So you sprout the nut and then eat it. Hmmm.

If you did just strength training you are missing out. Cardio is just as important in my opinion. Also if you are not getting much sun and heat, that will play a big role in the health of your skin.

I have no experience with 80/10/10 diet so I'm not going to bash it.

Robert Cessar is close to some very fresh food living where he does (California or Hawaii I think). I would drink raw dairy if I knew a good source and had access.

I try to get the healthiest food I can, which is difficult living deep in a city. Everything I get is shipped here from around the world. I want to someday live in a place where I am close to my food. And grow my own. But I still am getting some pretty health plants.

I dont mean to sully anyone's opinion on whats best for healing accutane side effects, but i've been through the whole "vegan raw food" thing. I watched liferegenerater's channel all the way from when he was starting out, i know Dr Robert Cessar well....i was raw vegan for around a year. Eating nothing but organic foods (not supermarket bought, only farmers market) juicing lemon ginger blasts everyday and eating fruits, vegetables, nuts and seeds (soaked for 24 hours). I even bought shower filters and only drank clean spring water. Had a twin gear juicer which i replaced with the same breville that Dan the Man used. Never cheated with meals, and did coffee enemas and all sorts of cleansing things, like Dr robert morse lymph herbs, kidney, liver, blood herbs. Rebounding regularly and used infrared saunas all the time.

 

I can honestly say it didn't help my skin condition or my accutane side effects. If it did it was no more than 2-3% improvement and thats mostly just mental. Raw foods are great for the human body but people have to realise what works for them may not work for others at all. I know the dogma attached to it, if it works for you great, but what works for you is not the panacea for everybody.

 

I think it's great that people are advertising raw foods, it can be seriously powerful medicine, the vegan thing i'm kind of against though but thats my own thing. God speed to all of you.

 

Hi, I've been following this forum for several months now. This is a fascinating discussion so I have to jump in and add my two cents.

I've read so much about health and wellness (so many contradictions - arggh!!) but I agree with Chico that's there's really no one-size-fits all approach to healing the body. It is true the raw food diet approach has cured people from so many ailments (e.g. cancer, cronic fatigue, irritible bowel syndrome, diabetes, etc. etc.).

However, the raw food diet alone does not work for everyone.

For example, if you have an candida overgrowth or perhaps lots of parasites, or even heavy metal toxicity in your blood, then eating raw fruits is only going to MAKE YOU SICKER as candida and parasites feed off of sugar. Such was the case of the guy who wrote this article: http://paleodietlifestyle.com/how-steve-pavlina-almost-killed-me/

Candida and parasites should not be ruled out as it is known that accutane / isotretinoin can weaken the immune system - thereby causing candida and other parasites to flourish in the gut leading to a host of problems, which could wreck havoc in the body for years to come if left untreated.

Source: http://www.holistichelp.net/blog/healing-the-gut-after-accutane/

Instead of sticking to one specific diet , it might be worthwhile to try a series of different diet cleanses (e.g. candida cleanse, parasite cleanse, lymphatic cleanse, heavy metal dotox cleanse) all of which are different (some cleanses call from abstaining from meat for healing, others cleanses require meat for healing) and could take a long time to remove these toxins - however such will effectively remove EVERYTHING that could be preventing the body from healing. I don't think this can be accomplished by simply eating raw vegan foods alone. Chico, I don't know if you've tried some/all of these but there still must be other options to explore.

I hope this post is of encouragement. Keep searching for truth! Keep an open mind! Most important, do not give up and keep experimenting! I'm also an accutane victim - but I'm on my way to recovery and slowly improving.

Welcome Tane. Thanks for joining. That guy who said he almost died from eating raw fruits and veggies.. His article leaves out a lot of information. He doesn't mention exercise once! That alone lowers the reputability to me in a big way. For all I know, he could of sat on his butt for months eating a bunch of fruits hoping it would cure him, and then is surprised when the sugar rots his teeth, and he is still unhealthy.

Exercise is just as important as diet. The body cannot become strong, flexible, and have good flow unless one makes it by flexing, getting the heart pumping, etc!

Welcome Tane. Thanks for joining. That guy who said he almost died from eating raw fruits and veggies.. His article leaves out a lot of information. He doesn't mention exercise once! That alone lowers the reputability to me in a big way. For all I know, he could of sat on his butt for months eating a bunch of fruits hoping it would cure him, and then is surprised when the sugar rots his teeth, and he is still unhealthy.

 

Exercise is just as important as diet. The body cannot become strong, flexible, and have good flow unless one makes it by flexing, getting the heart pumping, etc!

 

Thank you, Connor. Completely agree that exercise is extremely important for cleansing and healing process.

I just read a book called Juicing, Fasting, and Detoxing for Life by Cherie Calbom. She also emphasizes the importance of exercising as it enables the body to properly metabolize nutrients, and build new proteins and hormones.

I just completed a 13 day water fast about a week ago and am still a little weak. Once my strength returns, I plan to start a vigorous exercise program to continue the healing / cleansing process.

