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^i'm only going to respond to parts of michelle's post because i don't feel like writing a novel right now
he never said all doctors were in the industry for profits. however doctors know far less than they should about drugs i.e. accutane, propecia etc. which have lasting severe side effects but are being prescribed by a bunch of pimple poppers. i convinced my new dermatologist to let me try nicotinamide after quitting accutane and she pretty much promised me it wouldn't work because they don't teach about it in med school. haven't had a cyst in about 4 years (although i get normal pimples still). also 5 htp is proven to be more effective at curing depression than SSRI's. but why don't psychiatrists prescribe it? because as an amino acid, it is unpatentable so there is no money in it. whether you want to admit it or not the medical industry is fucked. using common sense cannabis oil has the same side effects as weed.... so pretty much none other than laziness, sleepiness, munchies etc.
there are studies showing that cannabis kills cancer cells not sure what you are talking about. also there are studies showing it promotes neurogenesis, improves thyroid function, helps with MS, autism, blood pressure, diabetes etc. Basically it does look like natures all healing medicine. And he is saying that it helped him cure HIS symptoms not making some assumption that it may help with accutane side effects.
cannabis oil is well studied considering they sell it in medical marijuana dispensaries and there are no other compounds in it. you clearly know nothing about accutane OR cannabis oil. Not sure why you are even here to be honest.
Another question: does anybody experience muscle twitching? (Bizarre, I know!) Or is this something totally unrelated.
I feel like Accutane seriously f***d my mind up and is messing with my psychosomatic health. Meaning I am producing physical symptoms without an underlying cause (such as tinnitus, visual snow and this twitching), because my mind is such a depressed/anxious mess. Do you guys know what I mean?
Hey Julisss
I had some strange twitching in my left leg for a while for about a month or so then it went away , not sure if it's related likely is I started taking
BAXYL (liquid hyaluronic acid) and it went away , it seems my body was just super dehydrated ie. muscles , joints , eyes etc.
Accutane definently messes with your mind no question if you look at the pictures ( MRI) I posted a few pages back there is a link , it clearly
shows how it alters the brain chemistry , that is a proven fact. Staying away from alcohol is also a good idea it definitely worsens side effects.
SSRI's wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole lol... the last thing I need is more side effects and another synthetic drug(s) messing with my mind.
I have used St Johns wort oil with good results , for me if it's not natural or herbal medicine I won't touch it. If cannabis oil helps people that's great.
And I think it does , a lot of people have reported great success with it's use even for cancer from what I have read. There are many natural cures
out there that Big Pharma doesn't want us to know about ....
I agree / disagree with many statements on her post above and I too don't feel like writing a novel - I could write a novel regarding my rather strong opinion on the state of the medical system and Big Pharma (at least on behalf of the United States where I reside) - but that's not the purpose of this forum as I'm sure many who post on this forum are all too painfully aware of how screwed up the system is. I come to this forum to read about how fellow sufferers treat their accutane side effects and contribute when I can.
It goes without saying you have to take everything you read on the Internet with a grain of salt. There's no one size-fits-all solution, treatments that have worked for some people have failed for others. Plus the people who post on this forum suffer from a wide range of accutane side effects - most of which have been studied and proven to be possible accutane side effects - not going to argue with anyone here.
I will await AccutaneIsPoison's response to clarify / defend his claims. I do recall his original postings last summer (around June 2012) where he posted many of his symptoms after taking accutane. Refer to page 68 of this forum. If he appeared to be a pharmeceutical rep trying to promote some Merck or Glaxosmithkline drug rep I'd be far more sceptical. As I mentioned before, the one statement was over the top but it doesn't appear to me like he's trying to sell anything and he did post some backup to his claims. If he did indeed recover using a type of cannabis oil then that is truly remarkable and I am grateful he returned to the forum to post his experience. It blows my mind that an outsider would suddenly appear and demand he present "irrifutable evidence" to his claim.
While I certainly agree that people shouldn't blindly jump to conclusions and do their own research first. However my response to being to refered to as "most desperate people" who supposedly "wouldn't think about that before trying a new treatment" is this. I'd like to believe those of us on this forum who have been damaged by a dangerous drug like accutane WOULD THINK before trying any new treatment. There, I'm done.
Happy Holidays everyone.
Another question: does anybody experience muscle twitching? (Bizarre, I know!) Or is this something totally unrelated.
