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I've cancelled the beef liver shipment and ordered bamboo capsules instead, which arrives Tuesday.
I tried the Seagate seaweed Thursday morning when it arrived and it definitely had an anabolic effect. Felt noticeably stronger, deeper voice, less stress, just a very calm and peaceful mental and physical energy. Only downside is it seemed to produce an asexual effect. I believe that was due to it's rich soluble fiber content. Soluble fiber lowers cholesterol, which in turn lowers testosterone.
The Seagate seaweed species (giant kelp) is the fastest growing plant in the entire ocean. Bamboo is the fastest growing plant on land. Unlike the seaweed, bamboo is low in soluble fiber. It's also faster growing than the giant kelp. Accutane and all other chemo drugs are anti cell growth, and pro cell death. Will try the bamboo tuesday night and report the effects later in the week.
On 5/22/2020 at 2:47 PM, SimpleMutton said:Guys the whole side effects of Accutane are caused by gluten. Please all of you go on a super strict gluten free diet for at least 3 months and then report back. I'm sure your symptoms will be gone or greatly improved. I know it sounds like bullshit or whatever but please do it. It worked for me, it worked for other people and I know that gluten is the cause of all those problems like brain fog, fatigue, joint pain ecc but it's tough to convince people because I also thought it was bullshit until I tried. Nothing else will work believe me.
Once you're recovered please come back here and say you're recovered after going gluten free so you can convince more people of going on a strict gluten free diet. Don't disappear after you are cured.
And yes, if you tested for celiac and the test came back negative it means nothing. I also got tested and all my test came back negative but I still was sensitive to gluten and that was the cause of my problems. Accutane use switch something permanently in our genes that make us sensible to gluten and that inflammation cause autoimmunity and a whole host of other problems.
This is not even a theory, I'm certain of that so please try it and report back so we can all sue Roche. That's actually the whole reason why I'm sharing it. It took me years to discover it and I'm sharing it for free. Stop wasting money on supplements and tests. I'll just ask you to trust me...what does it cost you? After all you already tried everything and your symptoms make your life miserable. At the worst you'll stay the same but believe me you WILL improve. You just have to be extremely strict and stay on it for at least 3 months. To lift brain fog it may take a year but you should see noticeable improvements way before that and some symptoms will be cured in as little as 4 weeks.
Others symptoms improve much quicker. You also need to eat a healthy diet to speed up the process. Don't eat processed food and reduce your sugar intake. I don't suggest you any supplement because I don't want you to think I work for a supplement company or whatever. Some supplements can speed up the process but they are useless without going strictly gluten free. You can be cured without taking any supplements.
Ok, let me know even in PM your progress. I'm sure of your progress. I may not write here much again because I don't want to argue endlessly with people saying it can't be true and other things or even saying they tried and didn't work just to try to get some relevance in saying it doesn't work. The thing is: they didn't try for a long enough period of time or werent 100% strict with it. That's it. If I'm this sure is because I'm 100% convinced gluten causes this problem. And the thing is that even a small speck of gluten will trigger the inflammation from cytokines or autoimmunity in certain cases. That's why you need to be 100% strict and even wash things extremely thoroughlyif someone before you cooked/atethings with gluten in it. Believe me I know. Even a super small amount of gluten will make my symptoms come back and will take 24/48h to clear
Dude,
You you not think that some/many/all sufferers have tried no Gluten?Yes, I agree that it does help with side effects. Your gut runs better and you body absorbs more, etc. I 100% think that we all should be on low/no gluten and dairy.
That being said, NO, this is not "why" we have side effects, nor will this take eliminate nor cureof our issues. For some people and it seems you, yes, but that is not a cure all for all people. Side effects AKA: Brain and Body Damage at the DNA cellular level. There is NO cure.
You came in here like a cowboy expecting a parade. People are 'arguing' with you due to know it all attitude. Chil just a bit.
