Acne.org Products
On 6/26/2012 at 1:07 AM, IndigoRush said:[Content removed]
If you live in the U.S. you can get Garden of Life at Whole Foods. They acutally have a raw version of the probotic...It cost more and has to be in the fridge! I take them everyday.....Hope all is well Indigo!
As for Joseph - I would assume you just started this regime correct???? Interesting to see how long it lasts [Edited image out]
I hear you! I'm 31, female, and was put on Accutane at age 16, for 9 months. For 15 years now, I have had...
1. 9 years of severe depression including 2 suicide attempts. (Very limited depression now, thank goodness!)
2. IBS, chronic, and still getting worse.
3. No hair loss, but my hair actually changed color and texture.
4. Extremely dry skin.
5. Bleeding gums.
6. Ongoing chronic sinusitis.
7. Splitting fingernails.
8. Huge swings in libido.
9. Irritable bladder (NOT a fun one)
10. Probably more I can't even think of
And the kicker...MY ACNE IS BACK WORSE THAN EVER!!! As soon as I hit 29 years old my acne, which had never really gone away anyway, came back worse then ever. I've tried everything on this site and everything else I can find anywhere from several dermatolosists, naturopaths, nutritionists, and allergists. I would NEVER recommend Accutane to anyone!
Now, about the long term problems. I work in health care and strongly strongly believe that detoxes are bad for you. All the gastrointestinal specialists I work with say that there is no such thing as build-up in your colon. Detoxes are extremely hard on your body, and Accutane already compromised your digestive system so why would you want to stress it out more?
Supplements are difficult to digest if you have IBS or any digestive issues, so I recommend trying to get your vitamins, minerals, etc in natural form as often as possible. I take calcium/magensium because I'm now lactose intolerant (thanks Accutane) and iron because I'm genetically low. I cut way back on gluten, dairy and sugars for my digestion, not for my acne, and it has helped a lot.
The best advice I can give on dealing with your skin side effects is to seek out a MEDICAL ESTHETICIAN. They are trained to work with people who have had plastic surgery, skin grafts, surgery, etc. They use medical grade stuff and are trained in how the internal body works with the skin. Sometimes they work in dermatologists offices, sometimes in spas (ya, I know, I was skeptical too). Check out their credentials and go see one. Mine has made a huge difference in reducing the acne that came storming back and in starting to heal and rehydrate my skin. For the first time in 15 years I have hope that one day (hopefully soon), I will have mostly healthy and mostly acne free skin.
As to the rest of the ways Accutane has ruined my body and life, I keep hoping for that too. Stress does play a huge role in our overall health, so one of the best things I have done was learn how to be ok with feeling crappy all the time and having a face that looked like half-cooked ground beef. I actually walked around my regular life without make-up for a month...that was a sickening experience at first, but eventually I got used to it and realised that people don't run away screaming, and the jerks who actual do comment on your acne, are just jerks regardless.
Best of luck...and down with Accutane.
Hey,
I'm curious to know:
Did you do anything to deal with your depression or did it just subside?
Several points to make:
1. Reversal of strategy, from logic to intuition
2. Primary emphasis on bacterial intake
3. Secondary emphasis on intestinal support
4. Tertiary emphasis on liver support
5. Eating generally within paleo / IBS guidelines, or at least remaining aware of them in the breach. Following my regimine with reasonable strictness, but not extreme care.
1. Previously I was doing a very rigorous, experimental, cautious approach. I'd been trained to retreat when confronted with pain because I'd learned that the pain/symptoms only increased without limit.
The catalyzing decision was to change approaches, to intuition, via the meditational technique of "manifestation." It is described elsewhere, so I won't discuss it here. Suffice it to say that all my behavior changes resulted from this new strategy.
I attempted to manifest a cure, and simply behaved as intuition dictated.
2. My main source of bacteria was liquid yoghurt. This was the first regimine change I implemented. I started with Yakult and then went to a generic version with lower sugar. I consume huge amounts per day, 1-2 cartons. It's the bulk of my caloric intake.
Initially the yoghurt experiment caused pain and fatigue, probably due to the insane amounts of sugar in Yakult. However it was nowhere near as severe as expected. And there were also positive indicators. So I continued.
To amplify the effect, per Dr. Snow, I bought cow colostrum powder and began eating it together with yoghurt. The combination is addictive, which is why I eat so much of it.