I feel like Accutane seriously f***d my mind up and is messing with my psychosomatic health. Meaning I am producing physical symptoms without an underlying cause (such as tinnitus, visual snow and this twitching), because my mind is such a depressed/anxious mess. Do you guys know what I mean?
Hey Julisss
I had some strange twitching in my left leg for a while for about a month or so then it went away , not sure if it's related likely is I started taking
BAXYL (liquid hyaluronic acid) and it went away , it seems my body was just super dehydrated ie. muscles , joints , eyes etc.
Accutane definently messes with your mind no question if you look at the pictures ( MRI) I posted a few pages back there is a link , it clearly
shows how it alters the brain chemistry , that is a proven fact. Staying away from alcohol is also a good idea it definitely worsens side effects.
SSRI's wouldn't touch them with a ten foot pole lol... the last thing I need is more side effects and another synthetic drug(s) messing with my mind.
I have used St Johns wort oil with good results , for me if it's not natural or herbal medicine I won't touch it. If cannabis oil helps people that's great.
And I think it does , a lot of people have reported great success with it's use even for cancer from what I have read. There are many natural cures
out there that Big Pharma doesn't want us to know about ....
I meant to respond to your post - see my response above.
^i'm only going to respond to parts of michelle's post because i don't feel like writing a novel right now
he never said all doctors were in the industry for profits. however doctors know far less than they should about drugs i.e. accutane, propecia etc. which have lasting severe side effects but are being prescribed by a bunch of pimple poppers. i convinced my new dermatologist to let me try nicotinamide after quitting accutane and she pretty much promised me it wouldn't work because they don't teach about it in med school. haven't had a cyst in about 4 years (although i get normal pimples still). also 5 htp is proven to be more effective at curing depression than SSRI's. but why don't psychiatrists prescribe it? because as an amino acid, it is unpatentable so there is no money in it. whether you want to admit it or not the medical industry is fucked. using common sense cannabis oil has the same side effects as weed.... so pretty much none other than laziness, sleepiness, munchies etc.
there are studies showing that cannabis kills cancer cells not sure what you are talking about. also there are studies showing it promotes neurogenesis, improves thyroid function, helps with MS, autism, blood pressure, diabetes etc. Basically it does look like natures all healing medicine. And he is saying that it helped him cure HIS symptoms not making some assumption that it may help with accutane side effects.
cannabis oil is well studied considering they sell it in medical marijuana dispensaries and there are no other compounds in it. you clearly know nothing about accutane OR cannabis oil. Not sure why you are even here to be honest.
There's a reason good doctors don't like prescribing drugs that hasn't been taught in medical school: for drugs to be part of standard care, they have to go under intense scrutiny. Not just for effectiveness, but for safety and possible interaction with other drugs. However, doctors don't stop learning after they graduate and they do change treatment plans.
5-HTP itself can't be patented -- it's like someone trying to patent Greek mythology. However, the formulations themselves can be patented. Take statins for example. There's a broad range of statins, but there are some that occur in nature, like pravastatin and lovastatin which are fermentation-derived. Because the pharmaceutical companies can patent the formulation (like how it's time-released, and the other things that can make the drug bioavailable), the pharmaceutical companies can still sell naturally-derived statins. Yes, I can't claim Greek mythology was my idea, but I could write original characters and plot and patent the story. See what I mean? And the formulation-patent law also explains why you'll see several companies selling milk thistle and other herbs OTC.
On the 5-HTP effectiveness: take a look at the studies themselves. Having treatment XYZ "proven to be better than ABC" means little if the study quality isn't good. 5-HTP has potential because it can cross the blood-brain barrier unlike seritonin, but it has been proven to be no better than the placebo. This kind of goes into the debate about placebos and depression, but in short 5-HTP's effects have been overstated and taking OTC 5-HTP can be dangerous as there aren't strict standardization and safety laws when selling OTC supplements.
Cannabis oil may not have the same side effects as smoking weed because of mode of delivery, bioavaliability, and the other substances in the pill versus smoking. For example, applying hyaluronic acid won't have the same effects as injecting it -- hyaluronic acid may moisturize, but it won't fill up the wrinkles.
"Cannabis kills cancer cells" -- in what? Test tube studies or in actual patients? This is a huge difference. What kind of cancer cells and in what dosage? I've read the studies, but like I've said before it's only in rats and test tubes. Do you know for a fact those other studies are of high quality and aren't biased?
