8 hours ago, ACCUiTy_drANE said:

I definitely agree that it is worth trying a few supplements and/or medications out before throwing in the towel. My "don't blow your brains out" stack is perhaps overkill, but I have been noticing more good days than bad as of late. This is how I manage my depression (brain fog/anhedonia):

1. 25 - 30 mg Tianeptine Sulfate - I am sure this medication has been mentioned before. It is one of the fastest acting antidepressants available. It is not prescribed in the U.S. because its patent has expired, therefore it is not profitable. Although I understand why someone may want to stick to herbs, I think it is worth looking into older drugs that are not pushed by the U.S. healthcare system. Sometimes those are the most effective, but don't make anybody rich.
2. 0.75 pounds of blueberries per day - The word "superfood" gets tossed around a lot, but even the most stingy scientific folks agree that blueberries are a superfood. It increases BDNF, helps memory, controls neuroinflammation, ect. You will feel the difference.
3. 20 mg of cannabidiol - I've beat this one to death.
4. 150 mg of Ashwagandha - It has anti-inflammatory effects and works as an anti-anxiety without the tolerance.
5. Intense cardio 5 days per week.
6. Intermittent caffeine use - Caffeine actually has a ton of health benefits, but if used regularly, it can inhibit neurogenesis in the hippocampus (bad). If used sporadically, I find it to be a great way to increase my motivation for an important task. It can also increase my sociability, which has positive implications beyond any one day or moment!
7. Kefir - I have no idea if it is doing anything for my moods, but it definitely helps my digestion. If it is re-balancing my gut flora, surely that has an effect on depression/cognitive issues.
8. Wait for a rebound - Every two weeks, I have a 2 day span where I feel almost normal. Lately it's been more often, or perhaps I'll feel well for MOST of a day. We'll see.

Disclaimer: Although all of these treatments are legal, seek advice from the appropriate authorities before obtaining.

My favorites are "Accutainted" and "TanedOut." They were inspirational to mine. I almost went with AccuDrained, but felt like that would have been too imitative of me.

Thx for info here - I can see you must of put some time and effort into researching these supplements as they aren't your average ones. I will check out blueberry as a supplement for sure!!

Is there anything you've found to help retain some moisture in the body or are your sebaceous glands shot like every body else's??

Its good to see other peoples procedure from time to time in dealing with issues.

7 hours ago, TrueJustice said:

Thx for info here - I can see you must of put some time and effort into researching these supplements as they aren't your average ones. I will check out blueberry as a supplement for sure!!

Is there anything you've found to help retain some moisture in the body or are your sebaceous glands shot like every body else's??

Its good to see other peoples procedure from time to time in dealing with issues.

Try Baxyl.

On August 2, 2016 at 4:24 PM, snarkygirl said:

wow someone needs to stfu. If you had a good experience with accutane, grey. Now leave us alone, were here because we didn't. I still think you can get better but it may take a while. I think the right med would work wonders for you. Or something like st johns wort. If ypu are mistrustful of doctors maybe see a naturopath.

BTW I just wanna add, I really like everyone's sardonic usernames on here. You guys are a twisted bunch. I like that.

im pretty sure you're correct. Thats like saying, hey static electricity is the same as the atom bomb.

I also want to add that I was already incredibly (suicidally) depressed for a while before beginning accutane treatment.

11 hours ago, TrueJustice said:

Thx for info here - I can see you must of put some time and effort into researching these supplements as they aren't your average ones. I will check out blueberry as a supplement for sure!!

Is there anything you've found to help retain some moisture in the body or are your sebaceous glands shot like every body else's??

Its good to see other peoples procedure from time to time in dealing with issues.

You're welcome.

Yeah, I'm not sure if my skin is "dry." Here are my issues: It hurts to have my elbows pressed against any type of surface because the skin feels weak. It hurts the palms of my hands to lift weights because of how thin the skin is, whereas that wasn't an issue before. Whenever I get a scratch on my skin, it is sure to leave a permanent mark. If my shoes rub against my ankles while I walk, it leaves my skin with permanent red marks. Because of this, I cannot wear ice skates or roller blades. I also can no longer stretch my back on my inversion table because my skin can no longer tolerate having all of the pressure concentrated on my ankles while I hang upside down. The only place I am visibly dry is eyelids and (perhaps) elbows. Winter is obviously a different story.

