On 7/2/2018 at 8:59 AM, Biggest Brother said:

Hi Guys,

Lots of great material i've been reading from this thread I appreciate the findings. I'd like to know your thoughts on my brother who is experiencing this issue. He is 26 years old, nurse working in the ER.

Context: It's been about 2 months so far, he took 1 dose at 20 mg and stopped. Within two hours of taking the one dose he started to feel his body change. He explains that he feels, brain fog, dry eyes, dry skin, joint pain, anxiety, depression, and suicide. When I asked him to describe the pain he says the biggest issue ishis eyes always feel like there is sand in it. That when he wakes up his eyes feel like they were never asleep.

Action Plan: So far we found a natural path who has got him on a bunch of supplements such as, multi-vitamin, zetox, berberine, and about 6 other natural supplements (sorry I'm not at his house at the moment so i can't see the rest) He's been getting massages, runs daily, acupuncture. So far it's been two weeks on this detox program he's mentioned that his bowel movements have become much more regular than when he took accutane(1st month). And sorry it's not accutane but the generic version of accutane in the states.

While coming up with our own action plan initially our firsttheory we was that the accutane was every where in his body and it needed to find a type of food while digesting to bind to while excreting it from his body. This seemed logical because he started to have more regular bowel movements, but he started to notice that his body doesn't seem to be absorbing the tremendous amounts of water hes been drinking.

Results so far: There were two days out of the 2 month period where he said his eyes were burning, but recently he says that his eyes have felt like they're getting better. As mentioned, his bowel movements have become much more regular. However, we do continue to go through these mood phases "confident it will leave", to the initial mood type of "depressive anxiety, and the biggest is anger". I almost feel like he cannot get past a mental block.

So far i've reached out to everyone locally, a handful of derms all of which said that accutane side effects only have a two week half life and should leave the body soon(yikes they have no idea about how many patients are going through this) I'm considering speaking to oncology department to see if they can provide me with more insight (perhaps suggestions about what onocology patients do to recover from cancer treatment). I've reached out to a doctor that claims fasting will work but very dangerous(we're against this). Lastly, I found someone named Lewis Rowlands in the UK who has experienced the same symptoms my brother has gone through and claims to be fully recovered and reverted his symptoms. So we've gone forward with his strategy of providing a hair analysis and will circle back with an action plan.

Lastly, after seeing videos and doing research, I did suggest to the natural path if zinc would be good for him and 4 days after taking the multi vitamin with zinc he mentioned that his eyes felt better. Not sure if that's a directcorrelation, but im playing with a theory that his mineral levels are all off and the slightest vitamin % adjustments could be that much more effective. Some how acupuncture seems to be effective I just can't figure out how. One of the pain management providers I spoke with told me that he had a patient that had permanent nerve damage, sought out a acupuncturist in china that was able to heal him 100% whole.

My goal is to document as much of this process as I can and to share my brothers experience and story with as many people considering this drug because the numbers published are simply skewed when it comes to side effects. I browse reddit to see all these people with success before/after photos but internally i hope theyknow they might be paying for it years later. Is that really worth it? Quality of life will suffer dramatically.

Looking forward to the feedback and support!

Update: We've found another natural path that has a different approach to the previous natural path. We will still treat this holistically as a systemic problem however, we will first focus on complete detox of the liver and then address individual issues(eyes) after the liver has been completely detoxed. She has also got him using Taurine. He will also be getting his Zinc, Copper, T3, Cortisol, DHE and testosterone levels checked with blood work.

Thank you FCHAWK for writing a detailed summary i've been eager to hear your feedback.

Can you provide the research please? I'm interested in this as well.

Your in good hands with FCHAWK. Keep going with natural.

Please report your sides.

There is a team of lawyers in the US who I believe want to hear from guys in the US so if anyone wants their details PM me.