Also, if he was only saying that cannabis oil cured him, why did he go through such extraordinary lengths in his posts and then stated "THIS IS THE CURE" and "JUST ABOUT CURES EVERY MEDICAL ISSUE"? What was wrong with X helped me/this was my cure and leaving it at that? Writing "THIS IS THE CURE" strongly implies it would apply to everyone.
I know much about Accutane and cannabis oil, more than you think I do. I know some people need repeat courses because they may not be consuming enough fat with their course (500-600 calories from fat), and some expect immediate effects and discontinue it. I know people shy away from Accutane, reading all sorts of horror stories about it (and they assume to be true when you can't know for a fact), and when some go on it after reading said horror stories they experience nocebo effects. I know that cannabis is great for marketing, as it's "herbal/all natural" and it already has the appeal because it's a federally banned, and the side effects are subtle because it mostly affects the mind, which people won't exactly pick up on. I know that marketers scaremonger about "synthetic" drug XYZ to push people into "safer" and "natural" alternatives and give them false hopes. And I also know that reality sometime isn't nice and people want easy answers and fast solutions, which mainstream medicine can't always provide because it's highly complex and takes intense study. But alternative medicine "can" and it tells people what they want to hear rather they need to hear. Testimonals are powerful and can so very easily be false. No one wants to admit they're wrong, and a few people want their experiences to be true. Of course, that's not always the case. However few people actually take the time to study and look for other answers not based on emotions.
@michelle in regards to 5-htp you are either completely misinformed or just making up the fact that it is proven to be no different than the placebo. you are probably confusing its studies in regards to depression with its studies in effectiveness treating HEADACHES for which it is proven to be no different than the placebo.
this has gotten off topic. someone claims they have gotten better with cannabis oil and although there are no studies that you seem to be obsessed with it is still promising to hear. additionally it is insensitive of you to come on a thread of people suffering from debilitating side effects from accutane and claim they are simply "nocebo" effects. Accutane is proven to alter brain function as well as serve as an anti-androgen and you are clearly unaware of this information as you claim it can only cause permanent side effects like "joint-pain" after long term use.
If you are just here to convince people we aren't actually suffering side effects or just to spew medical jargon to act like a doctor then you are wasting your time and i am done responding to your posts.
as soon as i can raise the money to buy enough cannabis i am going to give the oil a try and report my results
in the meantime I am going to start juice fasting or at the very least consuming mainly nothing but juice and no animal fats and see how thta goes
Has anybody tried juice fasting and seen positive results?
On 12/27/2012 at 8:57 AM, Darran said:For people suffering from ED, loss of libido as a result of accutne check out this forum: [Edited link out]
Good forum - lots of good research. I recently posted a few questions there.
On 12/27/2012 at 11:37 AM, starrfeesh said:as soon as i can raise the money to buy enough cannabis i am going to give the oil a try and report my results
in the meantime I am going to start juice fasting or at the very least consuming mainly nothing but juice and no animal fats and see how thta goes
Has anybody tried juice fasting and seen positive results?
Juice fasting is actually on my list to try. I've only read random reports of accutane sufferers who've tried a juice fast, their symptoms disappearing during the fast only to reappear after refeeding.
If you don't mind me asking, what side effects are you suffering from?
Michelle has nothing useful to say. She just wants to be tediously pedantic about someone else's enthusiasm. The solution is simple: click your profile on the upper right of the screen, click "manage ignore prefs", and add her user name. Then let her talk to herself all she wants.
Now, here are some relevant studies about Cannabis, from here: http://www.greenmedinfo.com/substance/cannabis
There are so many relevant ones that I stopped attempting to list them. What's below is more than enough to silence Michelle's skepticism about the justification for the term "miracle". Nothing remains but for us to try it, and ignore the background noise from would-be nannies.
I've been in America for the last few months, and not doing as well. Recently I discovered that most American frozen meat has sodium triphosphate added, and that I'm strongly allergic to it. Literally - if I eat a lot, my face reddens and puffs up.
Usually the reaction is less noticeable - fatigue and rings under the eyes, followed by bowel pain.
In China I was eating fresh meat, not frozen. If meat says it has "broth" or "flavoring" added, you can be sure it contains wheat, sugar and sodium triphosphate. Watch your labels.