I do not have any solutions for this. Down the line, I plan to try out some highly restrictive diets to really take a stab at my body-wide problems. I think many of us could benefit starting with a Lectin Avoidance Diet. The Wahls Protocol also sounds promising, as it is backed by research. It has helped people with issues as dire as MS, so I'm sure it could address some of the issues we have. Of course, I still want to give Epitalon a go as well. Overall, there is so much I haven't tried yet. I am optimistic about some of these treatments! (Today anyway, haha.)
 

18 hours ago, macleod said:

I tried tianeptine for months. It helped with anxiety, and physical exercises. Definitely puts a "pep in your step", you'll also notice vivid dreaming, however downsides are a bit of racing thoughts, if you take too much, and it also spikes your insulin* levels, as in, if you are susceptible to high sugar levels, for example  diabetics, not necessarily good for you. i think it lowers it in the end, but there is a definitely a temporary spike. here's the data.

  http://jrnlappliedresearch.com/articles/Vol9Iss3/Lechin.pdf

Thank you for the input. I've tried it off and on, but only recently have I started taking it consistently. Besides, that's how antidepressants are intended to be dosed. I take a slower-acting version and I never go above 25 - 30 mg at a time (it lasts almost "all day" for me), so perhaps that negates the insulin spikes.

if some of us did happen to have some sort of candida infection in the gut and or respiratory tract, the number one defense is healthy bacteria or gut flora. Not just wormwood or black walnut or what ever other candida cleanse. A healthy gut flora is what keeps what can become a pathogenic fungus like candida in check in the first place. Accutane might have completely disrupted this. One of the first signs of this disruption for me might have been the facial flushing or sinus inflammation.

Mayo Clinic Study Implicates Fungus As Cause Of Chronic Sinusitis

Date:

September 10, 1999

Source:

Mayo Clinic

Summary:

Mayo Clinic researchers say they have found the cause of most chronic sinus infections -- an immune system response to fungus. They say this discovery opens the door to the first effective treatment for this problem, the most common chronic disease in the United States.

here is evidence of effect of a particular probiotic strain against Candida. There is also another study I looked at that decreased Candida
overgrowth in the gut 3 fold over the span of 48 days with lacto plantarum.

Probiotic bacteria are suggested to play a role in the maintenance of oral health. Such health promoting bacteria are added to different commercial probiotic products. The aim of the study was to investigate the ability of a selection of lactobacilli strains, used in commercially available probiotic products, to inhibit growth of oral mutans streptococci andC. albicans in vitro.

Methods

Eight probiotic lactobacilli strains were tested for growth inhibition on three reference strains and two clinical isolates of mutans streptococci as well as two reference strains and three clinical isolates ofCandida albicanswith an agar overlay method.

Results

At concentrations ranging from 10⁹to 10⁵CFU/ml, all lactobacilli strains inhibited the growth of the mutans streptococci completely with the exception ofL. acidophilusLa5 that executed only a slight inhibition of some strains at concentrations corresponding to 10⁷and 10⁵CFU/ml. At the lowest cell concentration (10³CFU/ml), onlyL. plantarum299v andL. plantarum931 displayed a total growth inhibition while a slight inhibition was seen for all five mutans streptococci strains byL. rhamnosusLB21,L. paracaseiF19,L. reuteriPTA 5289 andL. reuteriATCC 55730. All the tested lactobacilli strains reduced candida growth but the effect was generally weaker than for mutans streptococci. The twoL. plantarumstrains andL. reuteriATCC 55730 displayed the strongest inhibition onCandida albicans. No significant differences were observed between the reference strains and the clinical isolates.

Conclusion

The selected probiotic strains showed a significant but somewhat varying ability to inhibit growth of oral mutans streptococci andCandida albicans in vitro.

http://healthimpactnews.com/2012/popular-acne-drug-is-one-of-the-most-dangerous-drugs-ever-made/

Recap for people thinking about taking this toxic drug , think twice.

