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Only briefly discussed it, not tested it that I can remember. Its on this bigNeuroimmunologychart in the room.
Under barrier protection:
Copper: Zinc ratio changes
weve discussed copper but we dont concentrate on it. He knows Itested high for it in a hair mineral test years ago. He can only test outputs though meaning there is no way of knowing where the excess copper might be...all through the body? In a particular organ?
Anyway, Im more concerned if my Vit D is back in range now and my Iron levels...both low on last blood test
He said both expected to be low with HPA dysfunction...again wasnt deterred and didnt suggest to get any further blood tests done.
15 hours ago, JohnEasy1 said:I'm new to this forum so I'dbe grateful for an answer to my question, apologies if this topic has been discussed before.
Anyone tried fish oil (not cod liver oil) and had a positive experience (or did it worsen things)? I feel as though it helps some symptoms but worsens others.
To spread somepositivity/hope, I have recovered from my EDafter taking accutaneover 1 year and 7 months ago. Eye floaters,anxiety, low moodhave all improved also. I found exposure to sunlight, fairly rigorousexercise,eating serotonin boosting foods (e.g. bananas), and cold showershave helped my low mood/hopelessness.
Hope everyone hasa good day
I always reacted negatively to fish oil and got joint pain but everyone is different.
7 hours ago, TrueJustice said:Aaron - Ive still got many questions to ask on this product. From what Im reading much of the ingredients in the Beef intestine is easily sourced and my kinesiologist can easily obtain them:
B12, Choline, Selenium, Zinc, Manganese & Phosphorus....all easy to take either by themselves or in another supplement.
The Gut specific stuff too you can easily get in a Digestive Aid supplement for instance!!
Really looking to see what sets this apart from other ways of getting these ingredients??
What is your diet like right now?No supplement will cure it if you keep putting garbage in.
Thank you for emailing ancestral. Let us know what response you get. And the rest of you need to follow suit if you ever want to escape.
If you're talking about vitamins and minerals you're completely missing the point. I'm talking about mammalian DNA. Growth factors. Enzymes. Raw mammalian proteins. Things you can't get from multivitamins or herbal digestive formulas. Things most people have never heard of that you can only obtain from animal tissue.
As far as diet goes I eat tons of candy, drink tons of pop. I smoke and drink and do street drugs daily as well. But honestly......
To me, for someone to ask about diet is to assume I'm faking all of it. It's the same as the rest of you in order to survive. Organic and non GMO as much as possible. Clean ingredient lists. Amy's organic meals. Campbell's chunky soups which are loaded with gut crucial glycine rich bone broth. Raw organic fruits. Beef and wild albacore are the main meats. No pork. gluten free non GMO whole grain rice, oats and corn to supply the crucial colon cleansing, butyrate producing fiber. No whole grain wheat. Kalona milk, lifeway organic kefir. Organic green tea.
You see, diet is not the problem. The problem is a complete and utter lack of what our ancestors were consuming 1000+ years ago. Raw animal organs and tissues, including raw intestinal tissue. You can't retrain a chemo damaged gut without it.
Brian Johnson. Ancestral supplements. Beef intestines. [email protected]. you will never see the product back on Amazon unless he hears from all of you asking to bring the product back. Once the product hits Amazon, you buy it, you consume it daily, you heal completely from head to toe, and you have your life back.
23 minutes ago, Aaron76 said:And the rest of you need to follow suit if you ever want to escape.
i'm good with themenhaden fish oil you were pushing months ago, and I eat cow intestine for breakfast.
What do you try to move old product that can no longer be sold? Im kidding, I dont care.
You are the most ignorant, clueless, hopeless loser ive ever encountered guitarman.
The old Swanson super dpa menhaden formula was incredibly unique in that it was a dha product that came loaded with naturally occurring, gut stabilizing saturated fat, unlike any other fish oil on the market. And it worked incredibly well to counteract the extreme gut inflammation we are experiencing. It was unfortunately replaced with cheap garbage that doesn't work the same.