Yes, exercise is a must.

What do you plan to start eating after your fast? Good luck to your success!

 

I am probably got more muscle mass and lower body fat scrict diet and visited a natural path even. I did raw eating. I did the David wolf routines. It helped but didn't stop acne or cystic or nodular. My rectum and buttocks hurts. I stopped once I noticed negative signs.

 

The fucked up things is the first poster that quoted me almost seemed to enjoy my pain and upset instead of suggestions to what I can do or try.

 

The reality I am fucked. I take accutane I get hair loss or risk going bald or I stop and risk being crater face. I workout and eat so well I never touched steroids. I don't want to imagine if I had.

 

For anyone that took accutane, how did you detox? What did you do for hair? Tips?

 

 

Sorry to hear you've got some of the side effects. What you have may not be permanent and could reverse itself if you've only just taken Accutane - unfortunately time will decide this rather then taking anything. If there was such thing as an Accutane detox (or one that worked) then we all wouldn't be here. I think Accutane stays in the system for a couple of months so you need to make sure you don't drink any alcohol at all as alcohol increases the risk of side effects/permanent damage, and eat as healthily as possible (as Connor said above, 100% raw foods is the best diet), and hopefully you'll get better. If you are familiar with David Wolfe (and his books) and have already tried raw foods, then hopefully it won't be too hard for you to go back to that routine. I'd say that's your best chance.

 

I appreciate man. I am a big fan of David Wolf. Fuck, its so frustrating being powerless to something. It sucks. Take for instance spending your life time educating others and offering value all aread you while, you dedicate your life to health and working out. Your life is ended by some piece of shit drunk driving. All the raw eating and bullshit diets aren't going to bring you back. Its fucked the world we live in. I cannot begin to make sense of the shit. I just try to do my best and get by.

Watch that video I posted 4 posts back. Look at that dude. He is 50 years old. That is what you get when eating raw and fresh.

 

That is the detox.

 

Don't eat anything else that isn't raw. Stick to it.

 

It took me a while to figure it out. I was eating mostly raw, but not completely, eating unhealthy things sometimes. I switched 1 day ago to 100% raw.

 

I am already feeling the detox. 1 single day! My body is becoming warmer. My abs are becoming firmer. My stomach organs are more relaxed. I slept very good last night. Music is sounding better. I am pretty damn aware of my body, there are good physical changes going on in me right now without a doubt.

 

At first I had to fight some food urges. But they are out of the way now.

 

I am very confident. This is awesome. Try it out man!

 

I am greatful for your advice and time. You could be pulling on yourself or doing anything. You've choosen to offer something valueable and I am appreciative. Before doing accutane, I tried everything under the sun. The building blocks for working out are healthy eating, diet, and of course working out to build muscle. I am about 205lbs. I am under 8% body fat. I cannot do this eating raw but, if it meant fixing hair, cleansing, and being acne free, I would be all over that.

Before people misinterprete this, understand that I am about a health first, and the rest is secondary. There is a inspiring amateur body builder known as zyzz. He inspired many people but, he freaked out in a forum about acne. How many would he have inspired if he had acne issues? How confident would he have been? Its not easy.

The cleanse was planned immediately following accutane. I see my dermatologis late this week so, I will be sure to figure something out. The plan is to clean up my diet, fix my hair, and acne without accutane, and resort to fading my hair if necessary. I hope I can resolve this. My frustration is in the previous poster. You add value by offering this information. Telling me, "i told you so," would be like telling my family we lost because of a drunk driver and lecturing the effects of being under the influence. It wont bring them back. To say I have been having a hell of a time the past couple years is a fucking understatement.

Another post to convince people of the power of a raw diet. Check out the long haired dude in the video. Absolutely down to Earth, smart, and ripped. These kind of people inspire me. And he is 50 years old! Wow. Eating living foods is the way.

 

 

 

This is not possible for the majority of people. I wont say it cannot happen but, for anyone that follows a natural raw diet tends to lose muscle and a ton of weight. The guy maybe 50 but, he also looks like he is on steroids and I wouldn't rule out growth hormones or performance enhancers. I am not sure for certain but, it would be insane amounts of raw just to maintain weight alone. Not building muscle.

 

I dont mean to sully anyone's opinion on whats best for healing accutane side effects, but i've been through the whole "vegan raw food" thing. I watched liferegenerater's channel all the way from when he was starting out, i know Dr Robert Cessar well....i was raw vegan for around a year. Eating nothing but organic foods (not supermarket bought, only farmers market) juicing lemon ginger blasts everyday and eating fruits, vegetables, nuts and seeds (soaked for 24 hours). I even bought shower filters and only drank clean spring water. Had a twin gear juicer which i replaced with the same breville that Dan the Man used. Never cheated with meals, and did coffee enemas and all sorts of cleansing things, like Dr robert morse lymph herbs, kidney, liver, blood herbs. Rebounding regularly and used infrared saunas all the time.