Cheers,
JB
Cannabis appears to have some therapeutic value (based on self-reporting) amongst patients with inflammatory bowel disease.
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Article Published Date : Jul 26, 2011
Study Type : Human Study
Cannabis may have therapeutic value in the treatment of Tourette syndrome.
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Cannabis may improve pain, mood and sleep in some patients with chronic pain.
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Article Published Date : Jun 01, 2002
Cannabis reduces symptoms in patients with fibromyalgia.
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Article Published Date : Jan 01, 2011
Cannabis use significantly reduces symptoms, and reduces the requirements for drugs and surgery in subjects with Crohn's disease.
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Article Published Date : Aug 01, 2011
Delta-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC) and cannabidiol have therapeutic value in the management of spasticity associated wtih multiple sclerosis.
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THC is effective and safe in the treatment of tics.
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Article Published Date : Apr 01, 2003
Cannabinoids inhibit glioma (brain cancer) through the down-regulation of Tissue Inhibitors of Metalloproteinases (TIMPs).
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Article Published Date : Jan 01, 2008
Cannabidiol attenuates cardiac dysfunction, oxidative stress, fibrosis, and inflammatory and cell death signaling pathways in diabetic cardiomyopathy.
Pubmed Data : J Am Coll Cardiol. 2010 Dec 14;56(25):2115-25. PMID: 21144973
Article Published Date : Dec 14, 2010
Cannabidiol inhibits lung cancer cell invasion and metastasis via intercellular adhesion molecule-1.
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Article Published Date : Apr 01, 2012
Cannabidiol, a non-psychoactive component from Cannabis sativa, may have a therapeutic role in ameloriating cognitive and motor impairments associated with chronic liver disease.
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Article Published Date : Sep 01, 2009
Cannabidiol, a nonpsychoactive compound from cannabis, exhibits neuroprotective properties in binge ethanol-induced brain injury.
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Article Published Date : Aug 01, 2005
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Article Published Date : Apr 30, 2009
Cannabinoids have anti-tumoral action against liver cancer.
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Article Published Date : Sep 01, 2010
Cannabinoids may have therapeutic value in neurodegenerative conditions by preventing and/or reducing neuroinflammation.
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Article Published Date : Feb 22, 2007
THC and cannabidiol may have therapeutic value in reducing damage and inflammation associated with colitis.
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Article Published Date : Jun 01, 2010
I looked at Accutaneispoison's old post on page 68, and he describes
- brain fog
- sexual dysfunction
- diarrhea like IBS
all being instantly alleviated and improve by a tiny dose of smoked cannabis or cannabis oil, it's not quite clear which. He couldn't afford a larger dose then, but apparently now he has secured more and is doing great.
I find it entirely plausible that the endocannabinoid system may be the antidote to our vitamin A poisoning. THC oil is at the top of my "to acquire" list.
On 12/27/2012 at 12:01 PM, TaneAbomination said:On 12/27/2012 at 8:57 AM, Darran said:For people suffering from ED, loss of libido as a result of accutne check out this forum: [Edited link out]
Good forum - lots of good research. I recently posted a few questions there.
On 12/27/2012 at 11:37 AM, starrfeesh said:as soon as i can raise the money to buy enough cannabis i am going to give the oil a try and report my results
in the meantime I am going to start juice fasting or at the very least consuming mainly nothing but juice and no animal fats and see how thta goes
Has anybody tried juice fasting and seen positive results?
Juice fasting is actually on my list to try. I've only read random reports of accutane sufferers who've tried a juice fast, their symptoms disappearing during the fast only to reappear after refeeding.
If you don't mind me asking, what side effects are you suffering from?
ive been off of accutane for about 6 years now and many of the side effects have tapered off such as dry lips/skin but unfortunately the bad ones remain such as always being tired and bouts of depression and anxiety. went through panic attack for about 2 years and those have disappeared... overall though just not feeling comfortable in my own skin and a lot of brain fog and memory loss. It also seems that I dont properly digest/absorb food and deal with constipation often. I think the malabsorption probably contributes to the lack of energy...
A juice fast is supposed to be a detox/reboot for the GI tract so Im really hoping this will help resolve or atleast lessen many of the side effects.. I want to do the fast for atleast 10 days and see what the results are.