People like you deserve to suffer in hell. Go back to your cave so the rest of us can focus on healing.
4 hours ago, Aaron76 said:Thank you for emailing ancestral. Let us know what response you get. And the rest of you need to follow suit if you ever want to escape.
If you're talking about vitamins and minerals you're completely missing the point. I'm talking about mammalian DNA. Growth factors. Enzymes. Raw mammalian proteins. Things you can't get from multivitamins or herbal digestive formulas. Things most people have never heard of that you can only obtain from animal tissue.
As far as diet goes I eat tons of candy, drink tons of pop. I smoke and drink and do street drugs daily as well. But honestly......
To me, for someone to ask about diet is to assume I'm faking all of it. It's the same as the rest of you in order to survive. Organic and non GMO as much as possible. Clean ingredient lists. Amy's organic meals. Campbell's chunky soups which are loaded with gut crucial glycine rich bone broth. Raw organic fruits. Beef and wild albacore are the main meats. No pork. gluten free non GMO whole grain rice, oats and corn to supply the crucial colon cleansing, butyrate producing fiber. No whole grain wheat. Kalona milk, lifeway organic kefir. Organic green tea.
You see, diet is not the problem. The problem is a complete and utter lack of what our ancestors were consuming 1000+ years ago. Raw animal organs and tissues, including raw intestinal tissue. You can't retrain a chemo damaged gut without it.
Brian Johnson. Ancestral supplements. Beef intestines. [email protected]. you will never see the product back on Amazon unless he hears from all of you asking to bring the product back. Once the product hits Amazon, you buy it, you consume it daily, you heal completely from head to toe, and you have your life back.
I asked TrueJustice what his diet was and not yours...
18 hours ago, guitarman01 said:Now you know Im not one to discourage. I think some people get along well enough to move on with their lives. There's no supplement or cure I would endorse atm, but I think a type of "clean" could be important.A microbial balance.(you know what I'm into right now)
Bacteria that fights bacteria, to keep things even asextreme as cancer at bay. Bacteriamight be important forfertility health too.
Also Hard to treat healing processes. This doesn't necessarily equate to whats commercially available as probiotics atm. Some have also had success through diet modification alone, at least when it comes to certain sides.
There's plenty to still look at, I have thoughts that could take this forum out for months, but honestly I just dont feel like spending alot of time on this right now, because yes, its mostly about a cure so to speak, or at least get health moving in the right direction.
I feel like I have acquired enough knowledge atm, now its a matter of what to do about it? How to go about looking into things further?
On the PFS forum, I see a correlation between small fiber neuropathy, autoimmunity and antiphospholipid syndrome.
A dangerous thought. I brought this up as a headline and ask if anyone's ever tested for these antibodies and I get crickets.
So I assume no?
I bring this up because I also read ivig +anticoagulation equals "cure" for some afflicted in this way.
This is just one example, but there is still plenty I see moving forward.
Thanks for the response here and for alerting the propeciahelp staff of Aaron76's joining to spam post.
No, a search of antiphospholipid there didn't turn up anything and I'm not familiar with any member getting tested for anything of the sorts. A search there for "antibody" or "antibodies" bring-up about a dozen threads where people posted various test results.
3 hours ago, Chris16 said:I asked TrueJustice what his diet was and not yours...
Its nothing special man. Meat, chicken, fish, pork. Occasionally try to buy better grades or organic
vegies, fruit too.
i avoid white bread, milk, soft drink etc.
I can eat anything really, nothing stands out to eitheravoid or consume more of. Sorry its rather boring really.... Im grateful in that sense knowing what others have to avoid.
Wb, you're just as ignorant as guitar. You two are so fucked in the head from accutane that when someone new comes along with new ideas and sensible solutions, you want to silence them.
I took the shit back in late 91 early 92. I know what pain and suffering is like. Just because I haven't been on this sad forum posting endless research studies with fruitless results doesn't mean I haven't suffered. You have the stupid, ignorant mindset that the only person who can come up with a solution is someone whose been on this forum for years alongside you. If someone new who hasn't been here with you comes along, then what they say means nothing to you.