4 & 3: As the expected disaster failed to materialize, I started throwing everything and the kitchen sink at the problem. Stuff I had lying around that I'd tried and then rejected, stuff I'd bought but never tried, and a couple of new purchases.
I had lecithin and magnesium on hand but decided not to use them, the former because it was soy based and that latter because I saw no need.
Here's a list of what all I started taking:
guts:
Lactobin (Chinese brand lactose intolerance pill)
Glutagenics by Metagenics
Colostrum Powder (Chinese brand for pregnant ladies)
Primal Defense probiotics by Garden of Life
liver:
Liver Detoxifier and Regenerator, NOW brand
Liv.52 by Himalaya
Liver Longer (TUDCA)
Tyler Detoxification Factors Phase I and Phase II
sleep:
Liquid Calcium vitamin D, Chinese brand - take first thing in the morning with a meal, to set circadian by mimicking sunlight.
5. Diet - As soon as it was clear the yoghurt wouldn't kill me, I started expanding the diet. I'm mostly steering clear of veggies (insoluble fiber) and fruit (fructose), but eating lots of tubers - sweet potatoes and white. Also tried eggs, cheese, restaurant food, my girlfriend's cooking, garlic, soy sauce, nuts, raisins, fattier meat, sunflower seed oil for cooking, splash of wine, I dunno what else.
Basically I'm just exercising reasonable caution but cheating a lot. For example, eating half a block of chedder cheese by itself didn't make me sick exactly, but did give me the gift of room-clearing farts. I reckon my gut still has to adjust to new food classes, like any normal person's would. E.g., travel to India and you'd have to get used to curry and grease.
Regimine - Still getting sunlight through the windows. Taking the vit D powerfully regularizes circadian. Works much better than melatonin, which I do not recommend - it doesn't seem to provide restful sleep. Still wearing blindfold and earplugs. No longer need to sleep alone.
In general, I don't need to be very strict anymore about either diet or regimine. But for best results, I should at least try. Like, no eating at McDonald's; no staying out late drinking, etc.
OH I almost forgot, weird shit is happening. The tobacco stains on my teeth "fell off", only very faint remnants left. Leaving pearly whites beneath. Pretty sure my body is changing in fundamental ways. I need to stop doing dumb stuff like eating a half block of cheese, though. Kinda exciting, hard to stay moderate.
Also I'm not sure if it's healthy or reasonable to be drinking QUITE this much yoghurt. (He said, having just finished a 2kg carton.) But I find it difficult to stop.
Anyway my dumps are solid for the first time in recent memory. Aaaaand that concludes the TMI.
Thanks for posting.
I bet it's good to eat more than rice for every meal
I take Liv. 52 and the NOW liver detoxifier/regenerator and those alone have done nothing.
Because of the common link to digestive issues, I've always thought there needed to be something done about that.
After Christmas last year, I spent £100 on VSL #3 Probiotics (900 billion live bacteria per day) and saw no results.
You may recall mentioning Glutagenics. A girl on a forum had written about Accutane and had allergies/sensitivities to everything but cherries (random).
She said VSL#3, Glutagenics and a good diet helped her recover, though she was still buying these each month and that's obviously not cheap.
Can you please remind me/us what you're problems were, and why you believe yourself to be healed?
This seems a bit out of the blue.
I know you had brain-fog, depression, digestive problems ... I can't remember what else(?)
When did you start this, and would you say all of the supplements are important?
I picked up some Yakult's today from Tesco.
7 tiny bottles for £2 (and they were on offer).
I know you don't live in the UK, but do you buy these in bulk or take a lot of little bottles of the stuff?
They taste good anyway.
I could easily have 10 a day, though money may not permit that.
I take colostrum, in capsule form, by NOW.
In fact, most of my supplements are made by NOW.
Seeing how I've never seen so much as a whisper of improvement, I don't really trust the company for quality.
I'm sure most of the supplements you list are on iHerb.
How much do you estimate all this costs?
And do you think you're cured or temporarily experiencing relief?
Are you really saying you're having 2 KG of yoghurt a day?
Did you end up paying Dr. Snow for advice?
Cheers
Indy
I wouldn't disregard all NOW products but I do think you should be picky about them. I use L lysine from NOW for cold sores and it works well.