 

I can honestly say it didn't help my skin condition or my accutane side effects. If it did it was no more than 2-3% improvement and thats mostly just mental. Raw foods are great for the human body but people have to realise what works for them may not work for others at all. I know the dogma attached to it, if it works for you great, but what works for you is not the panacea for everybody.

 

I think it's great that people are advertising raw foods, it can be seriously powerful medicine, the vegan thing i'm kind of against though but thats my own thing. God speed to all of you.

 

 

Hi, I've been following this forum for several months now. This is a fascinating discussion so I have to jump in and add my two cents.

 

I've read so much about health and wellness (so many contradictions - arggh!!) but I agree with Chico that's there's really no one-size-fits all approach to healing the body. It is true the raw food diet approach has cured people from so many ailments (e.g. cancer, cronic fatigue, irritible bowel syndrome, diabetes, etc. etc.).

 

However, the raw food diet alone does not work for everyone.

 

For example, if you have an candida overgrowth or perhaps lots of parasites, or even heavy metal toxicity in your blood, then eating raw fruits is only going to MAKE YOU SICKER as candida and parasites feed off of sugar. Such was the case of the guy who wrote this article: http://paleodietlife...most-killed-me/

 

Candida and parasites should not be ruled out as it is known that accutane / isotretinoin can weaken the immune system - thereby causing candida and other parasites to flourish in the gut leading to a host of problems, which could wreck havoc in the body for years to come if left untreated.

 

Source: http://www.holistich...after-accutane/

 

Instead of sticking to one specific diet , it might be worthwhile to try a series of different diet cleanses (e.g. candida cleanse, parasite cleanse, lymphatic cleanse, heavy metal dotox cleanse) all of which are different (some cleanses call from abstaining from meat for healing, others cleanses require meat for healing) and could take a long time to remove these toxins - however such will effectively remove EVERYTHING that could be preventing the body from healing. I don't think this can be accomplished by simply eating raw vegan foods alone. Chico, I don't know if you've tried some/all of these but there still must be other options to explore.

 

I hope this post is of encouragement. Keep searching for truth! Keep an open mind! Most important, do not give up and keep experimenting! I'm also an accutane victim - but I'm on my way to recovery and slowly improving.

 

That is it man.

I was out to some seminar and on my way, a girl tried to sell me mud soaps. I had them already. Fuck i tried everything and anything. She then told me how horrible accutane is and began to lecture me about how to be health and acne free as she ate a big mac in front of me and drank her soda.

Fuck, it pisses me off. Its not even like I wish this shit on anyone. That would be fucked up. My point is that, people do not get it. They had a pimple and think they are experts on acne. If you had a scar, you had a type of severe acne being cystic or nodular even if its not full blown severe acne. Its severe enough to leave permanent damage, its pretty fucking serious. If someone had that type and they cured themselves naturally, please inform me. I am all ears.

You are very welcome man. I am glad to help.

When you say you cannot do this eating raw, what are you referring?

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Oh never mind. You are referring to bodybuilding. Let me explain more.

The thing is, when you detox your body, with fruits and vegetables. It is getting rid of all the bad junk and fat inside your body. As the junk goes away, your body is able to able nutrients way better. Not only do you get more cut, but you get stronger as well. That's what the rawbrahs said happened when they went to eating raw. They lifted better than ever before. I can attest as well. Today is 2 day of my detox and I had one the best workouts in a long time.

You may lose muscle at, as your body become cleaner, the muscles built on low quality nutrition will likely go away. But then you are left with the strongest muscles you and with can build on top of that with more high quality muscles.

Fill your body with only quality food and you can achieve quality results.

Yes, exercise is a must.

 

What do you plan to start eating after your fast? Good luck to your success!

 

So far I've been drinking veggie juice (e.g. cucumber, beets, celery, ginger, lemon, carrots) -- yeecckkk! BUT, we must focus on the end result man! Also been eating bone broth with veggies, veggie soups, some chicken, and nuts. Tons of probiotics and digestive enzymes with every meal. I am noticing improvements with this protocol.

I have read stories of accutane sufferers who have shown 50, 75, 100% improvements in their side effects from water fasts so I wanted to try this approach as well. Isotretinoin is a chemotherapy drug that indiscritmately kills good and bad cells - need to find out how to repair and regenerate good cells destroyed by isotretinoin. Also, many accutane sufferers have reported improvements from change in diet (e.g. raw vegan foods). I don't claim to be an expert but I'm trying to take a scientific approach to treatment and continually research what has worked for other accutane sufferers. Personally, I'm trying to incorporate the raw food / paleo diet approach. I'm about to try a more targeted candida approach - which will be tough because the diet is very, very restrictive (no fruit ( only certain non-sweet vegetables. But it's temporary and I'm willing to give it a try to focus on the end-result.

I am very happy to hear that you've recovered from your accutane side effects, you are definitely inspiration for the rest of us and certainly give us hope. Like I said, I've been following this forum for several months I really do appreciate you guys; Indigo, Chico, Oli Girl, Jsmil & others who are continually warning the rest of the world

about the dangers of accutane. I want to add my voice to the mix too. I guess it goes without saying that I'm mad as hell at Big Pharma, the FDA, dermotologists, clueless doctors, the greedy, absolutely and utterly souless, demonic, executives at Roche Pharmaceuticals spewing LIES LIES AND MORE LIES all for their corporate profit.

