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(@ottovisual)

Posted : 04/24/2014 11:34 am

Crank since you have contact with him, I wonder if 100% cured individuals get their acne back. Dont get me wrong I would not mind that but isn't that the result of a 100% cure or maybe we outgrow then.

This also means you would eat bad foods again, inducing the acne. Or the RSO cures our acne also.

I'm starting real RSO in 5 weeks. Like I mentioned the before the lower CBD oil does make me feel better but it's too low to give it the final shot.

This one is averaging around 20-24% THC and 12-14% CBD. Prepared the Rick Simpson style..

Be Well everybody !

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Posted : 04/24/2014 11:47 am

Crank since you have contact with him, I wonder if 100% cured individuals get their acne back. Dont get me wrong I would not mind that but isn't that the result of a 100% cure or maybe we outgrow then.

This also means you would eat bad foods again, inducing the acne. Or the RSO cures our acne also.

I'm starting real RSO in 5 weeks. Like I mentioned the before the lower CBD oil does make me feel better but it's too low to give it the final shot.

This one is averaging around 20-24% THC and 12-14% CBD. Prepared the Rick Simpson style..

Be Well everybody !

 

I'll shoot them a message about that, it's a good question!

 

Yes Otto! That's great news, I hope for all our sakes you see great results!

 

EDIT: 1 thing of note is apparently cannabis shows some good anti-acne properties. I've got to say my skin is looking better since I started vaping. But then again I'm also using the whole of Dan's kit from this website. So perhaps cannabis in itself can cause acne remission. That being said I don't think this individual is still using RSO so shall see what response I get.

 

EDIT part II: Just spotted from re-reading the recovery story;

 

"I have used the oil on and off since then as maintenance doses and I still feel great to this day."

 

So therefore they are still using RSO on a regular basis. I presume as he follows Rick Simpsons methods, he will be taking 1 dose per month now. As that is what Rick promotes.

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Posted : 04/24/2014 12:12 pm

 

Crank since you have contact with him, I wonder if 100% cured individuals get their acne back. Dont get me wrong I would not mind that but isn't that the result of a 100% cure or maybe we outgrow then.

This also means you would eat bad foods again, inducing the acne. Or the RSO cures our acne also.

I'm starting real RSO in 5 weeks. Like I mentioned the before the lower CBD oil does make me feel better but it's too low to give it the final shot.

This one is averaging around 20-24% THC and 12-14% CBD. Prepared the Rick Simpson style..

Be Well everybody !

 

I'll shoot them a message about that, it's a good question!

 

Yes Otto! That's great news, I hope for all our sakes you see great results!

 

EDIT: 1 thing of note is apparently cannabis shows some good anti-acne properties. I've got to say my skin is looking better since I started vaping. But then again I'm also using the whole of Dan's kit from this website. So perhaps cannabis in itself can cause acne remission. That being said I don't think this individual is still using RSO so shall see what response I get.

 

EDIT part II: Just spotted from re-reading the recovery story;

 

"I have used the oil on and off since then as maintenance doses and I still feel great to this day."

 

So therefore they are still using RSO on a regular basis. I presume as he follows Rick Simpsons methods, he will be taking 1 dose per month now. As that is what Rick promotes.

Don't know if you already asked, but could you also ask if he suffered from hair-loss. He didn't mentioned it but it's worth a try ?

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Posted : 04/24/2014 1:21 pm

CBD could possibly be a cure for pimples ha ... who would have thought after all nature holds all the keys to good health contrary to popular believe a.k.a big pHARMa. and the general sheeply / brainwashed public..... I have no doubt in my mind it's the best treatment for Accutainted victims with or without THC content some prefer not to use the THC version some do .... Vaping is another option I have not tried myself. I'm still waiting for my CBD drops ( non THC ) to arrive in the mail I am optimistic in trying it and getting good results.

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Posted : 04/24/2014 2:13 pm

Pimple management = Healthy life style with natural circadian cycle , stress management , physical activity and nutrient dense anti-inflammatory blood sugar stabilizing diet that don't include anything you have an intolerance to NO TOXIC DRUGS NEEDED.