On 6/30/2018 at 4:43 AM, marshl1 said:

@AkosIm really sorry to hear about the condition of your eyes and a lot of what you say sounds very familiar to me. Like I said for a long time I blamed the LASIK procedure for my symptoms. Having surgery on your eyes is a very unnatural thing and the psychological impact of this was huge for me since my eyes never felt healthy post surgery. That said it was explained to me many times that this surgery takes place on the outer surface of the eye only. Vitreous floaters occur inside the eyeball which isn't effected by LASIK.
Because i've had this surgery my eyes have been observed extensively by professionals. I was followed up many times and I have paid for second and third opinions by several ophthalmologists in London UK where I live. I don't believe my floaters were caused by the surgery.
Dryness is more common after LASIK but people rarely get photophobia especially long lasting photophobia.
I had some dryness even before I had the surgery or took accutane just simply from wearing contact lenses but I never had photophobia. This dryness never bothered me.
Anyway i'll try and make some meaningful point about this. I believe that Accutane just like high dose vitamin A is extremely damaging for the eyes and I believe it damaged my eyes.
There is a huge point of contention which in my opinion is central to this Accutane side effect debate and it is to do with vitamin A. 99.9% of people will tell you that vitamin A is essential to life and essential for eye health. After reading the research of Grant Genereux I think this is completely false. I highly recommend you read his ebooks.
A quick example concerning the eyes and vitamin A (btw once in the body vitamin A is converted to retinoic acid a molecule very similar to 13-cis-retinoic acid which is accutane, it makes sense to me that they work in a very similar way to poison the body), in the medical literature the symptoms of chronic hypervitaminosis A and vitamin A deficiency are the same, how can that be?
I have many of the symptoms of chronic hypervitaminosis A from taking Accutane and my eye symptoms are just some of them.Accutane took my body to dangerous levels of toxicity and by continuing to consume Vitamin A I have been maintaining these dangerous levels which explains why a lot of my symptoms are relapsing - remitting (they come and go).
The current research on vitamin A says that it is essential to eye health but my it was a retinoid that caused the damage to my eyes in the first place. The point is that I shouldn't be able to remove this from my diet without this causing some further damage to my eyes if you believe the current research but I have massively reduced my vitamin A consumption over the last 6 weeks and i am absolutely fine. Grant Genereux has been on a zero vitamin A diet for 4 years and his eyes are perfectly healthy. In fact this zero vitamin A diet has resolved many very serious health issues that he was suffering from. He has also carried this experiment out on his pet rats who's eyes look in perfect health, shiny and moist. He also uses photographs of survivors from the Dachau concentration camp to make the same point. These poor people are obviously extremely emaciated. They have consumed zero vitamin A but you can see that there eyes are also in perfect health. There eyes are showing no signs of so called Vitamin A deficiency. How can this be the case if Vitamin A is essential to eye health?
Anyway I think I've made my point.
I feel your pain and I genuinely want to help. What is life without healthy eyes. If you believe Accutane caused this damage to your eyes then I believe avoiding vitamin A will go a long way to allowing your eyes to heal.
You should also get your meibomian glands checked for blockages. Don't take fish oil it's extremely high in vitamin A. A hot wet cloth compression for 5 mins in the morning whilst deep breathing can help. I actually have some rather expensive steam eye goggles which i've only used a couple of times. It's called Blephasteam. If you think it will help you and you want it you can have it. Just let me know and i'll see if I can send it to you.
Sorry this post wasn't supposed to be so long but I can't stand to see people suffering if I think I can help.

All the best,
Lee

@marshl1Hi. I am sorry, I was not clear enough. When, at the beginning, I said eye problems I was talking about dryness principally. I dont know about eye floaters. I you didnt have them before Accutane, most probably they were caused by it. Cant you get habituated to them? Just be careful not to do any invasive and risky treatment which can have adverse effects, you have already done it twice.

I may be wrong, but what I learned about dry eyes is that it usually develops gradually and could have several causes, and these causes have a cumulative effect. I you had dry eyes before everything, then Lasik could have dried them a bit more, and then Accutane could have dried them a bit more. I am sure a lot of people after Accutane dry a bit their eyes, but they dont realize because, for example, they dont use contact lenses. And some of them can have dry eye problems some years later, because the dryness progresses.

About photophobia and the relationship with dry eye, I already wrote my doubts. I dont know what Accutane could do to produce this specific photophobia, which seems to be superficial (I mean, caused by something closer than the optic nerve), not like the photophobia that people with migraines have, or the one arisen from a problem with the optic nerve, which are stronger and different.

So there is a possibility that Accutane can only dry the eye, but not produce the photophobia by itself. Being dry, the eye is more weak and prone to have further problems, as happen with other parts of the body that Accutane could affect. For example, being dry, eyes could more easily get strained because of the computer or the sunlight, or cause the currently called computer vision syndrome. I am just speculating too much in my opinion. The only way to discard my theory about a non-clinically-visible eye strain is to try the Radical Rest. Of course, it could also be a chronic, non-reversible eye strain.