If I find other helpful information, I'll post it on this forum as well. I'm committed to the truth and the healing process - which may vary from individual to individual. But I think you're right when you say POSITIVE ATTITUDE is key and crucial to the healing process...this has been scientifically proven too.

Cheers!

I have said it before. I tried the raw food diet, read a lot about it, but it is not THE cure for everybody, I know a lot of people struggle with it. Especially if your digestive system is not working optimally it may not be for you.

I first tried it in 2006 as I was juice fasting for a good 2 months and it was a great way to detox and alkalize my body. In the following years I went raw for longer periods of time, but it did not cut it for me, I still try to eat a lot of raw foods whenever I can, but healthy cooked food does not worsen my physical state noticeably. The time I save on not going all raw I can spend in the gym, which has a far more significant effect on my overall wellbeing.

I know that liver and gallbladder are the root to my complete recovery, this is why I hope to get my hands on UDCA in the coming months. I have tried tons of products and have never been this confident about the potential benefits of a product. It will dissolve cholesterol stones, thereby rejuvenate your liver and gallbladder, it helps your body to detox, reduces inflammation etc. It sounds to good to be true, but it will provide your body simply with the very natural substance it was lacking in order to regain its equilibrium, which is bile. Together with the continued supplementation of artichoke and peppermint supplements, which I cycle, I expect to see the greatest improvement I have experienced in a long long time.

Ursodeoxycholic acid (UDCA) is marketed under the trade names Actigall, Ursosan, Ursofalk, BILIVER, WESTERN PHARMACEUTICALS) Egypt), Egyurso (Egyphar Egypt), Urso, and Urso Forte. In Italy and Switzerland, it is marketed under the name Deursil. In Mexico it is marketed in capsules of 250 mg under the name Coric by Mexican pharmaceutical Landsteiner Scientific.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursodiol

[Edited link out]

Can we dissolve gallstones?

Cholesterol baCan we dissolve gallstones?

Cholesterol based gallstones can be dissolved with bear bile (Ursodiol, also known as ursodeoxycholic acid and the abbreviation UDCA). Lecithin may help dissolve cholesterol based gallstones. Increasing bile flow may help dissolve gallstones.

It may be impossible to dissolve Calcified gallstones. It may be impossible to dissolve Protein based gallstones.

There are unconfirmed reports that Calcified gallstones were dissolved with Freshly pressed radish juice or with some other vegetable or fruit juice. There are unconfirmed reports that Calcified gallstones were dissolved during a water fast.

Ursodeoxycholic acid goes by the trade names Actigall, Ursosan, Urso, Ursodiol and Urso Forte. In Italy, it is marketed under the name Deursil.

Ursodeoxycholic is naturally obrained from bear bile. Ursodeoxycholic acid can be chemically synthesized and was brought to market by the Montreal-based Axcan Pharma in 1998, which continues to market the drug.

The drug reduces cholesterol absorption and is used to dissolve (cholesterol) gallstones in patients who want an alternative to gallbladder surgery. sed gallstones can be dissolved with bear bile (Ursodiol, also known as ursodeoxycholic acid and the abbreviation UDCA). Lecithin may help dissolve cholesterol based gallstones. Increasing bile flow may help dissolve gallstones.

It may be impossible to dissolve Calcified gallstones. It may be impossible to dissolve Protein based gallstones.

There are unconfirmed reports that Calcified gallstones were dissolved with Freshly pressed radish juice or with some other vegetable or fruit juice. There are unconfirmed reports that Calcified gallstones were dissolved during a water fast.

Ursodeoxycholic acid goes by the trade names Actigall, Ursosan, Urso, Ursodiol and Urso Forte. In Italy, it is marketed under the name Deursil.

Ursodeoxycholic is naturally obrained from bear bile. Ursodeoxycholic acid can be chemically synthesized and was brought to market by the Montreal-based Axcan Pharma in 1998, which continues to market the drug.

The drug reduces cholesterol absorption and is used to dissolve (cholesterol) gallstones in patients who want an alternative to gallbladder surgery.

On 8/26/2012 at 12:26 PM, TaneAbomination said:

On 8/26/2012 at 5:13 AM, *Connor said:

Yes, exercise is a must.

What do you plan to start eating after your fast? Good luck to your success!

So far I've been drinking veggie juice (e.g. cucumber, beets, celery, ginger, lemon, carrots) -- yeecckkk! BUT, we must focus on the end result man! Also been eating bone broth with veggies, veggie soups, some chicken, and nuts. Tons of probiotics and digestive enzymes with every meal. I am noticing improvements with this protocol.