From what ive learned from research the juice fast allows you GI tract to clear everything out and then afterwards just have a rest from constant digestion. It takes A LOT of vegetables/fruits to just make one juice but it is loaded with micro nutrients that nourish the body and puts no stress on digestive system allowing the body to focus on healing itself as opposed to dealing with the "junk" that many of us are guilty of putting in our bodies on a daily basis..
I've also done hours of research (a lot of it being anecdotal sorry michelle) on "rick simpson oil" and from all ive gathered it seems to nearly be a cure all and at the very least cannot do any damage. only trouble is actually getting your hands on the oil because unless you can grow it then youre going to have to pay a lot of money for the amount it takes... and growing is not an option where i ilve so im saving up enough to atleast get a couple ounces
The accutane documentary on the BBC has made its way to the daily mail website now....
People like Michelle.... Why do they come here?
Anyway, for me and the majority of you guys, Rick Simpson (Cannabis) Oil is probably not going to be easy (or even possible) to get.
I partly agree with Michelle on Accutaneispoison's overuse of CAPITAL LETTERS.
I've been conned into believing things before, and if there was any way he'd be getting money from us, it'd look like a typical marketing advert.
I'm not saying it's not worked for him (Why would he lie) but normally if something sounds too good to be true (a 'Cure-all), it is.
Starrfeesh, your issues pretty much are in line with mine. Roughly the same time period, too.
The whole digestion thing is a mystery, but clearly could be causing a lot of issues.
I have a great book on juicing, and should be using my juicer more, but like you said the cost is pretty high in order to have a few juices daily.
It scares me a little when I hear that others have tried juice fasting without good results (Chico, from this forum, for example) because it just SHOULD work.
Can't hurt anyway.
Personally, I think all we can do right now is do what obviously is good for us.
Forgive me for repeating, but I think it's important:
1) Blood-sugar balance. Clearly a problem for many. Protein with each meal (doesn't HAVE to be meat) is important. Not having a lot of sugar in one meal is sensible.
2) Keeping active, in a way that is doable. I don't think we should push ourselves, personally. But keeping active is great for stress-relief and we all know our legs weren't meant for sitting. I think long walks are the best form, as well as perhaps some weightlifting (nothing too heavy). I want to start getting my heart-rate going, so I can build stamina and fitness again.
3) Eating regularly... Again, this is important for blood-sugar balance, and is also a good way to ensure your body is getting enough nutrients. With our digestive issues, it's debatable whether or not fasting (even short term) is a good idea. I don't think we have regular constipation, because clearly the issue isn't resolved with fibre and a good diet. Also, eating regularly is important for metabolism. With adrenal fatigue and hypothyroidism, skipping meals could cause issues.
4) Getting away from all of 'this'. Personally, I'm reading an AWESOME series called CHERUB, by Robert Muchamore. It's a teenage-spy series and probably better than Alex Rider (which is also rad). Currently on the 6th book: The Fall. Reading is a good way to slow down and it's nice to go to another World. I could recommend other books...
That'll do for now. We all know stress is a big issue, but we can't exactly rid ourselves of it.
I still think the affirmation 'I can handle whatever happens' is good to repeat.
Also 'I love myself' could be something to keep 'in mind' because it's very easy to start hating yourself when you do work very well anymore.
I hope everyone had a nice time with family at Christmas.
Make sure not to forget the one lesson this drug has taught us - Things are precious, so don't take them for granted.
Be grateful in any way you can.
S
On 12/27/2012 at 2:27 PM, starrfeesh said:On 12/27/2012 at 12:01 PM, TaneAbomination said:On 12/27/2012 at 8:57 AM, Darran said:For people suffering from ED, loss of libido as a result of accutne check out this forum: [Edited link out]
Good forum - lots of good research. I recently posted a few questions there.
On 12/27/2012 at 11:37 AM, starrfeesh said:as soon as i can raise the money to buy enough cannabis i am going to give the oil a try and report my results
in the meantime I am going to start juice fasting or at the very least consuming mainly nothing but juice and no animal fats and see how thta goes
Has anybody tried juice fasting and seen positive results?
Juice fasting is actually on my list to try. I've only read random reports of accutane sufferers who've tried a juice fast, their symptoms disappearing during the fast only to reappear after refeeding.
