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Guys the problems in the gut. Accutane is a chemo drug, and what do chemo drugs target? Rapidly dividing cells. And where are the rapidly dividing cells in your body? In the gi tract. Accutane has messed with your gastrointestinal cells ability to divide and replicate properly.
Imagine scribbling all over a master sheet that an office worker uses to make copies. Now every time this person wants to make copies, it doesn't come out right because some jackass (your dermatologist) scribbled all over it.
You can't fix the problem with probiotics, glutamine or other traditional gut supplements. You CAN fix it with the gut tissue of a healthy grassfed cow. There's a guy in Texas who sells beef organs and tissues in capsule form. He's having wild success on Amazon with virtually all of his products listed.
The only problem is he's out of the beef intestine product. Hepromised me back in early May that it would be available mid June. It wasnt. Then he promised me it would be available late July. Again, it wasn't. Icould be wrong but I believe the new Zeeland federal government is blocking his efforts to sell this product, and he's trying to keep that issue under wraps while he struggles with the new Zeeland govt to legally get the product to market.
If all of you guys emailed him volunteering to be nonpaid guinea pigs for the beef intestine product, you might get a free bottle out of it, and help this guy prove to the new Zeeland government that the product is safe and harmless. The company is ancestral supplements, they sell on Amazon, and the email is [email protected]. just tell him you want to purchase the beef intestine product and that if the new Zeeland government is blocking him from selling it that you'd be willing to serve as a free volunteer guinea pig. He may offer you a free bottle.
Everyone do this and report back here any progress you have. Take care for now.
16 hours ago, TrueJustice said:Can someone explain the report above in lay terms pls?
why female patients, what are the implications for males?
plus how does this answerthe ongoing question of Vit A toxicity or depletion post Accutane??
I don't think it does answer toxicity or depletion questions.
But in a 2015 study titled obesity leads to "silent" vitamin A deficiency in major organs determined obesity/high fat diet caused the body to not use vitamin A correctly.
Haven't heard anyone improving on a high fat diet. Thoughts?
5 hours ago, Aaron76 said:Guys the problems in the gut. Accutane is a chemo drug, and what do chemo drugs target? Rapidly dividing cells. And where are the rapidly dividing cells in your body? In the gi tract. Accutane has messed with your gastrointestinal cells ability to divide and replicate properly.
Imagine scribbling all over a master sheet that an office worker uses to make copies. Now every time this person wants to make copies, it doesn't come out right because some jackass (your dermatologist) scribbled all over it.
You can't fix the problem with probiotics, glutamine or other traditional gut supplements. You CAN fix it with the gut tissue of a healthy grassfed cow. There's a guy in Texas who sells beef organs and tissues in capsule form. He's having wild success on Amazon with virtually all of his products listed.
The only problem is he's out of the beef intestine product. Hepromised me back in early May that it would be available mid June. It wasnt. Then he promised me it would be available late July. Again, it wasn't. Icould be wrong but I believe the new Zeeland federal government is blocking his efforts to sell this product, and he's trying to keep that issue under wraps while he struggles with the new Zeeland govt to legally get the product to market.
If all of you guys emailed him volunteering to be nonpaid guinea pigs for the beef intestine product, you might get a free bottle out of it, and help this guy prove to the new Zeeland government that the product is safe and harmless. The company is ancestral supplements, they sell on Amazon, and the email is [email protected]. just tell him you want to purchase the beef intestine product and that if the new Zeeland government is blocking him from selling it that you'd be willing to serve as a free volunteer guinea pig. He may offer you a free bottle.
Everyone do this and report back here any progress you have. Take care for now.
Well according to those supporting the anti Vit A diet, you wouldnt need this product, you just need to avoid Vit A for a few years and all your problems will be solved.
What are your thoughts on this Aaron?