I have read stories of accutane sufferers who have shown 50, 75, 100% improvements in their side effects from water fasts so I wanted to try this approach as well. Isotretinoin is a chemotherapy drug that indiscritmately kills good and bad cells - need to find out how to repair and regenerate good cells destroyed by isotretinoin. Also, many accutane sufferers have reported improvements from change in diet (e.g. raw vegan foods). I don't claim to be an expert but I'm trying to take a scientific approach to treatment and continually research what has worked for other accutane sufferers. Personally, I'm trying to incorporate the raw food / paleo diet approach. I'm about to try a more targeted candida approach - which will be tough because the diet is very, very restrictive (no fruit [Edited image out]( only certain non-sweet vegetables. But it's temporary and I'm willing to give it a try to focus on the end-result.

I am very happy to hear that you've recovered from your accutane side effects, you are definitely inspiration for the rest of us and certainly give us hope. Like I said, I've been following this forum for several months I really do appreciate you guys; Indigo, Chico, Oli Girl, Jsmil & others who are continually warning the rest of the world

about the dangers of accutane. I want to add my voice to the mix too. I guess it goes without saying that I'm mad as hell at Big Pharma, the FDA, dermotologists, clueless doctors, the greedy, absolutely and utterly souless, demonic, executives at Roche Pharmaceuticals spewing LIES LIES AND MORE LIES all for their corporate profit.

If I find other helpful information, I'll post it on this forum as well. I'm committed to the truth and the healing process - which may vary from individual to individual. But I think you're right when you say POSITIVE ATTITUDE is key and crucial to the healing process...this has been scientifically proven too.

Cheers!

Sweet man. Sounds like you have a well set out plan. I am interested to hear how the water fast works for you.

I want to to say thanks to the people in this forum as well for being awesome. And a big thanks to Oli Girl to first talk to me when I was in a depressive situation a few years ago.

Also, I have not recovered from all my side effects. But I have improved my health a lot since my Accutane use and am only getting healthier!

On 8/25/2012 at 12:39 AM, *Connor said:

^ I have not. I don't use supplements anymore. I find the best chemicals, akaloids, and vitamins come from living plants, or recently living plants. A concentrated form of a something does more harm than good in my honest experience.

"Iodine - Found in small amounts in green leafy vegetables and in larger amounts in seaweeds such as kelp. Daily amount: 150 micrograms." -[Edited link out]

My iodine intake is likely low. The foods I am eating don't have much in them. I will look for fresh seawood next time I go to the store and try that in my diet. I live next to a massive lake (Lake Erie), so there should be some.

Thank you for the suggestion.

I'm glad that you are investigating the iodine thing. I should tell you that I tried powdered kelp for a while but wasn't eating enough and didn't feel much effect, though I did feel some benefit in all the aforementioned areas, which at the time I assumed was only in my head...or perhaps attributable to some other factor. Also it is much harder to gauge dosage that way and I didn't want to overdo it either. So I started taking a liquid kelp that was like 4 drops = 150 mcg. This made sense to me because it was still kelp-based but more controllable and ultimately far more effective. It isn't like another pharmaceutical or something, so please don't throw out the baby and the tub with the bathwater...I mentioned before that I have seen a giant increase in moisture in my phlem, saliva production and eyes. Energy, depression, focus, puffy appearance, intense "angry" eye appearance have all but totally disappeared. The raw thing sounds great. I will try to phase more of that into my diet for sure. Thanks, and seriously look into the iodine thing. If you are adement about only using kelp or powdered kelp, make sure you get enough of it DAILY to make a difference. Like I said before, a controlled dose of 150 mcg of the liquid did the trick for me. Oh, and I always take Selenium as well which protects the thyroid if the issue is autoimmune-related (Hashimotos) which it could be. Best wishes! Mattie

On 8/26/2012 at 8:54 PM, Believe said:

[Edited link out]

Can we dissolve gallstones?

Cholesterol baCan we dissolve gallstones?

Cholesterol based gallstones can be dissolved with bear bile (Ursodiol, also known as ursodeoxycholic acid and the abbreviation UDCA). Lecithin may help dissolve cholesterol based gallstones. Increasing bile flow may help dissolve gallstones.

It may be impossible to dissolve Calcified gallstones. It may be impossible to dissolve Protein based gallstones.

There are unconfirmed reports that Calcified gallstones were dissolved with Freshly pressed radish juice or with some other vegetable or fruit juice. There are unconfirmed reports that Calcified gallstones were dissolved during a water fast.

Ursodeoxycholic acid goes by the trade names Actigall, Ursosan, Urso, Ursodiol and Urso Forte. In Italy, it is marketed under the name Deursil.

Ursodeoxycholic is naturally obrained from bear bile. Ursodeoxycholic acid can be chemically synthesized and was brought to market by the Montreal-based Axcan Pharma in 1998, which continues to market the drug.

The drug reduces cholesterol absorption and is used to dissolve (cholesterol) gallstones in patients who want an alternative to gallbladder surgery. sed gallstones can be dissolved with bear bile (Ursodiol, also known as ursodeoxycholic acid and the abbreviation UDCA). Lecithin may help dissolve cholesterol based gallstones. Increasing bile flow may help dissolve gallstones.

