's own words are sufficient.

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(@camaroz28)

Posted : 03/02/2013 4:25 am

Demonstrably, what a big word. Then why don't you demonstrate.

In like spirit, I will comply with your request: the lady's own words are sufficient.

You have to demonstrate what was so obvious in the pictures that led to a relegation of "no longer a pretty girl." Come on Chachi, backup what you said. We know all about young ladies and misconstrued self-perception (an epidemic), now explain your hand in the matter.

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(@josephbuchignani)

Posted : 03/02/2013 4:47 am

First you feign concern that I've been insensitive by agreeing with someone's self assessment, then you try to incite me to criticize her appearance in great detail. You're disgusting.

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(@camaroz28)

Posted : 03/02/2013 5:15 am

On 3/2/2013 at 5:47 PM, JosephBuchignani said:

First you feign concern that I've been insensitive by agreeing with someone's self assessment, then you try to incite me to criticize her appearance in great detail. You're disgusting.

Just like I thought: you are a nut. You can't pin your sick behaviour on anyone but yourself; gutless attempt on the failed reversal.[Edited image out] Indigo clearly said he couldn't see much difference; that was not enough for you. You don't condone what is clearly untrue.

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(@josephbuchignani)

Posted : 03/02/2013 5:30 am

By your logic, unwillingness to demonstrate is incapability. Thus, you are unable to demonstrate my copy pasting. A crooked man can't think straight, but is always self defeating.

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(@camaroz28)

Posted : 03/02/2013 5:47 am

By your logic, unwillingness to demonstrate is incapability. Thus, you are unable to demonstrate my copy pasting. A crooked man can't think straight, but is always self defeating.

No one can see a clear difference in the pictures; normal people haven't commented at all, because there are clearly misperception issues. You decided to ignore the misperception (quite common for people to have about themselves), but rather condoned it. Who hurt you Joe? Why the skeleton image? Nut.

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(@josephbuchignani)

Posted : 03/02/2013 5:52 am

Why, that is lord biomechanics, by whom we here are all most grievously affected, my irate fellow.

I suggest a 24 hour fast; it would calm you down tremendously.

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(@camaroz28)

Posted : 03/02/2013 6:05 am

On 3/2/2013 at 6:52 PM, JosephBuchignani said:

Why, that is lord biomechanics, by whom we here are all most grievously affected, my irate fellow.

I suggest a 24 hour fast; it would calm you down tremendously.

O.K. Skeletor [Edited image out]. It actually makes a great deal of sense: a seemingly grown man burdened with the mind of a 10 year old. You elide till the end.

I'll leave you to ruminate in your prepubescent fantasy land. You should keep an eye out for He-Man and caffeinated chickens.

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(@josephbuchignani)

Posted : 03/02/2013 6:21 am

And how, poor Yorick, do you propose I avoid elision when speaking over the head of someone who thinks He-man when he sees a memento mori?

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(@robert1000)

Posted : 03/02/2013 6:31 am

 

Hi guys!

I tried so many suppliments, no result. Eating healthy with no result. Detox with no result.

My eyes get irritated 2-3 times a day, the pain its so big, its a hell. Eye drops doesnt help at all.

I lost about 80% of my eyebrows, now i only have few hairs there....looks like shit, there's not sign of new ones growing.

On the head, in the temples area, the hair is receidding alot, also in the center of the head.

I'm really tired. I'm gonna go on PROPECIA.

Has anyone tried Propecia here? does it really work for accutane hair loss? please reply me. thanks guys.

Did you ever go back to a physican and have lab work that you asked me about? such as hormones etc... I know your desperate, but I wouldn't jump so quick to propecia!

Oli Girl, i think i posted somewhere in here my hormonal results :

LH - 6.6

Prolactin - 222

FT4 - 20

TSH 1.15

Testosteron 19.09

The endocrinologist told me that, according to these results, my thyroid is fine. But i'm sure i have a hormonal problem, all the symptoms lead to hormonal problems. But what should i do?? Which tests should i do next??

Could i have diabetics? or some autoimune disease? which test should i do to check the pituitary gland?

I really dont know what should i do.....suppliments doesnt help at all....

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(@josephbuchignani)

Posted : 03/02/2013 6:36 am

Oh good. Speaking of caffeinated chickens...
Factory farming in China is even worse than the US. The cheapest chicken in the US may come from China. Grain feeding increases omega 6/3 ratio. This leads directly to heart disease, among many other inflammation-related problems
The correct paleo ratio is 1:1, or at most 1:4, as shown in the papers above.
American factory chicken has an omega 6/3 ratio of 12.8; pork is 31, according to http://nutritiondata.self.com
Chinese ratio is probably worse. Going to a wet market doesn't change this; it just means the meat may have also be sprayed with acid to make it look shinier. Or in America, going to a local butcher doesn't help unless he tells you the meat is grass fed and free range.
The solution? Supermarket live fish (preferably herbivorous) (frozen will also work). Tilapia and catfish work. These fish have a ratio at or near 1:1.
Regarding dairy:
The ratio in milk from grain-fed cows is ok, if not amazing:
1.6
Yoghurt is a little bit worse, but still within acceptable range:
2.4
The ratio of butter is pretty bad:
8.66
Obviously eggs from factory chickens are bad for similar reasons. And so on.
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(@camaroz28)

Posted : 03/02/2013 7:12 am

And how, poor Yorick, do you propose I avoid elision when speaking over the head of someone who thinks He-man when he sees a memento mori?

Well, to begin with I think you are a little too enamored with the inevitability of death: it perhaps why you talk so incessantly without any forethought. Everyone dies Joe; it shouldnt give you license to say whatever you want. As far as you talking over head, I don't think the people here want any insight into your bedroom antics. Dirty talk should be preceding or proceeding, not during the act. You have enough trouble just talking without getting your tongue caught. Im out.

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(@josephbuchignani)

Posted : 03/02/2013 7:18 am

Yes, those immature Stoics. Weren't you already out? Ah, the inevitable descent into foulness.

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(@camaroz28)

Posted : 03/02/2013 7:29 am

Yes, those immature Stoics. Weren't you already out? Ah, the inevitable descent into foulness.

Yes, it's elision again, but only the first time I have done it. You were eliding as usual, so I wanted you to be on the receiving end (not being foul); it's weak, just like I implied. Again Joe, this preoccupation with death: who hurt you snowball? What is it that you can't get accomplished in this life? I'm really out this time; you are too much fun.

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