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Posted : 04/24/2014 2:50 pm

 

I am in the same situation as many in this thread. 8 years after accutane, I am still suffering from a lot of side effects. Nothing I want more to de-accutane my body and get rid of these.

I have only read through the first 5 pages, but have anyone had any success with getting rid of these side effects? de-accutane your body?

Daniel80, can you please tell us your side effects? 8 years is long time, you should have progressed some improvements by time? Have you?

Becides very dry eyes, nose and lips, I also get lumps in my skin from time to time. They always come around my chin in my face. They don't hurt, but definately don't feel good to get them. I also have a lower sexsual function than before.

And my skin is just very, very fragile and un-stabil. Two days are nok alike. I suffer easily from infection/irritation. I also have a bad short term memory and several mental issues. Anxiety being the worst

 

 

Crank92 in his post mentioned something called "RSO". What is this?

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Posted : 04/24/2014 4:27 pm

** RECOVERY STORY **

 

I've got permission to post this story that I had in my inbox the other day. The individual wishes to remain anonymous and thus any speculations to who it is I will neither confirm or deny. However, take it for what it is - good f**king news;

 

Thanks alot man I appreciate it! I owe my life to this plant which is why I now dedicate my life to spreading the knowledge of this amazing medicine. I never expected any of this. To take it back to the start I was *** years old I Was literally the epitome of an athlete and health (sexually included)quite like yourself as I saw you mentioned. The death pill accutane turned me into what I could only expect it would be like at 80+ years old, after 6 months of 40mg per day...if I remember correctly 1 poison pill a day. Still remember near the end of the death treatment I found one of those pills crushed with a sickly orange goo coming out. Later to find out this poison is chemotherapy originally designed for brain cancer, which I now know is a whole other fraud just like most of the 'medical system', but that's another topic. Back to the point. I remember in the summer of 2010 when I was a month or two into the poison I suddenly released my erections were becoming extremely weak and my feelings were slowly dying. I didn't understand what was going on I was only focused on getting rid of the acne. Time went on and I got worse and worse thinking it was only temporary. Never could i have imagined what these criminals had put me on for acne. By the end of the poison I pretty much felt dead. Extreme fatigue, extreme brain fog I could not think normally, could barely make sense out of regular things, at this point I was completely impotent with no more feeling sexually or in my body. Complete loss of sexual function. No erections, no libido, no sexual thoughts or attraction to females at all. Emotionally dead. My joints in my legs ached bad and made cracking sounds when I would move them. My eyes were red and dry and I had horrible night vision I couldn't see outside at night even though I always had been able to in the past. My lips had a big split top and bottom from being so dry and cracked. They would split and bleed daily. I still have the scar lines from it. Basically the poison made me feel like I was no longer human. I don't know if I am forgetting anything but I think that about covers it. It was around 2 years until i really began cannabis treatment. I was feeling worse and worse no improvement at all to the point i was basically bed ridden with no hope. I eventually started off vaping and over the course of a few weeks my brain fog finally was clearing and I was getting some erections and feeling which was very exciting, but it wasnt always too consistent. The reason being i believe is the amount is very little being consumed compared to an oil tolerance. Also i feel that vaping/smoking is very mental so I believe most of the cannabinoids go to the lungs/brain rather than the whole body compared to ingesting oil. But it certainly began to clear up my mind. I began using RSO months later I believe a bit more than 1 1/2 years ago. Within the first few days i knew this was it. I took it very slowly and only increased my dose as I was comfortable but within a few weeks I was beginning to really feel the true healing power. I was feeling alive with energy each morning and I finally began getting more erections. My mind was clearing up even more and feeling and emotion was returning. This is dated around a month or so. I no longer had joint pain and my night vision had returned.I continually increased dosage and I continued to feel even better and better. Every symptom just continued to feel better by the day. Erections and feeling continued to improve as did my energy and mind. Another thing that I think helped a lot is a few times a week i would mix some rso with coconut oil and put it in a condom and wear it. By this time it was around 3 months into treatment. I estimate I consumed around 50 grams of oil or about 12 ounces of bud. At that point I felt completely cured and back to normal. I continued to ingest the oil and continued to feel great. I have used the oil on and off since then as maintenance doses and I still feel great to this day. This oil is truly amazing. Throughout the course I didn't write down dates or measurements so it is mostly estimated. I continually listened to my body And feeling as I went along. That is the most important thing to remember on the oil. Take it slowly and build a tolerance. Once your tolerance is high after a few weeks or months the healing really begins. Start very small and give yourself time to build tolerance. 1/2 rice grain every 8 hours rick Simpson recommends, doubling dosage every 4 days. I started a bit slower but eventually built it up. We all have different tolerances and healing rates so always go at your own comfortable pace. It is important to use indica or indica dominant strains because they provide the best healing and rest. Many people have schedules so if you can only use at night before bed that's still okay. Sativas are not good because they are very mentally energizing and not suitable for healing the way indicas are. Some indica dominant strains have a bit of sativa enough to make a nice balance, but you are looking for potent sedative strains that make you want to sleep. These are the real healers. A few strains I used were afghan kush(indica), northern lights(indica), grand daddy purp(indica), white widow(indica dom), skunk #1 (hybrid). The indicas are definitely best but the hybrids were good to add in the mix for some euphoric good feeling. The best oils are a mix of strains which is what I did. Don't worry about cbd, simply shoot for potent sedative indicas and you will be good. I did not grow the bud I used for these oils, but I have knowledge on growing if you are looking for help. Growing certainly solves many issues in finding this medicine but sadly it is a risk as we know right now. I hope this was detailed enough to be useful and will certainly answer any further questions you may have. I apologize if there isnt a lot of detail but over my course of helping I didn't keep track of much besides how I felt and continued to improve over time. I would love to add more detail but I have been typing for about 2 hours now on my phone because I don't have a computer at the moment. I can't think of much else off the top of my head but Im more than happy to continue to chat and answer questions or help in any way I can. P.s. I tried finding a lawyer for class action lawsuit about 2 years ago by no one would take on the case unless symptoms included IBS or a few others... thats the corrupt system for us. I don't have money for a lawyer so I don't know how realistic suing actually is for me but I am still trying to collect info in the meantime. Very happy to talk to you as well man it's been an unfortunate part of our life but there is certainly a bright future ahead!"