Ive always maintained no amount of consuming or avoiding Vit A is going to fix a damaged gut. Id like to think our body will handle and absorb things better once the gut isfixed - everything from A to gluten etc etc
Accutane permanently changes your body's ability to absorb utilize and metabolize retinol and beta carotene. Once you fix the gut, you fix the bodys ability to absorb utilize and metabolize vitamin A. You will never fix your gut without the help of Brian johnson, the owner of ancestral Supplements. And he can't help you unless he receives an email from you. Tell him you want the beef intestine product and that you'll do whatever it takes to get it back on Amazon, including being a guinea pig for product testing. That's the only way you'll ever get your health and your life back. Brian is waiting to hear from you.
I do appreciate your post Aaron
Unfortunatelyyoure not the first to say this is the only way youd have to agree with that. I will look into the product.
Also, they wouldnt be the only company in the world to make this product.
From memory theres a company in Aus who do collagen supplements in a similar fashion that use bovine ingredients. Plus my kinesiologist has fixed my leaky gut, still working on clearing out the bad bacteria/biofilms etc
Thx for info!!
Tj, If theres another company selling beef intestine capsules, name the company and product name. I guarantee you won't find one.
If your kinesiologist has fixed your gut, then pick up a bottle of non defatted beef liver pills, and take 4-6 of the undefatted liver pills daily. If you start having negative reactions to it then your gut isn't healed. Same thing goes for wheat, nuts and eggs. If you react to those then the guts still an issue.
Thank you for looking into the product, and I do hope you email Brian expressing your interest in the product. Unless he hears from more people than just me, he won't be as motivated to get it back on Amazon.
Product could be brilliant....wont dispute that.
Leaky gut has been treated successfullybefore by doctors, thats not even debatable without this guys product...
After a year of weekly kinesiology treatment - I trust my doctor when he says we treated leaky gut.
We wouldnt have beentrying to clear viruses/bacteria/fungus for last 9 months if leaky gut was still an issue
To my knowledge you cant treat biofilms which is what we now do if you still had leaky gut issues. Happy to hear reports or something if thats debatable which Im happy to pass on to them.
Thats not how the process works with fixing HPA axis dysfunction...trust me they follow a strict process to a tee!!
I cant think of a reason that theyd be bullshiting me with this....just cant
On 8/15/2019 at 4:18 PM, Chris16 said:
Ive been on this forum for 3 years now and Ive read numerous people who have healed from theirside effects so Im not sure what youre talking about.Ive also been on Facebook forums and people have healed there with diet too.
I'm not sure what you're talking about. Who on this forum with long-term side effects healed themselves? What symptoms did the Facebook folks cure with diet?
This forum is full of people who tried for years to find a cure to no avail.
The only long-term symptoms I've noticed being successfully managed with diet are gastrointestinal side effects.
19 minutes ago, TrueJustice said:I cant think of a reason that theyd be bullshiting me with this....just cant
Because you keep handing them wads of cash.
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The problem is leaky gut can have multiple causes. If the cause is genetically reengineering your gut cells with chemo, which is exactly what accutane is/does, then the only way to genetically reengineer those post accutane dysfunctional gut cells back to normal is with the gut tissue of a healthy cow taken on a consistent basis for several weeks or months.
It has all the mammalian genetic material that you're not going to find in any herbal supplement. The healthy cows healthy gut tissue essentially retrains your gut how to function normally again. There is no plant or herb that can do that. We are mammals, not plants. Beef intestines is the key to universal accutane recovery. Getting the product back on Amazon is key for us. I need everyone's help with that.
Another note, if you had a truly healthy gut wall then the parasites would be a non issue. They are still there because the gut wall is unhealthy. With a healthy gut wall there is no need for antiparasitic herbal formulas. They do not stick around in a healthy gut terrain.
Its good info youre posting and Ill no doubt discuss it with practitioner next week - get his take on both the product and also how chemo drugs impact gut.
im just clearing one thing at a time based on the program, creating best environment I can to heal gut.
As I said Ill discuss this supplement with them. Appreciate the info - adds another piece to the puzzle for us.
4 hours ago, Dubya_B said:I'm not sure what you're talking about. Who on this forum with long-term side effects healed themselves? What symptoms did the Facebook folks cure with diet?
This forum is full of people who tried for years to find a cure to no avail.
The only long-term symptoms I've noticed being successfully managed with diet are gastrointestinal side effects.
Because you keep handing them wads of cash.