If you don't mind me asking, what side effects are you suffering from?
ive been off of accutane for about 6 years now and many of the side effects have tapered off such as dry lips/skin but unfortunately the bad ones remain such as always being tired and bouts of depression and anxiety. went through panic attack for about 2 years and those have disappeared... overall though just not feeling comfortable in my own skin and a lot of brain fog and memory loss. It also seems that I dont properly digest/absorb food and deal with constipation often. I think the malabsorption probably contributes to the lack of energy...
A juice fast is supposed to be a detox/reboot for the GI tract so Im really hoping this will help resolve or atleast lessen many of the side effects.. I want to do the fast for atleast 10 days and see what the results are.
From what ive learned from research the juice fast allows you GI tract to clear everything out and then afterwards just have a rest from constant digestion. It takes A LOT of vegetables/fruits to just make one juice but it is loaded with micro nutrients that nourish the body and puts no stress on digestive system allowing the body to focus on healing itself as opposed to dealing with the "junk" that many of us are guilty of putting in our bodies on a daily basis..
I've also done hours of research (a lot of it being anecdotal sorry michelle) on "rick simpson oil" and from all ive gathered it seems to nearly be a cure all and at the very least cannot do any damage. only trouble is actually getting your hands on the oil because unless you can grow it then youre going to have to pay a lot of money for the amount it takes... and growing is not an option where i ilve so im saving up enough to atleast get a couple ounces
My wife has completed a couple of short (1 week) juice fasts. She swears by them, says they've helped her calm her anxiety and nerves (no, she never took accutane.) I also drink fresh juice, but have not tried juice fasting. I have read that it is better to juice vegetables rather than fruit for healing purposes. Good luck, report back if it helps.
Regarding the Rick Simpson oil, I have the same problem. In the state where I live, if you're caught growing over 20 grams of pot, you can face up to five years prison. Would be really tragic if I wound up in prison alongside society's evil-doers and all because I attempted to reverse my accutane side effects!
Yeah Happy New Year to all of you!
argh it's a shame I don't have access to the doc on BBC.......... Why is that? Do I have to sign in or is it depending on in what country you live?
Someone posted a link to it on youtube. I can't remember what pg...Try googling it....It might come up.
Ok...
Yes there are side effects while you are on Roaccutane [Why it has 2 names i will never fucking know]
I was on it in 1991,for 6 months, 40 mgs for 4 months then 60mgs for 2 months.
I had Acne/Vulgaris "BAD" and it cleared me up completely for 20 years. I will get to why im back on it later.
After the treatment id say about a year later i started having trouble sleeping.
I will never know if it is related? Still suffer from it now and it sucks but it is what it is.
I then started having depression but i was always a depressed kid and teenager and then young adult.
No idea if they are related or if the Roaccutane made then worse.
I know for sure i was A LOT happier when my skin cleared up.
As for sexual side effects back in 1991 i can't tell you because i wouldn't get naked for someone back then for all the money in the world
because i had such awful body acne.
All i know it i sure made up for lost time in the sex department.
I know IndigoRush is concerned with ED/Libido, trust me you will be ok.
I have been on a low dose 20mgs daily of Roaccutane since August last year for "ACNE/ROSACEA" now this is where you get break out or just raised red bumps. Really annoying, ugly and not a good look.
A few derms [idiots] couldnt even diagnose me.
One Dr suggested PULSE DYE LASER.
NIGHTMARE!
DO NOT HAVE THIS IF YOU HAVE ACTIVE BREAK OUT!!!!!!!
It bruised me and gave me the worst break out since my 20's , yea im 43 now.
Im actually scarred by the laser and it created awful acne again.
Luckily, my original dermo was still alive and knew what it was straight away.
Here in Australia, even if you have Acne/Vulgaris they put you on a lower dose for a longer time.
Dont ask me why.
Id rather get it over with to be honest.
Anyway,
Side Effects.
IBS
Mood Swings
Joint Pain pretty severe
ED/Libido [Comes and goes no pun intended]
Mild Depression
Bad Initial Breakout like i was 20.
I think I've gained weight but everything is hyper so i could just be being hard on myself but its harder to train at the gym coz of joint pain.
Supplements work:
B all of them
Probiotics
E
Any joint aids that body builders use.
Zinc[Great for sexual side effects]
To Do List
Avoiding bread [sucks i know]
Actually most carbs!
Exercise, As much as you can, even just plain old walking
Drink heaps of water
Avoid Alcohol [makes me go insane and have the most full on hangover for days]
Avoid obsessing over side effects you can get it will only make you go crazy, i still look everyday at the blogs [Rolls eyes]
Eat heaps of greens, spinach especially.