Hey Crank,

I appreciate you sharing this it is absolutely great to hear another person have success with the oil. Just to clarify this is a THIRD person having success with the oil right? It sounds awfully similar to the timeframes given by Accutaneispoison. Just want to make sure it is a different person (obviously if he wants to remain anonymous i don't need his name or anything). Appreciate it man

 

Crank92 in his post mentioned something called "RSO". What is this?

RSO stands for Rick Simpson Oil which is just another term for Cannabis Oil

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Posted : 04/24/2014 4:36 pm

Yeah RSO , CBD same thing . But to be honest I don't think any of us signed up for this B.S I sure didn't. The drug leaves the system in 2 months yeah...the drug may leave but it also leaves carnage behind. ie definition of carnage " great and usually bloody slaughter or injury (as in battle) " ha... sounds about right.

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Posted : 04/25/2014 5:45 am

Does anyone in the UK know where you can get hold of RSO? Fed up of dealing with the side effects now!

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Posted : 04/25/2014 2:26 pm

Does anyone in the UK know where you can get hold of RSO? Fed up of dealing with the side effects now!

I believe there are some conditions such as MS where you might be able to get a perscription for medicinal cannabis in the UK, but for tane sides I think the chances are probably very slim, but may be worth trying anyway.

 

You really have the choice of either relocating to somewhere where you can obtain it legally (Colorado or California in the States, Netherlands or maybe Germany amongst others), finding it on the black market (I'm sure it's can be bought, but the price would be very high due to the amount of cannabis required to produce it) or making it yourself. Unfortunately the last 2 options would potentially leave you at risk of prosecution.

The methods people have been using to recover are following the protocol described on the phoenix tears website.