But NOW isn't a colostrum company it's just a vitamin company. Colostrum has to be processed delicately or all the benefits of it will be destroyed.
Also the best colostrum is colostrum that's been taken at 6 hrs after calf birth. Anything after 48 hrs is just milk and a waste of money.
I am taking colostrum capsules but I think I will start taking some in powder form for my mouth. I need more mucus/saliva
I ate a completely disgusting restaurant meal sunday afternoon, just to test my limits. Way too much fat, spices, mystery sauces, grease, and ketchup that had wheat in it, which I'm allergic to. The restaurant itself was gross; will never be going back there. A bug crawled out from under my plate.
Monday I had fatigue to the point where I didn't feel like working but could've if I had to. Tuesday morning my energy was back and circadian forward shifting was at most an hour or two.
Normally I regain energy in 3 hour increments per day, this was over 12 hours in one day. Normally I'm sick for at least 2-3 days after an infraction, and one as bad as that should mess me up for a week. Normally circadian forward shifting is at least 6 hours with a major infraction.
So it's a 4-8x improvement, at a minimum.
Also my acne is disappearing. I had very little on my face but still had body acne. Now the blackheads on my face are receding and the body acne is fading quickly, along with my desire to excoriate it. Also I can tell my immune system is much better from the speed of pimple resolution.
The annoying thing is I've completely forgotten how to cook.
Joseph:
I am from India and here yoghurt and fremented food is taken in large amount . I also take homemade yoghurt and other fermented food daily in large but not seen much difference. I have already taken large amount probiotics like vsl#3(for 4months ) and many more but they didn't helped much. Homemade yoghurt made from cows milk have large amount of healthy bacteria but they shouldn't be taken in large amount.
For stress I have found one medicine which is very effective with no side effects made of Indian herbs with no side effects, I have read lot of reviews about it
and is 100% safe,made of herbs. It has also help in relieving sexual side effects, basically it is anti aging supplement and may reverse the side effects of isotretnion.
http://www.iherb.com...-Caps/3748?at=0
Research papers
Cool, thanks, Kara.
I would say try it with colostrum before ruling anything out. What are your symptoms?
I am suffering from ulcerative colitis from last one and half year ( I get blood in my stools),dry scalp,and big pus filled pimples on my face , little depression some times,lower back ache (almost gone after taking bosswelia serrate indian herb for joint pain),still trying to cure my problems naturally.
Joseph:
I am from India and here yoghurt and fremented food is taken in large amount . I also take homemade yoghurt and other fermented food daily in large but not seen much difference. I have already taken large amount probiotics like vsl#3(for 4months ) and many more but they didn't helped much. Homemade yoghurt made from cows milk have large amount of healthy bacteria but they shouldn't be taken in large amount.
For stress I have found one medicine which is very effective with no side effects made of Indian herbs with no side effects, I have read lot of reviews about it
and is 100% safe,made of herbs. It has also help in relieving sexual side effects, basically it is anti aging supplement and can reverse the side effects of isotretnion.
http://www.iherb.com...-Caps/3748?at=0
Research papers
http://www.himalayah...eriforte047.pdf
You say it can reverse the effects of Accutane - What makes you say that?
Have you taken this yourself?
I looked at the research report and it didn't mention isotretinoin.
I want to try the supplement, but I was trying to cut back (completely) and my finances aren't too pretty these days
Ah.
Someone in the reviews mentioned that it cured their (severe) adrenal fatigue.
I've already got several adaptogens to use up, so will hold off on this for now.
I think I'd rather try probiotics, glutagenics and colostrum if anything at the moment.
The amount of times I've read glowing reviews on iHerb and then ordered stuff... They never work, even slightly, for me.
For those with social anxiety that may have been brought on by Accutane, I highly recommend the book 'A life less anxious'.
'Feel the fear and do it anyway' is also one of the best self-help books I've read, and I've read a lot of them.
Indy
Ah.
Someone in the reviews mentioned that it cured their (severe) adrenal fatigue.
I've already got several adaptogens to use up, so will hold off on this for now.
I think I'd rather try probiotics, glutagenics and colostrum if anything at the moment.
The amount of times I've read glowing reviews on iHerb and then ordered stuff... They never work, even slightly, for me.