That is absolute bullshit. I've chosen not to waste my time posting fruitless shit on this forum. When I find something that I believe will work, and that product needs help making it to market, I spread the word. Look at all the success ancestral supplements is having with all their organ products. Amazon customers are raving about them. Why wouldn't it be the same with their intestinal product?
You don't deserve health and happiness wb. You deserve to suffer in pain and misery for the rest of your life for trying to silence the truth, and for trying to prevent others from health and happiness.
I would say Truejustice is by far the most decent, intelligent, and most worthy person here for recovery. He's open to new ideas, and willing to try new things. Wb and guitar don't even fucking try anything new. They want to stay trapped in front of their computer their whole life. I applaud you truejustice for your efforts with kinesiology, and for being open to beef intestines as well.
Bloody hell everyone, can we keep it cool pls!!
Everyone is capable of pissing each other off at times - myself included, Ive made some self indulgent crappy posts too.
There are things that both Guitarmanand Dubya have saidthat I disagree with and other things that arebrilliant and bang on the money!!- nothing wrong with healthy debate at times to draw out the truth of the situation.
Just no need for anyone to get personal imo. Were all just victims trying to best figure this shit out so some respect to each other wouldnt hurt yeah!!
lets just let things boil down pls.
Tell me what I have going on. Sharing helpful information and trying to help people recover their health. Defending myself in the face of your arrogant ignorance. Explain why that's a bad thing. Explain.
Anyone who goes back to Friday afternoon will see a new guy who comes on with new and helpful information, one guy who is open and interested (tj), and two arrogant, ignorant jerks (wb and gm) attacking the new info for no reason. I am not the problem. You are the problem. Anyone from the outside will see this.
I can't remember dosage but I'm sure it was at least 40mg daily. Duration was 4-5 months. Side effects from head to toe, including joints. Too many to get into, and I consider that to be personal health info to be discussed with a doctor. It's very frustrating when negative guys like guitar and wb try to derail what could be a good thing. Calcified i encourage you to contact Brian from ancestral, from a positive standpoint, expressing your interest in the intestine product. Brian is there to help people.
So I saw kinesiologist this morning, took in a printout of Ancestral Intestines formula. Couple of points to say:
# He likes the idea behind like for like with organ issues and these products, knew straight away about that healing concept and its history.
# He liked the ingredients and made a point about it being hard to often get theseproducts given theyre in the US. There was nothing about this product that he dismissed.
Right now though I actually tested I wont say negatively but he said right now body not agreeing with it, Why? He said due to Histamines in gut that this isnt what you need right now BUT thats not to say down the track it could be good for me!! I dont know enough about either the product or the importance of gut histamines, all I know is I trust where my practitioner wants to go next with me.
So we will continue to clear out the crap, the biofilms etc. today I alsotested favourably to both Taurine and Vit D based on my insistence to test both, not his.We suspect body still wants more Taurine due to stagnant bile flow....thats very interesting at this stage of the game I must say. Bloody bile flow issues still at play.
I should also add, I tested better to a formula that has both Vit D together with Vit K over the straight Vit D formula.
P.s Ancestral Supplements promptly emailed me back suggesting both Beef organs and Bone marrow supplements in particular for gut issues.
They gave some great detail in email even suggesting take Vit D when you have IBS and or gut issues. You dont normally get detail in return emails from my experience reaching out to supplement companies....I was impressed and will get back to them none the less. When the time is right I will definitely consider taking their products - stuff out of New Zealand from experience is always impressive!!
They responded with the two supplements I mentioned above.
In my email I asked about best ones for fixing gutthinking theyd say we have the Intestine one but itscurrently out of stock.....no mention made of that.
Are you thinking its critical to get the intestine one or can we not just use a combination of the others?
I believe the intestine supplement is critical as it has gut specific proteins and enzymes not found anywhere else. If you've seen tv commercials for Accutane lawsuits, which part of the body do they always talk about? The gut... Crohn's, colitis, ibs. And what's the famous quote from hippocrates? All disease begins in the gut.