But you said in other more recent post that your photophobia got better recently thats good! You tell me Did you do something special? Did your dryness get better too, proportionally? Do you work a lot with the computer?

About compresses, to be honest, I never did them too systematically, maybe because I didnt notice any interesting effect. Taking a shower usually improves dryness temporally, better than a compress. I dont have a microwave to try dry compresses, with these pads you buy. Dont you use the Blephasteam? I guess it is not so useful? Please have it yourself, or sell it on Ebay. I really appreciate your help, thank you!

In my city, at least with my prepaid medical system, I cant get a meibography. And the doctors I consulted said it is not too useful, at least in my case. The thing is, imagine the problem is mainly with the lipid layer and the meiboniam glands (I dont know for sure it is about this), and these glands are affected in the way than the sebaceous glands of the face are, probably they have a more or less normal aspect, or they are a bit atrophied, or with this bigger or lower cell differentiation or whatever, but surely with less lipid output, what can I do? It is not that they are blocked, or inflamed (I used Restasis, and a corticoid, totally in vain), only that they produce fewer lipids. By the way, Restasis doesnt seem dangerous, but it seems to be another big over-prescribed scam of the pharma-medical industry, taking advantage of vulnerable people.

Did you get a differential diagnosis about your dry eyes? Did they tell you MGD or you also have aqueous deficiency? Do you have reduced goblet cell population in the conjunctiva? (I do have, which I suspect is normal in any dry eye, and Lactoferrin and Lysozyme are low, which would indicate diminished aqueous layer)

@marshl1I read the first three chapters of Poisoning for profits, and also chapter 6, the one where he talks about POWs prisoners.

I should continue reading, but I think it is interesting. I am sure this kind of logical nonsense is very common in the scientific world. What is particular in this analysis is that what he criticizes is not small, it is not about a particular practice or drug, but about a huge and massive misunderstanding, in the sense that it has to do with a lot of health problems but also with the whole industry of food.

What I can say for the moment is that Vit A deficiency, as it was described, seems to be a myth, and I get where he is going with his critic of Vit A supplementation, creams with Vit A, etc. And this is just the beginning, I will continue reading it. I still havent read the explanation of how the Vit A deficiency experiments were in fact high RA experiments.

Regarding our particular issue with Accutane Does the author propose somewhere the zero VA diet for post-Accutane sufferers? It makes sense that not consuming vit A would help the body to regenerate or cure, if the retinoic acid is in the body, or maybe even if RA is not in the body, but merely changed things when it was in the body. But especially in the first case. In principle, not consuming Vit A would have no risks, but I dont know if it is necessary for something (does he talk about the retina?)

There is a possibility that once certain parts of the body change, they couldnt return to the original state. The path is not the same. And the paths could be different for the different parts affected. I havent studied the topic too much, but I read about people who said after 5 or 6 years all the side effects have disappeared, but also after 10 years sebum and acne returned as before, but now I have dry eyes and Rheumatoid Arthritis. So I dont know.

I asked a couple of questions before, in page 631, which nobody answered. These:

On 6/18/2018 at 12:10 AM, Akos said:

How an over-accumulation of vitamin A could be the cause of acne and prevent acne (Accutane)? Arent those two affirmations contradictory?

I suppose a blood test measures the quantity of VA in the blood? But is there a way to measure VA/RA in the skin lipids?

The first one I could answer myself. Yes, it is a contradiction.

And about the second. What are those skin lipids exactly? I guess it is not sebum, which it is produce and then it goes continually. Is he talking about certain lipids that are less renewable? Cant we analyze these lipids?

Another thing is that current ophthalmologists, when you have dry eyes, dont talk about vit A deficiency. If some of them send you to do a blood test for retinol is very uncommon, and they do it just to follow the manual. But current dry eye manual talks about a lot of possible causes, vit A deficiency among them, which I guess is never confirmed as the real cause. And probably a lot of doctors dont really care about the cause, they give you lubricants, or they hurry to prescribe Restasis, without even knowing if there is inflammation. And even in the cases of a suspected inflammation, Allergan itself admits it is like 10% effective, so you can imagine. Moreover, in those 10% who reported improvements, Allergan itself admits it could not be the cyclosporine, but just the vehicle (the rest of the components, like castor oil). That is why Allergan withdrew Endura UD from the market (it had another name in USA), which has basically the same componentswithout the cyclosporine, at least in certain places. And by the way, Endura UD burns like hell.