For those with social anxiety that may have been brought on by Accutane, I highly recommend the book 'A life less anxious'.
'Feel the fear and do it anyway' is also one of the best self-help books I've read, and I've read a lot of them.
Indytre
Try garden of life primal defense only and see how your body responds and then add other things slowly. I am thinking to try it(Garden..) but not tried it due to the reasons mentioned before. I tell how i fell after taking himalya medicines.
Cool man.
Yeah, I will try those, though apparantly colostrum goes down well with the probiotics.
There is far too much going to determine the root issue, but things like Leaky-gut syndrome could be an issue, and therefore taking something like Glutagenics may be important.
For now, I'll do the free things for my health such as exercise, relaxation and enjoying things (even something as simple as xbox).
I don't want to keep letting this have all my attention.
Missing out on a lot.
Has anyone tried L-Glutamine to heal leaky gut? I have tried it, even several different brands, but it always makes me break out badly I am just wondering what other peoples reactions are.
just saw that glutamine is obviously in Glutagenics.
Anyone who tries liver longer should also try Ursodiol.
The problem is that both products don't seem to be available in Europe and I doubt you will be allowed to import them to most countries within in EU. What are alternative non-OTC product with the same ingredients, anybody know?
Found liver longer:
http://www.powerbody.co.uk/product-thermolife_liver_longer_60_tablets,1924.html
Ursodiol is the same as TUDCA, which I am also taking.
---
EDIT: Couple of notes. It seems it's too soon to start eating large amounts of fat or insoluble fiber, ie onions. Too much gas results. Also I started overeating after switching foods. Adding back in high methionine foods like eggs, fish, scallops solves the problem. Will also be trying out liver.
A major part of the overeating problem was because drinking yoghurt was replacing drinking water, leading to minor dehydration and major overeating. Solution - always have a carafe of water on hand when drinking yoghurt.
In nature, overeating is not so much a problem as a solution to the absence of refrigeration. Hence the need to manage it amidst modern plenty.
EDIT: Still cured, and fixed the overeating problem. Avoiding heavy fat and insoluble fiber for now. Small amounts are fine.
Ok, so here's gonna be my routine as I have been refining over the past few weeks. I call it the supplemental mind body sleep approach.
Min gallon to gallon.5 of water a day.
Sweating a lot via daily movement and my long pre bed time showers (i've added epsom salt foot soaks to my shower ruitine) By the way how many people total ever did try those epsom salt liver cleanses? I'm just curious. Also, steam and sauna at the gym, bike riding outside (I live in Arizona) or dancing crazily with my friends (i'm serious). But sweat and move and have fun is the key. Also, I'm starting to believe in hot cold hot cold therapy where you mildly shock your system by switching environments warm to cool. (timothy ferriss)
Still mostly gluten and refined carbs/sugar free free (sometimes i sin when i get the munchzees). But this is really easier than it sounds. There's more things without gluten than you think you've just got to know how to spice something to make up for the lack of bread and such. Example day: I eat mixed nuts in the morning and nibble on handfuls till my early lunch. usually just eat a big spinach/herb/lettuce salad with chicken. That holds me over until dinner usually where I'd eat something like lentils or black beans and maybe light fry some frozen okra (mucilaginous veggie) and brocolli. I turmeric and himalayan sea salt the shit out of everything I make.
Ok, onto supplements:
Morning i take 100 5htp and picamilon 100 just about everyday to keep my mind right. Dermatrophin.
Beta carotene, vitamin e mid day. I spread 300 hyaluronic acids 1morn, afternoon, 1night.
before bed I take magnesium, coconut oil, and zinc.
Oh also throughout the day I'll be taking MSM Vit D and oregano oil high quantities. I think there's something to the anti bacterial anti fungal approach since I feel better off antibiotics and someone else cured some ibs symptoms w MSM.
I've only become consistent with about 3/4ths of this stuff for a little under a month and my skin is doing fairly decent, it has it's semi soft days/body parts and it's dry days. (never as flaky as my pre dermatrophin days). My bowels are okay most of the time could use a little more frequency. My energy levels are actually quite good for the most part. Sometimes I have my bad mornings or afternoons. I get pretty good sleep and nap when I stay out late dancing sometimes.