I just don't think the intestine supplement will ever come back without significant public demand for it. If people don't ask for it specifically im not sure it'll ever be back. If enough ppl express interest then I believe it will.
They told me twice going back to may 1 it would be back, with two missed target dates, mid June and late July. I just don't feel like asking anymore. Maybe I'm wrong, but my theory is the New Zealand govt is creating a hassle for that specific product. if you're curious what they'll tell you about it's return, let us know what you hear datewise. Take care tj.
@Aaron76 Overjoyed to see a hostile spammer who is too lazy to share his story about Accutane because it is too personal looking to add another failed treatment to the list.The magic is in the marketing.
You're right! This is the same guy hawking the menhaden fish oil last year:
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On 10/4/2018 at 6:59 PM, Aaron76 said:There's a petition at change.org called a cure for accutane syndrome. Go to change.org right now, look it up and sign it, and email to family, friends, etc. Let's get this product back online to get our health and lives back.
On 10/4/2018 at 9:50 PM, Aaron76 said:Why not email and tell Swanson you want it back? That's really what's needed. Testosterone requires more saturated fat and less pufa. Also, dha promotes sleep, and epa inhibits sleep. So I searched for a fish oil high in saturated fat at nutritiondata.com, saw menhaden, googled menhaden fish oil and found it at Swanson. There are other menhaden fish oils on the web right now but they all have epa, and epa is toxic to us because it competes with arachidonic acid, which we are low in due to an accutane induced retinol deficiency. We need the two primary fats of the brain, saturated fat and dha, which is exactly what that Swanson formula was.
On 10/5/2018 at 6:15 PM, Aaron76 said:Wow. You're clueless if you see it as an advertisement for a health supplement. Completely clueless. It's about bringing back a product that can restore peoples lives. Nothing wrong with that. Wow. Accutanes really done a number on the way you think.
Truejustice, you're being an ignorant moron too. 99% of the fish oil on the market is no good because it's isolated pufa. Isolated pufa is bad. Menhaden dha is completely different from 99% of the fish oils on the market because of it's protective saturated fat content. Has tons more saturated fat than all other fish species. It's this Saturated fat that sets it apart from all other fish oils. You feel bad from typical fish oil because it lacks saturated fat. Menhaden dha solves this problem because of it's saturated fat content. I know from EXPERIENCE how amazing the product was.
On 10/6/2018 at 6:50 AM, Aaron76 said:Tj, if you'd read you'd see that I said there are multiple brands of saturated fat rich menhaden oil available right now, but the problem is they all currently contain epa, which is a problem for us. Swanson was the only company to produce menhaden dha. i give you the answer to your problems and instead of helping me get the product back, you call it bullshit. What else was I supposed to say? And Brendan, you are the jackass for not listening to someone who has EXPERIENCED THE BEGINNING OF A TRUE COMEBACK. Why the fuck are you guys so fucking negative toward a product that has proven to work? Why won't anyone help me with this? I'm trying to give all of you your lives back and all you fucking do is attack me. What the fuck is wrong with you guys? Email Swanson and tell them you want this menhaden dha/dpa formula to come back.
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Please don't email his company. The last thing you would want is to help one of these bottom feeders profit further from an affiliate program.
Nice catch man!
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You are absolutely retarded w. Absolutely. My story is exactly the same as everyone else here. You've got it in your ignorant head that Accutane affects everyone differently. it's the SAME drug we've all used, and we are ALL human. I'm not going to waste my time going over a long list of PERSONAL miserable side effects that are for a DOCTORS eyes and ears only. You already know what they are from your own personal experience from the drug. Why rehash it? Why not focus on solutions instead of the same old shit we already know?
I make absolutely zero money from any affiliate programs. I'm about helping people and helping good products return to market. The old Swanson super dpa menhaden formula worked better than anything I'd ever used. Of course I'm going to try to enlist the help of others to try to bring it back if it worked! Who wouldn't? If you want to be ignorant I won't stop you. You deserve the pain and misery you live with.