Ordered Items
Hepatic Function Panel (7); Ceruloplasmin; Copper, Serum; Zinc, Plasma or Serum; Venipuncture
TESTS RESULT FLAG UNITS REFERENCE INTERVAL LAB
Hepatic Function Panel (7)
Protein, Total, Serum 7.5 g/dL 6.0 - 8.5 01
Albumin, Serum 4.6 g/dL 3.5 - 5.5 01
Bilirubin, Total 0.5 mg/dL 0.0 - 1.2 01
Bilirubin, Direct 0.12 mg/dL 0.00 - 0.40 01
Alkaline Phosphatase, S 48 IU/L 39 - 117 01
AST (SGOT) 14 IU/L 0 - 40 01
ALT (SGPT) 11 IU/L 0 - 44 01
Ceruloplasmin 24.4 mg/dL 16.0 - 31.0 01
Copper, Serum 95 ug/dL 72 - 166 02
Detection Limit = 5
Zinc, Plasma or Serum 100 ug/dL 56 - 134 02
Detection Limit = 5

here are my most recent liver, copper and zinc blood test results. I havent been supplementing with zinc at all and my zinc level appears to be very healthy, so i wont concern myself with zinc supplements ever.
my free copper is still higher then i want it to be at 21.8 (this number did not fluctuate much at all since my last test a month or two ago.)
a healthy level is 15% free copper or less, or 10-15 ug/dl.
Although as long as this is staying under 25 and my ceruloplasmin is in range, Im not going to look at this as a exclusive copper issue.
more to come.

On 8/4/2016 at 2:54 AM, Gladiatoro said:

On 8/3/2016 at 7:05 PM, TrueJustice said:

Thx for info here - I can see you must of put some time and effort into researching these supplements as they aren't your average ones. I will check out blueberry as a supplement for sure!!

Is there anything you've found to help retain some moisture in the body or are your sebaceous glands shot like every body else's??

Its good to see other peoples procedure from time to time in dealing with issues.

Try Baxyl.

Thx - I've tried Baxyl numerous times to no effect, unfortunately we haven't made much progress with returning moisture back to the body, properly cause our sebaceous glands are screwed I would say.

I might try another bottle as it has been a while .

thx

On 8/3/2016 at 11:58 PM, Gladiatoro said:

[Edited link out]

Very interesting - poor guy had part of his bowel removed, fucked his whole career up.

My question is - Why can't I sue for lost earnings in my career?? It turned my world upside down. at 41 I thought I'd of started a family well and truly by now but how can I do that with all the crap we still face on daily basis?? All the money spent on tests and supplements adds up to quite a lot over 18 years or so, not to mention the mental anguish in never finding a complete cure.....

In my heart of hearts I know we are owed big time by Roche - what we have been subjected to is CRIMINAL.

Recap for people thinking on going on this drug btw unless you look like a beast DON'T even think about it . Anywayswho really has severe cystic nodularacne .02 percent of the population that's about it. Big bad pHARMa.

https://www.amazon.com/Goose-That-Laid-Golden-Egg/product-reviews/0990865037/ref=cm_cr_getr_d_paging_btm_3?ie=UTF8&showViewpoints=0&sortBy=recent&pageNumber=3#R2MVEFEG72L7XW

I've discovered the weirdest thing. When I drink cold water, it really irritates my throat. When I drink warm to hot water, I actually start to feel hydrated for once. Sounds like it might be something to do with lymph nodes

2 hours ago, QuietSoldier said:

I've discovered the weirdest thing. When I drink cold water, it really irritates my throat. When I drink warm to hot water, I actually start to feel hydrated for once. Sounds like it might be something to do with lymph nodes

Supposedly alkaline water or water with a higher pH past neutral is more hydrating. Fiji water is one brand that comes to mind. It's expensive though. There are ways to make or filter your own water to make it alkaline, but I don't believe it's the same as coming from a natural source.

Just a little fun fact for you guys that no one probably wants to know, but taking molybdenum turned my shits green. I've never had green shits in my life before. Now is this some sort of detox? I have no clue, but I'm intrigued. There is no known deficiency of molybdenum in the history of mankind basically. But maybe if it was being spent, or constantly used up. Some animal deficiencies show loss of feathers, increased bone turn over, reproductive difficulty, changes in joint cartilage

Just thought I'd let everyone know that I just did a 24 hour diet and am feeling better than I've felt in a long time. Just wondering but, in y'all's opinions, how much does dieting help long-term? Honestly, I could go for a diet every other day if they feel this great!