It is possible to multiple things yeah, meaning you can continue taking supplements and doingyour thing whilst going gluten free
i know my kinesiologist has encouraged it with me, even suggesting going free for a month just to reset things. I think the best Ive done is a week
getting off sugar and gluten etc has some merit, it could only help with our damaged guts post tane, my only suggestion is get off things for a period, not necessarily for a lifetime- this is why people start freaking out and lashing out, they think it has to be forever.
unless gluten really fucks you up, then Id suggest it doesnt have to be for the rest of your life yeah
If your problems are cognitive related or joint related gluten is the culprit. I'm 100% sure of it, that's why I talk in such definite statements. I'm trying to help you. Gluten cause brain inflammation by activating many different kind of cytokines. Not only that, there are very well respected doctors that claim in a lot of cases there is also neuro autoimmunity....the immune system attacks our brain. This low level inflammation causes the brain fog. Gluten of course is the underlying cause in 90% of people, the other 10% still can't eat gluten but maysuffer from other food intolerance too like dairy or soy ecc. Sugar also has to be greatly reduced because it's inflammatory and will delay your progress.
I don't want to talk about supplements because I don't want to make you spend money but some are helpful (but they don't remove the need to STRICTLY eliminating gluten from your diet if you want to cure your cognitive problems). Supplements that help are :
1) Longvida Curcumin : don't buy any other form of curcumin, this is the only one that work because it's the only one that cross the blood brain barrier
2) Apigenin and Luteonin (with Rutin): they are natural compounds that cross the blood brain barrier and tame the inflammation in the brain.
There are other helpful but I only list the the essential since I don't want to make you spend too much money. I remember years ago when I was looking at possible cures I hated when someone mentioned an endless list of supplements since I was a penniless college student and didn't have that much money to waste of supplements that probably didn't even work (indeed they didn't).
Buying all three and takingthem at high doses have synergistic effects and compounded with a strict no gluten diet and a diet richin vegetables and healthy food and low in sugar and processed foodyou'll see improvements fast....it took three months for me to see improvements in brain fog and a whole year for my brain fog to fully lift but I had a lot of brain inflammation and didn't have a blueprint to overcome my problems. I also didn't take any supplements so it took more time for me to heal.
Of course if you take them without very strictly eliminating gluten they will not work.
Now, if your problems are strictly sexual related this may not work (but still worth a try in my opinion). But if your problems are cognitive related for the sake of your health please do it.
I know it sucks eliminating gluten and we hope a drug or something else can cure our problems once and for all so we can go back eating pizza, pasta, chocolate and hamburgers but unfortunately that's the cause of the problem. And you also need to be extremely strict in eliminating gluten or it doesn't work because recent research shows even a small bite of gluten trigger an inflammatory response that lasts for up to three months.This is especially true at the beginning. Considering my story those 3 months look very real because that's exactly when I started to notice improvements in my brain fog. Even though many of my other symptoms improved much earlier, in a week or two after going strictly gluten free.
Curcumin and apigenin are anti androgenic / estrogenic, which exacerbates accutane's anti androgen effects. No use eliminating gluten if it doesn't harm me. Humans consumed gluten for thousands of years without issue. It only became an issue when we started poisoning our bodies with toxic vaccines, antibiotics, and drugs like accutane. I actually feel better after consuming some non GMO toasted whole wheat crackers, due to it's pro butyrate effects on my gut. Beneficial butyrate is produced when gut bacteria consume whole grains such as non GMO wheat.
That's fair, I can't convince you if you believe they are not gonna help you. Only thing I can say is that you could at least try for 3 months but it's up to you
The thing is, the problem isn't hormonal (again talking about the cognitive problems or joints)....it's the inflammation, that's why those supplements help in conjunction with a gluten free diet
That being said I can't blame any of you for not believing it. I know it sounds like bullshit it's all caused by gluten/food intolerances. If somebody told me 5 years ago my dementia like symptoms, fatigue, chronic migraines, restless leg syndrome, joint problems, malfunctioning throat/esophagus, and everything else were gluten related I'd have flipped out. I also did celiac testsand were negative. Only by extreme luck (maybe destiny) I embarked on a gluten free diet despite the test result and then when my symptoms started to disappear one after another I started to read more literature, more success stories and connected all the dots.