So ya I guess I just wanted to mention that stuff.
ps did I mention limited to no dairy? I limit myself right now but I hope to get off it for awhile.
and someone said glutamine, I did feel like that was the only thing that helped me when I thought my gut was tearing itself apart due to the loud noises it was constantly making.
Your routine sounds a lot like mine at the moment - Paleoish gluten/dairy free diet. Tumeric, salt, I also have a tblsp of ACV after meals. I get carbs mainly from fruit.
I'm drinking a cup of bone broth every morning which seems to be helping. I also got some leafs of pork gelatin that I stir into my tea.The occasional addition of scallops also seems to be helping my skin.
I have a holiday coming up, so I'm not doing any drastic before then. When I return however I'm going to really try and deal with the fungal issues I have. Every time previously I have tried the 'die off' has been too hard to handle at that moment. I'm going to get some Candex which is pricey. but is supposed to have seriously good results with minimal die off. That plus biotin and coconut oil I think should handle the fungal infection. If it goes well, I'll add an S.Boulardii probiotic.
My stomach has been really sensitive since I did an experiment with eggs that didn't go well. Stuff that had given me hardly any problems before (almonds) now seem to be causing issues. Probably need to give it some time to heal.
Cool man.
Yeah, I will try those, though apparantly colostrum goes down well with the probiotics.
There is far too much going to determine the root issue, but things like Leaky-gut syndrome could be an issue, and therefore taking something like Glutagenics may be important.
For now, I'll do the free things for my health such as exercise, relaxation and enjoying things (even something as simple as xbox).
I don't want to keep letting this have all my attention.
Missing out on a lot.
Hi Indigo
I meant to tell you, I found fish oil worked great for my depression!! But you need a good, high dose quality fish oil
Karan:
I have long been searching for a fermented food that I could eat in bulk. The 2kg of yoghurt I ate today is representative of my normal daily intake.
Eating fermented foods containing live bacteria is extremely good for you. My improvement trend began when I was still drinking Yakult only, which I do not recommend due to the sugar content.
I believe massive live culture (non pill) bacterial intake is the primary factor in my recovery.
More specifically, given the similarities between my facial features and Amud Neanderthals', I intuitively shifted my diet towards a cave herder template. Lacking the gene necessary to digest raw milk, Neanderthals fermented their milk into yoghurt and cheese in the cool backs of their caves. I imagine the Mongolians may do something similar today. Despite being lactose intolerant, I am able to tolerate an incredibly high ratio of yoghurt in my diet.
I had assumed storebought yoghurt would not work due to already demonstrated sensitivities to lactose, sugar, artificial and processed foods, fat, etc. I decided to give it a trial after it worked to reduce a family member's (milder) IBS symptoms.
Previous failed fermented food attempts include self-fermented kombucha, apple cider vinegar, and kimchi. Either I am simply better adapted to yoghurt, or I failed to push through the pain period. I suspect a combination of both.
In sum, I do not credit the pills. Rather, the yoghurt allowed me to digest the pills, which then provided further assistance.
I expect that a pill and powder only regimine would not work for me without following Dr. Snow's protocol, which involves extremely judicious selection of products and requires refrigerated probiotics.
Hi Joseph!
I would love it if you could elaborate on this statement please?
*The catalyzing decision was to change approaches, to intuition, via the meditational technique of "manifestation." It is described elsewhere, so I won't discuss it here. Suffice it to say that all my behavior changes resulted from this new strategy.
I attempted to manifest a cure, and simply behaved as intuition dictated.
Where can I find this manifestation meditation technique you mention? I practise meditation, but it's TM meditation.
Please, please, more info on this!! 
And thank you so much for caring enough to share your success!!
Maria
Steve Pavlina talks a lot about manifestation. His method isn't exactly the same as mine, but it's close enough.
Good luck!
To those interested, yes I'm still cured, and besides not eating certain things, can do pretty much whatever I want. No need to closely control sleep or eating times or whatever.
Heres a quick little tip for those with sebborheic dermatitis of the skin due to accutane. This could be on the face or scalp. Baking soda.........yeah thats right......buy some baking soda and mix it with equal parts water till it's like a paste.....apply it to the areas affected (i wear it like a face mask lol) and when it starts to sting rinse it off. It dissolves instantly in water.....i use a sink to wash my face. I usually leave it on for 5-10 minutes, before washing it off. Anyway the scales come off very easy this way. Also use Cetaphil gentle skin cleanser at night....apply it liberally, and after about 10 minutes wash it off..... slowly pat your skin whilst your face is submerged in the water to remove the cetaphil gently. You'll find your scales or flaky skin coming off effortlessly.