17 minutes ago, cnb30 said:

Just thought I'd let everyone know that I just did a 24 hour diet and am feeling better than I've felt in a long time. Just wondering but, in y'all's opinions, how much does dieting help long-term? Honestly, I could go for a diet every other day if they feel this great!

You can look into this if you like. There are similar programs. The idea is you have a smoothie to replace two of your meals to give your gut a break. He recommends digestive enzymes with each meal, a daily probiotic, berberine and glutamine to repair the gut. He has a video you can look up on Dr Oz. He was a cardiologist, now this is what he does. He says you can tell a persons gut health by the clearness in their eyes and the elasticity in their skin. Which I think is true. This is his Web site. Dont buy any of his shit though it's way overpriced. You can sign up for email though and he will give you the summary of the program http://www.cleanprogram.com/clean-gut-the-book.html

29 minutes ago, cnb30 said:

Just thought I'd let everyone know that I just did a 24 hour diet and am feeling better than I've felt in a long time. Just wondering but, in y'all's opinions, how much does dieting help long-term? Honestly, I could go for a diet every other day if they feel this great!

That's great to hear! What did you change up?

Isotretinoin the worlds MOST dangerous drug.

13 hours ago, Gladiatoro said:

At the 2 min 40 mark he states that Accutane can still be in the body YEARS after we take it. Why then do Doctors say it's out of the body after 10 days????

If we are to believe the info in this video, where did it come from, who supplied this info????

Its clear that the wider medical community has not been given the correct information prior to prescribing accutane ( we know more now but that's not the point ) - especially evident with my case as I was given it in 1998. Clearly more grounds for us to sue Roche as not even the common GP 10 or more years ago knew what they were giving out!!!!

Someone put it really well recently when they said "I signed up to Accutane to clear up my acne, not for a lifetime of crippling side effects"

Isotretinoin is stored in the skin fat cells I found this out by rubbing witch hazel on my chest once a day for a few weeks then I started getting dizzy again and I had heart papulationsand chest pain for a few days same side effects I had when I took the drug but this is 20 plus years later I was shocked to say the least. That's when I got pissed off and started doing research on what this drug did to me.

Thats why derms say whatever you try on it works better ( acne ) I say yeah if you want to have a @$(@ heart attack go ahead and rub your skin.

18 hours ago, guitarman01 said:

21 hours ago, QuietSoldier said:

I've discovered the weirdest thing. When I drink cold water, it really irritates my throat. When I drink warm to hot water, I actually start to feel hydrated for once. Sounds like it might be something to do with lymph nodes

Supposedly alkaline water or water with a higher pH past neutral is more hydrating. Fiji water is one brand that comes to mind. It's expensive though. There are ways to make or filter your own water to make it alkaline, but I don't believe it's the same as coming from a natural source.

it's not a matter of the source though. I've tried water from tap, filter, and bottle. If it's cold, it hurts my throat

Maunawaiwater.com

Anyone taken calcium d-glucarate? Mine just came in the mail.

Molybdenum is one of the nutrients required for the manufacture of several of the Phase 1 detoxification enzymes such as aldehyde dehydrogenase and aldehyde oxidase. These two enzymes neutralize acetaldehyde, a metabolic byproduct of yeast, fungi, and alcohol. Candida patients are often overloaded with this neurotoxin, which accumulates in the blood liver, organs, tissues and intestines, putting their immune system under large amounts of stress. Molybdenum is also involved in the manufacture of certain Phase 1 enzymes that oxidize the sulfites in preservatives, and neutralize the toxins involved in protein metabolism. Molydenum is also involved in flushing the excess copper from the system as well as preventing dental cavities when adequate amounts are stored in the tooth enamel. When the liver has enough molybdenum, detoxification becomes more complete and the immune system can do a better job at fighting off other infections.

6 hours ago, QuietSoldier said:

it's not a matter of the source though. I've tried water from tap, filter, and bottle. If it's cold, it hurts my throat 

I was told that drinking cold water can affect ones Chi, it's always best to drink unchilled. Even when I get a takeaway bottle of water I ask for one that hasn't been in the fridge