Btw I do agree with you on some things....antibiotics and accutane are definitely poison. Butyrate is very beneficialbut there are other ways to have your microbiome produce it without ingesting fiber from wheat (gluten)
On 5/23/2020 at 5:55 PM, Anna Nim said:Dude,
You you not think that some/many/all sufferers have tried no Gluten?Yes, I agree that it does help with side effects. Your gut runs better and you body absorbs more, etc. I 100% think that we all should be on low/no gluten and dairy.
That being said, NO, this is not "why" we have side effects, nor will this take eliminate nor cureof our issues. For some people and it seems you, yes, but that is not a cure all for all people. Side effects AKA: Brain and Body Damage at the DNA cellular level. There is NO cure.
You came in here like a cowboy expecting a parade. People are 'arguing' with you due to know it all attitude. Chil just a bit.
Why cant you just encourage the guy instead of bringhim down?It may not be onlygluten but manyother foods hes avoiding as well.The internet islittered with many success stories of healing from all types of things. The forum has numerous people healing from diet that I have posted about in the past. Maybe you should be asking him exactly what foods he is eating and avoiding.
4 hours ago, Chris16 said:Why cant you just encourage the guy instead of bringhim down?It may not be onlygluten but manyother foods hes avoiding as well.The internet islittered with many success stories of healing from all types of things. The forum has numerous people healing from diet that I have posted about in the past. Maybe you should be asking him exactly what foods he is eating and avoiding.
I don't need to encourage nor discourage him. I am glad it is working for him, it was his I Have Saved You All With MY Gluten Free Lifestyle that was annoying. "Maybe" you should not tell me what I should and should not do, dude..
48 minutes ago, Anna Nim said:I don't need to encourage nor discourage him. I am glad it is working for him, it was his I Have Saved You All With MY Gluten Free Lifestyle that was annoying. "Maybe" you should not tell me what I should and should not do, dude..
Just trying to help you and future people out. I™ve gone through the 700 pages on here and connected with people outside of this group and diet is always the key to healing. For some reason people just love to bash on people when they start talking about diet.
Here is one of many.
Don't know if this helps the discussion but gluten seems inflammatory in general so maybe time to connect the dots.
Vitamin A tends to be anti inflammatory in non excessive amounts, so obviously there's a connection.
Vitamin A doesn't seem to work normal now does it? This is a hugely growing concept.
I'm talking long term sides, not ones due to taking accutane recently which diet may work with, but then again I wonder if they will be back here ten years later, because diet didn't work long term.
18 hours ago, TrueJustice said:Hi Simplemutton
Any surprise finds with gluten? Foods that you found to have gluten that took you by surprise?
obviously breads, pasta, crackers, cakes are out. Ive also read it can be be found in tin foods so thinking baked beans is ok is not necessary the case right!?
You need to read labels carefully because gluten can be in so many foods as an additive
I don't know about beans because I don't eat them but I think they are safe, they don't contain gluten!
On 5/24/2020 at 12:55 AM, Anna Nim said:Dude,
You you not think that some/many/all sufferers have tried no Gluten?Yes, I agree that it does help with side effects. Your gut runs better and you body absorbs more, etc. I 100% think that we all should be on low/no gluten and dairy.
That being said, NO, this is not "why" we have side effects, nor will this take eliminate nor cureof our issues. For some people and it seems you, yes, but that is not a cure all for all people. Side effects AKA: Brain and Body Damage at the DNA cellular level. There is NO cure.