Hope this helps.....in all my years of creams and ointments baking soda paste followed by cetaphil cleanser at night is the best thing i've ever tried for removing my sebborheic dermatitis, without any scarring or damage to the skin...hope that helps anyone suffering with the same things i've got.
Would you mind
Your routine sounds a lot like mine at the moment - Paleoish gluten/dairy free diet. Tumeric, salt, I also have a tblsp of ACV after meals. I get carbs mainly from fruit.
I'm drinking a cup of bone broth every morning which seems to be helping. I also got some leafs of pork gelatin that I stir into my tea.The occasional addition of scallops also seems to be helping my skin.
I have a holiday coming up, so I'm not doing any drastic before then. When I return however I'm going to really try and deal with the fungal issues I have. Every time previously I have tried the 'die off' has been too hard to handle at that moment. I'm going to get some Candex which is pricey. but is supposed to have seriously good results with minimal die off. That plus biotin and coconut oil I think should handle the fungal infection. If it goes well, I'll add an S.Boulardii probiotic.
My stomach has been really sensitive since I did an experiment with eggs that didn't go well. Stuff that had given me hardly any problems before (almonds) now seem to be causing issues. Probably need to give it some time to heal.
Hi there
How do you maKE THE Bone broth pls????
Heres a quick little tip for those with sebborheic dermatitis of the skin due to accutane. This could be on the face or scalp. Baking soda.........yeah thats right......buy some baking soda and mix it with equal parts water till it's like a paste.....apply it to the areas affected (i wear it like a face mask lol) and when it starts to sting rinse it off. It dissolves instantly in water.....i use a sink to wash my face. I usually leave it on for 5-10 minutes, before washing it off. Anyway the scales come off very easy this way. Also use Cetaphil gentle skin cleanser at night....apply it liberally, and after about 10 minutes wash it off..... slowly pat your skin whilst your face is submerged in the water to remove the cetaphil gently. You'll find your scales or flaky skin coming off effortlessly.
Hope this helps.....in all my years of creams and ointments baking soda paste followed by cetaphil cleanser at night is the best thing i've ever tried for removing my sebborheic dermatitis, without any scarring or damage to the skin...hope that helps anyone suffering with the same things i've got.
Thanks so much!!
Do you have any idea why Accutane induces Seborrheic dermatitis???
Would you mind
Your routine sounds a lot like mine at the moment - Paleoish gluten/dairy free diet. Tumeric, salt, I also have a tblsp of ACV after meals. I get carbs mainly from fruit.
I'm drinking a cup of bone broth every morning which seems to be helping. I also got some leafs of pork gelatin that I stir into my tea.The occasional addition of scallops also seems to be helping my skin.
I have a holiday coming up, so I'm not doing any drastic before then. When I return however I'm going to really try and deal with the fungal issues I have. Every time previously I have tried the 'die off' has been too hard to handle at that moment. I'm going to get some Candex which is pricey. but is supposed to have seriously good results with minimal die off. That plus biotin and coconut oil I think should handle the fungal infection. If it goes well, I'll add an S.Boulardii probiotic.
My stomach has been really sensitive since I did an experiment with eggs that didn't go well. Stuff that had given me hardly any problems before (almonds) now seem to be causing issues. Probably need to give it some time to heal.
Hi there
How do you maKE THE Bone broth pls????
Heres a quick little tip for those with sebborheic dermatitis of the skin due to accutane. This could be on the face or scalp. Baking soda.........yeah thats right......buy some baking soda and mix it with equal parts water till it's like a paste.....apply it to the areas affected (i wear it like a face mask lol) and when it starts to sting rinse it off. It dissolves instantly in water.....i use a sink to wash my face. I usually leave it on for 5-10 minutes, before washing it off. Anyway the scales come off very easy this way. Also use Cetaphil gentle skin cleanser at night....apply it liberally, and after about 10 minutes wash it off..... slowly pat your skin whilst your face is submerged in the water to remove the cetaphil gently. You'll find your scales or flaky skin coming off effortlessly.