It may be impossible to dissolve Calcified gallstones. It may be impossible to dissolve Protein based gallstones.

There are unconfirmed reports that Calcified gallstones were dissolved with Freshly pressed radish juice or with some other vegetable or fruit juice. There are unconfirmed reports that Calcified gallstones were dissolved during a water fast.

Ursodeoxycholic acid goes by the trade names Actigall, Ursosan, Urso, Ursodiol and Urso Forte. In Italy, it is marketed under the name Deursil.

Ursodeoxycholic is naturally obrained from bear bile. Ursodeoxycholic acid can be chemically synthesized and was brought to market by the Montreal-based Axcan Pharma in 1998, which continues to market the drug.

The drug reduces cholesterol absorption and is used to dissolve (cholesterol) gallstones in patients who want an alternative to gallbladder surgery.

I have had great luck (along with many others) dissolving kidney stones with a mix of a shot glass filled with olive oil mixed with an equal amount of Apple Cider Vinegar. Do this once a day for 2 days for kidney stones at least but a quick search for gallstones and A.C.V. brought up a lot of links including this one from Livestrong which has specific instructions for dissolving gallstones that way: [Edited link out]

Bear bile is the worst kind of industry to support. I read that a momma bile bear in captivity struggled free and then strangled her cub and then rammed her head into a wall to commit suicide. The other alternative is synthetics, and we all know the hazards there, but if you must take it...Try iodine, man. It is the single thing that has by far helped me the most with everything from puffy appearance, depression, joint pain and body moisture. I take 150 mcg (daily dose) of liquid kelp and man, what a huge difference. It's food, too. Oh, and I always take Selenium as well which protects the thyroid if the issue is autoimmune. Good luck, dude!

I have done quite a lot of research on UDCA, here in Europe, that is, Austria, Germany and Switzerland, patients are usually prescribed Ursofalk, which does not come from the bile bear. You take it for 3 up to 24 month, which is the time needed to dissolve stones.It improves the functioning of your liver and gallbladder significantly as many studies have shown. Side effects are pretty much none.

As I stated before I am very experienced with liver flushing which is the only thing that made me normal again for extended periods of time, this is why I will go the UDCA route in the next months before I try anything else, like iodine.

Mattie,

I ordered the Liquid kelp product you said about, so i really god-damn hope I get the same results as you!!!

Was only 6, so worth a try, right!?!

Thanks for the post Mattie. I believe that food like kelp work so well is because it is organic and packed with natural minerals. This is what the body wants. Not chemicals and processed 'foods'.

I am watching a video by Rober Cassar right now. He information is logical and makes sense to me. "How do I get my life back? Simple. Remineralize your body."

Check it out. I am learning a lot from it.

On 8/27/2012 at 3:19 AM, CHIRON said:

On 8/25/2012 at 12:39 AM, *Connor said:

^ I have not. I don't use supplements anymore. I find the best chemicals, akaloids, and vitamins come from living plants, or recently living plants. A concentrated form of a something does more harm than good in my honest experience.

"Iodine - Found in small amounts in green leafy vegetables and in larger amounts in seaweeds such as kelp. Daily amount: 150 micrograms." -[Edited link out]

My iodine intake is likely low. The foods I am eating don't have much in them. I will look for fresh seawood next time I go to the store and try that in my diet. I live next to a massive lake (Lake Erie), so there should be some.

Thank you for the suggestion.

I'm glad that you are investigating the iodine thing. I should tell you that I tried powdered kelp for a while but wasn't eating enough and didn't feel much effect, though I did feel some benefit in all the aforementioned areas, which at the time I assumed was only in my head...or perhaps attributable to some other factor. Also it is much harder to gauge dosage that way and I didn't want to overdo it either. So I started taking a liquid kelp that was like 4 drops = 150 mcg. This made sense to me because it was still kelp-based but more controllable and ultimately far more effective. It isn't like another pharmaceutical or something, so please don't throw out the baby and the tub with the bathwater...I mentioned before that I have seen a giant increase in moisture in my phlem, saliva production and eyes. Energy, depression, focus, puffy appearance, intense "angry" eye appearance have all but totally disappeared. The raw thing sounds great. I will try to phase more of that into my diet for sure. Thanks, and seriously look into the iodine thing. If you are adement about only using kelp or powdered kelp, make sure you get enough of it DAILY to make a difference. Like I said before, a controlled dose of 150 mcg of the liquid did the trick for me. Oh, and I always take Selenium as well which protects the thyroid if the issue is autoimmune-related (Hashimotos) which it could be. Best wishes! Mattie

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Can we dissolve gallstones?

Cholesterol baCan we dissolve gallstones?

Cholesterol based gallstones can be dissolved with bear bile (Ursodiol, also known as ursodeoxycholic acid and the abbreviation UDCA). Lecithin may help dissolve cholesterol based gallstones. Increasing bile flow may help dissolve gallstones.

It may be impossible to dissolve Calcified gallstones. It may be impossible to dissolve Protein based gallstones.