You came in here like a cowboy expecting a parade. People are 'arguing' with you due to know it all attitude. Chil just a bit.
I know it sucks theproblem is gluten related because we have to eliminate many delicious foods but it's not my fault
The problem we have is caused by inflammation....so all inflammatory foods are to be eliminated. Gluten of course is the main one and low gluten isn't enough, it has to be strictly no gluten. Other inflammatory foods like sugar and maybe dairy may also need to be eliminated. You also need to eat lots of anti inflammatory foods so vegetables, fruits like blueberries, blackberries and avocado, salmon, sardines, extravirgin olive oil ecc
Personally I didn't eliminate dairy but some people are intolerant to that too
The three supplements I mentioned above also help because they cross the blood brain barrier and dampen the inflammation caused by cytokines...so you'll heal a bit faster but as I said they are not substitute to a strict gluten free diet
I link here some posts about recoveries (read all the comments)once people embarked in a gluten free diet...the web is literally chock full of similar stories...it's not just me who recovered:
Ecc....just check on google, there are literally hundreds of recoveries from going gluten free from a wide variety of mysterious illness. There is only one common denominator of the recoveries....eliminating gluten.
I am making a website to collect accutane recovery success stories (a friend of mine knows a lot of people who have already healed completely!). On this website people who have healed can submit their healing story and others can browse the different healing stories. The goal is to identify patterns in what people did to heal. There are certain similarities and then again what worked for some seemed not to work for others (which is pretty weird).
I wanted to ask you guys if these questions are ok. Any suggestions, on what else may be important? What´s your take on the above questions? Let´s do this together. Finally. We´ve all suffered long enough. It´s time to get better. 2020 is the year xD
Please, if you guys suffer from brain fog and cognitive/mental problems read this article.
The brain fog (ie brain inflammation since it''s caused by inflammation from cytokines)is pretty serious and can lead to dementia later on if not addressed soon enough. That's because your neuronsare dying and the longest the time you have been having this brain fog/inflammation the worse it is since you're frying your brain. Needless to say gluten is the main culprit in brain inflammation for us. I won't mention all the diseases the brain inflammation can lead to if not addressed because they are a lot and scary. You can look it up yourself if you want.
Brain inflammation is heavily linked with dementia and alzhaimer and was found in post mortem analysis. Not only that, it destroys brain tissue little by little.
Most important things you can do (according to this article) are what I already figured it out by myself and what cured me: eliminate gluten, drastically reduce sugar and take flavonoids (like the ones I mentioned and others to dampen brain inflammation).
Here is an article if you want to read:
https://radianthealth.us/2018/06/12/is-your-brain-inflamed-how-to-tell-and-what-to-do/
Can say an MRI scan find brain inflammation?
I did some blood tests on general inflammation that came back fine. Weve kind of come to expect that though havent we, bitlike testing ok to Gluten yet we still underneath it all have a problem with it. It all stems I think from gut health and theres no real test to say exactly how healthy ones gut actually is....not that I know of anyway
Anyway.....if anyone can let the forum know about measuring brain inflammation please let us know. I know for sure I have it, but just how bad is it,is what Id like to know!!??
Just chatted with a guy on Facebook that recovered from a long list of side effects from Accutane:Depression, low testosterone, Hashimoto's disease, joint pain, brain fog, neurological issues.
I asked him exactly what he did and he told me thathe did a 7 day bone broth fast and then followed that with a low carb diet. He also took glutamine,vitamin C, MSM and vitamin D.
These are his words below:
At the very beginning when i started on my "protocol", for one week i was only on bone broth. Bone broth for breakfast, bone broth for lunch, for dinner etc. Only bone broth for a week.
After one week i went on low carb diet but still with bone broth. I didn't any white fluor, no pasta at all, no sweets, no sugar, no milk, no cream, no cheese, even no fruits (except lemon), no yeast, no tea no coffee, no peanuts, no potato, no white Rice, no carrot, no corn.