I am sorry, but I think I wrote more than you.

On 6/30/2018 at 4:47 AM, Benjamin94 said:

To those saying that I dont know what Im doing taking this. I have acne all over my chest, back, shoulders and forearms. I watched it spread for years and didnt ask to take this drug, because I knew what this drug was. Only when Iit spread onto my forearms did I finally give up.

To those who wrote this:

Your doctor just wrote Accutane in a piece of paper, but YOU are taking it.

There is a chance than next year you will remember me, when the temporal effect of Accutane ends and your acne returns. Or, if you manage to get a permanent effect on sebum production, you will remember me some day in the future, when you experience some strange effects, mixed up with your depression.

I guess you have already decided how much temporal or permanent you want the effect to be, and what exact dose you have to take to achieve that result.

Good luck with the experiment!

On 6/30/2018 at 4:02 PM, Jason3 said:

As I said before, isotretinoin doing damage to some while they are taking it is the only plausible explanation in my mind. Hypervitaminosis A stops after you stop taking the retinoid. It doesnt stay with you forever, stored in your fat or whatever else. I just had a Retinol test last week for fun as part of my annual nutrition testing and I was middle of the range normal.

Retinoids bind to RXR and can switch things on and off potentially affecting the genome which in turn can makethese side effects permanent. That is what stays with you for the rest of your life, not the drug or some bacteria.

@Jason3But the effect of Accutane is temporal, or at least temporal. That is how the drug and the treatment were designed to be. Roche itself says that sebum production returns to its original level one month after the last pill.

When sebum dont return to its original level, it seems that a kind of threshold is surpassed (a threshold related to the dose and the particular patient).

So, when the threshold is surpassed, there is a quantitative difference, not a qualitative one.

According to your theory, what is exactly this threshold about? In other words, what is it affected, which depends on the accumulated quantity of retinoic acid, that allegedly change this expression of genes permanently, and not temporarily, as it should be?

On 7/6/2018 at 3:17 PM, Dubya_B said:

alteration of conjunctival flora

Accutane.
alteration of skin flora
probably including alteration of scalp flora
alteration of sinus flora, including ears, nose, throat
probably alteration in GI tract, including colon.

This is a study id be concerned about.
Even on low dose.
see how this is from 2018?
Trust a drug from the seventies?

Low-doseisotretinointherapy and blood lipid abnormality: A case series with sixty patients.

I've been getting really bad cramps anytime i take vitamin d or eat calcium rich foods so I stopped both. I imagine theres some imbalance in regulating calcium so I tried taking vitamin k. K2 makes me feel awful amd 2 caps of k1 does the same. I feel tired, lethargic amd sluggish but k1 dramatically improves my skin.

Anyone have any theories why I react so poorly to vitamin K and what the hell is up with these cramps?! I take plenty of mag and potassium already..

I assume you know its often advised to take Vit D with Vit K, perhaps you should experiment with this combo and see if you still have cramp issues or calcium absorption issues?

Im limited in knowledge but IMO magnesium supplementing can only be a good thing esp for cramping.

On 7/8/2018 at 5:06 PM, Caprisunny said:

I often read accutane can speed up MPB but how does this work?

I had diffuse hair loss everywhere (entire body), not just the scalp.

On 7/9/2018 at 5:07 AM, childofsungod said:

According to a recent ultrasound they are both at around the 10ml mark, whilst the average is 20ml.

What was the follow up? they didnt find any issues with blood flow?
oh wait they did.
you have a left sidedvaricocelethat was found on ultrasound?

11 hours ago, MonsterDiesel said:

I've been getting really bad cramps anytime i take vitamin d

Yea I did too.
I have looked extensively into vitamin k2 as the long chain form synthesized from bacteria.
So now im looking at the bacteria itself.
supplementing vitamin k might not make sense.
it might not be how it works in nature.

@MonsterDiesel
on the topic of k2. You look into this thread and later find out that this person had taken Accutane previously as well and seemed to have a extreme reaction to k2.
Weird Reaction to Vitamin K2
https://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/68130-weird-reaction-to-vitamin-k2/

6 hours ago, Devolution said:

My skin keeps burning, getting pins and needles

Yes as well.
emg was neg.