Hope this helps.....in all my years of creams and ointments baking soda paste followed by cetaphil cleanser at night is the best thing i've ever tried for removing my sebborheic dermatitis, without any scarring or damage to the skin...hope that helps anyone suffering with the same things i've got.
Thanks so much!!
Do you have any idea why Accutane induces Seborrheic dermatitis???
Get some bones from your butcher. They are usually cheap or free. Put some in a pot and cover with water. Add a TBLSP of ACV or other vinegar. Leave for 20-30mins. Turn heat on and bring to a boil. Once boiling turn heat right down and leave simmer for 8-10 hours. Add water occasionally to prevent burning. Leave the liquid reduce before straining the bones. Put in a sealed container in the fridge. Leave overnight and enjoy by heating portions up and adding salt/other things for a broth.
As for the reasons for Seb Derm, its either the Accutane causing you skin not to shed properly or it is from a yeast/fungal infection.
Would you mind
Your routine sounds a lot like mine at the moment - Paleoish gluten/dairy free diet. Tumeric, salt, I also have a tblsp of ACV after meals. I get carbs mainly from fruit.
I'm drinking a cup of bone broth every morning which seems to be helping. I also got some leafs of pork gelatin that I stir into my tea.The occasional addition of scallops also seems to be helping my skin.
I have a holiday coming up, so I'm not doing any drastic before then. When I return however I'm going to really try and deal with the fungal issues I have. Every time previously I have tried the 'die off' has been too hard to handle at that moment. I'm going to get some Candex which is pricey. but is supposed to have seriously good results with minimal die off. That plus biotin and coconut oil I think should handle the fungal infection. If it goes well, I'll add an S.Boulardii probiotic.
My stomach has been really sensitive since I did an experiment with eggs that didn't go well. Stuff that had given me hardly any problems before (almonds) now seem to be causing issues. Probably need to give it some time to heal.
Hi there
How do you maKE THE Bone broth pls????
Heres a quick little tip for those with sebborheic dermatitis of the skin due to accutane. This could be on the face or scalp. Baking soda.........yeah thats right......buy some baking soda and mix it with equal parts water till it's like a paste.....apply it to the areas affected (i wear it like a face mask lol) and when it starts to sting rinse it off. It dissolves instantly in water.....i use a sink to wash my face. I usually leave it on for 5-10 minutes, before washing it off. Anyway the scales come off very easy this way. Also use Cetaphil gentle skin cleanser at night....apply it liberally, and after about 10 minutes wash it off..... slowly pat your skin whilst your face is submerged in the water to remove the cetaphil gently. You'll find your scales or flaky skin coming off effortlessly.
Hope this helps.....in all my years of creams and ointments baking soda paste followed by cetaphil cleanser at night is the best thing i've ever tried for removing my sebborheic dermatitis, without any scarring or damage to the skin...hope that helps anyone suffering with the same things i've got.
Thanks so much!!
Do you have any idea why Accutane induces Seborrheic dermatitis???
I can only speculate from my own personal perspective. Accutane increases skin cell proliferation, in some people (in my case) accutane causes cholastasis which means the liver is basically blocked and unable to release bile. Without bile, accutane can not be removed from the body....as a result the body stores the accutane in the fat cells.....the places were it's stored are the areas were you have the increased skin cell shedding ie (seb derm).
Some people with accutane induced seb derm react very badly to oils being put on the the areas were they have the flaky / scaley skin. This is because accutane is fat soluble and reacts to the oil.
Some people get diagnosed with seb derm, some get diagnosed with psoriasis or sebborheic ezcema...it's basically the same thing if it's been caused by accutane...it just differs in severity based on certain things. Like for instance eating retinol rich foods makes it much worse, it depends on the dose of accutane a person was on and for how long.
Thanks very much Chico!!
Do you know how to unblock the Liver so the bile can be produced normally again?
I know that if I eat a fatty meal at night (and only at night this happens) I get nausea about an hour or so later. Such as eating an ice cream, which I did late last night.
P.S. Prior to accutane use, I suffered with , what I think is either Psoriasis of the scalp or SD of the scalp.
Have had it since I was 14 years old, and didnt take accutane till i was in my early twenties
but it's like the SD migrated down to my T zone on my face, from my scalp 
So I know for sure, the scalp dermatitis or psoriasis thingy is not from Accutane at all.