There are unconfirmed reports that Calcified gallstones were dissolved with Freshly pressed radish juice or with some other vegetable or fruit juice. There are unconfirmed reports that Calcified gallstones were dissolved during a water fast.

Ursodeoxycholic acid goes by the trade names Actigall, Ursosan, Urso, Ursodiol and Urso Forte. In Italy, it is marketed under the name Deursil.

Ursodeoxycholic is naturally obrained from bear bile. Ursodeoxycholic acid can be chemically synthesized and was brought to market by the Montreal-based Axcan Pharma in 1998, which continues to market the drug.

The drug reduces cholesterol absorption and is used to dissolve (cholesterol) gallstones in patients who want an alternative to gallbladder surgery. sed gallstones can be dissolved with bear bile (Ursodiol, also known as ursodeoxycholic acid and the abbreviation UDCA). Lecithin may help dissolve cholesterol based gallstones. Increasing bile flow may help dissolve gallstones.

It may be impossible to dissolve Calcified gallstones. It may be impossible to dissolve Protein based gallstones.

There are unconfirmed reports that Calcified gallstones were dissolved with Freshly pressed radish juice or with some other vegetable or fruit juice. There are unconfirmed reports that Calcified gallstones were dissolved during a water fast.

Ursodeoxycholic acid goes by the trade names Actigall, Ursosan, Urso, Ursodiol and Urso Forte. In Italy, it is marketed under the name Deursil.

Ursodeoxycholic is naturally obrained from bear bile. Ursodeoxycholic acid can be chemically synthesized and was brought to market by the Montreal-based Axcan Pharma in 1998, which continues to market the drug.

The drug reduces cholesterol absorption and is used to dissolve (cholesterol) gallstones in patients who want an alternative to gallbladder surgery.

I have had great luck (along with many others) dissolving kidney stones with a mix of a shot glass filled with olive oil mixed with an equal amount of Apple Cider Vinegar. Do this once a day for 2 days for kidney stones at least but a quick search for gallstones and A.C.V. brought up a lot of links including this one from Livestrong which has specific instructions for dissolving gallstones that way: [Edited link out]

Bear bile is the worst kind of industry to support. I read that a momma bile bear in captivity struggled free and then strangled her cub and then rammed her head into a wall to commit suicide. The other alternative is synthetics, and we all know the hazards there, but if you must take it...Try iodine, man. It is the single thing that has by far helped me the most with everything from puffy appearance, depression, joint pain and body moisture. I take 150 mcg (daily dose) of liquid kelp and man, what a huge difference. It's food, too. Oh, and I always take Selenium as well which protects the thyroid if the issue is autoimmune. Good luck, dude!

Thanks for the heads up on liquid kelp, that totally makes sense. All fat soluble toxins affect the thyroid. When people suffer from radiation poisoning, the thyroid gets destroyed, people can end up with thyroid cancer or leukemia in cases of radiation poisoning like what happened with chernobyl, it's very sad. Like gulf war syndrome when tanks were using depleted uranium shells to pierce the armour of other tanks. These vets suffered with terrible problems related to radiation sickness, because radiative compounds are fat soluble and latch onto the thyroid, disrupting their function. Maybe accutane has disrupted the thyroid being a fat soluble toxin itself and the kelp restored it, causing the reduction of symptoms. Do you take it sublingually or drink it with water etc. How do you take it? Also what brand of liquid kelp do you use?

I might try that myself.

Thanks for the heads up on liquid kelp, that totally makes sense. All fat soluble toxins affect the thyroid. When people suffer from radiation poisoning, the thyroid gets destroyed, people can end up with thyroid cancer or leukemia in cases of radiation poisoning like what happened with chernobyl, it's very sad. Like gulf war syndrome when tanks were using depleted uranium shells to pierce the armour of other tanks. These vets suffered with terrible problems related to radiation sickness, because radiative compounds are fat soluble and latch onto the thyroid, disrupting their function. Maybe accutane has disrupted the thyroid being a fat soluble toxin itself and the kelp restored it, causing the reduction of symptoms. Do you take it sublingually or drink it with water etc. How do you take it? Also what brand of liquid kelp do you use?

 

I might try that myself.

 

I use World Organic brand liquid kelp, but many people have had good luck with Iodoral which is a tablet form of the regular old Lugol's 2% iodine solution. I don't know if my brand is actually organic especially if it's wild harvested but it does work wonders. There are probably other brands that work well, too. Iodine itself has been around for a few hundred years I think. Because no one can patent it, it's inexpensive and tried and true. Sad about these soldiers.

Could someone clue me in on any conclusions this thread has reached? I don't feel like looking through the 86 pages of posts.

Specifically, I'm talking about information on the actual causes of the long-term side effects. I want to know why eating foods containing vitamin A (eggs, dairy) worsen my side effects. Is it that Accutane is still in my body, or that the way my body processes vitamin A has been F'd up?

Has anyone found relief from the above side effects?