On 7/7/2018 at 4:04 AM, Biggest Brother said:

We did this meiobian gland therapy which massaged the glands with heat to help push the blocked oil out

This almost makes me think there is muscle involvement which might include blood flow.
As to something being "choked out" from blood flow to gland function.

8 hours ago, Devolution said:

Does anyone know how to treat small fiber neuropathy or any type of neuropathy for that matter? My skin keeps burning, getting pins and needles or feels dead if i lay on it, my whole body is a lot more desensitized to touch and I can't really gauge temperature,i find it hard to feel the heat, stillcan't really smell etc, just curious ifanyone has any ideas how to minimise this, im not sure if its SFN but i genuinely can't see what else it can be.
thanks.

if you can rule out b6 toxicity and compression from slipped disks or the like, then use b12/b6/b1 injections to help the nerves heal. If you can't do injections, oral pills also work. Also check homocysteine and Iron levels, make sure they are within range.

2 hours ago, guitarman01 said:

@MonsterDiesel
on the topic of k2. You look into this thread and later find out that this person had taken Accutane previously as well and seemed to have a extreme reaction to k2.
Weird Reaction to Vitamin K2
https://www.longecity.org/forum/topic/68130-weird-reaction-to-vitamin-k2/

I posted on that thread too. I'm the one that had all the medical tests to figure out what had happened. I actually forgot all about that. K1 at 200 mcg made me feel a little like that but I'm convinced there is a problem with calcification and it improves my skin almost overnight. I took 5k vitamin d and 600 mg magnesium when i came home and I do feel better. Added another 200 mcg of k1 and that felt fine.

I have a theory that this dose is mobilizing calcium from the periphery (arteries, joints, etc) and moving it around to the bones hopefully. Just make sure you take all the cofactors. I should probably add taurine but I don't tolerate it well. I become slow and lethargic. Maybe with this combo it wont affect me.

I also noticed I tend to bleed more since using K1- which is counterintuitive. But it's never a bright red bleed, more like dark colored. Next time I feel unwell like this, I'll measure my calcium levels.

On that note, we should have a separate thread to discuss abnormal lab readings. I've tested tons of stuff, but have only found a couple of abnormalities..

Alright so I have a few questions. I am a 20 y/o guy and I took accutane last year (5 months on 30 mg per day and 1 month on 60 mg per day) and today I am left with severe eye, mouth, nose dryness (similar to sjogrens syndrome). The dryness is at its worst in the morning, after waking up. My lips are fine, they are never dry anymore but my throat gets so dry in the night. I went to an eye doctor and she told me my meibomian glands are in very poor condition. She told me to massage and use eye drops but its not helping much. I also notice some lower back pain throughout the day which I didnt have before accutane... I am just looking for a cure.. Do you think it will get better in the next years? I think its possible that my body needs more time to heal from this. Or at least I hope so. Dont want these problems for the rest of my life...

Sorry to hear youve got side effects.

I think Im accurate in saying that the majority of people who get the bad side effects have yet to find a cure so youll have to prepare yourself for years of issues Im afraid, a lifetime of issues? - that remains to be seen....

Having said that, not everyone gets stuck in this loop, there are examples of people curing themselves or at least that is what they are saying so dont give up!!

Continue to work with a trusted GP but there are also great alternative doctors, whilst they wont have a cure, they will help you deal/treat some of your issues and make it bearable for you.

Time alone will absolutely NOT heal you Im afraid!!

On 7/11/2018 at 7:21 PM, Devolution said:

has anyone on this forum ever got a skin biopsy to test thier small fibers?

This looks like a fairly new method of testing. I wonder how easy this test would be to come by.
Maybe more so in a university or clinic setting. Not sure if its standardized, covered by insurance?
Something to look into.  

speaking of skin. what is normally found on the surface looking at the microbiome?
could a biopsy reveal this as well?

The Normal Bacterial Flora of Humans 
http://textbookofbacteriology.net/normalflora.html

Figure 4. Colonies of Propionibacterium acnes, found on skin and the conjunctiva.

Took Accutane in 2009 Myself
Found the cure
Fast for as long as possible, 20 days is a good number to work for.

When your fast is over eat farm fresh food. Remember we are designed to eat fruits vegitables and the seeds.

Have a nicce day

Could you describe your side effects please?