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I do agree, I read that post thinking the same thing....who the fuck is fully healed and when was this posted??
Symptom treatment posts are to be found but there is no complete story of healing to my knowledge.
2 hours ago, TrueJustice said:It™s good info you™re posting and I™ll no doubt discuss it with practitioner next week - get his take on both the product and also how chemo drugs impact gut.
im just clearing one thing at a time based on the program, creating best environment I can to heal gut.
As I said I™ll discuss this supplement with them. Appreciate the info - adds another piece to the puzzle for us.
I do agree, I read that post thinking the same thing....who the fuck is fully healed and when was this posted??
Symptom treatment posts are to be found but there is no complete story of healing to my knowledge.
Really TrueJustice and Dubya_B?? I™ve gone over this with you before TrueJustice and it seems all you like to do is spread negativity. Making statements like those when you have new people join the forum all the time is totally misleading.
There are numerous people fully healed from this forum and I posted some of their names below.
Connor Mcelvin (User116745)
Anonyy
Scclippers
Washer
TaneAbomination
K. Oliveira
Flondon and comishcf also recently replied about their success with diet but yet everyone just overlooks their posts...
Im not going to hunt down every persons success post but her is K. Oliveira...
I've tried all of those supps and they do me more harm than good. Digestive enzymes are a foreign protein which exacerbates leaky gut. Probiotics are foreign Invaders which exacerbates leaky gut and also feed many types of parasites, particularly amoebas. Milk thistle is a feminizing anti androgenic, pro estrogenic herb that causes a hormonal melee. More harm than good. Nice if it worked for him but it's not going to work for everyone.
Kalona dairy is organic and processed below 150 degrees. Its virtually raw milk and helps people with gut issues. Raw Amish cheese is good for the gut also. The only types of dairy that can be bad are non organic and high temp processed. There is nothing in the world more identical to our pre accutane gut than healthy beef intestines.
@TrueJustice call me closed-minded, I refuse to believe someone who calls their self "doctor" and practices a known fraudulent and unscientific facet of medicine like applied kinesiology knows what they are doing and has good intentions.
@Chris16 Very underwhelming response. Yes, it would be a shame if a new member came here and was told that RSO, diet changes, finasteride, or the other supposed cures from a handful of people will almost certainly be of no benefit to them. it's funny how I was browsing around looking for evidence that Connor McElvin healed himself or was the same as User116745, and I stumble upon old posts to see the vastly overwhelming number of members from the past who tried RSO, diet changes, finasteride, water fasting, and the other purported cures on here who are still suffering.
Me, IndigoRush, Shadeo14, Crank92 (diet healed gastro sides, nothing else), Levianthan, tanedout, mes6890, championblood, roland1968, robert1000, acne1776, deebo, camaroz28, jmsil (suicide victim), lukez, tree1, 09eric09, pabpab, ihateaccutane, accux, and others.
The prognosis is pretty bad.
ps- @guitarman01, you are an old-timer here; have you tried some of the "cures?" If so, how did they turn out for you?
40 minutes ago, Aaron76 said:I've tried all of those supps and they do me more harm than good. Digestive enzymes are a foreign protein which exacerbates leaky gut. Probiotics are foreign Invaders which exacerbates leaky gut and also feed many types of parasites, particularly amoebas. Milk thistle is a feminizing anti androgenic, pro estrogenic herb that causes a hormonal melee. More harm than good. Nice if it worked for him but it's not going to work for everyone.
Kalona dairy is organic and processed below 150 degrees. Its virtually raw milk and helps people with gut issues. Raw Amish cheese is good for the gut also. The only types of dairy that can be bad are non organic and high temp processed. There is nothing in the world more identical to our pre accutane gut than healthy beef intestines.
Everyone is different which is why if you read the success stories (another below) it seems everyone™s diet is a little different.
These people who have success with diet don™t even post on forums like this because all they get is attacked by other people saying œwell I tried that and it didn™t work. Well maybe it didn™t work because a particular food that you™re eating is causing inflammation in your body but not another persons. So many variables come into play...