Stress less!!!!!!!!
Life is short, try and enjoy it
Oh yea get a good therapist..
Cheers
oli girl...is there any way I can talk to you about your 6/21/12 post? I took doxy for rosacea around 4 mos., have been off of it for a year, but now have symptoms related to this post and I am concerned. I am wondering if doxy altered my thyroid in some way.
Send me a PM on what is going on! Was my post in this thread or in the Roseaca fourm thread?????
Hey all. I've logged in and saw I have some messages from people asking me about health and advice.
Well here are my views on health. I'll keep it short although there is much more to be said.
I've realized that food and water does not keep the keep the body alive.
Our organs don't digest 'food' for energy, they eliminate it.
The feeling of hunger is organs shrinking back to their original size. If nothing is consumed, the feeling goes away.
The body does incredible things when it doesn't have to eliminate matter in it.
When I was eating a raw diet, I was becoming more and more sensitive. I soon felt that my body did want anything in it anymore. I went online and discovered there are many others who feel the same way and have been living for years without putting matter inside themselves. I stopped eating and drinking. I experienced a deep detox, 'miraculous' healing, and and amazing changes in my reality. I was not ready mentally for the transition though and eventually started eating again. Giving up putting things into me has been quite challenging for me. I'd say it's the most difficult challenge I've ever had. I feel like a spiritual warrior in this reality...
Anyway! I have advice for anyone who is open minded and wants to improve their health. I have experience with all of the following.
An amazing first step to take is to stop consuming everything man-made, processed, and cooked. And eat only raw plant life such as fruits, vegetables, nuts and seeds. If you eat like this for a while (at least a month, not one day!) you will experience amazing improvements in health.
If you have been eating raw for a while and feel like further improvements could be made, I suggest eating only fruits with a lot of water such as oranges, melons, lemons, cucumbers, etc. These fruits put less stress on the body than other, more dense plant-life.
Want even greater health? Only drink juice. Greater? Drink only water. Greater? Don't consume anything. You will experience the perfection of the human body. And it is amazing. I can't say it enough. Our bodies and this reality is amazing.
If you start eating healthier, you will experience detox symptoms. These symptoms vary greatly from person to person. Basically, you can feel like crap when you make a diet change. Flu like symptoms, headaches, lethargy. This is what I experienced when I started eating healthier and eventually started fasting. It is only temporary and goes away quickly in my experience.
Also I saw a few posts about pot and pot oil. I come from a state where pot is now legal (Colorado). Back in high school I consumed a lot of it. Let me just say from experience weed sucks. It is very damaging to our bodies and is expensive. I used to think I felt good when I was high. But in reality, I was very hurt.
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So this is where we are now.
People suggesting that
-if you smoke some pot your side effects will be helped. (start smoking and see if your side effects don't actually get worse)
-stop eating/drinking completely. (my favorite) *rolls eyes*
-just eat well forever and hope for the best (this may act as a bandaid but does not actually treat anything)
This is disgusting. Seriously people? I'm glad what works for you in particular works and that you're sharing out of good will to try to help, but what the hell happened to looking at telomeres, seeing if the poison is still in us but stored in fat so trying to get it out that way, and what happened to **Chico** and looking for a cause and effect, logical solution?
This forum is becoming a soap opera/base for people like, I'm sorry to say it, Indigo to make videos and turn into his own personal blog. I thought we had a purpose here but all I see are the same questions getting asked and even more ridiculous answers being given. Is there hope out there at all? Has anyone read about supplementing with Vitamin D to help with Hypervitaminosis A side-effects? My kingdom for something helpful on this forum. Come on guys I love you all but let's make some progress here...
Progress has been made. I myself have progressed in epic fashion. And I know others in this thread who have as well. I do understand that if you still are sick and haven't experienced healing, it may seem like no one has progressed at all.
Try a long fast of some kind. I know you haven't tried one because if you have you wouldn't be here looking for help. And I'm not saying that to be unkind, it's just the truth. Our bodies have the ability to heal greater than most realize. You just have to give it the chance to and it will.
I came back here to help a few people who will view the words I am typing. Yeah to the paradigm of not eating seems unbelievable to someone who hasn't experienced it. But it is very real and I already see many people on the internet realizing it and sharing the information. It is awesome.
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