 

http://phoenixtears.ca

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Posted : 04/26/2014 2:34 am

Crank92 thanks for the post, I have suffered from accutane side effects for 9 yrs and I'm desperate for change, my main problems are joint and muscle pain and dry skin all over. I've seen heaps of docs and tried a million supplements with no avail.

If anyone else has tried cannabis oil please post your experience!!

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Posted : 04/26/2014 5:43 am

IMPORTANT

I attended the protest yesterday at the Roche HQ in the UK. Met many parents of children who committed suicide alongside one other sufferer. We got invited into a boardroom to chat with some representatives. Definitely an emotionally charged meeting as you could imagine. However, they played the obnoxiously polite card alongside the blissful ignorance card. Was a bit frustrating. We did get some media coverage from a few local papers though, gave my story and what not. Shall see if this leads to anything at all.

OTHERWISE, I got my finals coming up with 6 x 3 hour exams in the next few weeks. I will be not coming on the forums (I hope) until June 6th when I've finished. I get it I've been posting up a lot of positive stuff recently and obviously people will be keen to know more. However, pretty much everything I know is on this thread from when I first joined on page 200 on this thread to this post. I will not be answering emails unless it is for my research - my email address can be found in the last couple of pages.

I'm just going to bump the infrequent posters on this site to report all your side effects to all the websites in my signature below. Do your part to raise awareness.

Laters all.

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Posted : 04/26/2014 7:26 am

Yes. Report, report, report your side effects. All of them.

Even if you have sexual side effects and are worried about people finding out somehow.

You were never warned, partially because others were afraid to report it.

The US protest went well. No media attention, but turned many heads with my sign. One of the FDA employees came out from the building to offer support, so this wasn't a lost cause. Out of thousands of people, many of them scientists, not all of them are too uninformed to understand the damage Accutane can cause or too corrupt to care about it.

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Posted : 04/26/2014 5:31 pm

I just wanted to add my two cents about working out as that's what I've been doing for years and also have low testosterone (total and free)and dht.

Principles (based on my own experience and on advice of experienced coaches verified by me empirically)

1) keep it short - 45 min. max. Regular lifters with decent T levels shoudn't exceed 60 min, in our case longer workout are draining and ineffective.

2) keep rests short - it's laughable how much time most of regular gym-goers waste on breaks. By short I mean 10sec - 60 sec at worst.

3) stick to compound lifts only (dead lifts, squats, push press, dips, pull ups, rows)

4) don't waste your time on any silly cortisol-elevating low intensity cardio. If you really need - try tabata or hiit but believe me - sticking to compound lifts and keeping resting periods under 60 sec. is more than enough to lose fat

Now the most important: working out didn't elevate my testosterone. What is more and somethat strange more testosterone (induced by clomid or t-injections) does nothing in terms of my sides (no libido, some brainfog). It's clearly more complex issue that just T-levels.

I wholeheartedly believe that working out is beneficial though and I suspect that thanks to being so active and avoing crappy food for years I'm doing reasonably well now despite this whole accutane disaster.

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Posted : 04/27/2014 11:55 am

About cannabis oil. Do you drink this? How does it affect your body, compared to smoking it? Do you get high? Do you take this for a certain period or the rest of your life?

How do you go about taking cannabis oil in order to repair damage after accutane?

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Posted : 04/27/2014 2:08 pm

@monn

Yes, I was the only one there in the US. There were around a dozen people who attended the UK protest.

It appears the new RAGforum has conveniently disappeared the same as old RAGforum:

[Edited link out]

EDIT: False Alarm. They picked a damn fine day to do maintenance on free forums.

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Posted : 04/28/2014 9:22 am

Hey, out of interest has anyone ever had a growth hormone test done? If so were the results normal or not??

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Posted : 04/29/2014 4:18 pm

I have had IGF-1 tested, which is supposed to reflect levels of HGH fairly well, and it was on the higher side of the range. Accutane has been shown to significantly lower IGF-1 during treatment, but low IGF-1 or GH doesn't seem to be a common problem among us post-tane.