Does anyone get WAVES of symptoms? I have had this problem for years whereby a couple of times a day my eyes feel more blood shot, the top and back of my head have a 'fuzzy' feeling, my lips feel tight and also my cheeks feel tighter.

My symptoms are consistent, but everyday they get magnified for a period and I don't know what is triggering it. Anyone have similar experiences?

Does anyone get WAVES of symptoms? I have had this problem for years whereby a couple of times a day my eyes feel more blood shot, the top and back of my head have a 'fuzzy' feeling, my lips feel tight and also my cheeks feel tighter.

 

My symptoms are consistent, but everyday they get magnified for a period and I don't know what is triggering it. Anyone have similar experiences?

 

YES, I do!

Im in a really bad "wave" right now. Dry skin, exhausted, irritated and worst of all, I still get pimples. A wave can last for 2-5 days, and its often really tough. It can really wipe me out.

Sometimes I would say Im completely symptom free, but mostly some symptoms are present. Im not even sure if my symptoms are caused by long-term damage from Accutane, but it feels like i have checked everything else from my list.

This is a complete list of symptoms thats making my life really crappy:

• Dry, flaky skin. (No moisturizer have helped med so far. It can often make things worse. Any similar experiences?)
• Pimples, often caused by the dry skin I believe.
• Skin gets bruised after carrying heavy stuff on my shoulders, i.e. a backpack. Any similar experiences?
• Depression. Not sure if caused by the other symptoms or if Im just depressed.
• Upset stomach.
• Hyperthyroidism. Currently treating this with medicine, but I havent had any positive effects yet.

Thats what I could think about for now. Im 26 now, and this is really starting to wear me out.

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Sorry, because this is pretty irrelevant.

Ordered some more supplements by the way! Haha, I guess I just talk shit.

But hey, I felt like it.

- St John's Wort

- More of the Hyaluronic acid moisturising cream as it seems pretty good - I know this isn't a supplement

- A couple of bottles of multi-mineral liquid

- Some artichoke, as mentioned by Believe.

Should get the iodine liquid this week.

PLEASE work, just in time for my Music course!?!?!?!

Hey Indigo. I watched your video. I am sorry about your girlfriend. I know the feeling of being cheated on by someone I loved, or thought I loved. It sucks. But for me it turned out to be great, as I realized how trivial the whole ordeal was and I started focusing on greater things.

Some comments on your video I agree with. "cut out all the pesticides, refined foods, grains and factory meats, and all other chemicals that you put in your mouth or on your body. Do exercise" and "Although a vegan diet may start off feeling dull, eventually you'll get used to it.".

I really don't see it being possible to recover eating chemicals that slow the body down. I'm referring to processed things like flours, sugars, grains, salts, dead meat. I have only realized recently why this stuff is such garbage and why people that eat it are sick. I have been eating it for 20 years! No more! I'm on day 4 of eating raw and am feeling a lot better. The most noticeable being it is easier to breathe, my stomach does not have a lot of pain (it usually does), my blood is flowing better and I feel warmer.

If you haven't watched this video yet, I really suggest you take the time to. It gave me an "Aha!" moment. Robert uses a cool experiment to show how living foods with high minerals are conductive. And how dead foods with no minerals are not.

Human are like machines in a sense, we conduct heat and electricity. We need conductive foods for this energy. Minerals!

Processed stuff and dead stuff does not have many minerals (a lot of the times none). It is damaging to eat these lifeless foods and parasites in our body thrive on it and make us sick.

I am going to work my way up the ladder of healthy foods. For now, as many organic plants as possible. Later, I want to find local farmers markets to see if they have plants with higher minerals, which is usually the case.

Remember, an inorganic plant with very little minerals is still much better than eating something that has none at all.

Here is the video. Yeah light!

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Sorry, because this is pretty irrelevant.

Ordered some more supplements by the way! Haha, I guess I just talk shit.

But hey, I felt like it.

- St John's Wort

- More of the Hyaluronic acid moisturising cream as it seems pretty good - I know this isn't a supplement

- A couple of bottles of multi-mineral liquid

- Some artichoke, as mentioned by Believe.

Should get the iodine liquid this week.

PLEASE work, just in time for my Music course!?!?!?!

Iodine should help a lot. Just a note, you might want to take for a few days on, a few off. A lot of these supplements work but you don't want to overdo it...It's good to give the body a chance to adjust (and rest). Err on the side of less, and also selenium will protect the thyroid if the issue turns out to be autoimmune in nature. Have you looked into food grade hydrogen peroxide? This also looks promising in an oxygenating way. I will experiment and get back. I like your vid dude, good luck with your music thing.

Okay guys I made a video about my raw diet experience so far. While rendering this video, I had the best shit I have had in MONTHS. It was about a foot long and had great compisition. Not to dry, not too wet. Felt amazing. A+ turd. Haha. In seriousness though it is sign of good health. I was having diarhea often before starting my raw diet.

Yeah!

Also I have not been eating only raw fruits and vegies the last few days. I have eaten some raw nuts as well.

Some things for me to work on is exercising more. Ever since I started working online I haven't been exercising consistently.

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