Everything Iate was organic.
Iwas taking a lot of vitamin C, MSM sulphur, L-gluthamine, Omega-3 oil.
Vitamin D, and very important thing - probiotics.
I dont know when this forum is going to wake up and figure out that the food you eat is very important in recovery from Accutane. This isnt the first time this has been said on this forum and Simplemutton just voiced the same thing in a post early aboutagluten free and anti-inflammatory diet.
9 hours ago, Chris16 said:After one week i went on low carb diet but still with bone broth. I didn't any white fluor, no pasta at all, no sweets, no sugar, no milk, no cream, no cheese, even no fruits (except lemon), no yeast, no tea no coffee, no peanuts, no potato, no white Rice, no carrot, no corn.
Curious what he ate, but the above is a low vitamin A diet.
24 minutes ago, under_tow said:Curious what he ate, but the above is a low vitamin A diet.
He didnt avoid vitamin a. Here is what he said.
Everything Iate was organic. I was buying food only with eko certificate.
I ate mainly green Vegetables, , a little bit of eggs, buckwheat, chickpea, a little bit brown rice, coconut oil, coconut milk, alomond milk, hazelnuts, walnuts, linseed, chia-seed, nori sheets, avocado, zuchinii etc, sunflower seeds, a little bit of salmon, pumpkin seeds and obviously a lot of bone broth.
Notice how he says mainly vegetables? This is important because this doesnt work if you go and eat a bunch of starchy foods like the chickpeas or brown rice above. I also dont think it works if you eat a bunch of fat. The key was the foods he was eating were very easy for his gut to break down allowing it to finally heal.
He just got back to me on the vegetables and said.
avocado, zuchinii, kale, Green salad, ribbed selery, a little of tomato and pepper, Green parsley, cauliflower, broccoli, onion, eggplant, cabbage, spinach, asparagus.
I was avoiding carrot, corn, beetroot and potatoes due the high amount of sugar
I react to eggs, chickpeas are estrogenic, coconut oil is anti androgenic due to the lauric acid, same goes for coconut milk. Almond milk is loaded with polyunsaturated fat, which is anti androgenic and inflammatory for me. Walnut, linseed, chia, all loaded with polyunsaturated fat, which again is anti androgenic. Nori is good, but giant kelp is better due to it's alginate content. Alginate binds to radioactive toxins such as 13 cis retinoic acid and removes it from the body.
Salmon is good. Much better than toxic fish oil. Albacore tuna and shrimp taste tons better than salmon. Roasted Pumpkin seeds are excellent for killing intestinal parasites, but too many pumpkin seeds can lower dht. Roasting the seeds makes them much more digestible than raw. Bone broth stimulates a massive dopamine loss due to the glycine content, if you don't have enough dha in your brain when drinking it. If your brain dha is good, then bone broth can be helpful.
Crucifers such as kale, broccoli, cauliflower, and cabbage are all high fodmap foods. fodmap foods do me and many others more harm than good.
Carrots, corn, and potatoes are all low in sugar. Corn and potatoes are high in non sugar carbs. Non sugar carbs are less problematic than sugar. Beetroot juice contains significant sugar. Non GMO Corn is better than potatoes due to corns insoluble fiber, which is pro butyrate. Potatoes can be problematic due to the starch.
I've been doing 3-6 capsules daily of Seagate seaweed, which is alginate rich giant kelp, and it definitely improves my brain health. Does a better job for the brain than what gotu kola was doing for me. And unlike gotu kola, I won't have to worry about liver issues with the seaweed, since seaweed is beneficial for the liver. The seaweed is also reducing the appetite significantly.
Bamboo capsules arrive tomorrow. Giant kelp is the fastest growing plant in the ocean. Bamboo is the fastest growing plant on land. Accutane promotes cell death. We need the exact opposite of that, which is cell growth, and these two plants are all about growth, moreso than any other plants on the planet.