If you would like more information, there is a lot of discussion on IGF-1 and HGH early on in the main ATM Accutane thread:

[Edited link out]

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Posted : 04/29/2014 5:20 pm

Look into HYDRAPLENISH. It's a pill that counters all accutane side effects. Take it while your using and after. Relieves chapped lips , dry skin , joint problems etc. It's amazing. For skin sensitivity to sunlight , look into melanotan 2. I couldn't tan after tane started mt2 and bam ! back to beautiful tan skin.

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Posted : 04/29/2014 6:32 pm

One thing that really helped me that I would like to share: using lip balm...I noticed that when I started using it everyday my symptoms improved, even though I didnt have chapped lips at all. Someone on another forum mentioned he got "strange" symptoms when he wasn't using lip balm, even years after he stopped accutane. Not sure the science behind it (maybe there's water loss through our GI tract muscous membranes and it helps prevent some of that) or if it is just a placebo effect, but for those who have tried everything else it could work.

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Posted : 04/29/2014 7:14 pm

On 4/30/2014 at 5:18 AM, Dubya_B said:

I have had IGF-1 tested, which is supposed to reflect levels of HGH fairly well, and it was on the higher side of the range. Accutane has been shown to significantly lower IGF-1 during treatment, but low IGF-1 or GH doesn't seem to be a common problem among us post-tane.

If you would like more information, there is a lot of discussion on IGF-1 and HGH early on in the main ATM Accutane thread:

[Edited link out]

I just had my IGF-1 tested, it came back above range, as well as my morning cortisol, ACTH, and DHEA. Not sure what this means, still trying to find out why I'm so damn tired all the time. If there are high IGF-1 levels, what does that mean for GH? I've heard high and low GH.

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Posted : 04/29/2014 9:20 pm

Reported my sides to Rxisk website! Will be doing the others tomorrow. Thanks for attending the protest. I still think it had a solid impact and I hope to go to one in the near future. Ya know, once I have money and vacation days...

Anyone have any experience with Armour Thyroid?? I don't believe it's doing crap...perhaps maybe even causing mroe harm than good....LDN is still working like a charm...

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Posted : 04/30/2014 6:31 am

About cannabis oil. Do you drink this? How does it affect your body, compared to smoking it? Do you get high? Do you take this for a certain period or the rest of your life?

How do you go about taking cannabis oil in order to repair damage after accutane?

Can anyone comment on the above?

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Posted : 04/30/2014 8:40 am

you can ingest it or use it topically from my knowledge. I've heard of people being cured after several months to a year of consistent treatment. Good cannabis oil has a lower THC content and higher CBD content, which has all the healing properties. I think it's highly dependent on how severe your symptoms are and there is no guarantee that it will work, but I have noticed benefits from vaping in the past on overall health. Do be careful though since marijuana is an antiandrogen or acts like an antiandrogen, so it can also aggravate symptoms of dryness as well (in my experience. It's mostly just confusing to me how it can be healing and bad for some at the same time. But seeing as it does directly effect hormones, I think that that is the key.

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Posted : 04/30/2014 9:22 am

you can ingest it or use it topically from my knowledge. I've heard of people being cured after several months to a year of consistent treatment. Good cannabis oil has a lower THC content and higher CBD content, which has all the healing properties. I think it's highly dependent on how severe your symptoms are and there is no guarantee that it will work, but I have noticed benefits from vaping in the past on overall health. Do be careful though since marijuana is an antiandrogen or acts like an antiandrogen, so it can also aggravate symptoms of dryness as well (in my experience. It's mostly just confusing to me how it can be healing and bad for some at the same time. But seeing as it does directly effect hormones, I think that that is the key.

There is CBD oil and there is Rick SImpson Oil.

What we are looking for is RIck SImpson Oil or RSO. Google it and you will find tons of information.

RIck Simpson Oil is aimed at medicinal use and its used as a cancer treatment. THC is proven to slow down or even cure cancer.

"Cancer treatment" is 3 months and 60 g of RSO. There are variables like oil quality and cancer stage but this is a normal heavy treatment.

Go and check

http://phoenixtears.ca/

Take care all,

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