Fasting wont cure bowel cancer which tane can cause, so cure....hmmm

too vague a post, theres a multitude of issues one can face after tane, youd need to know what youre doing to get to a 20 day fast!!

If you dont, youll do more harm than good.

@aforsbergplease share some details about your story. I woul really appreciate it

22 hours ago, baffo900 said:

@aforsbergplease share some details about your story. I woul really appreciate it

^ This guy is a troll, a fraud, and an attempted small-time scammer.

Evidence here: https://www.acne.org/messageboard/topic/295030-repairing-the-long-term-damage-from-accutane/?page=251

Aforsberg/fobbaguy/awashington/accutanereallysucks lied about being a dermatologist to sell " a guide to recovering from accutane" for $5 per download that supposedly contained nothing more than ways to increase oil production.

.

Its crazy its been all these years and theres still no cure or solution (maybe Im losing my mind). Crazier that no test shows anything is wrong.

3 hours ago, Mabbbs said:

Its crazy its been all these years and theres still no cure or solution (maybe Im losing my mind). Crazier that no test shows anything is wrong.

Hang on, what about the post just above about fasting and a cure, is that real?

It gets followed up by someone else saying the person is a fraud, so how are we ever going to find a cure with people still coming in here and bullshiting the rest of us??

Or, is the person not bullshiting? What a joy it is to be a tane victim....its all so exciting.

14 hours ago, TrueJustice said:

Hang on, what about the post just above about fasting and a cure, is that real?

It gets followed up by someone else saying the person is a fraud, so how are we ever going to find a cure with people still coming in here and bullshiting the rest of us??

Or, is the person not bullshiting? What a joy it is to be a tane victim....its all so exciting.

Not sure about the cure someone posted tbh, but I legit only eat one meal per day so im like fasting everyday (due to my food intolerances bc of accutane) and yeah it doesnt really cure anything. What are your symptoms? How long have you been a victim?

On 7/15/2018 at 10:11 AM, Devolution said:

On 7/14/2018 at 1:24 PM, guitarman01 said:

This looks like a fairly new method of testing. I wonder how easy this test would be to come by.

I know Dr. Healy was asking people to get it doneto see if people with PSSD have SFN but i think its quite expensive, 300 or so for the test. Be interesting all the same if it is covered by insurance.

300 sounds cheap actually. Unless you meant 3,000.

btw regarding tests.
a recap.
you had someone show some low grade brain inflammation going on from a Mayo clinic analyzed PET head scan.
@Babis
he also tested positive for a pretty rare antibody.
acetylcholine ganglionic neuronal antibody.
So did I.
I tried looking into this a little bit. No local drs are familiar with it. Even including a nero at UW Madison.
This can also affect the gastro system.
it basically could be a autoimmune attack on the nervous system.
Don't quote me on that.
Getting to a place like Mayo is prob a good idea. After you have some type of case built up or maybe some idea of what might be going on.
I might try in the future, I dont have insurance atm.

switching gears been looking at a couple things
a hormone that seems to regulate alot
somatostatin.
inhibits digestion?

Somatostatin - Wikipedia

on the other side of the spectrum.
Lactic Acid

1. Increases Testosterone
2. Increases Human Growth Hormone
3. Is Used as Fuel

Special cells called Leydig use lactic acid to suck up cholesterol and convert it intotestosterone.
Without lactic acid... your bodyrefusesto doanyof the exciting things such as producing more testosterone, growth hormone and energy.

its also a powerful antibiotic thats looking to replace "antibiotics"
you can find it in things like palmoliveantibacterialsoap.

Brain metabolism[edit]

Althoughglucoseis usually assumed to be the main energy source for living tissues, there are some indications that it is lactate, and notglucose, that is preferentially metabolized byneuronsin thebrainof severalmammalianspecies

lactic acid is also produced by some commensalbacteria

Did anyone here do an MRI for their joints?

Anyone here uses Cordyceps already? I could not go a day without i now.

On 7/14/2018 at 5:54 PM, aforsberg said:

Took Accutane in 2009 Myself
Found the cure
Fast for as long as possible, 20 days is a good number to work for.

When your fast is over eat farm fresh food. Remember we are designed to eat fruits vegitables and the seeds.

Have a nicce day

This has been on my mind lately. What changes would a long fast produce? Longest I went was 3 days. Other Tane users fasted this long and saw improvements?