Very good point Chris about the diet your on when taking supplements. The supplements alone wont cure you if diet is crap - even I can vouch for that with being undisciplined at times when Ive been told by kinesiologist to cut out certain foods....not always easy.
Dubya - you dont like or believe in kinesiology thats fine, may have a bad reputation or something where you live...I dont know?
Peoples job tittles mean shit to me these days, I seem em all from GPs to Specialist to alternate practitioners...some are great while others not so good an experience.
Ive learnt a lot more and knocked out a lot more working with a kinesiologist over gastroenterologist who is prob way more qualified. Those guys if they dont find anything sinister just pass you on...at one point got told to just take iberogast ha ha ha. Really? Thats why Im paying you $250....seriously
Also, my kinesiologist is probably bullshiting me when he says GPs send some of their patients to see him - people with fucked up auto immune issues. Parents keep takingtheir autistic children to see him because he just fakes his way through stuff and pretends to behelping them. Best con artist Ive ever seen.
Kinesiologist has me heading in right direction treating gut. Even if you only half believe the recovery stories postedall of them essentially point to healing the gut....that part we surely can agree on finally.
I'm new to this forum so I'dbe grateful for an answer to my question, apologies if this topic has been discussed before.
Anyone tried fish oil (not cod liver oil) and had a positive experience (or did it worsen things)? I feel as though it helps some symptoms but worsens others.
To spread somepositivity/hope, I have recovered from my EDafter taking accutaneover 1 year and 7 months ago. Eye floaters,anxiety, low moodhave all improved also. I found exposure to sunlight, fairly rigorousexercise,eating serotonin boosting foods (e.g. bananas), and cold showershave helped my low mood/hopelessness.
Hope everyone hasa good day
John, Ill save you the trouble of trawling through hundreds of pages.
You can continue to takefish oil and see how you feel in the long run...the benefits may outweigh the negatives, only you can determine that.
You could see a good kinesiologist and theyll test to see how your body responds to it. Im back on it again after responding positively to it last week. Too early to say if I feel different - right now I dont feel anything different. Just because I respond well to it doesnt mean others will though.
4 hours ago, JohnEasy1 said:Anyone tried fish oil (not cod liver oil) and had a positive experience (or did it worsen things)? I feel as though it helps some symptoms but worsens others.
Maybe try Krill oil next time instead, see if you respond better. I tried fish oil quiteawhile back.I didn't really feel the need forlong term use of it, and yes I feel it can worsen some symptoms(mental) for some reason at times.
11 hours ago, Dubya_B said:you are an old-timer here; have you tried some of the "cures?" If so, how did they turn out for you?
Now you know Im not one to discourage. I think some people get along well enough to move on with their lives. There's no supplement or cure I would endorse atm, but I think a type of "clean" could be important.A microbial balance.(you know what I'm into right now)
Bacteria that fights bacteria, to keep things even asextreme as cancer at bay. Bacteriamight be important forfertility health too.
Also Hard to treat healing processes. This doesn't necessarily equate to whats commercially available as probiotics atm. Some have also had success through diet modification alone, at least when it comes to certain sides.
There's plenty to still look at, I have thoughts that could take this forum out for months, but honestly I just dont feel like spending alot of time on this right now, because yes, its mostly about a cure so to speak, or at least get health moving in the right direction.
I feel like I have acquired enough knowledge atm, now its a matter of what to do about it? How to go about looking into things further?
On the PFS forum, I see a correlation between small fiber neuropathy, autoimmunity and antiphospholipid syndrome.
A dangerous thought. I brought this up as a headline and ask if anyone's ever tested for these antibodies and I get crickets.
So I assume no?
I bring this up because I also read ivig +anticoagulation equals "cure" for some afflicted in this way.
This is just one example, but there is still plenty I see moving forward.
Aaron - Ive still got many questions to ask on this product. From what Im reading much of the ingredients in the Beef intestine is easily sourced and my kinesiologist can easily obtain them:
B12, Choline, Selenium, Zinc, Manganese & Phosphorus....all easy to take either by themselves or in another supplement.
The Gut specific stuff too you can easily get in a Digestive Aid supplement for instance!!
Really looking to see what sets this apart from other ways of getting these ingredients??